Omar
"Indeed, we do." He says, "So, what did you want to discuss?" He asks, tilting his head
Paul
**Mosul looked back at the portal, ensuring it is closed. He then looked at the door, making sure that it was shut aswell. He looked around the room, eyeing everything up, seemingly looking for something and someone in the room**
"Firstly, Ancano does not have good intentions here. I am sure you are already aware of this, but I believe they are alot more dire than what we would think. Ive seen him wandering the grounds while invisible. I have never bothered to follow him, but he is doing something. I believe I have seen him lurking around the midden quite a few times, and one can only imagine what he is doing down there. I am not asking for his removal, as I know that would be a sill political move. I suggest that we limit his movements around the campus. We create seals on some areas, or just tell him he is not allowed here otherwise he will be removed. I have not followed him yet, but I am sure that if I did I wouldnt find anything good"
**Mosul would now beging to stride around the room, inspecting the books and tables. Everything in here served a purpose, and was related to some magical topic or another. He found it mildly beautiful, although trapping**
"Secondly, we are both aware of the dangers that will be found in saarthal. It is well known that it has only been partially excavated, and much remains unmapped, full with the uknown. I am not opposing the journey, In fact I believe it will be a brilliant opportunity for the children. I merely suggest that we bring studens who are somewhat reliable. We dont want another death on the colleges hands. Also, the mysterious object of the Nords is an unknown factor, so its best that we create some kind of wards around the scholars before entry. Other than that, it sounds like another one of your good ideas"
Omar
"You have said nothing I'm not already aware of." He says frankly, "Nothing happens in the College without 2 people knowing: Me, and the Augur of Dunlain." He continues, "I have a few people picked out to go along with the students and Wizards, I myself will go, likely unseen." He states, "I do not intend to have no safeguards for this excavation, I may even hire guards."
Paul
"I'll speak with Tolfdir about possibly attending the excavation aswell. Guards are not necesary, this is meant to be a magical learning experience for them. As for the Augr, do you not think it is possible that he may be being contacted by ancano. Well I say possibly , I know he is. The augr is smart, but so is ancano sometimes. I am going to lock the midden off from tonight, and place certain magical barriers and obstacles to ensure that _no one_ is able to roam around it like its a holdiday retreat. God knows what ancano or any other student would do once they discover the atronach forge, or even that stupid little glove. Many students have already died under suspicious circumstances involved with that gauntlet "
**Mosul would begin to run his fingers along the grooves and etchings of the enchanting table, looking for what cannot be seen. He then looks back at Jo'Del and steps towards him**
"The augr is not something to be trifled with aswell. His vast knowledge poses a danger to any new students, and he sets the example of an overzealous mage who stepped to far. We dont want students running around screaming about the truth of the divines, and how the daedra are already here. "
"Im going to give up on Ancano though. He can get on with what he wants, but if he tries to enter the midden he'll have me to deal with. Toying with forces he cannto understand is never healthy **Chuckles** . I'll be reading up on Saarthal for a while aswell. This expedition should be good fun, if taken seriously."
Omar
"It's likely that Ancano spoke to the Augur, and it's likely the Augur replied, but I trust the Augur, and I trust him enough to be vague in his responses, as he always is." He says with a laugh, he then looks serious, "Don't lock the Midden, it has it's purpose. The students are already aware that it's dangerous, but it also serves as a lesson on those dangers, practicing the more dangerous fields of Magic comes with risks, even at the College. And although the Augur is an example of an overzealous mage, who are we to tell students not to seek out that sort of form? These aren't children, we can't tell them what to do with their magic, only how to do it." He states matter of factly, "And sadly we can't touch Ancano without gaining the ire of the Thalmor and the Empire." He sits, "A small contingent of guards may be necessary, if there's draugr in the deeper areas. I'd likely either ask the Jarl of Winterhold or hire mercenaries."
Paul
"You would trust a spiritual being that we do not, currently, have any direct control over. The augr is not something to be messed around with , as either we or Ancano will learn soon enough. He will never factor in the value of human life or any form of danger. Luckily he is hidden away in the strangest part of the Midden. And while the students are not children, they still do not understand or comprehend the full dangers of artifacts located down there. When I visited a over a century ago, there were still the remains of dead scholars or other people down there. The midden is something very few fully understand and should only be explored by those smart enough to overcome its temptations. We cannot allow scholars to roam around there due to the many unknown factos looming around ever corner. I would argue the augr is not the most dangerous, or powerful, thing sitting down there. As for ancanos strange interests with it, the power he could obtain out of it would be higher than most would imagine. All it takes is a stupidly placed intrigue into the area and we may have swarms of daedra appearing and god knows what else. The gauntlet located there is one of the strangest artifacts I have ever encountered, and I know that the rings once belonging to it still roam these halls." **Mosul would clearly begin to become agetated. Nothing too serious, but still not understanding of Jo'Dels ideas, thinking that the arch-mage himself may not fully understand the dangers of the Midden.**
" It is your role to guide scholars, ensure that they are able to control their magic and also make sure they do it safely. The augr's transformation is not safe, and we have no idea why he would do such a thing. We can teach them of the risks of magic by taking them to controlled enviroments, at least at the begining of their magical research. I have no issue with letting young mages explore, but withing reason Jo'Del. The forces down there do not understand compasion or reason"

"So i must insist on blocking and locking the midden until there are less threats to the college or at least until students may be trusted. We have to take some control of the area, and at least set boundaries for the winy elf. The expedition and possible future expeditions will create a better space for students to test their magic without trifling with powerful forces. A few draugr are not an issue, there are _other things_ down there that I think should be left to rest. The midden will be locked and secured, not only for the safety of the students but for the safety of the college itself."
**Mosuls face would now change to one of pondering. He would fall silent for a moment, before carrying on**
"A guided exploration of the main part of the midden would be a good idea. Show them what there is , its dangers and make sure they at least know what they will be dealing with. If the college believes they are of the correct ability and have been taught about the midden, then they may enter. But for now, it must be locked and sealed until such an idea is implemented and outside sources are dealt with. "
**A stand-off of sorts would be created now, with both facing eachother and staring. Mosul understood that the arch-mage was powerful and held a powerful position, but truly believed in what he was preaching and would not fall back and suseed**
Omar
"The Augur of Dunlain isn't a thing, it's a person. And he's not locked away in the Midden, he flows through the magical energies that make the College, he is in every mote of magical energy you see around." He says, pacing, "The students and scholars are all well aware of how dangerous the Midden is, and that the artifacts contained within are not ones to be trifled with." He laughs, low growl can be heard in it 
"The Midden has been a part of the College for a long time, it's not some magic mystery that few understand, it's a resource just like all the other sections. The students who have died down there is regrettable, yes, but locking the Midden away will only embolden them to break in further. Even if you place magic protections a crafty studen can get a scroll of Negate Magic and get in anyway, it's an excercise in futility." He states.
"The Augur is not a danger, in fact he's quite useful. I trust him enough not to do or say anything that could harm the College, he's been here longer than me, I believe, and he's proved helpful in some of my projects." He remarks, "And I doubt our Wizards would be very happy if you restricted access to the Midden, and they outrank you. Additionally the trapdoor outside isn't the only entrance. I'd wager a student who's crafty enough could easily levitate into the Midden." He says with a chuckle. 
He then looks Mosul dead in the eyes, a serious look on his face, "The Midden will stay unlocked, I understand your intentions but these precautions for unknowns are what keep us from gaining a deeper understanding in magic. Students have died from personal projects outside of the College, should we then prevent them from leaving the premises? We are a place of learning, The Midden is no more dangerous than half of the spells our students learn."