CentralNotice/Request/WikiGap 2018 Russia

From Meta, a Wikimedia project coordination wiki
Jump to navigation Jump to search

WikiGap 2018 Russia[edit]

Central Notice Settings

What is the campaign duration?
  • 8th March 2018 → 8th April 2018
Which projects will you be targeting?
  • Wikipedia
What languages will you be targeting?
  • en, ru + other languages of Russia (ady-av-az-ba-ce-crh-cv-fı-kbd-kk-koi-krc-kv-lbe-lez-mdf-mhr-mrj-myv-olo-os-pnt-sah-tt-tyv-udm-uk-vep-xal)
Do you wish to show banners to Logged In users, Anonymous Users or Both? Do you want to target users with a specific number of edits or average monthly?
  • Both Logged In users and Anonymous Users

What countries will your campaign target?

  • Russia

Banner/Campaign Diet:

  • 1 impression per week

What is the purpose of the campaign? How will you measure the success of the campaign?[edit]

Description - Public information campaign for the Russian part of the global international Internet marathon WikiGap

Metrics -

What banner(s) will you use? What will be your landing page?[edit]

Banners - Landing Page - RUS & ENG

Community notification text[edit]

This is sample notification that can be used for mass message delivery to targeted WP's forums, as described @ Usage guidelines:

Notifications[edit]

Related developments at local posts[edit]

  • azwiki - my EN-RU announcement was kindly translated into Azerbaidjani
  • fiwiki - one member surprised I am placing the notification
  • ukwiki - negative perception: calling this vandalism, general name-calling, etc.

Discussion[edit]

Prizes for one wiki only[edit]

  • As far as I see, this will cover many languages, some of them having pages in their own language (for example, Ukrainian, Bashkir or Finnish). Do you intend to localise the announcement to pages in local languages or will you just announce the Russian contest to them? — NickK (talk) 17:09, 6 March 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • NickK, thank you for the links. I added them at ==See also== sections of both English & Russian-language landing pages together with Wiki4Women by UNESCO & Wikimedia Foundation. I helped Dmitry with translating the landing page into English & also localized the announcement into my mothertongue (Tatar). Any other advice or help is welcome both with this and other scheduled WMRU banner campains. Thank you in advance.--Frhdkazan (talk) 17:54, 6 March 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
      I am not quite interested in WMRU banner campaigns, I am just surprised that you are requesting a banner for Ukrainian or Finnish Wikipedia for an international event with a link to a page in Russian (and not Ukrainian or Finnish as those are also available) Wikipedia. I would expect that readers of these wikis would expect to see a promotion of a WikiGap event in their language, or at least see a clear mention that the event you are promoting covers Russian Wikipedia only — NickK (talk) 18:17, 7 March 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
      Thank you for your question & a great idea, NickK! I would also very much welcome developing closer cooperation between WMRU & WMAZ, WMFI, WMKK & WMUA for cross-promotion of wiki-events in diversity of languages within territories falling under the responsibility of respective chapters! And we are interested to raise our population's active participation in & collaboration within the Wikimedia movement & welcome multilingualism!
      I am not aware of the international event banner for WikiGap, which, if initiated, should obviously route viewers to the International or language-specific landing page based on their location, wiki or settings.
      This particular campaign is Russia-specific (see settings). It is meant to inform Russia's residents about prize-offering contest they can take part in. The landing page clearly shows sponsor-identified conditions (writing into Russian-language Wikipedia), and any resident from Russia is by default qualified to take part in the contest.
      If our Ukrainian, Finnish or any other wiki-colleagues or third parties can and are willing to offer prizes to Russia's residents for writing into Wikipedia in any language, respective banner campaigns would be very welcome for showing within Russia. I would be personally willing to help with organizing such banner campaigns.
      FYI: We have an upcoming prize-offering contest open for any language WPs - so far only Russian-language landing page and no banner request, but they will be coming. Regards, --Frhdkazan (talk) 19:30, 7 March 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
      My point is that we should avoid confusion. For banners in wikis having their own contests it should be probably made clear that this banner is about Russian Wikipedia only, and not about their language. This is exactly because Wikipedia is multilingual and by default a user expects to see an event in their language — NickK (talk) 10:53, 8 March 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
      I see this differently: Contest is targeted towards residents of Russia, for all of whom Russian is one of their languages (it's not alien to them, same as Ukrainian is to Tatars or Russians living in Ukraine) & Wikipedia in Russian is thus one of many Wikimedia projects serving them as well. Contest landing page clearly shows prize-awarding conditions set by the Swedish Embassy to the Russian Federation & gives information about other WikiGap-related events (including in Ukrainian). I would see hiding this information from Ukrainian-language Wikipedia readers from the Russian Federation as fair only if we could offer them a similarly prized contest. Regards, --Frhdkazan (talk) 18:26, 8 March 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
      I do not say we must hide this information. Currently it is not obvious from the banner that the contest is taking place in a different wiki, and it is written only in the 10th paragraph of the landing page. My point is that it should be clear, either from the banner or from the top of the landing page that this is a Russian Wikipedia event (not Ukrainian, not Tatar, not Bashkir etc.). As an example see CentralNotice/Request/Project Tiger Writing Contest where it is immediately clear from the landing page what language it is about — NickK (talk) 20:41, 9 March 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  •  Support. The localization of the announcement should be subject to availability. It is in my opinion sensible to apply this policy to all IPs coming from Russia.--Edler von Udinium 08:23, 8 March 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Russia-related wiki-project banners in Ukraine[edit]

NickK, shall ukwiki hold this banner at all? Is there option to put it in our local discussion? Considering contemporary circumstances and Crimea annexation we'd better withhold this, unless local discussion permits it. Alex Khimich (talk) 01:28, 8 March 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Alex Khimich: It is an option, although probably it is not worth a discussion given that this covers only Ukrainian Wikipedians living in Russia, thus a minority — NickK (talk) 03:25, 8 March 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@NickK: & @Alex Khimich: I wonder if our Wikipedian colleagues from Ukraine would be interested to show «Bashkortostan 100» (1919-2019) edit-a-thon / IV етап вікі-марафону «Башкортостан 100» banner to UkWP visitors from Ukraine, not just Russia? Thank you.--Frhdkazan (talk) 15:25, 9 March 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Frhdkazan: We will already cover Bashkortostan as a part of CEE Spring which starts in just two weeks. From our experience the more banners to different contests are displayed in parallel the lower are the chances of getting good participation in them — NickK (talk) 20:41, 9 March 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Frhdkazan: Please, try to understand us as well: we have a war with your country. RU-associated banner display shall harass and abuse ukwiki readers, it can attract lots of disapprovment and vandalism as well. If you eager to link people from Ukraine in your contest, ruwiki ads shall cover it, all potential editors in your field of interest edit ruwiki also and mostly. At current idea  I oppose geopolitic here and placing any Russian-related banners in ukwiki untill we have your militaries in our country. I can't speak on behalf of majority, while still I suspect this will be an average opinion you gonna meet on ukwiki. — Alex Khimich (talk) 20:54, 9 March 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Alex Khimich: I only wish we could demonstrate that individual Wikimedians & our global brotherhood is stronger & more important than whatever ideology of respective political entities we live in. I do not see how reading and writing about other countries and their cultures might be considered harassment & abuse, but again - I might be blinded by the vision & mission of Wikimedia movement, and the ideals of human-to-human level collaboration in its projects. But I understand that in Ukraine today Russia & Russia-related topics might be be perceived as LGBT related topics are in predominantly Muslim or other traditional countries, or having many wives and subordinating individual freedoms to the interests of community in the West.--Frhdkazan (talk) 11:37, 11 March 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Central Notice admin comments[edit]
{"cc_re__cc_re__cc_by_sa_3_0": ["inks-add wb-langlinks-link\"><a href=\"https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:NewItem?site=metawiki&amp;page=CentralNotice%2FRequest%2FWikiGap+2018+Russia\" title=\"Add interlanguage links\" class=\"wbc-editpage\">Add links</a></span></div>\n\t</div>\n</nav>\n\n</div>\n\n</div>\n\n<footer id=\"footer\" class=\"mw-footer\" role=\"contentinfo\" >\n\t<ul id=\"footer-info\">\n\t<li id=\"footer-info-lastmod\"> This page was last edited on 17 November 2019, at 12:02.</li>\n\t<li id=\"footer-info-copyright\">Text is available under the <a href=\"https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/\">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License</a>;\nadditional terms may apply.\nSee <a href=\"https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Terms_of_Use\">Terms of Use</a> for details.</li>\n</ul>\n\n\t<ul id=\"footer-places\">\n\t<li id=\"footer-places-privacy\"><a href=\"https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Privacy_policy\">Privacy policy</a></li>\n\t<li id=\"footer-places-about\"><a href=\"/wiki/Meta:About\">About Meta</a></li>\n\t<li id=\"footer-places-disclaimers\"><a href=\"https://foundation.w"], "copyright__copyright__copyright": ["t be blinded by the vision & mission of Wikimedia movement, and the ideals of human-to-human level collaboration in its projects. But I understand that in Ukraine today Russia & Russia-related topics might be be perceived as LGBT related topics are in predominantly Muslim or other traditional countries, or having many wives and subordinating individual freedoms to the interests of community in the West.--Frhdkazan (talk) 11:37, 11 March 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]\n\nCentral Notice admin comments[edit]", "t be blinded by the vision & mission of Wikimedia movement, and the ideals of human-to-human level collaboration in its projects. But I understand that in Ukraine today Russia & Russia-related topics might be be perceived as LGBT related topics are in predominantly Muslim or other traditional countries, or having many wives and subordinating individual freedoms to the interests of community in the West.--Frhdkazan (talk) 11:37, 11 March 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]\n\nCentral Notice admin comments[edit]"]}