[' ', 'Cross', 'of', 'Dr.', 'Townsend', '10/2.1/97', '4:15', 'p.m,', 'to', '5:20', 'p.m,', ' ', 'Karbiwyok', 'vs.', 'R.', 'J.', 'Reynolds', '10/21/97', '+', '4:15.', 'p.m.', 'to', '5:20', 'p.m.', '/', "don't", 'talk', 'about', 'content.', 'MR', 'GROSSMAN:', 'All', 'right.', 'Your', 'Honor,', 'we', 'filed', 'a', 'motion', 'in', 'limine', 'before', 'this', 'lawsuit,', 'I', 'understood', 'that', 'there', 'was', 'a', '-', 'first', 'of', 'all,', '3', 'ruling', 'that', 'counsel', 'would', 'not', 'be', 'raising', 'this', '‘without', 'making', '8', 'proffer', 'first,', '‘THE', 'COURT:', 'That', 'was', 'mny', 'recollection', 'also,', 'I', 'thought,', 'but...', 'MR', 'WILNER:', 'I', "haven't", 'asked', 'bim', 'a', 'word', 'about', 'it,', 'Certainly', "haven't", 'said', 'anything', "that's", 'confidential,', 'THE', 'COURT:', 'Where', 'is', 'this', 'going,', 'Mr.', 'Wilner?', 'MR.', 'WILNER:', 'One', 'page,', 'If', 'I', 'may.', '(Tenders', 'document.)', 'MR', 'WILNER:', 'I', "don't", 'buy', "there's", 'anything', 'confidential', 'about', 'it,', 'but', 'in', 'any', 'case,', "it's", 'got', 'the', 'chart', 'of', 'who', 'is', 'who', 'in', 'Reynolds,', 'something', 'that', "they've", 'spent', '2', 'lot', 'of', 'time', 'on.', 'MR.', 'GROSSMAN:', 'Your', 'Honor,', 'there', 'are', 'other', 'means,', 'obviously,', 'for', 'establishing', 'the', 'identity', 'of', 'corporate', '~', 'of', 'officers', 'and', 'employees', 'than', 'a', 'lawyer/client', 'privileged', 'report', 'prepared', 'by', 'a', 'consultant', 'for', 'litigation.', 'This', 'is', 'not', 'some', 'secret', 'question,', 'MR.', 'WILNER:', 'Well,', 'we', 'disagree', 'that', "there's", 'Multi-Page™', 'ROUGH', 'DRAFT.', ' ', 'Page', '3100', 'ROUGH', 'DRAFT', 'Karbiwyak', 'vs.', 'R.', 'J,', 'Reynolds', 'ROUGH', 'DRAFT', '10/21/97', '+', '4:15', 'p.m.', 'to', '5:20', 'p.m.', '1', 'conteats', 'of', 'that', 'document', 'are', '~', 'while', 'they', 'may', '2', 'be', 'relevant', 'and', 'pertinent,', 'I', 'think', "you've", '3', '_probebly', 'covered', 'those', 'basis', 'with', 'the', 'witness', '4', 'about', 'six', 'times,', 'and', "I'm", 'not', 'prepared', 'to', 'abrogate', '5', '=', "I'm", 'not', 'prepared', 'to', 'directly', 'nule', 'on', 'the', '6', 'question', 'of', 'whether', 'or', 'not', 'it’s', 'attorney/client', '7', '~~', 'without', '~', "I'm", 'not', 'making', 'any', 'sense,', 'am', 'J?', '-', '-', '8', "I'm", 'not', 'prepered', 'to', 'reach', 'the', 'question', 'of', '9', '—', 'whether', 'or', 'not', 'it’s', 'protected,', 'nor', 'address', '10', 'whether', 'or', 'not', 'J', 'will', 'have', 'violated', 'that', '11', 'protection', 'if', 'it', 'is', 'protected', 'by', 'allowing', 'Mr.', '12', 'Wilner', 'to', 'wee', 'it.', "T'm", 'going', 'to', 'sustain', 'the', '13', 'objection.', '14', 'MR.', 'WILNER:', 'Your', 'Honor,', "I'll", 'be', 'happy', 'to', '15', 'goon.', 'I', 'understand', "you've", 'sustained', 'the', '16', 'objection.', "We're", 'ready', 'to', 'go.', '17', 'THE', 'COURT:', 'All', 'right.', 'Bring', 'Dr.', 'Townsend', '18', 'back', 'in', 'and', 'the', 'jury', 'back', 'in,', 'please.', '19', '(The', 'following', 'proceedings', 'were', 'beld', 'in', '20', 'open', 'court,', 'in', 'the', 'presence', 'of', 'the', 'jury:)', '21', 'THE', 'COURT:', 'Be', 'seated', 'ladies', 'and', 'gentlemen.', '22', 'Mr,', 'Wilner.', '23', 'MR.', 'WILNER:', 'May', 'it', 'please', 'the', 'Court,', '24', 'BY', 'MR', 'WILNER:', '25', 'Q', 'Dr.', 'Townscad,', 'all', 'sight,', 'I', "didn't", 'want', 'to', '.', 'Page', '3099', '~', 'Page', '3101', 'ROUGH', 'DRAFT', 'Karbiwynk', 'vs.', 'R.', 'J.', 