traveling fourdrinier wire 10 which is supported and carried on rolls including a breast roll 9 a couch roll and other wire supporting rolls are provided in the usual manner and these rolls are omitted from the drawing and their structures and positions will be fully understood by those versed in the art positioned above the fourdrinier wire 10 is a headbox 11 with a slice 12 for discharging stock onto the traveling wire principally the slice is provided for the purposes of providing a fibrous paper making stock into the forming zone between the lower fourdrinier wire 10 and an upper looped forming wire 15 with the forming zone extending essentially from location 16 to location 17 through which the wires run in close running adjacent web forming engagement preferably with the upper wire pressed into the lower wire as illustrated the slice is adjustable in position and the upper slice lip is constructed adjustable by means of a screw jack 13 so as to control the quantity of stock deposited onto the wire the arrangement is well adapted to use a machine for making multiple layered webs and in such operation a first layer will be formed on the wire 10 through the forming zone and at the offrunning side the web layer will follow the lower wire 10 at the location w to a second.