《明史·列传·卷二十四》
回答说 ：我的谋略不如刘基，学问不如宋濂，治民之才不如章溢、叶琛。 
对曰： 臣谋略不如基，学问不如濂，治民之才不如溢、琛。 
He replied: I'm not as good at strategy as Liu Ji, not as good at scholarship as Song Lian, and not as good at governing the people as Zhang Yi and Ye Chen. 