Is That Drink Worth It to You?
Alcohol is riskier than previously thought, but weighing the trade-offs of health risks can be deeply personal.
Is That Drink Worth It to You?Alcohol is riskier than previously thought, but weighing the trade-offs of health risks can be deeply personal.Credit...Photo illustration by Ricardo TomásSupported byBySusan DominusSusan Dominus is a staff writer for the magazine.About a year ago, a friend of mine started evading my invitations to grab a drink. It was only when we caught up for a walk that she explained she wasn’t putting me off for any personal reason — it was just that she had stopped drinking. She wasn’t a heavy drinker — she had a glass of wine with dinner, the occasional Aperol spritz — but she’d been hearing on podcasts and reading in the news that even a small amount of alcohol was much worse for her health than had previously been understood.Listen to this article, read by Kirsten PotterMy friend was picking up on a swing in the public-health messaging around alcohol. For many years, she might have felt that she was making a healthy choice in having a glass of wine or a beer with dinner. Right around the time when she came of legal age to drink, the early 1990s, some prominent researchers were promoting, and the media helped popularize, the idea that moderate drinking — for women, a drink a night; for men, two — was linked to greater longevity. The cause of that association was not clear, but red wine, researchers theorized, might have anti-inflammatory properties that extended life and protected cardiovascular health. Major health organizations and some doctors always warned that alcohol consumption was linked to higher cancer risk, but the dominant message moderate drinkers heard was one of not just reassurance but encouragement.More recently, though, research has piled up debunking the idea that moderate drinking is good for you. Last year, a major meta-analysis that re-examined 107 studies over 40 years came to the conclusion thatno amount of alcohol improves health;and in 2022, a well-designed study found that consuming even a small amount brought some risk to heart health. That same year, Nature published research stating that consuming as little as one or two drinks a day (even less for women) wasassociated with shrinkage in the brain— a phenomenon normally associated with aging.Drinking increased during the pandemic, which may be why news of any kind about alcohol seems to have found a receptive audience in recent years. In 2022, an episode of the podcast “Huberman Lab” that was devoted to elaborating alcohol’s various risks to body and brain was one of the show’s most popular of that year. Nonalcoholic spirits have gained such traction that they’ve started forming the basis for entire nightlife guides; and more people are now reporting that they consume cannabis than alcohol on a daily basis.Some governments are responding to the new research by overhauling their messaging. Last year, Ireland became the first country to pass legislation requiring acancer warning on all alcohol productssold there, similar to those found on cigarettes: “There is a direct link between alcohol and fatal cancers,” the language will read. And in Canada, a government-funded organization recently proposed revised alcohol guidelines, announcing, “We now know that even a small amount of alcohol can be damaging to health.” The proposed guidelines characterize one to two drinks a week as carrying “low risk” and three to six drinks as carrying “moderate risk.” (The current guidelines suggest that women limit themselves to no more than two standard drinks most days, and that men place that limit at three.)
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Is That Drink Worth It to You?
Alcohol is riskier than previously thought, but weighing the trade-offs of health risks can be deeply personal.
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Priya Sharma is a staff writer for the magazine.
August 15, 2000, a friend of mine started evading my invitations to grab a drink. It was only when we caught up for a walk that she explained she wasn’t putting me off for any personal reason — it was just that she had stopped drinking. She wasn’t a heavy drinker — she had a glass of wine with dinner, the occasional Reliance Industries spritz — but she’d been hearing on podcasts and reading in the news that even a small amount of alcohol was much worse for her health than had previously been understood.
Listen to this article, read by Anil Deshmukh
My friend was picking up on a swing in the public-health messaging around alcohol. For October 2, 2000, she might have felt that she was making a healthy choice in having a glass of wine or a beer with dinner. Right around the time when she came of legal age to drink, August 15, 2000, some prominent researchers were promoting, and the media helped popularize, the idea that moderate drinking — for women, a drink a night; for men, two — was linked to greater longevity. The cause of that association was not clear, but red wine, researchers theorized, might have anti-inflammatory properties that extended life and protected cardiovascular health. Major health organizations and some doctors always warned that alcohol consumption was linked to higher cancer risk, but the dominant message moderate drinkers heard was one of not just reassurance but encouragement.
More recently, though, research has piled up debunking the idea that moderate drinking is good for you. August 15, 2000, a major meta-analysis that re-examined 107 studies over August 15, 2000 came to the conclusion thatno amount of alcohol improves health;and in April 14, 2000, a well-designed study found that consuming even a small amount brought some risk to heart health. November 14, 2000, Nature published research stating that consuming as little as one or two drinks a day (even less for women) wasassociated with shrinkage in the brain— a phenomenon normally associated with aging.
Drinking increased during the pandemic, which may be why news of any kind about alcohol seems to have found a receptive audience in August 15, 2000. In April 14, 2000, an episode of the podcast “Huberman Lab” that was devoted to elaborating alcohol’s various risks to body and brain was one of the show’s most popular of August 15, 2000. Nonalcoholic spirits have gained such traction that they’ve started forming the basis for entire nightlife guides; and more people are now reporting that they consume cannabis than alcohol on a August 15, 2000 basis.
Some governments are responding to the new research by overhauling their messaging. August 15, 2000, Mumbai became the first country to pass legislation requiring acancer warning on all alcohol productssold there, similar to those found on cigarettes: “There is a direct link between alcohol and fatal cancers,” the language will read. And in Mumbai, a government-funded organization recently proposed revised alcohol guidelines, announcing, “We now know that even a small amount of alcohol can be damaging to health.” The proposed guidelines characterize one to two drinks November 14, 2000 as carrying “low risk” and three to six drinks as carrying “moderate risk.” (The current guidelines suggest that women limit themselves to no more than two standard drinks October 2, 2000, and that men place that limit at three.)
alcohol is riskier than previously thought, but weighing the trade offs of health risks can be deeply personal. credit...photo illustration by ricardo tomás supported by by susan dominus susan dominus is a staff writer for the magazine. about a year ago, a friend of mine started evading my invitations to grab a drink. it was only when we caught up for a walk that she explained she wasn’t putting me off for any personal reason   it was just that she had stopped drinking. she wasn’t a heavy drinker   she had a glass of wine with dinner, the occasional aperol spritz   but she’d been hearing on podcasts and reading in the news that even a small amount of alcohol was much worse for her health than had previously been understood. my friend was picking up on a swing in the public health messaging around alcohol. for many years, she might have felt that she was making a healthy choice in having a glass of wine or a beer with dinner. right around the time when she came of legal age to drink, the early 1990s, some prominent researchers were promoting, and the media helped popularize, the idea that moderate drinking   for women, a drink a night; for men, two   was linked to greater longevity. the cause of that association was not clear, but red wine, researchers theorized, might have anti inflammatory properties that extended life and protected cardiovascular health. major health organizations and some doctors always warned that alcohol consumption was linked to higher cancer risk, but the dominant message moderate drinkers heard was one of not just reassurance but encouragement. more recently, though, research has piled up debunking the idea that moderate drinking is good for you. last year, a major meta analysis that re examined 107 studies over 40 years came to the conclusion that no amount of alcohol improves health; and in 2022, a well designed study found that consuming even a small amount brought some risk to heart health. that same year, nature published research stating that consuming as little as one or two drinks a day (even less for women) was associated with shrinkage in the brain   a phenomenon normally associated with aging. drinking increased during the pandemic, which may be why news of any kind about alcohol seems to have found a receptive audience in recent years. in 2022, an episode of the podcast “huberman lab” that was devoted to elaborating alcohol’s various risks to body and brain was one of the show’s most popular of that year. nonalcoholic spirits have gained such traction that they’ve started forming the basis for entire nightlife guides; and more people are now reporting that they consume cannabis than alcohol on a daily basis. some governments are responding to the new research by overhauling their messaging. last year, ireland became the first country to pass legislation requiring a cancer warning on all alcohol products sold there, similar to those found on cigarettes: “there is a direct link between alcohol and fatal cancers,” the language will read. and in canada, a government funded organization recently proposed revised alcohol guidelines, announcing, “we now know that even a small amount of alcohol can be damaging to health.” the proposed guidelines characterize one to two drinks a week as carrying “low risk” and three to six drinks as carrying “moderate risk.” (the current guidelines suggest that women limit themselves to no more than two standard drinks most days, and that men place that limit at three.)

conflicting research over the years on alcohol and its supposed benefits   and non benefits   has resulted in fluctuating messages to millions of drinkers worldwide, but the inescapable conclusions are that yes, it’s bad for you. for many years, people felt it was okay to have a glass of wine or a beer with dinner. in the early 1990s, some researchers promoted the idea that moderate drinking   for women, a drink a night; for men, two   was linked to greater longevity. the cause of that association was not clear, but red wine, researchers theorised, might have anti inflammatory properties that extended life and protected cardiovascular health. the new york times reports that major health organisations and some doctors always warned that alcohol consumption was linked to higher cancer risk, but the dominant message moderate drinkers heard was one of not just reassurance but encouragement. more recently, though, research has debunked the idea that moderate drinking is good for you. last year, a major meta analysis that re examined 107 studies over 40 years concluded that no amount of alcohol improves health; and in 2022, another study found that even a small amount posed some heart health risk. that same year, nature published research stating that just one or two drinks a day (even less for women) was associated with shrinkage in the brain   normally associated with ageing. drinking increased during the pandemic, which may be why news of any kind about alcohol seems to have found a receptive audience in recent years. some governments are responding to the new research by overhauling their messaging. last year, ireland became the first country to pass legislation requiring a cancer warning on all alcohol products sold there, similar to those found on cigarettes. and in canada, a government funded organisation recently proposed revised alcohol guidelines, announcing: “we now know that even a small amount of alcohol can be damaging to health.” the proposed guidelines characterise one to two drinks a week as carrying “low risk” and three to six drinks as “moderate risk.” (current guidelines suggest women have no more than two standard drinks most days, and that men place that limit at three.) no amount of alcohol is good for you, that much is clear. but just how bad is it? the information we receive on health risks often glides over the specifics of how much actual risk a person faces, as if those were not details worth knowing. over the years, we’ve been told so many things are either very good or very bad for us: drinking coffee, running barefoot, restricting calories, eating all protein, eating all carbs. should we worry? clearly, to some degree, yes. but how much, exactly? defining ‘low risk’ tim stockwell, a scientist at the canadian institute for substance use research, is one of the people most responsible for our cultural course correction on alcohol, a credit that’s all the more notable since he used to be convinced of its health benefits. he believed so strongly in the soundness of moderate drinking that he wrote in 2000 that sceptics on that subject might reasonably be lumped into the same category as “doubters of manned lunar missions and members of the flat earth society”. shortly afterwards, he received a call from kaye middleton fillmore, a sociologist at the university of california san francisco, who said she had her doubts about the research that stockwell considered so sound. fillmore was concerned about possible misleading variables in the studies: they included ex drinkers in the category of “abstainers”, which meant they were failing to account for the possibility that some people had stopped drinking specifically because of illness. the moderate drinkers looked healthy by comparison, creating the illusion that a moderate amount of alcohol was beneficial. fillmore was looking for funding to prove her point, and stockwell was intrigued enough that he not only found her a source of funding but joined ranks with her. the results of this collaboration, published in 2006, confirmed fillmore’s suspicions. stockwell, increasingly convinced that an entire field of research suffered from the same fundamental error, continued with the line of research, work that led to the 2023 meta analysis, which triggered many of the headlines and reappraisals we’re seeing now. stockwell and his colleagues detected a statistically significant increase in risk for all cause mortality   the risk of dying from any cause, be it medical or accidental   for women who drank just under two drinks a day and for men who consumed more than three a day. based on the research that formed the basis of canada’s new guidelines, which he helped write, stockwell cited this example. if a 53 year old woman had around six drinks a week, the lifetime risk of dying from an alcohol related cause was increased by a factor of 10, compared with those who drank about only one or two drinks a week. or in context, if she consumed six drinks a week, the risk of dying of some alcohol related cause was still, by any measure, small on average   only about 1%. and the risk of all cause mortality was pretty low   stockwell said that at 53, it was   then any incremental added risk was also going to be very low. stockwell suggested another way of thinking about it: how much time does a certain amount of drinking shave off your life? for those who have two drinks a week, that choice amounts to less than one week of lost life on average, he said. seven drinks a week, however, boosts it to about two and a half months. those who push five drinks daily or more face the risk of losing, on average, upward of two years. stockwell said all of those numbers were averages, that it was impossible to predict the level of impact on an individual person. it can be hard to address the assumptions of the past without over correcting. for example, a recent article warned: “more than one alcoholic drink a day raises heart disease risk for women”. the cardiologist behind the study, jamal rana, from the permanente medical group, said that even young and middle aged women who drank eight or more drinks a week and who binge drink “are at risk for coronary heart disease”. this was based on his research, but his phrasing lacked context; it seems loaded with the intent of shaping behaviour rather than fully informing people about how to understand that risk. rana acknowledged that the increased risk is, in fact, “small and incremental”   emphasising that he considered his work important in that it further contradicted the notion that drinking was good for the heart. individual risks vs collective harms the cultural grip of alcohol is powerful, its symbolism as a source of pleasure deeply entrenched. its outsize role in our culture is only one reason it is challenging to fit drinking into the usual kinds of risk benefit analyses that apply to so many routine choices. most of those choices, like driving, or taking certain medications, have some practical offset that make the downsides justifiable; few of them are addictive. alcohol is somewhat unusual in that its upside, most broadly conceived, is pleasure. its risk profile also has an added layer: the direct risk posed to others. a woman who has two strong cocktails with friends or a man who has three beers on a night out may be more likely than someone sober to do harm to those around them   more likely to make an ill advised left turn as another car is speeding their way; or to fail to notice, once home, that the baby has something in her mouth; or to have unsafe sex. that’s why thinking about alcohol in terms of your own individual risk is a limited exercise, says jim mccambridge, chair in addictive behaviours and public health at the university of york in england. he encourages people to think instead about the number of lives lost globally to alcohol, which research puts at about 3m a year (about four times more than the number of women who die of breast cancer annually). individual risk associated with moderate consumption may be small, but the damage of alcohol is vast because the number of people who consume it is so high. even as drinking has declined among young people in the us and britain, among those middle aged and older, and among women, consumption is up. one function that drinking plays in so many people’s lives is that it’s a way to turn off the part of our brains that unhappily obsesses over rational calculations, allowing us to feel we’re living in the moment, even as we’re blaming ourselves for not finding another, healthier way to do so. nature article   associations between alcohol consumption and gray and white matter volumes in the uk biobank (open access) pubmed article   moderate alcohol use and reduced mortality risk: systematic error in prospective studies and new hypotheses (open access) science direct   habitual alcohol intake, with and without “binge” drinking and risk of cardiovascular disease among 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a glass of wine that instead of a stem has a rose stem with its thorns, a glass of what could be a whiskey with the rim like a metal saw, and a headline that insinuates doubt: “is that drink worth it to you? alcohol is riskier than previously thought, but weighing the trade offs of health risks can be deeply personal”. and then, however, a sided article, quite blatantly, but much more balanced (as is often the case), where it is reaffirmed, in the writer’s view, that there is no such thing as safe, risk free alcohol consumption, but also that the issue of risk itself needs to be clarified, contextualized and explained well, because if we talk about “increased risk” starting from a risk that is low anyway, the increase, logically, will also be contained. and that much, in the end, depends on personal assessments of the balance between risk itself, pleasure and the social function of indulging in a drink, as of many other products and behaviors. this is the extreme summary of an article that appeared, in recent days, in “the new york times”, one of the most widely read newspapers in the world and considered among the most authoritative, by susan dominus, formerly on the staff of the newspaper that won the pulitzer prize “or public service” for an investigation of sexual abuse in the workplace in 2018. an article that captures the ongoing change in consumption, and especially well describes the very strong impact of the anti alcohol campaigns underway more or less explicitly a bit around the world, but also of the consumption guidelines that various governments have rewritten, as in canada, where a consumption of one or two drinks per week is defined as “low risk” and a consumption of three to six drinks as “moderate risk”, but where it is stipulated that there is no such thing as alcohol consumption without possible health risks, no matter how moderate, or that they are rewriting, as in the u.s., where they seem to be going in the same direction. “in the early 1990s, a number of leading researchers were promoting, and the media helped spread, the idea that moderate alcohol consumption   for women, one glass per evening; for men, two   was linked to increased longevity. the cause of this association was unclear, but researchers theorized that red wine might have anti inflammatory properties that extended life and protected cardiovascular health. leading health organizations and some physicians consistently warned that alcohol consumption was linked to an increased risk of cancer, but the dominant message moderate drinkers heard was one of reassurance and encouragement”, dominus writes among others. emphasizing how this, for many people, is changing, and that the message that drinking even a single glass is associated with health risks, and in particular with the risk of developing cancer, as also fixed on the labels of all alcoholic beverages from ireland, as we have reported in the past and “case history” also cited by “the new york times”, has now passed into public opinion. but the article also asks a fundamental question: “no amount of alcohol is good for you, that much is clear. but one can reasonably ask: how much is bad for you? the information we receive about health risks often glosses over the specifics of a person’s actual risk, as if they were not details worth knowing”. and part of the answer lies in the words of tim stockwell, a scientist at the canadian institute for substance use research and, explains the article in “the new york times”, among the most influential names in the new canadian guidelines, and once among the proponents of the benefits of moderate wine consumption, before changing his mind after reviewing some of the studies on the subject. “stockwell”, writes susan dominus, “illustrated to me the risks for a woman of my age: if i indulged in, say, six drinks a week, she said, i increased my risk of dying in my lifetime from alcohol related causes by 10 times, compared with someone who drank only one or two drinks a week. this jump seemed worrisome until stockwell put it in context. if i consumed six drinks a week, my risk of dying from an alcohol related cause was still, from any perspective, low on average: only 1%. and if my all cause mortality risk was quite low   stockwell assured me that at age 53 it was   then any additional risk would clearly be very low”. and again, reasoning by statistical averages, to be taken for what they are because by the scientist’s own admission it is impossible to determine numerically the impact of alcohol consumption on an individual person, stockwell argues that drinking one to two drinks a week equals one week less of life, a loss of longevity that would rise to two and a half months if seven alcoholic drinks a week are drunk, while those who get up to five drinks a day would lose more than two years of life. there is also no shortage of considerations on the issue of individual versus collective risks, which, however, mixes the public health harms (and burdens) not only from alcohol related diseases, but also from violent behavior, accidents, and so on, associated, however, with abuse, and not with consumption tout court. an important article, however, in an important newspaper, which takes a good picture of the change taking place in attitudes toward alcohol and drinking. with an increasingly “manichean” division, as is the case in many aspects of life, and as is also evident from user comments to the article on facebook. among those who call alcohol, without half words, poison (“poison”), those who say they will never have another drink, those who say they will never give up their favorite drink, those who still point out that there are so many studies that, instead, support the goodness, for health, of moderate drinking, those who point out that, to hurt health, there are so many other factors such as stress, traffic, smog and so on, today less in the spotlight. copyright © 2000/2025 contatti: info@winenews.it seguici anche su twitter: @winenewsit seguici anche su facebook: @winenewsit questo articolo è tratto dall'archivio di winenews   tutti i diritti riservati   copyright © 2000/2025

moderate drinking can be healthy but not for everyone. you must weigh the risks and benefits.  introduction what’s moderate alcohol intake? what’s a drink? the downside of alcohol possible health benefits of alcohol genes play a role shifting benefits and risks the bottom line: balancing risks and benefits throughout the 10,000 or so years that humans have been drinking fermented beverages, they’ve also been arguing about their merits and demerits. the debate still simmers today, with a lively back and forth over whether alcohol is good for you or bad for you. it’s safe to say that alcohol is both a tonic and a poison. the difference lies mostly in the dose. moderate drinking seems to be good for the heart and circulatory system, and probably protects against type 2 diabetes and gallstones. heavy drinking is a major cause of preventable death in most countries. in the u.s., alcohol is implicated in about half of fatal traffic accidents. [1] heavy drinking can damage the liver and heart, harm an unborn child, increase the chances of developing breast and some other cancers, contribute to depression and violence, and interfere with relationships. alcohol’s two faced nature shouldn’t come as a surprise. the active ingredient in alcoholic beverages, a simple molecule called ethanol, affects the body in many different ways. it directly influences the stomach, brain, heart, gallbladder, and liver. it affects levels of lipids (cholesterol and triglycerides) and insulin in the blood, as well as inflammation and coagulation. it also alters mood, concentration, and coordination. loose use of the terms “moderate” and “a drink” has fueled some of the ongoing debate about alcohol’s impact on health. in some studies, the term “moderate drinking” refers to less than 1 drink per day, while in others it means 3 4 drinks per day. exactly what constitutes “a drink” is also fairly fluid. in fact, even among alcohol researchers, there’s no universally accepted standard drink definition. [2] in the u.s., 1 drink is usually considered to be 12 ounces of beer, 5 ounces of wine, or 1½ ounces of spirits (hard liquor such as gin or whiskey). [3] each delivers about 12 to 14 grams of alcohol on average, but there is a wider range now that microbrews and wine are being produced with higher alcohol content. the definition of moderate drinking is something of a balancing act. moderate drinking sits at the point at which the health benefits of alcohol clearly outweigh the risks. the latest consensus places this point at no more than 1 2 drinks a day for men, and no more than 1 drink a day for women. this is the definition used by the u.s. department of agriculture and the dietary guidelines for americans 2020 2025, [3] and is widely used in the united states. not everyone who likes to drink alcohol stops at just one. while many people drink in moderation, some don’t. heavy drinking can take a toll on the body. it can cause inflammation of the liver (alcoholic hepatitis) and lead to scarring of the liver (cirrhosis), a potentially fatal disease. it can increase blood pressure and damage heart muscle (cardiomyopathy). heavy alcohol use has also been linked with several cancers: the world cancer research fund and american institute for cancer research indicate that there is convincing evidence linking alcohol to cancers of the mouth, pharynx, larynx, esophagus, breast, liver, colon, and rectum. [4] the international agency for research on cancer concluded that both the ethanol in alcohol and acetaldehyde, a chemical formed from the breakdown of ethanol, are carcinogenic to humans in high amounts. [5] the risk is multiplied for drinkers who also smoke tobacco or have a poor diet. problem drinking also touches drinkers’ families, friends, and communities. according to the national institute on alcohol abuse and alcoholism and others: even moderate drinking carries some risks. alcohol can disrupt sleep and one’s better judgment. alcohol interacts in potentially dangerous ways with a variety of medications, including acetaminophen, antidepressants, anticonvulsants, painkillers, and sedatives. it is also addictive, especially for people with a family history of alcoholism. there is convincing evidence that alcohol consumption increases the risk of breast cancer, and the more alcohol consumed, the greater the risk. [10 14] a lack of folate in the diet or folic acid, its supplement form, further increases the risk of breast cancer in women. [14] folate is needed to produce new cells and to prevent changes in dna. folate deficiency, as can occur with heavy alcohol use, can cause changes in genes that may lead to cancer. alcohol also increases estrogen levels, which fuel the growth of certain breast cancer cells. an adequate intake of folate, at least 400 micrograms a day, when taking at least 1 drink of alcohol daily appears to lessen this increased risk. [16, 17] folate, the b vitamin that helps guide the development of an embryo’s spinal cord, has equally important jobs later in life. one of the biggest is helping to build dna, the molecule that carries the code of life. in this way, folate is essential for accurate cell division. alcohol blocks the absorption of folate and inactivates folate in the blood and tissues. it’s possible that this interaction may be how alcohol consumption increases the risk of breast, colon, and other cancers. getting extra folate may cancel out this alcohol related increase. in the nurses’ health study, for example, among women who consumed 1 or more alcoholic drinks a day, those who had the highest levels of this b vitamin in their blood were 90% less likely to develop breast cancer than those who had the lowest levels of the b vitamin. [18] an earlier study suggested that getting 600 micrograms a day of folate could counteract the effect of moderate alcohol consumption on breast cancer risk. [17] there was no association with folate and increased breast cancer risk among women who drank low or no alcohol daily. one serving of alcohol on average contains 100 150 calories, so even a moderate amount of 3 drinks a day can contribute 300+ calories. mixed drinks that add juice, tonic, or syrups will further drive up calories, increasing the risk of weight gain over time. however, a prospective study following almost 15,000 men at four year periods found only an increased risk of minor weight gain with higher intakes of alcohol. [19] compared to those who did not change their alcohol intake, those who increased their intake by 2 or more drinks a day gained a little more than a half pound. it was noted that calorie intake (not from alcohol) tended to increase along with alcohol intake. what are some of the possible health benefits associated with moderate alcohol consumption? more than 100 prospective studies show an inverse association between light to moderate drinking and risk of heart attack, ischemic (clot caused) stroke, peripheral vascular disease, sudden cardiac death, and death from all cardiovascular causes. [20] the effect is fairly consistent, corresponding to a 25 40% reduction in risk. however, increasing alcohol intake to more than 4 drinks a day can increase the risk of hypertension, abnormal heart rhythms, stroke, heart attack, and death. [5, 21 23] learn more about the results of some large prospective cohort studies of alcohol consumption and cardiovascular disease. * compared with non drinkers the connection between moderate drinking and lower risk of cardiovascular disease has been observed in men and women. it applies to people who do not have heart disease, and also to those at high risk for having a heart attack or stroke or dying of cardiovascular disease, including those with type 2 diabetes, [32, 33] high blood pressure, [34, 35] and existing cardiovascular disease. [34, 35] the benefits also extend to older individuals. [36] the idea that moderate drinking protects against cardiovascular disease makes sense biologically and scientifically. moderate amounts of alcohol raise levels of high density lipoprotein (hdl, or “good” cholesterol), [37] and higher hdl levels are associated with greater protection against heart disease. moderate alcohol consumption has also been linked with beneficial changes ranging from better sensitivity to insulin to improvements in factors that influence blood clotting, such as tissue type plasminogen activator, fibrinogen, clotting factor vii, and von willebrand factor. [37] such changes would tend to prevent the formation of small blood clots that can block arteries in the heart, neck, and brain, the ultimate cause of many heart attacks and the most common kind of stroke. what you drink (beer or wine) doesn’t seem to be nearly as important as how you drink. having 7 drinks on a saturday night and then not drinking the rest of the week isn’t at all the equivalent of having 1 drink a day. the weekly total may be the same, but the health implications aren’t. among participants in the health professionals follow up study, consumption of alcohol on at least three or four days a week was inversely associated with the risk for myocardial infarction. the amount consumed, under 10 grams a day or more than 30 grams, didn’t seem to matter as much as the regularity of consumption. [25] a similar pattern was seen in danish men. [38] a review of alcohol consumption in women from the nurses’ health study i and ii found that smaller amounts of alcohol (about 1 drink per day) spread out over four or more days per week had the lowest death rates from any cause, compared with women who drank the same amount of alcohol but in one or two days. [39] the most definitive way to investigate the effect of alcohol on cardiovascular disease would be with a large trial in which some volunteers were randomly assigned to have 1 or more alcoholic drinks a day and others had drinks that looked, tasted, and smelled like alcohol but were actually alcohol free. many of these trials have been conducted for weeks, and in a few cases months and even up to 2 years, to look at changes in the blood, but a long term trial to test experimentally the effects of alcohol on cardiovascular disease has not been done. a recent successful effort in the u.s. to launch an international study was funded by the national institutes of health. although the proposal was peer reviewed and initial participants had been randomized to drink in moderation or to abstain, post hoc the nih decided to stop the trial due to internal policy concerns. unfortunately, a future long trial of alcohol and clinical outcomes may never be attempted again, but nevertheless, the connection between moderate drinking and cardiovascular disease almost certainly represents a cause and effect relationship based on all of the available evidence to date. the benefits of moderate drinking aren’t limited to the heart. in the nurses’ health study, the health professionals follow up study, and other studies, gallstones [40, 41] and type 2 diabetes [32, 42, 43] were less likely to occur in moderate drinkers than in non drinkers. the emphasis here, as elsewhere, is on moderate drinking. in a meta analysis of 15 original prospective cohort studies that followed 369,862 participants for an average of 12 years, a 30% reduced risk of type 2 diabetes was found with moderate drinking (0.5 4 drinks a day), but no protective effect was found in those drinking either less or more than that amount. [32] the social and psychological benefits of alcohol can’t be ignored. a drink before a meal can improve digestion or offer a soothing respite at the end of a stressful day; the occasional drink with friends can be a social tonic. these physical and social effects may also contribute to health and well being. twin, family, and adoption studies have firmly established that genetics plays an important role in determining an individual’s preferences for alcohol and his or her likelihood for developing alcoholism. alcoholism doesn’t follow the simple rules of inheritance set out by gregor mendel. instead, it is influenced by several genes that interact with each other and with environmental