A recurring facet of his music has been personal involvement with performers, composers, and exceptional participants in the field of new music. This began in association with colleagues and teachers including the Composers Club with Don Gillis at SMU. In more recent years a successful juncture was found in collaboration with contrabass artist Bertram Turetzky. A creative universe was discovered from Intonement 1976 to Ciel Luminaire and Ciel Etoil Chamber Concerto for Contrabass and Nine Instruments premiered with Harvey Sollberger and the Sonar Ensemble in November 1996.