《韩非子·内储说上七术》
子贡认为刑罚过重了，就询问孔子，孔子说： 这是因为他们懂得治理方法。
子贡以为重，问之仲尼。仲尼曰： 知治之道也。
Zigong asked Confucius and said, “The punishment is too harsh, isn’t it?” Confucius told him, “They understand the principles of governing methods.”