He has been in private practice for 30 plus years providing individual, marriage, family and work place counseling and consulting. His special interest is working with mens issues and stress in the work place. He has been active for 15 years in launching small groups for Christian men. In addition, he has presented seminars in this country and overseas for churches, businesses, corporations, and professional sports teams. He was the founding chapel leader for the Phoenix Suns and remained in that role for six years.