conversations: human
conversations:  Arena Tournament, Round 14:  Grek Thur  vs.  Bloatsack the Vile    
   Map 
   
   Spoiler 
  
   
   
  
   XP Award:  300 XP
   GP Award:  300 GP
  
   All combatants, please roll initiative. 
conversations: ArenaManager:
conversations: human
conversations:  Initiative  (1d20-1)[ 11 ] 
  
  Aw man!  Lets see if the 7th time is the charm.  Don't blind Bloatsack or otherwise cripple him permanently.  A nice messy death will do.
conversations: Paladin Latham:
conversations: human
conversations:  No problem Pal!
  
  One messy, first round kill, coming up😉
    init  - (1d20-6)[ -2 ] 
conversations: KCiemir:
conversations: human
conversations:  No first round kill for you this time!
  
   Bloatsack the Vile round 1: 
  
  For Refs:
   
   Spoiler 
  Bloatsack starts at Y14 and double moves to U23 with his crossbow in one hand and a grappling hook in the other.
   
  
  Stats(for refs):
   
   Spoiler 
  
    Vital Statistics: 
   HP:  10
   AC:  17, Touch: 15, FF: 12
   Saves:  Fort +1, Ref +5, Will +0
   Current Location: U23 
   
   
  
  
  your turn.
conversations: Paladin Latham:
conversations: human
conversations:  Grek Thur -2nd to act round 1
  
   
   Spoiler 
  Start mounted with spiked chain in one hand and potion of bulls strength in the other.  Ride double moving, across the bridge, to U/V 13/14. I then need to make sure I stay in the saddle:   ride  - (1d20+5)[ 21 ]  DC 15 and   ride  - (1d20+5)[ 23 ]  DC 15)  As you are allowed to take a standard action at the mid-point of a double move, when the mount is at N/M 13/14 I drink the potion.   Note: any checks I did not make are automatic successes.
  
  EDIT: I just realized how poorly worded that is.  to rephrase: I double move to U/V 13/14.  In order to do that, I need a DC 5 ride check, which I automatically succeed with my +5 bonus.  I then need two ride checks for the horse to jump the holes in the bridge.  these are DC 5, two more automatic successes.  I need a DC 15 ride check, however, to stay in the saddle.  That is what the above rolls are for.  At the midpoint, I drink a Potion of Bulls strength.
   
  
  
  End, Need a LoS check,  will edit in stats depending on rolls in spoiler/ 
  stats 
   Spoiler 
  
  AC:14
  HP:11
  Position:U/V 13/14
  Buffs: Bulls strength 1/30
  Mounted: yes
  Mount's AC:14
  Mount's HP: 22
   
conversations: KCiemir:
conversations: human
conversations:  No LoS at this time.
conversations: Qworg:
conversations: human
conversations:  Bloatsack the Vile round 2: 
  
  For Refs:
   
   Spoiler 
  Bloatsack throws the grappling hook up to S23, deliberately making it a visible throw. [use rope check [roll]1d20+11/roll] vs. dc14/roll]] and then moves to T26 hiding and moving silently
  
  Hide  (1d20+7)[ 13 ] 
  Move Silently  (1d20+7)[ 18 ] 
   
  
  Stats(for refs):
   
   Spoiler 
  
    Vital Statistics: 
   HP:  10
   AC:  17, Touch: 15, FF: 12
   Saves:  Fort +1, Ref +5, Will +0
   Current Location: T26 
   
   
conversations: Paladin Latham:
conversations: human
conversations:  woops.  For Refs:
   
   Spoiler 
   Use Rope  (1d20+11)[ 20 ] 
   
  
  
  It your turn, you might need a LoS check.
conversations: Paladin Latham:
conversations: human
conversations:  Grek:
   
   Spoiler 
  You see a grappling hook sail over the cliffs towards S23, with a rope attached
   
conversations: Qworg:
conversations: human
conversations:  Spoiler 
   move to W/X 15/16, and will continue my move based on if (and where) I see him
   
  
  
  NOT done
conversations: KCiemir:
conversations: human
conversations:  for Grek
   
   Spoiler 
  You don'e see your opponent yet although you do see the hook and rope abandoned and hanging onto S23.
   
conversations: Bigmac:
conversations: human
conversations:  Sorry, no disappeared, still waiting on a LOS check.  I posted at least twice in the waiting room, will post again... 
  Never mind, didn't see bigmac's post😳
conversations: KCiemir:
conversations: human
conversations:  Spoiler 
   Ah well, time to go to the last place he could be... Move to W/X 23/24 and need another LoS check
   
  
  
  STILL not done
conversations: KCiemir:
conversations: human
conversations:  If Bloatsack had a peg leg and an accordian he'd be doing a wicked shanty while he waited.
conversations: Paladin Latham:
conversations: human
conversations:  Ref Terran  
  
  @KCiemir
   
   Spoiler 
  Need a Spot check
   
  
  
  @PL
   
   Spoiler 
  You see him move into W/X 23/24
   
conversations: theterran:
conversations: human
conversations:  For Theterran or other refs:
   
   Spoiler 
    spot  - (1d20-1)[ 11 ] 
   
conversations: KCiemir:
conversations: human
conversations:  So am I up?  Such secrecy, SCANDAL!
conversations: Paladin Latham:
conversations: human
conversations:  😩 No, its just people aren't on a whole lot this time of year...  when they are, they have their own matches, not worrying☹️  about this one...
conversations: KCiemir:
conversations: human
conversations:  Ref Morbius  
  
  
  KCiemir
   
   Spoiler 
  You see nothing
   
  
  
  Still KCiemir's turn
conversations: Morbius:
conversations: human
conversations:  ugh.
   
   Spoiler 
  Move to W/X 12/13
   
  
  
  Done
  
  stats 
   Spoiler 
  AC:14
  HP:11
  Position:W/X 12/13
  Buffs: Bulls strength 2/30
  Mounted: yes
  Mount's AC:14
  Mount's HP: 22
   
conversations: KCiemir:
conversations: human
conversations:  Ref Morbius  
  
  KCiemir
   
   Spoiler 
  No LoS
   
  
  
  PL
   
   Spoiler 
  You see him move into W/X 12/13
   
  
  
  
  To other refs
   
   Spoiler 
   And its because of reactions like this that we should avoid asking the players to make spot checks, we should enfroce them to auto roll one each round or roll it ourselves , nothing screams more " There is a halfling in the bushes" more than a ref asking for a spot check
   
conversations: Morbius:
conversations: human
conversations:  Since when are Morbius and Terran the same person?
conversations: KCiemir:
conversations: human
conversations:  @Morbius (or another ref):
   
   Spoiler 
  So does he have cover against me? Can I even see him? Whats up?
   
conversations: Paladin Latham:
conversations: human
conversations:  Originally Posted by KCiemir 
     Since when are Morbius and Terran the same person? 
   
  
  That's what I get for being lazy and quoting another ref's message &gt;.&lt;
  
  
  PL
   
   Spoiler 
  
  What is happening is what has been said to you, he was moving south, when he did not see you there he decided to go north to W/X 12/13.
  
  The stairs are way to low to block your LoS there. And:
  1. If we are still using the character= a cube then he is 10 feet tall right now and
  2. I think you can choose any of his squares to negate cover
  
  So you can see him and he does not has cover against you
   
conversations: Morbius:
conversations: human
conversations:  This is called 'fishing'.  I'm glad KC was biting.
  
   Bloatsack the Vile round 3: 
  
  Bloatsack attempts to  snipe  Grek Thur
  
  Heavy Crossbow Attack!  (1d20+10)[ 18 ]  (taking into account that you can't see me for +2 to attack) /\ If it threatens  (1d20+10)[ 23 ] 
  If it hits  (1d10+2)[ 8 ]  /\ If it crits  (1d10+2)[ 5 ] 
  
  If you beat my hide DC12: &lt;- yes. this was with -20 taken into account.
   
   Spoiler 
  Hide  (1d20-7)[ 12 ] 
  You see Bloatsack in T26
   
  
  Edit: There was a second spoiler here with a mistaken move.  The rolls inside it don't apply anymore.
  
  Stats(for refs):
   
   Spoiler 
  
    Vital Statistics: 
   HP:  10
   AC:  17, Touch: 15, FF: 12
   Saves:  Fort +1, Ref +5, Will +0
   Current Location: T26 
   
   
  
  
  Your turn.
conversations: Paladin Latham:
conversations: human
conversations:  Ref Morbius  
  
  
  
  Bloatsack, snipping also requires a move action, your second spoiler is not valid
conversations: Morbius:
conversations: human
conversations:  Really?  My bad. Fixing it now...
  
  Edit: Done.
conversations: Paladin Latham:
conversations: human
conversations:  Alright.  I need to know if I see you before making any actions, so:
    spot  - (1d20-1)[ 6 ] 
conversations: KCiemir:
conversations: human
conversations:  Damn.  Alright, I don't know where you are, but I think I can at least know which direction the shot came from.   
   Spoiler 
  If it is from the north (top of map), I move to U/V 16/17.  If it was, as is more likely given the grappling hook and requisite spot check, from the south (bottom of map) I move to U/V 10/11.  If a ref rules that I cannot tell, I move to U/V 10/11
  
  either way, I should have total cover because of the cliffs, but if I do not and he tries to snipe again,   ride  - (1d20+5)[ 20 ]  DC 15 to take cover from my horse.
   
  
  
  Done, but need a ref check
  Stats 
   Spoiler 
  HP:3/11
  AC:14
  Position: depends on info from refs
  Buffs: Bulls strength 3/30
  Mounted: Yes
  Mount's AC:14
  Mount's HP:22/22
   
conversations: KCiemir:
conversations: human
conversations:  Grek
   
   Spoiler 
  You move to U/V 10/11.   And taking cover wouldn't work because since he is hidden you are flat-footed against his attack and can not take any actions in response to it.  Unlike an invisiable opponent, one who is hiding becomes visiable AFTER the attack is resolved so a ready action on sight wouldn't work either.
   
  
  
  Bloat
   
   Spoiler 
  Grek Thur rides north before heading east and losing sight of you behind the stairs.
   
conversations: Bigmac:
conversations: human
conversations:  Bloatsack the Vile round 4: 
  
  For Refs:
   
   Spoiler 
  Bloatsack drops his cutlass as a free action (sticks it in the ground), reloads his crossbow as a standard action, and picks his sword back up as a move action (pulls it back out of the ground).
   
  
  Stats(for refs):
   
   Spoiler 
  
    Vital Statistics: 
   HP:  10
   AC:  17, Touch: 15, FF: 12
   Saves:  Fort +1, Ref +5, Will +0
   Current Location: T26 
   
   
  
  
  your turn.
conversations: Paladin Latham:
conversations: human
conversations:  Sorry about my unannounced absence, I was at a debate tournament that I did not know I was going to, and didn't get a chance to post anything.
  
  Grek's Actions:
   
   Spoiler 
   total defense action, move to S/T 13/14
   
  
  Done
  
  Stats 
   Spoiler 
  HP:3/11
  AC:18
  Position:S/T 13/14
  Buffs: Bulls strength 4/30
  Mounted: Yes
  Mount's AC:14
  Mount's HP:22/22
   
conversations: KCiemir:
conversations: human
conversations:  Bloatsack
   
   Spoiler 
  You see Grek in S13-&gt;T14
   
  
  
  Grek
   
   Spoiler 
  
  No LoS
   
  
  
  Bloatsack is up
conversations: Bigmac:
conversations: human
conversations:  Bloatsack the Vile round 5: 
  
  I have no idea how much cover you get but Bloatsack the Vile again attempts to  snipe  you!
  
  Heavy Crossbow Attack!  (1d20+10)[ 26 ]  /\ If it threatens  (1d20+10)[ 27 ] 
  If it hits  (1d10+2)[ 7 ]  /\ If it crits  (1d10+2)[ 8 ] 
  
  The attack has +2 added in because you can't see me (I think.  Otherwise ignore that.)
  
  Edit: DC8 + distance for the spot check.  It might not matter though...
  
  For Refs:
   
   Spoiler 
  Bloatsack uses a free action to drop his cutlass before firing and then snipes Grek Thur.
  
  Hide  (1d20-7)[ 8 ] 
  
  He remains in T26
   
  
  Stats(for refs):
   
   Spoiler 
  
    Vital Statistics: 
   HP:  10
   AC:  17, Touch: 15, FF: 12
   Saves:  Fort +1, Ref +5, Will +0
   Current Location: T26 
   
   
conversations: Paladin Latham:
conversations: human
conversations:  I don't think you could have LoE on me.  I'll get a ref to decide.
conversations: KCiemir:
conversations: human
conversations:  Ref Morbius  
  
  I really think there is LoE KCiemir, at best you would get cover against his attack
conversations: Morbius:
conversations: human
conversations:  Yahar! Silver medal here I come!
conversations: Paladin Latham:
conversations: human
conversations:  rechecked, and I agree there is LoE...
  
  gg paladin.
conversations: KCiemir:
conversations: human
conversations:  Good game to you too.   I honestly thought I didn't have a chance.
conversations: Paladin Latham:
conversations: human
conversations:  GM Kyeudo  
   Bloatsack is declared the Winner! 
conversations: Kyeudo: