conversations: human
conversations:  Arena Tournament, Round 82:  Osmia  vs.  Gleb    
   Map:  
   Spoiler 
  
   
   
  
   XP Award:  300 XP
   GP Award:  300 GP
  
   Osmia  - AlterForm
   Gleb  - theterran
  
   All Combatants, please roll initiative and declare final purchases, if any. Remember that this is a single elimination Endurance tournament; all damage and effects carry over, with one hour between matches. 
conversations: ArenaManager:
conversations: human
conversations:  For this match  Osmia  has received 0 damage and  Gleb  has received 0 damage
conversations: ArenaManager:
conversations: human
conversations:  I'm here, I'm just trying to figure out a strategy...🤨
  
  (editing in stats)
  
  Stats:
   
   Spoiler 
  Location: Y9
  HP: 5/5
  AC: 15 Touch: 14
  
  Spells:
   
   Spoiler 
  Level 0 - Launch Bolt, Launch Bolt, Launch Bolt, Mage Hand
  Level 1 - Color Spray-x, Color Spray, Kelgore's Firebolt, Expeditious Retreat
   
  
   
conversations: theterran:
conversations: human
conversations:  Init  - (1d20+6)[ 16 ] 
  
  No purchases yet.
conversations: AlterForm:
conversations: human
conversations:  Purchases:
   
   Spoiler 
  Scroll of Sunstroke x2, Scroll of Magic Missile x2
   
  
    Initiative  - (1d20+7)[ 27 ] 
  
  Starting in Y9 with a scroll in hand.
conversations: theterran:
conversations: human
conversations:  Gleb - Round 1 
  
  Starting in Y9, I'll move to V9.
  
  Ready an Action:
   
   Spoiler 
  Cast Magic Missile from the scroll if he comes within range.
   
  
  
  End my Turn.
  
  Stats:
   
   Spoiler 
  Location: V9
  HP: 5/5
  AC: 15 Touch: 14
  
  Spells:
   
   Spoiler 
  
  Level 0 - Launch Bolt, Launch Bolt, Launch Bolt, Mage Hand
  Level 1 - Color Spray-x, Color Spray, Kelgore's Firebolt, Expeditious Retreat
   
  
   
conversations: theterran:
conversations: human
conversations:  Is the purchases spoiler for organization, or am I not supposed to open it?
conversations: AlterForm:
conversations: human
conversations:  Originally Posted by AlterForm 
   Is the purchases spoiler for organization, or am I not supposed to open it? 
   
  
  For organization...you can open it.
  
  (edit), assuming you don't buy something crazy, I won't buy anything else, though I reserve the right to buy something as a reaction to what you might buy (like if you buy a potion of invisibility, I'll buy a scroll of See Invisibility, that kind of thing)
conversations: theterran:
conversations: human
conversations:  No Purchases
  
   Osmia - Round 1 
  
  Start B11/C12, mounted, usual equips, usual melds.
  
  Auto-succeed Guide With Knees check (henceforth omitted for brevity)
  (Horse): Move to G19/H20
  (Osmia): Dissolving Spittle on Ice Wall section N20
    Attack  - (1d20+4)[ 5 ]  vs Nat 1 (Dex 0, -2 penalty, and size mod penalty will make the wall's AC way below 0, yes?)  Well...damn. I think I just missed the wall.  😳
    Damage  - (2d6)[ 6 ] 
  
  Status
   
   Spoiler 
   Osmia 
  HP: 8/8 (Rageclaws)
  AC 22 (4 armor, 2 shield, 4 dex, 2 natural) (Touch 14, FF 18) (Conceal 20%)
  Soulmelds: Dissolving Spittle(1E), Bluesteel Bracers, Rageclaws (1E)
  Position: G19/H20
  
   Horse 
  HP: 22/22
  AC: 14 (Conceal 20%)
  Position: G19/H20
   
  
   End Turn 
conversations: AlterForm:
conversations: human
conversations:  The wall description does say "not as spell," but the wall created by a Wall of Ice spell can be hit automatically, so I'd suspect that particular property would apply here as well.
conversations: Sallera:
conversations: human
conversations:  Well then, unless Terran has any objections, we'll play it that way. In any case:
  
   Still End Turn 
conversations: AlterForm:
conversations: human
conversations:  That's fine, but when you come within 100ft of me, and I assume that you do, as I believe your final location is within 100ft.  You trigger my readied action to cast off the scroll.
  
