《荀子·哀公》
哀公说： 这样的话，那么那些戴着商代式样的礼帽、穿着缚有鞋带的鞋子、束着宽大的腰带并在腰带上插着朝板的人，他们都贤能吗？ 孔子回答说： 不一定贤能。
哀公曰： 然则夫章甫絇屦，绅带而搢笏者，此贤乎？ 
Duke Ai said: "If this is the case, then are those who wear ritual caps in the style of the Shang dynasty, wear shoes with laces, have large belts, and carry tally sticks inserted on their belts, are they all worthy?" Confucius replied: "Not necessarily."