conversations: human
conversations:  So. Any preference on map/buff rounds?
conversations: Adumbration:
conversations: human
conversations:  I don't care about the map...and how about all days + one buff round?
conversations: Olo Demonsbane:
conversations: human
conversations:  Just one, eh? I'd prefer 2, if that's alright with you. Makes no difference to me whether we'll use all-day buffs or not. (Unfortunately, most infusions have 1 minute casting time and duration of 10 min/level. But I digress.)
  
  Let's use the columns, or columns improved, shall we?
conversations: Adumbration:
conversations: human
conversations:  Sure, 2+All Day works for me.  So do columns or extended columns.
  
   Buffs:   
   Spoiler 
   All Day: 
  Activate Bead of Karma
  Ankh of Ascension sacrifice GMW
  Cast GMW on gauntlets
  Ankh of Ascension sacrifice GMW
  Cast GMW on armor spikes
  Ankh of Ascension sacrifice GMW
  Cast GMW on shield spikes
  Ankh of Ascension sacrifice Magic Vestment
  Cast Magic Vestment on armor
  Ankh of Ascension sacrifice Magic Vestment
  Cast Magic Vestment on shields
  Cast Superior Resistance
  Activate Blindly Scroll of Greater Mighty Wallop
   Round 1: 
  Activate Second Bead of Karma
   Round 2:  
  Cast Ethereal Jaunt
  Move down 70ft
   
  
  
  Initiative  (1d20+7)[ 19 ] 
conversations: Olo Demonsbane:
conversations: human
conversations:  Map:
   {table=head] |A|B|C|D|E|F|G|H|I|J|K|L 
   1 ||||||||||||
   2 |
   3 ||| C | C ||||| C | C ||
   4 ||| C | C ||||| C | C ||
   5 ||||||||||||
   6 |
   7 |
   8 ||||||||||||
   9 ||| C | C ||||| C | C ||
   10 ||| C | C ||||| C | C ||
   11 |
   12 |||||||||||[/table] 
  Buffs:
   
   Spoiler 
  Round 1: Activate scroll of Golem Immunity (stone golem) on self.
  Round 2: Activate Cube of Force, on setting 5 (keeps out all things).
  
  He is wielding a wand of True strike and a wand of Launch item. He has a wand of Enervation and the cube of Force stored in his gloves.
   
  
  
  Description:
   
   Spoiler 
  
  You see what is apparently a warforged, although strangely enough, instead of metal, wood and other materials, this one is made of some sort of craggy stone. It is wearing a long leather coat and a fedora hat. Two belts criss-cross his chest, with various flasks and wands hanging ready. An open scroll case hangs by his side. He is standing on a carpet, floating at about 10 ft high.
  
  A translucent cloud surrounds him. And there's six of him.
  
  If you have some method of seeing invisibility or True seeing, you see also:
   
   Spoiler 
  Some kind of transparent cube surrounds him, that is invisible to the naked eye but that your ability to see invisible makes visible as a sort of shimmering.
   
  
  
  If you have True Seeing, and True seeing only:
   
   Spoiler 
  You discern the correct warforged among the images.
   
  
   
  
  
  Initiative:
   (1d20+3)[ 23 ] 
  
  Location, open after deciding your own starting location:
   
   Spoiler 
  F12. If you have LoS, open description.
   
conversations: Adumbration:
conversations: human
conversations:  Current Location (don't look at this):  
   Spoiler 
  D2, 70ft down
   
conversations: Olo Demonsbane:
conversations: human
conversations:  Do we have LoS? I believe I won initiative, barring some shenanananigans.
  
  EDIT: I gotta get some sleep. Take your time, I'll be back in about 9 hours.
conversations: Adumbration:
conversations: human
conversations:  You don't have LoS.
  
  By the way, I'm curious.  What tier is your character?
conversations: Olo Demonsbane:
conversations: human
conversations:  Actions:
   
   Spoiler 
  Standard action to activate the wand of True strike.
   
  
  
  Tier 2, maybe 3, probably. End of turn.
conversations: Adumbration:
conversations: human
conversations:  Actions:  
   Spoiler 
  Activate Blindly my Scroll of Owl's Insight.
  Move down 40 more feet.
  15 rounds remaining of Ethereal Jaunt.
   
  
  
  My character is probably Tier 1.5
conversations: Olo Demonsbane:
conversations: human
conversations:  My character has not moved. LoS?
conversations: Adumbration:
conversations: human
conversations:  Nope, sorry.
conversations: Olo Demonsbane:
conversations: human
conversations:  Actions:
   
   Spoiler 
  Move action to draw item, standard to activate Dust of Dispersion.
   
  
  
  End of turn. He has not moved. I've added a few things to the description, though.
conversations: Adumbration:
conversations: human
conversations:  Actions:  
   Spoiler 
  Sacrifice Conviction with Ankh of Ascension.
  Cast Conviction.
  14 rounds remaining with Ethereal Jaunt.
   
  
  
  No change in LoS.
conversations: Olo Demonsbane:
conversations: human
conversations:  Actions:
   
   Spoiler 
  Move action to draw a wand of mirror image, standard to use it as maximized with the artificer class feature, burning 4 charges. Free action to drop it.
   
  
  
  No LoS change on my part. Buffing is fun, eh? Going to make another change in the description.
conversations: Adumbration:
conversations: human
conversations:  Actions:  
   Spoiler 
  Burn Shield of Faith through Ankh of Ascension.
  Cast Shield of Faith.
  13 rounds remaining in Ethereal Jaunt.
   
  
  
  No LoS change.
conversations: Olo Demonsbane:
conversations: human
conversations:  Actions:
   
   Spoiler 
  Double-move to F8.
   
  
  
  New location:
   
   Spoiler 
  F8.
   
  
  
  I... don't think that will cause a change in LoS, so open only after deciding your actions, please.
conversations: Adumbration:
conversations: human
conversations:  Actions:  
   Spoiler 
  Activate Blindly my Scroll of Barkskin.
  12 rounds remaining of Ethereal Jaunt.
   
  
  
  No LoS change.
conversations: Olo Demonsbane:
conversations: human
conversations:  Actions:
   
   Spoiler 
  Double move to F4.
   
  
  
  This may change LoS. BXT-113 moves to F4. Do we have LoS?
conversations: Adumbration:
conversations: human
conversations:  No we do not.
  
  Actions:  
   Spoiler 
  Cast Shield of Warding.
  11 rounds left of Ethereal Jaunt.
   
  
  
  No LoS change.
conversations: Olo Demonsbane:
conversations: human
conversations:  BXT-113 moves to F2. Change in LoS?
conversations: Adumbration:
conversations: human
conversations:  Nope.
  
  Is that end turn?
conversations: Olo Demonsbane:
conversations: human
conversations:  Actions:
   
   Spoiler 
  Move action to draw a scroll of MDJ.
   
  
  
  Now it is. How long are you planning on waiting?
conversations: Adumbration:
conversations: human
conversations:  I've got a lot of buff spells. 🙂  Plus, I like to wait for my opponent's buffs to run down 😉
  
  Actions:  
   Spoiler 
  Cast Righteous Might.
  10 rounds left of Ethereal Jaunt.
   
  
  
  End turn, no LoS change.
conversations: Olo Demonsbane:
conversations: human
conversations:  How many rounds do you need? (It's just a bit annoying, this ping-pong of useless messages, especially considering our low frequency of posting...)
  
  EDIT: Anyway, it's half-past midnight here. Again. I'm off to sleeeeeeeep.
conversations: Adumbration:
conversations: human
conversations:  10 more, to be specific.
  
  Do you just want to post your actions for that amount of time?  I'll post my actions, and then we can get on with the fight.
  
  
  Good night.
conversations: Olo Demonsbane:
conversations: human
conversations:  Sure, that would work for me. I'll get to work on my list, you do yours.
conversations: Adumbration:
conversations: human
conversations:  Lots of Actions:
   
   Spoiler 
  Round 1: Shield of Warding
  Round 2: Cast Righteous Might
  Round 3: Activate Blindly my scroll of Haste
  Round 4: Cast Death by Thorns, Holding the touch charge, taking  (1d3)[ 2 ]  Wisdom damage
  Round 5: Cast Lesser Restoration on myself, healing  (1d3)[ 2 ]  Wisdom damage
  Round 6: If that wasn't enough, cast lesser restoration again, for  (1d3)[ 1 ]  more wisdom healed.  Otherwise, skip turn.
  Round 7: Cast Spell Flower
  Round 8: Move up 70ft, cast Harm, holding the touch charge.
  Round 9: Cast Extended Holy Star
  Round 10: Move up 30ft, ready an action to 5ft step up and touch him as the ethereal jaunt dies.  Activate Sacred Flames. Snap Fingers.
   
  
  
  So, by my estimation, that makes it your turn, but we don't have LoS, assuming you haven't moved.
  
  Location:  
   Spoiler 
  D2, 5ft down
   
conversations: Olo Demonsbane:
conversations: human
conversations:  Actions:
   
   Spoiler 
  Round 1: Zip.
  Round 2: Zip.
  Round 3: Zip.
  Round 4: Zip.
  Round 5: Zip.
  Round 6: Zip.
  Round 7: Zip.
  Round 8: Zip.
  Round 9: Zip.
  Round 10: Renew Mirror images.
  Round 11: Ready an action to MDJ anyone who breaks the force walls.
  
  All buffs are still in place, although Cube of Force has spent 6 charges now. (Leaving 30, with the second minute ongoing.)
   
  
  
  Location has not changed. I included my turn in the actions, so it's your turn.
conversations: Adumbration:
conversations: human
conversations:  Well, right before my turn begins, my readied action goes off: I 5ft step up through the ground as my ethereal jaunt ends and reach at you from D2.
  
  Touch attack  (1d20+29)[ 40 ] 
  
  Description: You see a 10ft tall woman with mahogany-colored skin and jet black hair.  She wears spiked armor and has a shield orbiting around her, while her hands are covered by two clear gauntlets, one glowing red and the other green.  A glowing mote of light floats over her shoulder.
  
  My actual turn will happen after I learn the result of the touch attack.
conversations: Olo Demonsbane:
conversations: human
conversations:  You fail to exit the ground at D2 - an invisible wall stops you.
  
  I'm guessing this will change your actions.
conversations: Adumbration:
conversations: human
conversations:  In that case, I am shunted through the floor and through the wall for  (2d6)[ 8 ]  damage, assuming your wall is 5ft or less thick.
  
  My touch attack then goes off as normal.
conversations: Olo Demonsbane:
conversations: human
conversations:  Originally Posted by Olo Demonsbane 
   In that case, I am shunted through the floor and through the wall for [roll0] damage, assuming your wall is 5ft or less thick.
  
  My touch attack then goes off as normal. 
   
  
  I'm not sure if you can do that.
  
  Reason (Observers only):
   
   Spoiler 
  It's a wall of force.
   
conversations: Adumbration:
conversations: human
conversations:  Outsiders view:
  
  Based on reading of the effects:  The invisible wall has explicit text stating: "keeps out all things".  Ethereal jaunt's shunting text is not explicit enough to override this.
conversations: PhoenixRivers:
conversations: human
conversations:  Anyone bar Olo:
   
   Spoiler 
  Surely a Force Effect would be impossible to get through, ethereal or not. Shunted diagonally up?
   
conversations: term1nally s1ck:
conversations: human
conversations:  @anyone bar olo: 
   Spoiler 
  Things get through force effects.  An escape artist check can do it.  The explicit text is what really does it here, IMO.
   
conversations: PhoenixRivers:
conversations: human
conversations:  Should he really hit the wall and take damage?
  
  Anyone but Olo:
  
   
   Spoiler 
  When Olo is in D2 and Adumbration in F2 and the walls of force are 10 feet on a side, I think that means that the corners of the wall are at the centerpoints of squares E1, E3, G3, and G1. (The squares are 5 feet as normal, right?) This would mean that Olo rises to the surface, taking no damage, but not succeeding with the touch attack with the force wall going through the middle of E2 and all.
  
  Even if the cube can be turned 45 degrees from the orientation of the battle grid, according to my calculations it still wouldn't reach to D2.
   
conversations: Nerdanel:
conversations: human
conversations:  Anyone but Olo:
   
   Spoiler 
  Huh, I think you may be right.  I thought it extended 10 feet  from  the cube, but now that I'm reading the description, I'm pretty sure it was wrong.
   
conversations: Adumbration:
conversations: human
conversations:  Originally Posted by PhoenixRivers 
   Outsiders view:
  
  Based on reading of the effects:  The invisible wall has explicit text stating: "keeps out all things".  Ethereal jaunt's shunting text is not explicit enough to override this. 
   
  
  I agree with this.
  
  Everyone bar Olo:
   
   Spoiler 
  It is indeed a 10-foot cube, composed of 8 5-foot cubes.
   
conversations: Claudius Maximus:
conversations: human
conversations:  I feel so loved...
conversations: Olo Demonsbane:
conversations: human
conversations:  My two cents:
  
  Everyone bar Olo: 
   Spoiler 
  Force effects extend into the Ethereal, that's why Magic Missiles have so much fun against targets there. If he is using Ethereal Jaunt, he would actually *SEE* the wall in the ethereal, and it would be a physical wall to him on that plane. He wouldn't be able to move *into* the square, therefore the 'shunting' rules do not apply.
  
  Citing from SRD in the Ethereal Jaunt page:
   Force effects and abjurations affect an ethereal creature normally. Their effects extend onto the Ethereal Plane from the Material Plane, but not vice versa. An ethereal creature can’t attack material creatures, and spells you cast while ethereal affect only other ethereal things. Certain material creatures or objects have attacks or effects that work on the Ethereal Plane. 
  
  And citing relevant text from Wall of Force:
   It blocks ethereal creatures as well as material ones (though ethereal creatures can usually get around the wall by floating under or over it through material floors and ceilings). 
   
conversations: ShneekeyTheLost: