one spring 162 cover plates 106 and 164 spring 112 and the flange fig4 is a partial cross sectional view of torque converter 200 with turbine plate assembly 202 torque converter 200 includes damper assembly 204 including cover plate 206 with a plurality of openings 208 flange 210 and at least one spring 212 in contact with the flange and the cover plate the torque converter also includes turbine 214 including at least one blade 216 and shell 218 including portion 220 disposed radially inward of blade 216 portion 220 also includes a plurality of openings 222 turbine plate assembly 202 includes turbine plate 226 with a plurality of openings 228 and a plurality of fasteners 230 passing through the openings 208 222 and 228 fasteners 230 fixedly secure cover plate 206 portion 220 and turbine plate 226 to one another assembly 224 includes seal element 232 sealed against radially inner circumference 234 of turbine plate 226 and arranged to seal against input shaft 236 for a transmission not shown radially inner circumference 238 of cover plate 206 is in contact with portion 240 of flange 210 and radially inner circumference 242 of the flange is arranged to contact input shaft 236 to radially center the flange and cover plate 206 with respect to the input shaft and to transmit torque to the input shaft as further described below in an example embodiment radially inner circumference 243 of portion 220 of the turbine shell and radially outer circumference 244 of the turbine plate are aligned in a radial direction advantageously minimizing an axial extent of the turbine plate assembly in an example embodiment openings 222 and 228 are at least partially aligned in circumferential direction c such that fasteners 230 are at a uniform radial distance r.