    Damage  - (1d4+1)[ 2 ] 
  
  (if I'm wrong about the distance, let me know and I"ll amend this.)
conversations: theterran:
conversations: human
conversations:  I trigger your RA as I pass through D16/E17.
conversations: AlterForm:
conversations: human
conversations:  Gleb - Round 2 
  
  Drop the used scroll on the ground.
  Cast a Spell
   
   Spoiler 
  Expeditious Retreat
   
  
  
  Then I move to T19.
  
  End my Turn.
  
  Stats:
   
   Spoiler 
  Location: T19
  HP: 5/5
  AC: 15 Touch: 14
  
  Spells:
  
   
   Spoiler 
  
  
  Level 0 - Launch Bolt, Launch Bolt, Launch Bolt, Mage Hand
  Level 1 - Color Spray-x, Color Spray, Kelgore's Firebolt, Expeditious Retreat-x
   
  
   
conversations: theterran:
conversations: human
conversations:  Myth-Weavers is down for the weekend; I'm not going to post until it comes back up in case some numbers are needed. It's expected to reemerge tomorrow.
conversations: AlterForm:
conversations: human
conversations:  No problem. 🙂
conversations: theterran:
conversations: human
conversations:  Osmia - Round 2 
  
  (Horse): Move: 30 ft to L17/M18
  (Osmia): Dissolving Spittle section N20
    Damage  - (2d6)[ 6 ]  (Section N20 dissolved. Rest of wall will dissolve at top of Osmia Round 3)
  
  Status
   
   Spoiler 
  Osmia
  HP: 6/8 (Rageclaws)
  AC 22 (4 armor, 2 shield, 4 dex, 2 natural) (Touch 14, FF 18)
  Soulmelds: Dissolving Spittle(1E), Bluesteel Bracers, Rageclaws (1E)
  Position: L17/M18
  
  Horse
  HP: 22/22
  AC: 14
  Position: L17/M18
   
  
   End Turn 
conversations: AlterForm:
conversations: human
conversations:  Gleb - Round 3 
  
  Draw a Scroll.
   
   Spoiler 
  Sunstroke
   
  
  
  Ready an Action:
   
   Spoiler 
  If he comes within 30ft of me, I will take a 5ft step toward him and cast Sunstroke on him
   
  
  
  End my Turn.
  
  Stats:
   
   Spoiler 
  Location: T19
  HP: 5/5
  AC: 15 Touch: 14
  Spells:
   
   Spoiler 
  
  Level 0 - Launch Bolt, Launch Bolt, Launch Bolt, Mage Hand
  Level 1 - Color Spray-x, Color Spray, Kelgore's Firebolt, Expeditious Retreat-x
   
  
   
conversations: theterran:
conversations: human
conversations:  (South Wall Dissolves)
  
   Osmia - Round 3 
  
  Assuming your RA isn't triggered by LoE being established...
  (Horse): 5ft step to M18/N19
  (Osmia): Dissolving Spittle
    Attack  - (1d20+4)[ 6 ]  vs Touch AC (Geez, Mr Dieroller, if you're going to make me fail miserably, at least have the decency to make me roll a natural 1. 🫤 )
    Damage  - (2d6)[ 9 ] 
  
  Status
   
   Spoiler 
  Osmia
  HP: 6/8 (Rageclaws)
  AC 22 (4 armor, 2 shield, 4 dex, 2 natural) (Touch 14, FF 18)
  Soulmelds: Dissolving Spittle(1E), Bluesteel Bracers, Rageclaws (1E)
  Position: M18/N19
  
  Horse
  HP: 22/22
  AC: 14
  Position: M18/N19
   
  
   End Turn 
conversations: AlterForm:
conversations: human
conversations:  Actually, when you 5ft step, you come within 30ft, which triggers my RA.
  