'Reynolds', 'ROUGH', 'DRAFT', '.', '10/21/97', '-', '4:15', 'p.m.', 'to', '5:20', 'p.m.', 'anything', 'secret', 'about', 'that', 'document.', 'For', 'one', 'thing', 'attorney/client', 'privilege', 'does', 'not', 'extend', 'to', 'outside', 'reports', 'by', 'experts', 'that', 'are', 'given', 'to', 'the', 'attorney,', 'but', 'I', "don't", 'even', 'care,', 'I', 'mean,', 'as', 'far', 'as', 'establishing', 'that.', 'If', 'counsel', 'wants', 'to', 'stipulate', 'to', 'the', 'validity', 'of', 'thet', 'page,', "I'll", 'be', 'happy', 'to', 'just', 'ask', 'him', 'about', 'the', 'page.', 'I', "don't", 'care', 'where', 'it', 'camo', 'from.', 'If', 'be', 'disputes', 'it', 'and', 'says,', 'Wow,', 'that’s', 'not', 'right,', 'thea', '--', 'I', 'mean,', 'J', 'got', 'to', 'establish', 'where', "it's", 'from.', 'MR.', 'GROSSMAN:', "f'm", 'not', 'familiar', 'with', 'the', 'page', 'to', 'begin', 'with,', 'and', 'secondly,', 'I', "can't", 'stipulate', 'to', 'its', 'accuracy', 'because', 'I', "don't", 'know', 'the', 'facts,', 'but', 'I', 'know', 'that', 'there', 'are', 'other', 'means', 'of', 'obtaining', 'those', 'facts,', 'MR.', 'WILNER:', "[don't", 'iknow', 'what', 'he', 'means,', 'Your', 'Honor.', 'He', 'may', 'have', 'other', 'means,', 'but', 'these', 'arc', 'the', 'means', 'thal', 'are', 'at', 'our', 'disposal.', 'MR', 'GROSSMAN:', 'Woody,', 'have', 'you', 'ever', 'asked', 'for', '&', 'corporate', 'chart', 'of', 'Reynolds', 'at', 'that', 'period', 'of', 'time?', 'MR.', 'WILNER:', "Don't", 'debate', 'counsel.', 'THE', 'COURT:', 'All', 'right.', 'Mr.', 'Wilner,', "I'm", 'going', 'to', 'sustain', 'the', 'objection.', 'I', 'think', 'that', 'the', '1', 'belabor', 'Dr.', 'Teague', 'anyway,', 'but', "let's", 'just', 'turn', 'briefly', '2', 'to', 'Document', 'Number', '1', 'in', 'the', 'C', 'series,', 'and', 'this', 'is', 'Dr.', '3', "Teague's", 'survey', 'of', 'the', 'cancer', 'research,', 'right?', '4', 'A', 'Says', 'on', 'the', 'front', 'page,', 'Survey', 'of', 'Cancer', '35', 'Rescarch', 'with', 'Emphasis', 'Upon', 'Possible', 'Carcinogens', 'from', '6', 'Tobscco.', '7', '~~', 'Q', 'Right.', 'Now,', 'as', 'far', 'as', 'you', 'know,', 'this', 'is', 'the', '8', 'first', 'time', 'there', 'was', 'internal', 'work', 'at', 'Reynolds', 'on', '9', 'cancer?', ':', '10°', 'A.', "That's", 'not', 'my', 'take', 'on', 'this', 'document', 'at', 'all,', '11', 'This', 'is', 'an', 'overall', 'survey', 'of', 'the', 'existing', 'literature,', '42', 'particularly', 'literature', 'on', 'cancer,', 'He', 'says', 'on', 'page', '2', '13', 'as', 'the', 'object', 'of', 'this', 'report,', 'The', 'object', 'is', 'to', 'give', 'a', '14', 'broad', 'general', 'survey', 'of', 'cancer', 'research', 'with', 'emphasis', '15', 'on', 'studies', 'actually', 'or', 'potentially', 'related', 'to', '16', 'carcinogens', 'from', 'tobaces.', 'Pertinent', 'references', 'are', '17', 'cited,', 'where', 'possible', 'these', 'are', 'review', 'articles', 'with', '48', 'comprehensive', 'coverage', 'and', 'bibliography.', '19', 'At', 'the', 'cad', 'he', 'cites', '78', 'references', 'which', 'he', '20', 'summarizes', 'in', 'this', 'document,', 'and', "they're", 'all', 'from', '21', 'outside', 'of', 'Reynolds.', 'He', 'does', 'say', 'at', 'the', 'end', 'that', 'he', '22', 'did', 'this', 'research', 'in', 'the', 'literature', 'at', 'the', 'Bowman', 'Gray', '23', 'School', 'of', 'Medicine,', 'which', 'happens', 'to', 'be', 'at', '24', 'Winston-Salem,', '25°', 'Q', 'Dr.', 'Townsend,', 'all', 'I', 'asked', 'you', 'was:', 'Is', 'this', ' ', 'Page', '3098', '-', 'Page', '3101', ' ', 'TEL?', 'sé6ozs']