He was the only witness on the morning of Friday Aug 2, 2013. Larry Williams’ lawyers questioned his qualifications since his expertise was in military and international situations, but the judge allowed his testimony providing he did not try to give a legal definition of torture. He submitted a 3 page report based on hundreds of pages of information provided to him beforehand, admitting that he did not read every word. His testimony in a nutshell was that the 2 children were unquestionably tortured. It was not a close call, there were no doubts in his mind and there were no two ways about it.