also the case in the embodiment shown in fig1 however in this embodiment as opposed to that which is shown in fig2 first energy accumulator means 28 with reference to the radial direction of rotation axis 26 is disposed substantially further on the radial inside with reference to the radial distance between axis 26 and the radially exterior section of the enveloping surface of converter housing 22 the axes or the center force effect lines of first energy accumulators or arc springs 68 are disposed in the two inner thirds of the distance while in the embodiment shown in fig2 the center axes or force effect lines are substantially positioned in the radially exterior third the embodiment shown in fig1 can also be designated as u201c small radius damper u201d which comprises arc springs and which is configured in a turbine torsion damper configuration the configuration shown in fig2 can also be designated as turbine torsion damper ttd comprising arc springs in the embodiments shown in fig1 and 2 outer turbine shell 40 is non rotatably connected to input component 32 of first energy accumulator means 28 in the embodiments shown in fig4 and 5 in which torsion vibration damper 10 of torque converter device 1 comprises first energy accumulator means 28 and second energy accumulator means 30 outer turbine dish 40 is non rotatably connected to input component 32 of first energy accumulator means 28 in the embodiment shown in fig3 as opposed to those which are shown in fig4 and 5 outer turbine dish 40 is non rotatably connected to intermediary component 62 or to output component 64 of first energy accumulator means 28 or to input component 66 of second energy accumulator means 30.