conversations: human
conversations:  Arena Tournament, Round 32:  Kyre  vs.  Cyn    
   Map:  
   Spoiler 
  
   
   
  
   XP Award:  300 XP
   GP Award:  300 GP
  
   Lord Sarthax - Kyre "the terrible" 
   stupnick - Cyn 
   All Combatants, please roll initiative. 
conversations: ArenaManager:
conversations: human
conversations:  (1d20+2)[ 15 ] 
  
  no purchases at this time
conversations: lord sarthax:
conversations: human
conversations:  one question, do you still have that healing potion or did you already use it?
  
  i will make sure i update my character sheet before the game starts.
conversations: lord sarthax:
conversations: human
conversations:  initiative
   (1d20)[ 1 ] 
  
  everything is updated.. yes i still have it
conversations: stupnick:
conversations: human
conversations:  i buy a scroll of sleep, will start if you dont buy anything
conversations: lord sarthax:
conversations: human
conversations:  ok im gona go now. feel free to buy something since i wont have the money to counter you.
  
  start in A13 with loaded crossbow in main hand and scroll in the other
  
  move to A7 and cast a spell
  
  spell spellcraft dc of 16 to know that i am casting
   
   Spoiler 
  mage armor
   
  
  
  stats for refs
   
   Spoiler 
   location: A7
  HP: 6
  AC: 16 (+2 from dex, +4 mage armor)
  buffs: mage armor, 1 hour (doubt it will expire)
  spells: 1 -  mage armor,  Orb of acid lesser, fist of stone 0 - ray of frost, daze, daze
   
conversations: lord sarthax:
conversations: human
conversations:  not going to buy anything..
  
  
  start in y13
  
  run to n12
  
  one spear in one hand, one javalin in the other
  
  
  
  stats
   
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  HP:18/18
  AC:11
   
conversations: stupnick:
conversations: human
conversations:  run to A1
  
   
   Spoiler 
   ready an action to use scroll of sleep as soon as he enters line of effect.
   
  
  
  stats for refs
   
   Spoiler 
   location: A1
  HP: 6
  AC: 16 (+2 from dex, +4 mage armor)
  buffs: mage armor, 1 hour (doubt it will expire)
  spells: 1 -  mage armor,  Orb of acid lesser, fist of stone 0 - ray of frost, daze, daze
   
conversations: lord sarthax:
conversations: human
conversations:  Run to L1
  
  Begin Raging
  
  stats
   
   Spoiler 
  
  HP:18/18
  Rage: 2/2
  AC:9
  Rage 1/10
   
conversations: stupnick:
conversations: human
conversations:  ok i readied an action to use sleep on Cyn as soon as he got into LoE I need a will save DC 16 and if you fail you fall asleep for 1 minute.
conversations: lord sarthax:
conversations: human
conversations:  rolling will save
  
   (1d20-1)[ 18 ] 
  
  nice.. DC btw : )
  
  edit: WOOT : )
conversations: stupnick:
conversations: human
conversations:  GM Kyeudo  
  
  Small rules niggle. Casting Sleep, even from a scroll, is a full round action. You can only ready a standard action. Thus, you can't cast the full spell as a readied action. However, you can start a full round action as a standard action and complete it with your next stanard action.
  
  So, since you obviously wanted to cast Sleep on Cyn, we amend your readied action to "Start casting Sleep". On your next turn, unless interrupted or Cyn goes out of LoE, you will have to complete the spell as a standard action, since Cyn has already made the save against it.
conversations: Kyeudo:
conversations: human
conversations:  soooooo. i only have a move action or what. im confused on who is up.
conversations: lord sarthax:
conversations: human
conversations:  Initiate Ref Talic 
  
  @Sarthax
   
   Spoiler 
  
  By Kyeudo's ruling, as your opponent has already saved against the effect, you are required to finish the spell.  This means that, provided your opponent is still a legal target for the spell at the start of your next turn, you must use a standard action to finish casting the spell.  On your action, you will have a move action after completing the spell.
  
  If however, your opponent becomes an illegal target (you lose LoS, for example), I would recommend reposting the question to see if this will still be enforced.  If you can't target him, you'll likely be able to cancel the spell, merely losing the scroll slot.
   
conversations: Talic:
conversations: human
conversations:  Ref Bayar  
  
  @talic and other refs
   
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  Scroll slot? WTF dude?
  
  he should have readied an action to start casting the spell if his opponent finishes moving in a LOE square...
   
conversations: Bayar:
conversations: human
conversations:  refs
   
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  so, i have a move action on my next turn but since i think stupnick finished his turn, i get to go right
   
conversations: lord sarthax:
conversations: human
conversations:  @Bayar and other refs:
   
   Spoiler 
  Yes, but Kyeudo ruled that since his readied action was illegal (Ready to cast sleep), it would be modified to the closest allowed action (Ready to start casting sleep).  Since he already got his opponent to roll the save, he's being held to the full casting, if possible.  That part was Kyeudo's ruling, best as I can figure, above.  Just upholding it as required and delivering the consequences (player must finish the spell if possible to affect opponent, and will have a move action after finishing).
   
conversations: Talic:
conversations: human
conversations:  shall be gone till sunday  back
conversations: lord sarthax:
conversations: human
conversations:  High Ref Bronz  
    Due to inactivity, Kyre wins and collects what is owed.  
  
  That's what I get for just posting and not checking things over.
  Chilepepper is correct.
conversations: Bronz:
conversations: human
conversations:  ref chilepepper  
  
  Lord Sarthax asked who is up.  That was never answered outside of spoilers.   Is there some reason this match was called against someone who didn't know it was their turn?   Just curious.
  
  edit: it's still lord sarthax's turn
conversations: chilepepper:
conversations: human
conversations:  so is this match not called then?
conversations: lord sarthax:
conversations: human
conversations:  well what left of  my turn is there?
conversations: lord sarthax:
conversations: human
conversations:  You'd only have a move action left.
conversations: Mavian:
conversations: human
conversations:  i move to a7
conversations: lord sarthax:
conversations: human
conversations:  Ref Talic 
  
  Firstly, Run is a defined action in D&amp;D.  Please don't use the term unless you are using a full round action to move your movement x3 or x4, and are ok with losing your dex modifier to AC.  If you are just moving, just use the term move (or, if you like theatrics, something other than run, at least).
  
  Also, it's easier for your opponent to know when it's his turn, if you tell him you're done.
  
  This is the Entire match, thus far, or what may be relayed out of spoilers:
  
   Round 1 
  Kyre started in A13, used a move action to go to A7, and Cast a spell (standard).
  
  Cyn started in Y13, and used a Run (Full round action) to reach N12.
  
   Round 2 
  Kyre moved from A7 to A1 and readied an action to start casting Sleep (condition spoilered).
  
  Cyn used a Run (Full round action) to move from N12 to L1.  This triggered Kyre's action to begin casting sleep from his scroll(at square N11).  Kyre begins, Cyn finishes move at L1, and uses a free action to Rage.
  
   Round 3 
  Kyre finishes casting Sleep.  Opponent makes the Will save.  It is still Kyre's turn, and he has a move action remaining.
  
  As I've gone over the match, this seems to be the correct play roster thus far.  Kyre, play resumes with your turn.  Complete your move action, as well as any free or swift actions you desire, and pass the turn to Cyn.
conversations: Talic:
conversations: human
conversations:  already did
conversations: lord sarthax:
conversations: human
conversations:  Run to A1
  
  stats
   
   Spoiler 
  
  
  HP:18/18
  Rage: 2/2
  AC:9
  Rage 2/10
   
conversations: stupnick:
conversations: human
conversations:  move to a7
  
  i cast lesser orb of acid at him, ranged touch attack against an ac of 7 because before rage his touch ac was 9,  (1d20+2)[ 22 ] 
  
  stats for refs,
   
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  location: A7
  HP: 6
  AC: 16 (+2 from dex, +4 mage armor)
  buffs: mage armor, 1 hour (doubt it will expire)
  spells: 1 -  mage armor, Orb of acid lesser,  fist of stone 0 - ray of frost, daze, daze
   
conversations: lord sarthax:
conversations: human
conversations:  sory already at a7, i wanted to move to d5
conversations: lord sarthax:
conversations: human
conversations:  woopes dammage  (1d8)[ 5 ] 
conversations: lord sarthax:
conversations: human
conversations:  Cyn 
  
  5ft step to A2
  
  Throwing a Spear at him, he is with in 20 ft, so 1st range increment
   (1d20+9)[ 25 ]  (+1Bab, +5str, +2 rage)
   (1d8+7)[ 15 ]  (+5str, +2rage)
  
  then free action swapping the javalin from my offhand to my main hand
  
  Stats
   
   Spoiler 
  
  HP:13/18
  Rage: 2/2
  AC:9
  Rage 3/10
   
conversations: stupnick:
conversations: human
conversations:  i think that got me. :'(
  
  i duno about this guy, dont realy like him that much
conversations: lord sarthax:
conversations: human
conversations:  yeah.. if your enemy makes a single save, your kinda SOL
conversations: stupnick:
conversations: human
conversations:  High Ref Mav: 
  
  Cyn is declared the winner and receives the aforementioned prizes. 
conversations: Mavian: