unable to slide through the bore 36 formed by the needle point 18 puncturing the skin and would therefore remain on the outside of the skin as illustrated upon the needle point 18 exiting the other side of the incision the thread would be forced to form an arc 42 as illustrated extending from the point 18 of needle 12 to the point of exit of the thread from the bore 41 the arc 42 formed by the thread would then define a grab space 44 in which the length of thread defining the line of the arc 42 could be grasped in its alternate embodiment as illustrated in fig6 and 7 needle 12 would generally include a straight body portion 14 with the body portion 14 forming a curved portion 15 generally adjacent the point 18 of needle 12 there would also be formed as with the principal embodiment a bore 22 through the body of the needle 12 that would extend through the body 14 as previously described for fig3 through 5 in all other respects however as generally described in the preferred embodiment the embodiment of needle 12 as illustrated in fig6 and 7 would function with the suturing assembly in the same manner as the preferred embodiment as will be described further in either embodiments as illustrated the bore within the needles 12 would enable the thread within the bore to be maintain relatively dry until such time as that length of thread is pulled in through the incision hole to be used in the suturing process at this point in the suturing process apparatus 11 would further comprise a thread looping assembly means 50.