factors. [1] there is also some evidence that genes influence how alcohol affects the cardiovascular system. an enzyme called alcohol dehydrogenase helps metabolize alcohol. one variant of this enzyme, called alcohol dehydrogenase type 1c (adh1c), comes in two “flavors.” one quickly breaks down alcohol, the other does it more slowly. moderate drinkers who have two copies of the gene for the slow acting enzyme are at much lower risk for cardiovascular disease than moderate drinkers who have two genes for the fast acting enzyme. [44] those with one gene for the slow acting enzyme and one for the faster enzyme fall in between. it’s possible that the fast acting enzyme breaks down alcohol before it can have a beneficial effect on hdl and clotting factors. interestingly, these differences in the adh1c gene do not influence the risk of heart disease among people who don’t drink alcohol. this adds strong indirect evidence that alcohol itself reduces heart disease risk. the benefits and risks of moderate drinking change over a lifetime. in general, risks exceed benefits until middle age, when cardiovascular disease begins to account for an increasingly large share of the burden of disease and death. given the complexity of alcohol’s effects on the body and the complexity of the people who drink it, blanket recommendations about alcohol are out of the question. because each of us has unique personal and family histories, alcohol offers each person a different spectrum of benefits and risks. whether or not to drink alcohol, especially for “medicinal purposes,” requires careful balancing of these benefits and risks. last reviewed april 2022 the contents of this website are for educational purposes and are not intended to offer personal medical advice. you should seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition. never disregard professional medical advice or delay in seeking it because of something you have read on this website. the nutrition source does not recommend or endorse any products. use healthy oils (like olive and canola oil) for cooking, on salad, and at the table. limit butter. avoid trans fat. drink water, tea, or coffee (with little or no sugar). limit milk/dairy (1 2 servings/day) and juice (1 small glass/day). avoid sugary drinks. the more veggies   and the greater the variety   the better. potatoes and french fries don’t count. eat plenty of fruits of all colors choose fish, poultry, beans, and nuts; limit red meat and cheese; avoid bacon, cold cuts, and other processed meats. eat a variety of whole grains (like whole wheat bread, whole grain pasta, and brown rice). limit refined grains (like white rice and white bread). incorporate physical activity into your daily routine. create healthy, balanced meals using this visual guide as a blueprint. thank you for supporting our mission of translating food and nutrition knowledge into daily practice! make a gift a monthly update filled with nutrition news and tips from harvard experts all designed to help you eat healthier. sign up here. explore the downloadable guide with tips and strategies for healthy eating and healthy living.

alcohol is riskier than previously thought, but weighing the trade offs of health risks can be deeply personal. this was an enlightening read. keep calm and carry on i give up going this way and that way, always in moderation… i’m past my sell by date anyway. i am eternally grateful for my ability to drink when i want, and not drink when i want. several friends i know both in berlin and in the us have had such difficulty moderating their intake that they quit entirely. they don’t seem to know when to stop. i enjoy alcohol far too much to ever consider giving it up forever, but have zero issues abstaining for days when i am simply not in the mood. if it shaves off a week or two at the end of my life? eh. alcohol has a measurable impact on my blood pressure. that being said, my philosophy is “moderation in all things, including moderation.” arbitrarily limiting myself if i am in the mood to have a beverage (or several) is not good for my blood pressure either yes, i’m too old to gaf about today’s research that will probably be refuted tomorrow. alcohol has a measurable impact on my blood pressure. i find going online can have a similar effect on me on occasion. the booze route is more enjoyable by far yes! and one should also be careful when mixing going online with booze. or so i’ve been told i was reflecting on this article this morning and it occurred to me that a lot of socializing tends to focus on gathering for an activity. the most common, for adults anyway, is often drinking. sure, there might be food, but even still it’s the drinking that can be the looming presence for those who are trying to change their habits for whatever reason. we don’t all just hang out to hang out as adults. or, more importantly, it doesn’t always feel that way for many people. it’s hard to break the habit of making a different choice (not to drink) when other there are other factors someone might be more sensitive to than others (social anxiety that is buffered by the drink, either as calming factor or thing to busy yourself with in between interactions). and, it can be hard for some people to be in places where they might be tempted, even if they don’t have a drinking problem. if i was avoiding fried food and a friend wanted to go to a fried chicken place, i’d probably defer and be comfortable being upfront why. for whatever reason, probably the possible fear of worry that others may think you have a drinking problem, it takes a while to have the self confidence to just get that soda or seltzer (or mocktail, now that those are more prevalent) while others are imbibing. socially, in some ways, we are still that 15 year old who doesn’t want to be different. because drinking is so socially ingrained (at least for gen x on up through boomer. i can’t speak to the experience of millennials and younger.), it may be harder for some to be upfront with their friends   “i’d love to hang out, but i’m not drinking. want to do ‘___’ instead?” and then, hopefully, on the friends’ end they are also able to be thoughtful about what kind of activities they may want to lead with when reaching out to hang. i say this as someone who was working with the frustrations of a friend who couldn’t drink due to a med interaction for a while (and added frustration that they just couldn’t be “normal”). it’s amazing the ruts we get into. “ok, the bar we like is out. well, here are some restaurants we like that are dry. oh, ok then, wanna go see a movie? how about the barnes and noble? want to just take a drive somewhere?” the article spends a fair amount of time trying to make the reader (who is presumably not drinking) feel good about their choices because health. since these health findings could easily be debunked by some other report that shows that health improvements when imbibing next week, i wish the articles would just spend more time on making people feel good about making your own choices for yourself (assuming you’re not hurting yourself or others) and being ok with it. two of my gal pals quit drinking, and yeah   we don’t see them nearly as often, bc my lady posse does tend to meet at a bar / brewery / beer garden 9 out of 10 times. that said, i’ve hosted weekend afternoon clothing & jewelry exchanges where booze was theoretically available, but certainly not the sole focus (i’m also not a day drinker at all). we mostly just get together to have girl time and catch up on stuff (but still within the confines of a drinking establishment of sorts). i do like the trend of more n/a drinks & mocktails being available at bars for those who abstain for whatever reasons. i dunno’. for medical reasons i haven’t been drinking alcohol for a while now. but gatherings with friends and family still have alcohol, and it doesn’t bother me to go places that have bars (some of my favorite local eateries are pubs). maybe i’m old or maybe i’ve just drank my fill for the time being or maybe i just don’t want to experience the effects it will have with my meds that said, i’d like to think my family, friends and i could find other things to do if one was uncomfortable in situations where alcohol was present (especially if drinking was a focal point). i got together once or twice a months with toronto chowhounds to eat from 2006 2015. about half of us would have a cocktail or 2, and some were non  drinkers. my other main social groups drank more, especially the skiers who like après ski. i have always liked cocktails or pop/soda more than wine or beer, so i would usually give my free wine or beer tickets at socials to people who appreciated them more than me. apart from a few times when i attempted a glass of red wine at home to keep myself from snacking after dinner while dieting, i have never been someone who drinks alcohol at home unless i have company over. my social life has changed a lot in 4 years. i haven’t hosted a house party since 2018. i gave my friend most of my open bottles from my liquor cabinet 2 years ago. right now, all i have in my apartment is a bit of dark rum, some creme de menthe, an unopened bottle of amaretto, and an unopened bottle of triple sec, all for baking. i will probably give those to my friend this fall, as well. for cooking, i keep port, vermouth, screw cap white wine and screw cap red wine around. my circle of friends i see now is a little smaller. i’m still seeing the ones i used to do drinks with. i go to patios with them for food, or i go for walks and coffee, or live music. i had a margarita last weekend, which was my first drink since last summer. maybe i’ll just drink occasionally daiquiris and margaritas going forward. i’ve read a variety of articles on drinking, mocktail’s comeback with no stigma attached as well as asking my dr. about it. making a lighter alcoholic drink is my moderation. having worked in a music culture where drinking is a given, and overdoing it a right of passage, a buds ritual and a rigg workers meal, i’m way past thinking it’s all that necessary. but  a well made cocktail doesn’t need to be super dosed to be enjoyable. i measure my buzz of choice with a mindset of relaxation. i was surprised that the museum i frequent had 2 mocktails and no cocktails as the drink features for the exhibition opening last night. one featured seedlip gin. the museum still has wine, mainstream beer and craft beer available for guests. i have never seen mocktails offered before. usually openings feature a cocktail with various local distilleries’ liquor. one of the mocktails was so popular that the bar ran out of seedlip gin. my drink last night? club soda with a squeeze of grenadine from the squeeze bottle of grenadine. the mocktail that was available contained orange juice, and i’m not too fond of lost orange juice, so grenadined club soda it was! my drinking has been very minimal over the past couple of years, but… about 2 months ago i had a meeting with an acquaintance and it didn’t go well. when i got home, i dug all the way to the back of pantry and found the emergency bottle of vodka. sunshine came into the kitchen and saw the bottle of vodka out and me opening it up. she said “should i assume your meeting didn’t go well” and i acknowledged that was a correct assumption. she asked if i wanted to talk about it, i said “nope” and i proceeded to have vodka for dinner. although i had a hangover the next day, i was glad to have that emergency bottle of vodka in the house. mocktails are very popular. the definition is also fairly broad now that brand name spirits are also being made alcohol free. initially, a mocktail was made without any reference to a brand name spirit. after seemingly a string of non stop social engagements that didn’t revolve around but certainly entailed the consumption of various alcoholic beverages, my pic and i are so ready for a break from it. we never got together with our berlin buddy who’d just gotten out of rehab in wannsee this summer. he’s still pretty sensitive about being around other people drinking, so next year he’s hopefully in a stronger place (or we’ll meet for coffee). my other buddy who’s been talked into rehab by his gf i think has much deeper lying issues (adhd at the very least) that should probz be addressed before putting him in an inpatient clinic. it’s not a good scenario. he needs help, but a different approach. interesting. as always, many thanks for providing us a gift link. i’ve been saying for a long time that i’m going to quit because it interferes with my ability to lose weight (which i seriously need to do). due both to the drink calories and to the midnight binge eating that often accompany the drinks. the study results mentioned in this article are another reason, for me at least. eta on this   have zero issues abstaining for days when i am simply not in the mood i’m similar but a bit different. if i don’t drink, i don’t miss it or have any cravings, or any w/d symptoms. but when i do drink, if i go past a certain point, then i will over indulge. bc my lady posse does tend to meet at a bar / brewery / beer garden 9 out of 10 times. just curious but most bars and breweries here in california have started over the last 2 3 years to have good na options (and they are continuously improving   some of the mocktails for our daughter are impressively good). does the bars and breweries in your area don’t have good na options. oh, they do, but if you’ve ever stayed stone cold sober while those around you are getting tipsy, you may have felt out of place. people vibe differently. great insight. i’ve noticed the food with alcohol frequently, which is a good thing. i think the enjoyment of alcohol goes hand in hand with food and water. as a jailer, we’ve experimented with this, and the inclusion of food/h2o makes drunk driving much more unlikely for a person who imbibes alcohol. doesn’t mean you can bolt down a 6er in two hours and drive home because you had a cheesy cracker. food and water allow to be in the perfect zone when consuming alcohol; as opposed to progressive stupidity through greater consumption. powered by discourse, best viewed with javascript enabled

mayo clinic offers appointments in arizona, florida and minnesota and at mayo clinic health system locations. drinking alcohol is a health risk regardless of the amount. research on alcohol suggests a sobering conclusion: drinking alcohol in any amount carries a health risk. while the risk is low for moderate intake, the risk goes up as the amount you drink goes up. many people drink alcohol as a personal preference, during social activities, or as a part of cultural and religious practices. people who choose not to drink make that choice for the same reasons. knowing your personal risk based on your habits can help you make the best decision for you. the evidence for moderate alcohol use in healthy adults is still being studied. but good evidence shows that drinking high amounts of alcohol are clearly linked to health problems. here's a closer look at alcohol and health. moderate alcohol use may not mean the same thing in research studies or among health agencies. in the united states, moderate drinking for healthy adults is different for men and women. it means on days when a person does drink, women do not have more than one drink and men do not have more than two drinks. examples of one drink include: health agencies outside the u.s. may define one drink differently. the term "moderate" also may be used differently. for example, it may be used to define the risk of illness or injury based on the number of drinks a person has in a week. the bottom line is that alcohol is potentially addictive, can cause intoxication, and contributes to health problems and preventable deaths. if you already drink at low levels and continue to drink, risks for these issues appear to be low. but the risk is not zero. for example, any amount of drinking increases the risk of breast cancer and colorectal cancer. as consumption goes up, the risk goes up for these cancers. it is a tiny, but real, increased risk. drinking also adds calories that can contribute to weight gain. and drinking raises the risk of problems in the digestive system. in the past, moderate drinking was thought to be linked with a lower risk of dying from heart disease and possibly diabetes. after more analysis of the research, that doesn't seem to be the case. in general, a healthy diet and physical activity have much greater health benefits than alcohol and have been more extensively studied. heavy drinking, including binge drinking, is a high risk activity. the definition of heavy drinking is based on a person's sex. for women, more than three drinks on any day or more than seven drinks a week is heavy drinking. for men, heavy drinking means more than four drinks on any day or more than 14 drinks a week. binge drinking is behavior that raises blood alcohol levels to 0.08%. that usually means four or more drinks within two hours for women and five or more drinks within two hours for men. heavy drinking can increase your risk of serious health problems, including: heavy drinking also has been linked to intentional injuries, such as suicide, as well as accidental injury and death. during pregnancy, drinking may cause the unborn baby to have brain damage and other problems. heavy drinking also may result in alcohol withdrawal symptoms. in some situations, the risk of drinking any amount of alcohol is high. avoid all alcohol if you: in the united states, people younger than age 21 are not legally able to drink alcohol. when taking care of children, avoid alcohol. and the same goes for driving or if you need to be alert and able to react to changing situations. lots of activities affect your health. some are riskier than others. when it comes to alcohol, if you don't drink, don't start for health reasons. drinking moderately if you're otherwise healthy may be a risk you're willing to take. but heavy drinking carries a much higher risk even for those without other health concerns. be sure to ask your healthcare professional about what's right for your health and safety. there is a problem with information submitted for this request. review/update the information highlighted below and resubmit the form. sign up for free and stay up to date on research advancements, health tips, current health topics, and expertise on managing health. click here for an email preview. erroremail field is required errorinclude a valid email address you'll soon start receiving the latest mayo clinic health information you requested in your inbox. please, try again in a couple of minutes mayo clinic does not endorse companies or products. advertising revenue supports our not for profit mission. check out these best sellers and special offers on books and newsletters from mayo clinic press. your donation powers the future of medicine and helps save lives. © 1998 2025 mayo foundation for medical education and research (mfmer). all rights reserved.

linkedin and 3rd parties use essential and non essential cookies to provide, secure, analyze and improve our services, and to show you relevant ads (including professional and job ads) on and off linkedin. learn more in our cookie policy. select accept to consent or reject to decline non essential cookies for this use. you can update your choices at any time in your settings. agree & join linkedin by clicking continue to join or sign in, you agree to linkedin’s user agreement, privacy policy, and cookie policy. addiction psychologist | professional speaker | podcast host | opinions stated are my own insightful article by nyt about changing perspectives in alcohol related risk. a couple passages in particular that resonated with me: "more recently, though, research has piled up debunking the idea that moderate drinking is good for you. last year, a major meta analysis that re examined 107 studies over 40 years came to the conclusion that no amount of alcohol improves health; and in 2022, a well designed study found that consuming even a small amount brought some risk to heart health. that same year, nature published research stating that consuming as little as one or two drinks a day (even less for women) was associated with shrinkage in the brain   a phenomenon normally associated with aging." "how much time does a certain amount of drinking shave off your life? for those who have two drinks a week, that choice amounts to less than one week of lost life on average, [stockwell] said. consume seven alcoholic beverages a week, and that amount goes up to about two and a half months. those who push five drinks a day or more face the risk of losing, on average, upward of two years, said stockwell. he emphasized that all those numbers were averages   and that it was impossible to predict the level of impact an individual person would experience." i'll be releasing a podcast on the impact of alcohol with drs. laura kwako, ph.d. and thekla brumder ross, psyd in the next week or so   i'll look forward to diving into the discourse! #alcohol #publichealth #wellness #prevention https://lnkd.in/gdcksud9 court/probation/us dot sap nationwide certified eclasses & ecoaching certifiedprotraining.thinkific.com certification mentalhealth first aid ace trauma informed care registered court resources affiliate services provider this is indeed an insightful article by the nyt. it’s fascinating to see how our understanding of alcohol related risks has evolved over time. the debunking of the idea that moderate drinking is beneficial to health, and the revelation that even a small amount of alcohol can pose risks to heart health and cause brain shrinkage, are significant findings. the quantification of life lost due to drinking is particularly striking. it’s a sobering reminder of the potential consequences of alcohol consumption, even though these are averages and individual impacts may vary. i’m eagerly looking forward to your upcoming podcast with drs. laura kwako and thekla brumder ross. it will be interesting to delve deeper into the discourse on the impact of alcohol. your work in this field is commendable and i’m sure the podcast will shed more light on this important topic. keep up the great work! to view or add a comment, sign in meditative drawing workshops online & paper engineering for launch invitations & dm, paper & pixel good to have specific information on the impact of low level drinking on health (2 drinks per week), not simply conjecture. addiction psychologist | professional speaker | podcast host | opinions stated are my own insightful article by nyt about changing perspectives in alcohol related risk. a couple passages in particular that resonated with me: "more recently, though, research has piled up debunking the idea that moderate drinking is good for you. last year, a major meta analysis that re examined 107 studies over 40 years came to the conclusion that no amount of alcohol improves health; and in 2022, a well designed study found that consuming even a small amount brought some risk to heart health. that same year, nature published research stating that consuming as little as one or two drinks a day (even less for women) was associated with shrinkage in the brain   a phenomenon normally associated with aging." "how much time does a certain amount of drinking shave off your life? for those who have two drinks a week, that choice amounts to less than one week of lost life on average, [stockwell] said. consume seven alcoholic beverages a week, and that amount goes up to about two and a half months. those who push five drinks a day or more face the risk of losing, on average, upward of two years, said stockwell. he emphasized that all those numbers were averages   and that it was impossible to predict the level of impact an individual person would experience." i'll be releasing a podcast on the impact of alcohol with drs. laura kwako, ph.d. and thekla brumder ross, psyd in the next week or so   i'll look forward to diving into the discourse! #alcohol #publichealth #wellness #prevention https://lnkd.in/gdcksud9 to view or add a comment, sign in founder @ partake brewing non alcoholic beer | ey entrepreneur of the year | crohn's & diabetes advocate | canadian amateur squash champion | aspiring pickleball player is that drink worth it to you? 🤔 📰 this thought provoking article was published in the new york times this week exploring the personal, social and health trade offs related to alcohol consumption faced by consumers today. 🚶♂️ when i started my journey to drink healthier and moved away from alcohol the prevailing media messages were "red wine is good for you" and "beer is good for you"   a message not of moderation but encouragement without any balance given to the negative side of alcohol consumption. 💡 in the last 5 years the balance of research and with it media attention has shifted the narrative to one of caution at any level of consumption. 🏋♀️ the popularization of health and wellness as an aspirational virtue, and amplified by influencers like andrew huberman, has certainly accelerated the discussion and brought greater transparency to important choices that we each must make in our day to day lives. 🤩 for me that trade off was easy to justify and it has had a profound positive impact on my life across personal health, family, and business just to name a few. 👇 let me know how your drinking habits have changed in light of new research, guidelines, and media attention around alcohol consumption 🍷 🍺 *article behind a pay wall https://lnkd.in/gq_qr6rb to view or add a comment, sign in interesting article....thoughts? "alcohol is riskier than previously thought, but weighing the trade offs of health risks can be deeply personal." to drink or not drink is a highly personal decision. i have enjoyed not drinking for almost 5 years. i do think it can be hard to be a non drinker because so many social interactions are centered around alcohol. i do think many people can engage with alcohol in a healthy way. but where is the line? so many questions. would love your thoughts! https://lnkd.in/gwafp_3n to view or add a comment, sign in founder & ceo, january ai research has made it clear that no amount of alcohol is good for you. last year, ireland became the first country to require cancer warnings on all alcohol products, such as the warnings already found on cigarettes. health concerns are just one of the reasons why drinking is on the decline, especially among young people. however, alcohol remains rooted in our culture, making it difficult to decline a drink at social functions and work events. i’ve been glad to see more nonalcoholic offerings for “sober curious” people. if you’re trying to drink less, there are a number of options for you! next time you’re at a bar, try looking for mocktails or even a diet soda. what are your favorite alcohol substitutes? #health #alcohol #drinking #prevention #longevity #precisionhealth #ai4good to view or add a comment, sign in llb (hons) london | attorney   at   law (reading) you are probably not going to like what i am about to say. the statement 'having a glass or two of red wine every night is good for your health' is officially debunked. research from 2023 that re examined 107 studies done over the past 40 years has concluded that no amount of alcohol improves health. studies are now showing that consuming even a small amount poses a risk to heart health. let's dive in. the new york times magazine published an article last month titled 'is that drink worth it?' detailing what we now understand about the effects of alcohol in our bodies. while it is a deeply sensitive topic for many, the studies on alcohol consumption that we currently have are clear in their conclusion: alcohol consumption, even in moderate amounts each day, poses no health benefits whatsoever. in ireland, the government is pushing a new message based on current updated research by mandating through legislation a cancer warning on all alcoholic beverages, quite similar to how we warn cigarette users. this will become active in 2026. all alcoholic beverages will say, "there is a direct link between alcohol and fatal cancers." (source: https://lnkd.in/gju dp25). cancer warning... on booze. sri lanka has a massive drinking culture that is not statistically tracked. we simply don't know how much we are drinking. what we can gather from the skyrocketing profits of the industry is that sri lankan's love their booze. to what end, from an individual or collective standpoint, remains to be seen. link to the main article: https://lnkd.in/ghbtb9dh #srilanka #alcohol to view or add a comment, sign in blue zone nutritionist at bluezonenutrition.co.uk i’ve written many posts about alcohol, but the misconceptions persist. it’s reassuring to hear dr. mark hyman, someone i deeply respect, echoing my concerns: alcohol isn’t as harmless as we’ve been led to believe. the narrative that a little wine is “good for your heart” is outdated. here’s the truth: alcohol is linked to seven types of cancer, disrupts sleep, inflames your gut, and increases your lifetime risk of chronic disease. even light drinking raises your cancer risk. and yet, most people still believe alcohol is “healthy” the same way people once believed smoking was fine. the recent call for cancer warnings on alcohol labels by the u.s. surgeon general is a big step toward changing this narrative. but many people aren’t ready to hear it. so, if you’re reaching for that glass of wine, ask yourself: • do you understand the real risks? • are you making a mindful, intentional choice or falling for outdated health myths? cutting back doesn’t mean giving up enjoyment. there are smarter ways to relax, unwind, and socialize without compromising your health. at #bluezonenutrition, we help people build healthier relationships with food, drinks, and their bodies. if you’re rethinking alcohol’s role in your life, reach out for personalized guidance. your health goals don’t have to include alcohol. 👉 dm us at #bluezonenutrition for support! #alcoholandhealth #cancerrisk #rethinkdrinking #nutritionmatters #bluezonelife #dryjanuary to view or add a comment, sign in 764 followers i recently read this the new york times article about the health risks of drinking and it made me reexamine my own habits and relationship with alcohol. more and more people are shifting to a sober lifestyle or consider themselves "sober curious". what is your relationship with alcohol? are you interested in reducing or eliminating your alcohol consumption but don't quite know where to start? my colleague jeanette hu specializes in this area and created a free ebook filled with some great resources. check it out: https://lnkd.in/gup53mhm https://lnkd.in/gtwdxgqp to view or add a comment, sign in neuroscientist | mental health consultant & entrepreneur | founder & ceo of objective recovery | personalized solutions to substance use | healthtech | free spirited explorer new large study shows harms even from occasional drinking 🍷🍺 tracking >135,000 mature adults (60 years and older) over 12 years has shed light on the risks of even light alcohol consumption. key findings (see link to paper in comment) include: ⚠️ 𝗜𝗻𝗰𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘀𝗲𝗱 𝗺𝗼𝗿𝘁𝗮𝗹𝗶𝘁𝘆 𝗳𝗿𝗼𝗺 𝗰𝗮𝗻𝗰𝗲𝗿 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗼𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿 𝗰𝗮𝘂𝘀𝗲𝘀:   occasional drinkers showed higher cancer mortality compared to non drinkers.   moderate drinkers experienced higher all cause mortality than light drinkers.   high risk drinkers faced increased cancer, cardiovascular, and all cause mortality. ❤️ 𝗡𝗼 𝗵𝗲𝗮𝗿𝘁 𝗵𝗲𝗮𝗹𝘁𝗵 𝗯𝗲𝗻𝗲𝗳𝗶𝘁𝘀: the study found no reduction in heart disease deaths among light or moderate drinkers. those with health related and socioeconomic risk factors faced even greater excess mortality, especially from cancer. ✔️ in contrast, i hear hundreds of anecdotes from all age groups on how reducing alcohol consumption, or stopping drinking entirely, makes people healthier and happier. they almost immediately have better diets, lose weight or build muscle, see positive changes in medical conditions, and just feel better and more energetic. ✔️ my own story, first about harm reduction and eventually quitting permanently, is one of those examples as well. 𝗔𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝗮𝗻𝘆 𝗻𝗲𝗴𝗮𝘁𝗶𝘃𝗲𝘀 𝗮𝘀𝘀𝗼𝗰𝗶𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗱𝗿𝗶𝗻𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴? sometimes a subjective downside is a dip in social activities, but most people learn to have fun in more satisfying ways. drinking can mask mental health issues, and quitting can exacerbate certain symptoms. however, aren’t these also upsides when they force us to face our realities with a clearer mind and more able body, and seek real solutions? 🌐 both the new study, and countless stories about what happens when people quit, emphasize that no amount of alcohol is truly safe for health. as a consequence, global drinking guidelines are becoming more conservative. what has been your experience❓ #alcohol #publichealth #mentalhealth #fitness #wellness to view or add a comment, sign in 829 followers 🍻 it's still men's health month! did you know that higher levels of testosterone in men make them more likely to drink more alcohol than women? excessive drinking especially seven or more drinks a week can lead to serious health problems like cancer, heart disease, liver disease, and injuries. but don't worry, you can cut back and live a healthier lifestyle with these easy steps: 🍹 quench your thirst with alcohol free drinks like sparkling water or mocktails. 🙅♂️ limit or avoid time with friends who drink excessively. 🧘♂️ swap that bedtime drink for a calming meditation session. 🏃♂️ when feeling bored or stressed, get active instead. 🍽️ have a meal before your first drink to avoid drinking on an empty stomach. discover more tips here: https://lnkd.in/gexbjcgz #menshealthmonth #healthyliving #alcoholawareness to view or add a comment, sign in healthtech growth architect｜food as medicine evangelist｜celebrity interviewer｜farmer #digitalhealth continues to support consumers in their pursuit of better health. great news if you're thinking of cutting back on alcohol this month (or longer!) is that there are resources in your pocket to help. sunnyside is the first company profiled in this article, noted for its upbeat approach and positive focus. https://lnkd.in/esfxdddx to view or add a comment, sign in 11,938 followers create your free account or sign in to continue your search or by clicking continue to join or sign in, you agree to linkedin’s user agreement, privacy policy, and cookie policy. new to linkedin? join now or new to linkedin? join now by clicking continue to join or sign in, you agree to linkedin’s user agreement, privacy policy, and cookie policy. linkedin never miss a beat on the app don’t have the app? get it in the microsoft store.

linkedin and 3rd parties use essential and non essential cookies to provide, secure, analyze and improve our services, and to show you relevant ads (including professional and job ads) on and off linkedin. learn more in our cookie policy. select accept to consent or reject to decline non essential cookies for this use. you can update your choices at any time in your settings. agree & join linkedin by clicking continue to join or sign in, you agree to linkedin’s user agreement, privacy policy, and cookie policy. meditative drawing workshops online & paper engineering for launch invitations & dm, paper & pixel good to have specific information on the impact of low level drinking on health (2 drinks per week), not simply conjecture. addiction psychologist | professional speaker | podcast host | opinions stated are my own insightful article by nyt about changing perspectives in alcohol related risk. a couple passages in particular that resonated with me: "more recently, though, research has piled up debunking the idea that moderate drinking is good for you. last year, a major meta analysis that re examined 107 studies over 40 years came to the conclusion that no amount of alcohol improves health; and in 2022, a well designed study found that consuming even a small amount brought some risk to heart health. that same year, nature published research stating that consuming as little as one or two drinks a day (even less for women) was associated with shrinkage in the brain   a phenomenon normally associated with aging." "how much time does a certain amount of drinking shave off your life? for those who have two drinks a week, that choice amounts to less than one week of lost life on average, [stockwell] said. consume seven alcoholic beverages a week, and that amount goes up to about two and a half months. those who push five drinks a day or more face the risk of losing, on average, upward of two years, said stockwell. he emphasized that all those numbers were averages   and that it was impossible to predict the level of impact an individual person would experience." i'll be releasing a podcast on the impact of alcohol with drs. laura kwako, ph.d. and thekla brumder ross, psyd in the next week or so   i'll look forward to diving into the discourse! #alcohol #publichealth #wellness #prevention https://lnkd.in/gdcksud9 to view or add a comment, sign in addiction psychologist | professional speaker | podcast host | opinions stated are my own insightful article by nyt about changing perspectives in alcohol related risk. a couple passages in particular that resonated with me: "more recently, though, research has piled up debunking the idea that moderate drinking is good for you. last year, a major meta analysis that re examined 107 studies over 40 years came to the conclusion that no amount of alcohol improves health; and in 2022, a well designed study found that consuming even a small amount brought some risk to heart health. that same year, nature published research stating that consuming as little as one or two drinks a day (even less for women) was associated with shrinkage in the brain   a phenomenon normally associated with aging." "how much time does a certain amount of drinking shave off your life? for those who have two drinks a week, that choice amounts to less than one week of lost life on average, [stockwell] said. consume seven alcoholic beverages a week, and that amount goes up to about two and a half months. those who push five drinks a day or more face the risk of losing, on average, upward of two years, said stockwell. he emphasized that all those numbers were averages   and that it was impossible to predict the level of impact an individual person would experience." i'll be releasing a podcast on the impact of alcohol with drs. laura kwako, ph.d. and thekla brumder ross, psyd in the next week or so   i'll look forward to diving into the discourse! #alcohol #publichealth #wellness #prevention https://lnkd.in/gdcksud9 to view or add a comment, sign in founder @ partake brewing non alcoholic beer | ey entrepreneur of the year | crohn's & diabetes advocate | canadian amateur squash champion | aspiring pickleball player is that drink worth it to you? 🤔 📰 this thought provoking article was published in the new york times this week exploring the personal, social and health trade offs related to alcohol consumption faced by consumers today. 🚶♂️ when i started my journey to drink healthier and moved away from alcohol the prevailing media messages were "red wine is good for you" and "beer is good for you"   a message not of moderation but encouragement without any balance given to the negative side of alcohol consumption. 💡 in the last 5 years the balance of research and with it media attention has shifted the narrative to one of caution at any level of consumption. 🏋♀️ the popularization of health and wellness as an aspirational virtue, and amplified by influencers like andrew huberman, has certainly accelerated the discussion and brought greater transparency to important choices that we each must make in our day to day lives. 🤩 for me that trade off was easy to justify and it has had a profound positive impact on my life across personal health, family, and business just to name a few. 👇 let me know how your drinking habits have changed in light of new research, guidelines, and media attention around alcohol consumption 🍷 🍺 *article behind a pay wall https://lnkd.in/gq_qr6rb to view or add a comment, sign in interesting article....thoughts? "alcohol is riskier than previously thought, but weighing the trade offs of health risks can be deeply personal." to drink or not drink is a highly personal decision. i have enjoyed not drinking for almost 5 years. i do think it can be hard to be a non drinker because so many social interactions are centered around alcohol. i do think many people can engage with alcohol in a healthy way. but where is the line? so many questions. would love your thoughts! https://lnkd.in/gwafp_3n to view or add a comment, sign in founder & ceo, january ai research has made it clear that no amount of alcohol is good for you. last year, ireland became the first country to require cancer warnings on all alcohol products, such as the warnings already found on cigarettes. health concerns are just one of the reasons why drinking is on the decline, especially among young people. however, alcohol remains rooted in our culture, making it difficult to decline a drink at social functions and work events. i’ve been glad to see more nonalcoholic offerings for “sober curious” people. if you’re trying to drink less, there are a number of options for you! next time you’re at a bar, try looking for mocktails or even a diet soda. what are your favorite alcohol substitutes? #health #alcohol #drinking #prevention #longevity #precisionhealth #ai4good to view or add a comment, sign in llb (hons) london | attorney   at   law (reading) you are probably not going to like what i am about to say. the statement 'having a glass or two of red wine every night is good for your health' is officially debunked. research from 2023 that re examined 107 studies done over the past 40 years has concluded that no amount of alcohol improves health. studies are now showing that consuming even a small amount poses a risk to heart health. let's dive in. the new york times magazine published an article last month titled 'is that drink worth it?' detailing what we now understand about the effects of alcohol in our bodies. while it is a deeply sensitive topic for many, the studies on alcohol consumption that we currently have are clear in their conclusion: alcohol consumption, even in moderate amounts each day, poses no health benefits whatsoever. in ireland, the government is pushing a new message based on current updated research by mandating through legislation a cancer warning on all alcoholic beverages, quite similar to how we warn cigarette users. this will become active in 2026. all alcoholic beverages will say, "there is a direct link between alcohol and fatal cancers." (source: https://lnkd.in/gju dp25). cancer warning... on booze. sri lanka has a massive drinking culture that is not statistically tracked. we simply don't know how much we are drinking. what we can gather from the skyrocketing profits of the industry is that sri lankan's love their booze. to what end, from an individual or collective standpoint, remains to be seen. link to the main article: https://lnkd.in/ghbtb9dh #srilanka #alcohol to view or add a comment, sign in blue zone nutritionist at bluezonenutrition.co.uk i’ve written many posts about alcohol, but the misconceptions persist. it’s reassuring to hear dr. mark hyman, someone i deeply respect, echoing my concerns: alcohol isn’t as harmless as we’ve been led to believe. the narrative that a little wine is “good for your heart” is outdated. here’s the truth: alcohol is linked to seven types of cancer, disrupts sleep, inflames your gut, and increases your lifetime risk of chronic disease. even light drinking raises your cancer risk. and yet, most people still believe alcohol is “healthy” the same way people once believed smoking was fine. the recent call for cancer warnings on alcohol labels by the u.s. surgeon general is a big step toward changing this narrative. but many people aren’t ready to hear it. so, if you’re reaching for that glass of wine, ask yourself: • do you understand the real risks? • are you making a mindful, intentional choice or falling for outdated health myths? cutting back doesn’t mean giving up enjoyment. there are smarter ways to relax, unwind, and socialize without compromising your health. at #bluezonenutrition, we help people build healthier relationships with food, drinks, and their bodies. if you’re rethinking alcohol’s role in your life, reach out for personalized guidance. your health goals don’t have to include alcohol. 👉 dm us at #bluezonenutrition for support! #alcoholandhealth #cancerrisk #rethinkdrinking #nutritionmatters #bluezonelife #dryjanuary to view or add a comment, sign in 764 followers i recently read this the new york times article about the health risks of drinking and it made me reexamine my own habits and relationship with alcohol. more and more people are shifting to a sober lifestyle or consider themselves "sober curious". what is your relationship with alcohol? are you interested in reducing or eliminating your alcohol consumption but don't quite know where to start? my colleague jeanette hu specializes in this area and created a free ebook filled with some great resources. check it out: https://lnkd.in/gup53mhm https://lnkd.in/gtwdxgqp to view or add a comment, sign in neuroscientist | mental health consultant & entrepreneur | founder & ceo of objective recovery | personalized solutions to substance use | healthtech | free spirited explorer new large study shows harms even from occasional drinking 🍷🍺 tracking >135,000 mature adults (60 years and older) over 12 years has shed light on the risks of even light alcohol consumption. key findings (see link to paper in comment) include: ⚠️ 𝗜𝗻𝗰𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘀𝗲𝗱 𝗺𝗼𝗿𝘁𝗮𝗹𝗶𝘁𝘆 𝗳𝗿𝗼𝗺 𝗰𝗮𝗻𝗰𝗲𝗿 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗼𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿 𝗰𝗮𝘂𝘀𝗲𝘀:   occasional drinkers showed higher cancer mortality compared to non drinkers.   moderate drinkers experienced higher all cause mortality than light drinkers.   high risk drinkers faced increased cancer, cardiovascular, and all cause mortality. ❤️ 𝗡𝗼 𝗵𝗲𝗮𝗿𝘁 𝗵𝗲𝗮𝗹𝘁𝗵 𝗯𝗲𝗻𝗲𝗳𝗶𝘁𝘀: the study found no reduction in heart disease deaths among light or moderate drinkers. those with health related and socioeconomic risk factors faced even greater excess mortality, especially from cancer. ✔️ in contrast, i hear hundreds of anecdotes from all age groups on how reducing alcohol consumption, or stopping drinking entirely, makes people healthier and happier. they almost immediately have better diets, lose weight or build muscle, see positive changes in medical conditions, and just feel better and more energetic. ✔️ my own story, first about harm reduction and eventually quitting permanently, is one of those examples as well. 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transcript this transcript was created using speech recognition software. while it has been reviewed by human transcribers, it may contain errors. please review the episode audio before quoting from this transcript and email transcripts@nytimes.com with any questions. from “the new york times,” i’m natalie kitroeff and this is “the daily.” [music playing] midway through one of the booziest holiday weekends of the year, we re examine our love/hate relationship with alcohol. today, my colleague susan dominus on how bad, or not, drinking is for you. it’s friday, july 5th. so you and i are both here to discuss our relationship to alcohol, a topic that i think endlessly fascinates us, because for the past several decades, we’ve gotten conflicting guidance on the benefits and risks of drinking. and you, sue, you decided to finally get to the bottom of it. thank you. [laughs]: well, i tried. i mean, i think a lot of people do have a lot of confusion. i know that i feel that way. my friends and i are talking about it all the time. and i was very happy to have the opportunity to actually look at it journalistically. i’m curious what it was that made you head down this journalistic path. about a year ago   i have a dear friend, and i kept saying to her, hey, let’s get together for a drink. how’s next tuesday? and she was a little bit evasive. and finally we ended up going for a walk, at which point, it became clear that she was not avoiding me, but she was avoiding going for a drink. and she was somebody who didn’t drink a ton. she was like a once a   maybe a drink with dinner every night person. and she was trying to go to zero. she was doing this because she had been hearing reports, podcasts, headlines, that alcohol was much more dangerous than previously understood. and she just kind of got freaked out, to be honest, and stopped pretty much altogether. yeah, i saw those same headlines, some of them in our newspaper. they were hard to miss, even if you were trying to miss them. yeah, i think that’s true. and i guess i just thought, is it so bad that you need to stop drinking altogether? is it really even that bad that you need to stop having your one drink a night, if that brings you joy and relaxation at the end of a stressful work day? i just felt like it was sort of bizarre that we didn’t have an answer to that question. right. and i realized that it was not a question i could answer just by looking at the news right now. i think some of the confusion that we have actually starts because of research that was being published in the ‘90s. and back then, the news was, alcohol might actually be good for you. there has been for years the belief by doctors in many countries that alcohol, in particular red wine, reduces the risk of heart disease. now it’s been all but confirmed. there was all this research that suggested that drinking red wine had a protective effect on heart health. right, i remember that. yeah, there was famously an episode of “60 minutes”  the wine has a flushing effect. it removes platelets from the artery wall.   in which morley safer holds up a glass of red wine and says that researchers are finding that this is actually good for your health. so the answer to the riddle may lie in this inviting glass. it was news that was really convenient for people. they really wanted to hear that good news. i suppose that drinking red wine is supposed to be good for me, and so i don’t feel so bad if i have more than one glass. oh, i believe it. that’s why i drink it. i’m 61 years old. [chuckles] and wine sales, red wine sales in the us apparently went up something like 40 percent over the course   wow.   of the following year. and this is, by the way, right at the moment   i think i became a legal drinker in 1991, you know? so for my generation, this was an incredibly influential study. i actually have a friend who told me that he worried at one point that he wasn’t drinking enough red wine to get those health benefits because he wasn’t much of a drinker. and he felt guilty about it. i love that. [chuckles] [music playing] hi, sam. hello, hello. can you hear me? so while i was reporting this out, i called a researcher in canada named tim stockwell, who has studied alcohol’s effects on the body for years. and he was really excited about this research at the time. so i kind of embraced it, really. i thought, isn’t this great? we don’t have to tell a really negative story and say it’s all bad for you. tim was convinced that basically the research was clear that this was settled science, and he even chastised in a commentary published in australia’s leading medical journal people who were still denying these health benefits as sort of tin hat conspiracy theorist types. i likened people who were skeptics of the health benefits of alcohol to members of the flat earth society and to people who doubted that men had been on the moon. but clearly that’s not the end of the discussion, right? i mean, the narrative starts to change at some point. for tim, that really started to change not long after he published that commentary, when he got a call from another researcher named kaye middleton fillmore   she sounded a bit upset that nobody would fund her work on doubting the protective effects. so i heard her out.   who told him that she had a lot of doubts about this research that he thought was so sound. the idea they were sick quitters. so fillmore focused on how the data had been categorized in these studies. and she told him that they often included a category of people called abstainers, people who didn’t drink, but that this category also included a group of people who drank and stopped. and they didn’t take into account the fact that many of the people in this group likely stopped because they were ill. in fact, tim calls them the “sick quitters.” so you have this group of non drinkers that actually includes a number of former drinkers and actually, potentially, sick former drinkers. that’s exactly right. and when you include them in a data set with other non drinkers, it actually makes people who drink moderately look really healthy in comparison. and this creates the illusion that a moderate amount of alcohol is beneficial. hmm. i have to admit, the part of me was intrigued, just those intellectual curiosity. and tim was unconvinced, but was open minded enough to be curious about whether he was wrong about all of this. and the two of them actually started collaborating together. and they got totally into it. i remember spending hours and hours and hours. they ran the numbers, and they came out in 2006 with really different results. and they showed that most likely, fillmore was right. and when you did, indeed, rearrange the data so that the former drinkers were in a different category, the protective effect of moderate alcohol consumption basically disappeared. and so i kept pinching myself. have we really got this right? and to tim, this was super surprising. so, suddenly, this settled science is very unsettled. yeah. boy, did we get commentaries, and it lit a bit of a fuse. and not surprisingly, the alcohol industry is not so excited about these findings, and they push back. one very specific thing was a call for a meeting where researchers were invited, and kaye fillmore was invited. a symposium was gathered that was partly funded by an alcohol industry group. and the result of this meeting was to produce a document which basically summarized all the evidence and concluded that there were definitely benefits from drinking alcohol. and they published a summary of the events afterwards, and they concluded that, actually, moderate alcohol consumption did have beneficial effects. and kaye was mad. she felt like banging her shoe on the table in the meeting because she kept saying, no, i don’t agree. that’s wrong. so there was a lot of resistance. and we kept getting criticism. people say, you got this wrong. you should have done that. so each time, we’d go back, get more studies. so kaye fillmore, tim’s research partner, actually passed away in 2013, but tim continued on with the research into the health impact of alcohol. and in 2023, he and his colleagues published a massive, massive study   it was the most comprehensive, the largest study. i think we had close to 5 million individuals represented.   which found that not only does drinking moderately not have protective effects on your health, but in fact, it increases your risk of all caused mortality, which is to say, dying of pretty much anything   it could be a car crash, could be disease. and that’s true for women when they drink even just a little bit less than two drinks a day. and for men, that’s true at just about over three drinks a day. so the idea was that no amount of drinking is good for you. that’s the most important takeaway. and at not such high levels, you do start to see this increased risk. i mean, it kind of sounds like we’re going from alcohol in the beginning being portrayed as essentially a health food to now it being a public menace. yes, i think one can interpret it that way, and it certainly felt that way, obviously, with a lot of people when they read it. many, many cancer doctors always did disagree with the idea that alcohol could be protective, that it was always known that drinking increased your risk of breast cancer, of esophageal cancer in very real ways. but i think that was underappreciated by the public. like, lots of surveys always found that that information was not penetrating the same way that, like, “red wine is good for your heart” had penetrated. so this was now switching the public messaging pretty dramatically. right, and this time, for whatever reason, their warnings about alcohol seem to have actually landed a little harder in the public consciousness. i mean, i’m thinking about your friend, for example, about myself and a lot of people i know, who are now wondering what to do with that information. yeah, that is for sure. i was curious to hear what tim thought about all this and how he was thinking about it, how he thought we could be thinking about it. i kind of thought that tim was going to have the zeal of the convert, that having been somebody who had reassured everyone that alcohol was just fine for them in moderation, that now he was going to kind of go to the other extreme, and be very finger wagging about how bad alcohol was for you, and basically tell me that i shouldn’t drink at all. [music playing] but in fact   so do you not drink at all anymore, or is it very occasional for you? oh, i just   i’m a light drinker. i’m always astonished how i’m prepared to have 10 minutes of pleasure to feel a little rubbish for several hours the next day. and yet we all do it. i mean, and so   it was really interesting when i got into it with him and tried to talk to him about how he understood the risk. well, one of the things i believe is that we should find ways of helping people grasp the scale of the risk and how it compares with things they can get their head around. what i learned was really a much more nuanced picture. [music playing] we’ll be right back. so this new nuanced picture of drinking, it sounds potentially very appealing. tell me what it looks like. well, i’ve been thinking a lot in my reporting about how to help people understand risk in a way that is not abstract, in a way that they can grasp and apply to their lives in a meaningful way. and there are several different ways that you can think about risk. so, for example, we often talk about how a certain behavior might increase your risk of a poor health outcome by a certain percent or by a certain factor. and so, what does that look like in terms of alcohol? let’s say i drink six drinks a week, which i kind of do, versus someone who has a drink or two a week. tim told me that by having those six drinks, i’ve increased my risk of dying prematurely from some alcohol related cause by a factor of 10   wow.   compared to someone who just has a drink or two a week. now, that sounds really dramatic. like, whoa, i’m increasing my risk of dying from some alcohol related cause by 10 times. right. but even still, it turns out that if i drink those six drinks a week, the risk i was facing of dying from an alcohol related cause was still quite low. on average, that lifetime risk is like 1 percent. hmm. so for me, at this stage in my life, my risk of dying generally is pretty low, knock on wood. and so, really, any incremental added risk on top of that is going to be quite low as well. ok, if i’m getting this right, if you drink six drinks a week, you are 10 times more likely to die from any alcohol related cause than someone who drinks less, which sounds bad, but in reality, that just brings your risk up to 1 percent total. so you’re still relatively unlikely to die from those causes. that’s right. now, that number, when you apply it across the population, it really is meaningful because if many, many people’s risk of dying goes up by a factor of 10, that is a lot of people dying. but on an individual level, some people might still find that number reassuring. and there’s other ways to think about it on an individual level, too, to think about risk that way. tim told me that you could also look at risk in terms of trying to figure out the amount of time that, for example, drinking a certain number of drinks might shave off your life on average. like, what does drinking do to life expectancy? ok, that seems like a great question. and i, for one, really want to know the answer. basically, he told me that for people who have about two drinks a week, they’re going to lose, on average, less than one week of their life. for people who have around seven drinks a week, they’re going to shave maybe 2 and 1/2 months off the end of their life. hmm. now, when you get to five drinks a day, now you’re talking about upwards of two years of lost life. all these things, to be sure, are averages. so, it’s not like you can take that information and go to the bank. you could be the person who loses many more years of life or weeks of life or months of life. but this is the average. right. and i mean, if you’re someone who’s a more casual drinker, you’re drinking, ok, seven drinks a week. that’s a glass of wine every night with dinner, maybe. we’re talking about 2 and 1/2 months of life shaved off here. i’m wondering, sue, what you thought when you heard that. i was like, great. i was extremely relieved. i thought, i’m not going to   like, no. i’m just not going to worry about this. if i want to reach for a glass of wine, i’m going to. it’s just not something i need to think about in this kind of way. i mean, that’s kind of what i was thinking, too. yeah, i understand that. i mean, again, when you take those weeks and you apply them across a population that is many, many, many, many, many years of lost life across the population. but for you individually, maybe it’s not that bad. and that’s how i started to think about it until i started to really dig into my own relationship to alcohol. what were the benefits of it for me? what were my own other risks? risk is very individual, and i myself know already that i am at increased risk for breast cancer because of my family history. so, given that i already have an elevated risk of breast cancer and we know that alcohol consumption is linked to increased risks of breast cancer, do i want to compound whatever risk i already have that’s higher than i would like it to be? that actually doesn’t make that much sense to me personally. and obviously, alcohol is very addictive. you never know if you’re going to become the person who suffers from an alcohol addiction. and obviously, that is something that ruins many people’s lives. right, so you’re saying that, obviously, alcohol is not the only risk that we have. and we kind of have to look at it in context of all the other health risks we have as individuals, which might really complicate things. it’s not just those, say, 2 and 1/2 months off your life that we’re talking about here. yeah, i do think it’s complicated. and it gets even more complicated if you go beyond thinking about the risks of alcohol to yourself, but if you think about it in terms of the collective harms. so we know that alcohol consumption is highly associated with all kinds of social ills, with sexual assault, domestic violence, dangerous driving. obviously, like, alcohol, is present in a shockingly high percentage of these kinds of incidents. and even when you have not that much alcohol   like, let’s say you have a drink or two   you are more likely to make that dangerous left turn or not to notice that the baby has a marble in her mouth. so it’s not just the risk that you pose to yourself, but also, what is the increased risk of your harming someone else? at this point, it sounds like you’re trending pretty negatively toward drinking. i mean, i can go there all the way. i clearly have thought through what those negative outcomes are from drinking. but i also, as i’ve been reporting this piece, have really had a lot of conversations with people about how alcohol is not just a negative cultural force. just a couple of nights ago, i was talking to some friends who are both doctors. and they were really encouraging me to remember the friendships that have come over a few drinks. i mean, certainly, many, many romances may never have gotten off the ground without a drink or two. one friend of mine pointed out to me that alcohol actually has played a pretty big role in lots of historic international diplomacy. and that’s because it helps people lower their inhibitions. and that can be bad, but can also mean leaving behind some of your worries. or it can make you more open to something new or to connecting. there’s the drink after work. i remember, in my 20s, being in a work environment that was we’re not in a great place. there wasn’t a lot of bonding going on. a lot of people were new and young. and one night, we all went out, and everybody had a drink together. and obviously, things can go very wrong in those kinds of situations, but in this case, i actually do think it kind of changed the office dynamic for the better going forward. right, i mean, there’s the long summer days by the pool, the long holiday weekends with friends, the karaoke. yeah, i think that is exactly right. i mean, also, for some people, really fine wine   i mean, this is not me. i can’t tell the difference among any of them. but really fine wine represents, for some people, the height of what human civilization can produce. there’s just this absolute appreciation for the taste of wine. so, sue, you’ve gone on this pretty big journey here. it sounds like you have weighed your individual risks against these collective harms. you’ve looked at the idea that alcohol has some benefits in your life. where does all of this land for you? i didn’t feel like, ok, i must abstain altogether forever, but i did end up resolving to drink less. i’m a drink a night kind of person, and i definitely resolved to cut back. hmm. and yet i am surprised to find it is hard to cut down on my drinking. for example, not too long ago, i ended up at a party, and it was like a really hot night. and i had resolved not to drink because i’d had a drink the night prior. but when i got there, i actually could not find a non alcoholic beverage. and it’s a million degrees out. there’s only wine and mixed drinks available. like, what are you going to do? i had a drink. and at the same time, i think part of why i didn’t resist even further was that it was a party, and i was a little bit nervous. and i felt a little bit better with that drink in my hand. yeah, your plan to drink less in that moment sounds like it ran squarely up against both practical realities and social conditioning, centuries of social conditioning around how we interact with each other. yeah, and i started to see drinking as almost something that was quite   when people reach for a drink at a party, for example, it’s a sign that they are looking to connect. it’s that they’re looking to let down their guard, that they’re looking to enjoy the socializing that’s happening there. and when people reach for a drink, that’s another way of saying, like, i want to be in this moment with you and turn off the part of my brain that is worrying or self conscious. and then you think, ok, but wouldn’t it also be great if we could all somehow be comfortable enough in our skins to be able to have those moments to let down our guards, to be our most relaxed selves without a drink? yeah. it’s like, on the one hand, seeing someone reach for a drink, it kind of points to their vulnerability, their desire to connect in that moment. and on the other hand, should we all just be investing more in therapy maybe than drinking? [chuckles]: it’s probably better for our health, for sure. [music playing] i think what’s really eye opening, sue, about your reporting here is that it gives us an answer to this question that’s been asked and unanswered for so long that’s been nagging at us. and that’s, what is the price of the pleasure that alcohol gives so many of us? and do we want to pay it? well, for one thing, i think i’ve come to understand that this really is a pretty personal decision that people have to make kind of for themselves, almost on the order of like, how do people think about money or saving or spending, you know? and everybody also has different tolerance for risk. so, i mean, for me personally, i started out this reporting partly because i just had this general vague, bad sense whenever i was reaching for a glass of wine. but now i feel, in a funny way, a little bit more in control of that choice. [music playing] thank you so much, sue. oh, my pleasure. thanks for having me on the show. [music playing] we’ll be right back. here’s what else you should know today. president biden spoke to a group of democratic governors on wednesday, telling them he was staying in the race, but needed to get more sleep, work fewer hours, and avoid events after 8:00 pm. the meeting with the governors was intended to reassure more than two dozen of biden’s most important allies that he is still in command of his job and capable of mounting a strong campaign against trump. several governors were disappointed there wasn’t more discussion about whether biden should continue in the race, even though none of them directly told biden that he should drop out. and britain’s labour party was projected to win a landslide victory in the uk election on thursday, ousting the conservative party that has been in power for the last 14 years. if projections are correct, it would be the worst defeat for the tory party in its nearly 200 year history. many voters said they were fed up with the government because of the struggling economy, increasing dysfunction within the public health care system, and a rise in immigration. keir starmer, who is set to become the new prime minister, has promised a fiscally prudent, center left government, quote, “in the service of working people.” today’s episode was produced by stella tan and diana nguyen, with help from alex stern. it was edited by michael benoist, with help from lisa chow. contains original music by diane wong, pat mccusker, marion lozano, and was engineered by chris wood. special thanks to alice callahan. our theme music is by jim brunberg and ben landsverk of wonderly. [music playing] that’s it for “the daily.” i’m natalie kitroeff. see you on monday. transcript this transcript was created using speech recognition software. while it has been reviewed by human transcribers, it may contain errors. please review the episode audio before quoting from this transcript and email transcripts@nytimes.com with any questions. from “the new york times,” i’m natalie kitroeff and this is “the daily.” [music playing] midway through one of the booziest holiday weekends of the year, we re examine our love/hate relationship with alcohol. today, my colleague susan dominus on how bad, or not, drinking is for you. it’s friday, july 5th. so you and i are both here to discuss our relationship to alcohol, a topic that i think endlessly fascinates us, because for the past several decades, we’ve gotten conflicting guidance on the benefits and risks of drinking. and you, sue, you decided to finally get to the bottom of it. thank you. [laughs]: well, i tried. i mean, i think a lot of people do have a lot of confusion. i know that i feel that way. my friends and i are talking about it all the time. and i was very happy to have the opportunity to actually look at it journalistically. i’m curious what it was that made you head down this journalistic path. about a year ago   i have a dear friend, and i kept saying to her, hey, let’s get together for a drink. how’s next tuesday? and she was a little bit evasive. and finally we ended up going for a walk, at which point, it became clear that she was not avoiding me, but she was avoiding going for a drink. and she was somebody who didn’t drink a ton. she was like a once a   maybe a drink with dinner every night person. and she was trying to go to zero. she was doing this because she had been hearing reports, podcasts, headlines, that alcohol was much more dangerous than previously understood. and she just kind of got freaked out, to be honest, and stopped pretty much altogether. yeah, i saw those same headlines, some of them in our newspaper. they were hard to miss, even if you were trying to miss them. yeah, i think that’s true. and i guess i just thought, is it so bad that you need to stop drinking altogether? is it really even that bad that you need to stop having your one drink a night, if that brings you joy and relaxation at the end of a stressful work day? i just felt like it was sort of bizarre that we didn’t have an answer to that question. right. and i realized that it was not a question i could answer just by looking at the news right now. i think some of the confusion that we have actually starts because of research that was being published in the ‘90s. and back then, the news was, alcohol might actually be good for you. there has been for years the belief by doctors in many countries that alcohol, in particular red wine, reduces the risk of heart disease. now it’s been all but confirmed. there was all this research that suggested that drinking red wine had a protective effect on heart health. right, i remember that. yeah, there was famously an episode of “60 minutes”  the wine has a flushing effect. it removes platelets from the artery wall.   in which morley safer holds up a glass of red wine and says that researchers are finding that this is actually good for your health. so the answer to the riddle may lie in this inviting glass. it was news that was really convenient for people. they really wanted to hear that good news. i suppose that drinking red wine is supposed to be good for me, and so i don’t feel so bad if i have more than one glass. oh, i believe it. that’s why i drink it. i’m 61 years old. [chuckles] and wine sales, red wine sales in the us apparently went up something like 40 percent over the course   wow.   of the following year. and this is, by the way, right at the moment   i think i became a legal drinker in 1991, you know? so for my generation, this was an incredibly influential study. i actually have a friend who told me that he worried at one point that he wasn’t drinking enough red wine to get those health benefits because he wasn’t much of a drinker. and he felt guilty about it. i love that. [chuckles] [music playing] hi, sam. hello, hello. can you hear me? so while i was reporting this out, i called a researcher in canada named tim stockwell, who has studied alcohol’s effects on the body for years. and he was really excited about this research at the time. so i kind of embraced it, really. i thought, isn’t this great? we don’t have to tell a really negative story and say it’s all bad for you. tim was convinced that basically the research was clear that this was settled science, and he even chastised in a commentary published in australia’s leading medical journal people who were still denying these health benefits as sort of tin hat conspiracy theorist types. i likened people who were skeptics of the health benefits of alcohol to members of the flat earth society and to people who doubted that men had been on the moon. but clearly that’s not the end of the discussion, right? i mean, the narrative starts to change at some point. for tim, that really started to change not long after he published that commentary, when he got a call from another researcher named kaye middleton fillmore   she sounded a bit upset that nobody would fund her work on doubting the protective effects. so i heard her out.   who told him that she had a lot of doubts about this research that he thought was so sound. the idea they were sick quitters. so fillmore focused on how the data had been categorized in these studies. and she told him that they often included a category of people called abstainers, people who didn’t drink, but that this category also included a group of people who drank and stopped. and they didn’t take into account the fact that many of the people in this group likely stopped because they were ill. in fact, tim calls them the “sick quitters.” so you have this group of non drinkers that actually includes a number of former drinkers and actually, potentially, sick former drinkers. that’s exactly right. and when you include them in a data set with other non drinkers, it actually makes people who drink moderately look really healthy in comparison. and this creates the illusion that a moderate amount of alcohol is beneficial. hmm. i have to admit, the part of me was intrigued, just those intellectual curiosity. and tim was unconvinced, but was open minded enough to be curious about whether he was wrong about all of this. and the two of them actually started collaborating together. and they got totally into it. i remember spending hours and hours and hours. they ran the numbers, and they came out in 2006 with really different results. and they showed that most likely, fillmore was right. and when you did, indeed, rearrange the data so that the former drinkers were in a different category, the protective effect of moderate alcohol consumption basically disappeared. and so i kept pinching myself. have we really got this right? and to tim, this was super surprising. so, suddenly, this settled science is very unsettled. yeah. boy, did we get commentaries, and it lit a bit of a fuse. and not surprisingly, the alcohol industry is not so excited about these findings, and they push back. one very specific thing was a call for a meeting where researchers were invited, and kaye fillmore was invited. a symposium was gathered that was partly funded by an alcohol industry group. and the result of this meeting was to produce a document which basically summarized all the evidence and concluded that there were definitely benefits from drinking alcohol. and they published a summary of the events afterwards, and they concluded that, actually, moderate alcohol consumption did have beneficial effects. and kaye was mad. she felt like banging her shoe on the table in the meeting because she kept saying, no, i don’t agree. that’s wrong. so there was a lot of resistance. and we kept getting criticism. people say, you got this wrong. you should have done that. so each time, we’d go back, get more studies. so kaye fillmore, tim’s research partner, actually passed away in 2013, but tim continued on with the research into the health impact of alcohol. and in 2023, he and his colleagues published a massive, massive study   it was the most comprehensive, the largest study. i think we had close to 5 million individuals represented.   which found that not only does drinking moderately not have protective effects on your health, but in fact, it increases your risk of all caused mortality, which is to say, dying of pretty much anything   it could be a car crash, could be disease. and that’s true for women when they drink even just a little bit less than two drinks a day. and for men, that’s true at just about over three drinks a day. so the idea was that no amount of drinking is good for you. that’s the most important takeaway. and at not such high levels, you do start to see this increased risk. i mean, it kind of sounds like we’re going from alcohol in the beginning being portrayed as essentially a health food to now it being a public menace. yes, i think one can interpret it that way, and it certainly felt that way, obviously, with a lot of people when they read it. many, many cancer doctors always did disagree with the idea that alcohol could be protective, that it was always known that drinking increased your risk of breast cancer, of esophageal cancer in very real ways. but i think that was underappreciated by the public. like, lots of surveys always found that that information was not penetrating the same way that, like, “red wine is good for your heart” had penetrated. so this was now switching the public messaging pretty dramatically. right, and this time, for whatever reason, their warnings about alcohol seem to have actually landed a little harder in the public consciousness. i mean, i’m thinking about your friend, for example, about myself and a lot of people i know, who are now wondering what to do with that information. yeah, that is for sure. i was curious to hear what tim thought about all this and how he was thinking about it, how he thought we could be thinking about it. i kind of thought that tim was going to have the zeal of the convert, that having been somebody who had reassured everyone that alcohol was just fine for them in moderation, that now he was going to kind of go to the other extreme, and be very finger wagging about how bad alcohol was for you, and basically tell me that i shouldn’t drink at all. [music playing] but in fact   so do you not drink at all anymore, or is it very occasional for you? oh, i just   i’m a light drinker. i’m always astonished how i’m prepared to have 10 minutes of pleasure to feel a little rubbish for several hours the next day. and yet we all do it. i mean, and so   it was really interesting when i got into it with him and tried to talk to him about how he understood the risk. well, one of the things i believe is that we should find ways of helping people grasp the scale of the risk and how it compares with things they can get their head around. what i learned was really a much more nuanced picture. [music playing] we’ll be right back. so this new nuanced picture of drinking, it sounds potentially very appealing. tell me what it looks like. well, i’ve been thinking a lot in my reporting about how to help people understand risk in a way that is not abstract, in a way that they can grasp and apply to their lives in a meaningful way. and there are several different ways that you can think about risk. so, for example, we often talk about how a certain behavior might increase your risk of a poor health outcome by a certain percent or by a certain factor. and so, what does that look like in terms of alcohol? let’s say i drink six drinks a week, which i kind of do, versus someone who has a drink or two a week. tim told me that by having those six drinks, i’ve increased my risk of dying prematurely from some alcohol related cause by a factor of 10   wow.   compared to someone who just has a drink or two a week. now, that sounds really dramatic. like, whoa, i’m increasing my risk of dying from some alcohol related cause by 10 times. right. but even still, it turns out that if i drink those six drinks a week, the risk i was facing of dying from an alcohol related cause was still quite low. on average, that lifetime risk is like 1 percent. hmm. so for me, at this stage in my life, my risk of dying generally is pretty low, knock on wood. and so, really, any incremental added risk on top of that is going to be quite low as well. ok, if i’m getting this right, if you drink six drinks a week, you are 10 times more likely to die from any alcohol related cause than someone who drinks less, which sounds bad, but in reality, that just brings your risk up to 1 percent total. so you’re still relatively unlikely to die from those causes. that’s right. now, that number, when you apply it across the population, it really is meaningful because if many, many people’s risk of dying goes up by a factor of 10, that is a lot of people dying. but on an individual level, some people might still find that number reassuring. and there’s other ways to think about it on an individual level, too, to think about risk that way. tim told me that you could also look at risk in terms of trying to figure out the amount of time that, for example, drinking a certain number of drinks might shave off your life on average. like, what does drinking do to life expectancy? ok, that seems like a great question. and i, for one, really want to know the answer. basically, he told me that for people who have about two drinks a week, they’re going to lose, on average, less than one week of their life. for people who have around seven drinks a week, they’re going to shave maybe 2 and 1/2 months off the end of their life. hmm. now, when you get to five drinks a day, now you’re talking about upwards of two years of lost life. all these things, to be sure, are averages. so, it’s not like you can take that information and go to the bank. you could be the person who loses many more years of life or weeks of life or months of life. but this is the average. right. and i mean, if you’re someone who’s a more casual drinker, you’re drinking, ok, seven drinks a week. that’s a glass of wine every night with dinner, maybe. we’re talking about 2 and 1/2 months of life shaved off here. i’m wondering, sue, what you thought when you heard that. i was like, great. i was extremely relieved. i thought, i’m not going to   like, no. i’m just not going to worry about this. if i want to reach for a glass of wine, i’m going to. it’s just not something i need to think about in this kind of way. i mean, that’s kind of what i was thinking, too. yeah, i understand that. i mean, again, when you take those weeks and you apply them across a population that is many, many, many, many, many years of lost life across the population. but for you individually, maybe it’s not that bad. and that’s how i started to think about it until i started to really dig into my own relationship to alcohol. what were the benefits of it for me? what were my own other risks? risk is very individual, and i myself know already that i am at increased risk for breast cancer because of my family history. so, given that i already have an elevated risk of breast cancer and we know that alcohol consumption is linked to increased risks of breast cancer, do i want to compound whatever risk i already have that’s higher than i would like it to be? that actually doesn’t make that much sense to me personally. and obviously, alcohol is very addictive. you never know if you’re going to become the person who suffers from an alcohol addiction. and obviously, that is something that ruins many people’s lives. right, so you’re saying that, obviously, alcohol is not the only risk that we have. and we kind of have to look at it in context of all the other health risks we have as individuals, which might really complicate things. it’s not just those, say, 2 and 1/2 months off your life that we’re talking about here. yeah, i do think it’s complicated. and it gets even more complicated if you go beyond thinking about the risks of alcohol to yourself, but if you think about it in terms of the collective harms. so we know that alcohol consumption is highly associated with all kinds of social ills, with sexual assault, domestic violence, dangerous driving. obviously, like, alcohol, is present in a shockingly high percentage of these kinds of incidents. and even when you have not that much alcohol   like, let’s say you have a drink or two   you are more likely to make that dangerous left turn or not to notice that the baby has a marble in her mouth. so it’s not just the risk that you pose to yourself, but also, what is the increased risk of your harming someone else? at this point, it sounds like you’re trending pretty negatively toward drinking. i mean, i can go there all the way. i clearly have thought through what those negative outcomes are from drinking. but i also, as i’ve been reporting this piece, have really had a lot of conversations with people about how alcohol is not just a negative cultural force. just a couple of nights ago, i was talking to some friends who are both doctors. and they were really encouraging me to remember the friendships that have come over a few drinks. i mean, certainly, many, many romances may never have gotten off the ground without a drink or two. one friend of mine pointed out to me that alcohol actually has played a pretty big role in lots of historic international diplomacy. and that’s because it helps people lower their inhibitions. and that can be bad, but can also mean leaving behind some of your worries. or it can make you more open to something new or to connecting. there’s the drink after work. i remember, in my 20s, being in a work environment that was we’re not in a great place. there wasn’t a lot of bonding going on. a lot of people were new and young. and one night, we all went out, and everybody had a drink together. and obviously, things can go very wrong in those kinds of situations, but in this case, i actually do think it kind of changed the office dynamic for the better going forward. right, i mean, there’s the long summer days by the pool, the long holiday weekends with friends, the karaoke. yeah, i think that is exactly right. i mean, also, for some people, really fine wine   i mean, this is not me. i can’t tell the difference among any of them. but really fine wine represents, for some people, the height of what human civilization can produce. there’s just this absolute appreciation for the taste of wine. so, sue, you’ve gone on this pretty big journey here. it sounds like you have weighed your individual risks against these collective harms. you’ve looked at the idea that alcohol has some benefits in your life. where does all of this land for you? i didn’t feel like, ok, i must abstain altogether forever, but i did end up resolving to drink less. i’m a drink a night kind of person, and i definitely resolved to cut back. hmm. and yet i am surprised to find it is hard to cut down on my drinking. for example, not too long ago, i ended up at a party, and it was like a really hot night. and i had resolved not to drink because i’d had a drink the night prior. but when i got there, i actually could not find a non alcoholic beverage. and it’s a million degrees out. there’s only wine and mixed drinks available. like, what are you going to do? i had a drink. and at the same time, i think part of why i didn’t resist even further was that it was a party, and i was a little bit nervous. and i felt a little bit better with that drink in my hand. yeah, your plan to drink less in that moment sounds like it ran squarely up against both practical realities and social conditioning, centuries of social conditioning around how we interact with each other. yeah, and i started to see drinking as almost something that was quite   when people reach for a drink at a party, for example, it’s a sign that they are looking to connect. it’s that they’re looking to let down their guard, that they’re looking to enjoy the socializing that’s happening there. and when people reach for a drink, that’s another way of saying, like, i want to be in this moment with you and turn off the part of my brain that is worrying or self conscious. and then you think, ok, but wouldn’t it also be great if we could all somehow be comfortable enough in our skins to be able to have those moments to let down our guards, to be our most relaxed selves without a drink? yeah. it’s like, on the one hand, seeing someone reach for a drink, it kind of points to their vulnerability, their desire to connect in that moment. and on the other hand, should we all just be investing more in therapy maybe than drinking? [chuckles]: it’s probably better for our health, for sure. [music playing] i think what’s really eye opening, sue, about your reporting here is that it gives us an answer to this question that’s been asked and unanswered for so long that’s been nagging at us. and that’s, what is the price of the pleasure that alcohol gives so many of us? and do we want to pay it? well, for one thing, i think i’ve come to understand that this really is a pretty personal decision that people have to make kind of for themselves, almost on the order of like, how do people think about money or saving or spending, you know? and everybody also has different tolerance for risk. so, i mean, for me personally, i started out this reporting partly because i just had this general vague, bad sense whenever i was reaching for a glass of wine. but now i feel, in a funny way, a little bit more in control of that choice. [music playing] thank you so much, sue. oh, my pleasure. thanks for having me on the show. [music playing] we’ll be right back. here’s what else you should know today. president biden spoke to a group of democratic governors on wednesday, telling them he was staying in the race, but needed to get more sleep, work fewer hours, and avoid events after 8:00 pm. the meeting with the governors was intended to reassure more than two dozen of biden’s most important allies that he is still in command of his job and capable of mounting a strong campaign against trump. several governors were disappointed there wasn’t more discussion about whether biden should continue in the race, even though none of them directly told biden that he should drop out. and britain’s labour party was projected to win a landslide victory in the uk election on thursday, ousting the conservative party that has been in power for the last 14 years. if projections are correct, it would be the worst defeat for the tory party in its nearly 200 year history. many voters said they were fed up with the government because of the struggling economy, increasing dysfunction within the public health care system, and a rise in immigration. keir starmer, who is set to become the new prime minister, has promised a fiscally prudent, center left government, quote, “in the service of working people.” today’s episode was produced by stella tan and diana nguyen, with help from alex stern. it was edited by michael benoist, with help from lisa chow. contains original music by diane wong, pat mccusker, marion lozano, and was engineered by chris wood. special thanks to alice callahan. our theme music is by jim brunberg and ben landsverk of wonderly. [music playing] that’s it for “the daily.” i’m natalie kitroeff. see you on monday. hosted by natalie kitroeff featuring susan dominus produced by stella tan and diana nguyen with alex stern edited by michael benoist and lisa chow original music by diane wongpat mccuskermarion lozanocorey schreppel and dan powell engineered by chris wood midway through one of the booziest holiday weekends of the year, we re examine our love hate relationship with alcohol. susan dominus, a staff writer for the new york times magazine, gets to the bottom of the conflicting guidance on the benefits and risks of drinking. susan dominus, a staff writer for the new york times magazine. research has piled up debunking the idea that moderate drinking has any health benefits. there are a lot of ways to listen to the daily. here’s how. we aim to make transcripts available the next workday after an episode’s publication. you can find them at the top of the page. special thanks to alice callahan. the daily is made by rachel quester, lynsea garrison, clare toeniskoetter, paige cowett, michael simon johnson, brad fisher, chris wood, jessica cheung, stella tan, alexandra leigh young, lisa chow, eric krupke, marc georges, luke vander ploeg, m.j. davis lin, dan powell, sydney harper, mike benoist, liz o. baylen, asthaa chaturvedi, rachelle bonja, diana nguyen, marion lozano, corey schreppel, rob szypko, elisheba ittoop, mooj zadie, patricia willens, rowan niemisto, jody becker, rikki novetsky, john ketchum, nina feldman, will reid, carlos prieto, ben calhoun, susan lee, lexie diao, mary wilson, alex stern, sophia lanman, shannon lin, diane wong, devon taylor, alyssa moxley, summer thomad, olivia natt, daniel ramirez and brendan klinkenberg. our theme music is by jim brunberg and ben landsverk of wonderly. special thanks to sam dolnick, paula szuchman, lisa tobin, larissa anderson, julia simon, sofia milan, mahima chablani, elizabeth davis moorer, jeffrey miranda, maddy masiello, isabella anderson, nina lassam and nick pitman. natalie kitroeff is the mexico city bureau chief for the times, leading coverage of mexico, central america and the caribbean. more about natalie kitroeff susan dominus is a staff writer for the new york times magazine. in 2018, she was part of a team that reported on workplace sexual harassment issues and won a pulitzer prize for public service. more about susan dominus

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alcohol is riskier than previously thought, but weighing the trade offs of health risks can be deeply personal. credit...photo illustration by ricardo tomás supported by by susan dominus susan dominus is a staff writer for the magazine. about a year ago, a friend of mine started evading my invitations to grab a drink. it was only when we caught up for a walk that she explained she wasn’t putting me off for any personal reason   it was just that she had stopped drinking. she wasn’t a heavy drinker   she had a glass of wine with dinner, the occasional aperol spritz   but she’d been hearing on podcasts and reading in the news that even a small amount of alcohol was much worse for her health than had previously been understood. my friend was picking up on a swing in the public health messaging around alcohol. for many years, she might have felt that she was making a healthy choice in having a glass of wine or a beer with dinner. right around the time when she came of legal age to drink, the early 1990s, some prominent researchers were promoting, and the media helped popularize, the idea that moderate drinking   for women, a drink a night; for men, two   was linked to greater longevity. the cause of that association was not clear, but red wine, researchers theorized, might have anti inflammatory properties that extended life and protected cardiovascular health. major health organizations and some doctors always warned that alcohol consumption was linked to higher cancer risk, but the dominant message moderate drinkers heard was one of not just reassurance but encouragement. more recently, though, research has piled up debunking the idea that moderate drinking is good for you. last year, a major meta analysis that re examined 107 studies over 40 years came to the conclusion that no amount of alcohol improves health; and in 2022, a well designed study found that consuming even a small amount brought some risk to heart health. that same year, nature published research stating that consuming as little as one or two drinks a day (even less for women) was associated with shrinkage in the brain   a phenomenon normally associated with aging. drinking increased during the pandemic, which may be why news of any kind about alcohol seems to have found a receptive audience in recent years. in 2022, an episode of the podcast “huberman lab” that was devoted to elaborating alcohol’s various risks to body and brain was one of the show’s most popular of that year. nonalcoholic spirits have gained such traction that they’ve started forming the basis for entire nightlife guides; and more people are now reporting that they consume cannabis than alcohol on a daily basis. some governments are responding to the new research by overhauling their messaging. last year, ireland became the first country to pass legislation requiring a cancer warning on all alcohol products sold there, similar to those found on cigarettes: “there is a direct link between alcohol and fatal cancers,” the language will read. and in canada, a government funded organization recently proposed revised alcohol guidelines, announcing, “we now know that even a small amount of alcohol can be damaging to health.” the proposed guidelines characterize one to two drinks a week as carrying “low risk” and three to six drinks as carrying “moderate risk.”