  I 5ft step into S19 and cast the spell off of the scroll.
  
  You take  Nonlethal Damage:   (2d6)[ 6 ]  (you're staggered, I'm assuming your HP is 6 after the MM did 2 damage.)
  
  Make a Fort Save DC11 or be fatigued.
conversations: theterran:
conversations: human
conversations:  Osmia will voluntarily fail the save.
conversations: AlterForm:
conversations: human
conversations:  Um...okay? 🤨
  
  Are you still going to take your turn as is, or are you wanting to do something else? (Since your 5ft step triggered my RA)
conversations: theterran:
conversations: human
conversations:  I just always wanted to say that, and now seemed like a good time. Not a very large penalty and all that. 😁
  
  So let's  spin  roll the ol' dice-o-matic again.
  
    Attack  - (1d20+3)[ 16 ] 
    Damage  - (2d6)[ 8 ] 
  
  Now, help me out with Arena Precedent here. Since the input was changed on my turn, do I take the "original" roll or this "redone" one?
conversations: AlterForm:
conversations: human
conversations:  I don't know, I'll get a ref. 🤨
conversations: theterran:
conversations: human
conversations:  Initiate Ref Bayar:  
  
  I dont know if this qualifies as a reason for a rewind.
  
  On the one hand,you posted what you would do in your turn, then got interrupted between two actions of yours. The second part could have been changed in light of what the thing that interrupted you is (if you were hiding and moving and got sniped by someone that becomes visible now, you could redo what you would do the moment the attack was resolved).
  
  But since it is basically an "I do the same thing, no change", I dunno if it would qualify.
conversations: Bayar:
conversations: human
conversations:  🤨
  
  Might need to cast "Summon Kyeudo" on this one.
conversations: theterran:
conversations: human
conversations:  If you take the same action, you keep the original rolls.  Also, I don't think you can voluntarily fail a Fort save. 😛
conversations: Sallera:
conversations: human
conversations:  Originally Posted by Sallera 
   If you take the same action, you keep the original rolls.  Also, I don't think you can voluntarily fail a Fort save. 😛 
   
  
  Yes you can. You dont roll your save.
conversations: Bayar:
conversations: human
conversations:  Originally Posted by Sallera 
   If you take the same action, you keep the original rolls.  Also, I don't think you can voluntarily fail a Fort save. 😛 
   
  
  Sounds official enough to me. Osmia's attack misses; the fort save is really immaterial at this point.
  
  Gleb just has to decide which scroll he wants to use to finish Osmia off with.
conversations: AlterForm:
conversations: human
conversations:  Gleb - Round 4 
  
  5ft Step to R19.
  Move Action: Draw a Scroll
  
  Standard Action: Cast the spell off the scroll.
   
   Spoiler 
  Sunstroke
   
  
  You take  (2d6)[ 9 ]  Non-Lethal Damage, which should make you fall unconcious.
  
  After that, I use Fiery Burst on you until your HP is &lt; -10
conversations: theterran:
conversations: human
conversations:  GM Kyeudo  
  
  Just here to give confirmation of the ruling. If nothing has happened to change the circumstances of the original roll, you do not get to roll again.
conversations: Kyeudo:
conversations: human
conversations:  With that confirmation, I guess that the match is over then.
conversations: theterran:
conversations: human
conversations:  Originally Posted by theterran 
   With that confirmation, I guess that the match is over then. 
   
  
  Osmia scores a sweet tan, and Gleb advances. 😎
conversations: AlterForm:
conversations: human
conversations:  High Ref Psidog  
   Gleb tans Osmia's hide for Victory 
conversations: Psionic Dog: