<p>Mass attracts mass, and so dark matter will attract normal matter and vice versa. However, people have looked for "dark lenses", so far without success.</p>

<p>Examples:</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0307381" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0307381</a></li>
<li><a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0203061" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0203061</a> ("dark" only in X-ray?)</li>
<li><a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/9804136" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/9804136</a> (mostly "not a lens" rather than a dark one)</li>
<li><a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0202360" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0202360</a> discusses what a dark lens should look like</li>
</ul>

<p>On the other side of the question, normal matter has a chance to cool and thus clump together more densely than is possible for dark matter. Hence, small-scale dense environments are dominated by normal matter.</p>

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Alex
<p>We lack the precision to say that there aren't regions where there is matter without dark matter or vice-versa. But what <em>is</em> clear is that the ratio of dark matter to normal matter, which is (or needs to be) around 5 on average to explain the flatness of the universe, varies by orders of magnitude from place to place.</p>

<p>The reason for this is that matter interacts with matter in a completely different way to that in which dark matter interacts (weakly) with normal matter or itself by any other means than gravity. Gravitational interactions between normal/dark matter are not dissipative. </p>

<p>By that I mean that the sum of gravitational and kinetic energy is preserved. When normal matter interacts with itself there are normally dissipative consequences. For example, interacting matter may become hot and radiate away energy. </p>

<p>That is why the normal matter in our Milky Way galaxy is concentrated into a plane. Dissipative interactions during the gravitational collapse of our Galaxy, combined with the requirement for conservation of angular momentum result in disc formation. The same is <em>not</em> true for the dark matter associated with the Milky Way, which is expected to have a much more spherical distribution.</p>

<p>Likewise, when we look at the required density profiles of normal and dark matter in order to explain the kinematics of stars and gas in our Milky Way, we see that the normal matter is much more centrally concentrated than is the dark matter - hence we talk about a "dark halo". Again, dissipative interactions in normal matter are the reason.</p>

<p>Another famous example of the separation between dark and normal matter is the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullet_Cluster" rel="noreferrer">bullet cluster</a>. The image below shows where the hot gas is (normal matter, observed by an X-ray telescope) compared to where it is inferred that the dark matter is (shown by contours) on the basis of gravitational lensing. This pair of galaxy clusters have recently interacted, passing through each other. The hot, intracluster gas has been stripped out of the pair and shock-heated, so that it appears concentrated <em>between</em> the two galaxy clusters. The dark matter content of each cluster has sailed on oblivious and remains concentrated around the visible cluster galaxies.</p>

<p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/XBVki.png" rel="noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/XBVki.png" alt="enter image description here"></a></p>

<p>Yet another example would be <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwarf_spheroidal_galaxy" rel="noreferrer">dwarf spheroidal galaxies</a>, these are relatively small galaxies that are nevertheless almost <a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/0709.1510" rel="noreferrer">totally dominated by dark matter</a> - they have mass-to-light ratios of $\sim$1000, compared with a "normal" galaxy, where this ratio might be $\sim$ 10.</p>

<p>There are also examples of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_galaxy" rel="noreferrer">dark galaxies</a>. These may not be galaxies made of non-baryonic dark matter, but dark matter in the sense that for whatever reason, these galaxies do not contain many bright stars. Thus although they may be massive, they do not emit much light and contain a lot of "inert", non-starforming gas.</p>

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2016-12-22T13:19:52.517Z
Thanks, @RobJeffries (seriously). I read the accepted answer, did a bit of research, and then came back to start writing my own long answer when I saw that you had already written one. You saved me some free time best put to other purposes.
David Hammen
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2016-12-22T13:19:58.893Z
This is a much better answer than is the accepted answer, @dllhell. I suggest you change your mind.
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2016-12-22T19:55:35.473Z
What a terrific answer--thank you @RobJeffries!  What does the apparent obliviousness of the bullet cluster's dark matter content say about how dark matter interacts with dark matter?  Was it previously known that it was so oblivious to its own kind in addition to normal matter?
U007D
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@bRadGibson (but I guess, not THE Brad Gibson) it was already assumed that dark matter interacts very weakly with itself as well as normal matter. I don't think the Bullet cluster offers any new constraints, but I could be wrong.
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ProfRob
<p>Is normal matter always accompanied by dark matter and dark matter by normal matter?</p>

<p>Was ever observed effect of gravity lensing without normal matter?</p>

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Is normal matter always accompanied by dark matter and vice versa?
dllhell
# Is normal matter always accompanied by dark matter and vice versa?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2016-12-22)

Is normal matter always accompanied by dark matter and dark matter by normal matter?

Was ever observed effect of gravity lensing without normal matter?

**Tags:** dark-matter, matter

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_2 on 2016-12-22. Score: 16 | Accepted answer

We lack the precision to say that there aren't regions where there is matter without dark matter or vice-versa. But what *is* clear is that the ratio of dark matter to normal matter, which is (or needs to be) around 5 on average to explain the flatness of the universe, varies by orders of magnitude from place to place.

The reason for this is that matter interacts with matter in a completely different way to that in which dark matter interacts (weakly) with normal matter or itself by any other means than gravity. Gravitational interactions between normal/dark matter are not dissipative.

By that I mean that the sum of gravitational and kinetic energy is preserved. When normal matter interacts with itself there are normally dissipative consequences. For example, interacting matter may become hot and radiate away energy.

That is why the normal matter in our Milky Way galaxy is concentrated into a plane. Dissipative interactions during the gravitational collapse of our Galaxy, combined with the requirement for conservation of angular momentum result in disc formation. The same is *not* true for the dark matter associated with the Milky Way, which is expected to have a much more spherical distribution.

Likewise, when we look at the required density profiles of normal and dark matter in order to explain the kinematics of stars and gas in our Milky Way, we see that the normal matter is much more centrally concentrated than is the dark matter - hence we talk about a "dark halo". Again, dissipative interactions in normal matter are the reason.

Another famous example of the separation between dark and normal matter is the [bullet cluster](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullet_Cluster). The image below shows where the hot gas is (normal matter, observed by an X-ray telescope) compared to where it is inferred that the dark matter is (shown by contours) on the basis of gravitational lensing. This pair of galaxy clusters have recently interacted, passing through each other. The hot, intracluster gas has been stripped out of the pair and shock-heated, so that it appears concentrated *between* the two galaxy clusters. The dark matter content of each cluster has sailed on oblivious and remains concentrated around the visible cluster galaxies.

[![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/XBVki.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/XBVki.png)

Yet another example would be [dwarf spheroidal galaxies](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwarf_spheroidal_galaxy), these are relatively small galaxies that are nevertheless almost [totally dominated by dark matter](https://arxiv.org/abs/0709.1510) - they have mass-to-light ratios of $\sim$1000, compared with a "normal" galaxy, where this ratio might be $\sim$ 10.

There are also examples of [dark galaxies](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_galaxy). These may not be galaxies made of non-baryonic dark matter, but dark matter in the sense that for whatever reason, these galaxies do not contain many bright stars. Thus although they may be massive, they do not emit much light and contain a lot of "inert", non-starforming gas.

> **Comments:**
> **username_3**: Thanks, @RobJeffries (seriously). I read the accepted answer, did a bit of research, and then came back to start writing my own long answer when I saw that you had already written one. You saved me some free time best put to other purposes.  
> **username_3**: This is a much better answer than is the accepted answer, @dllhell. I suggest you change your mind.  
> **username_4**: What a terrific answer--thank you @RobJeffries!  What does the apparent obliviousness of the bullet cluster's dark matter content say about how dark matter interacts with dark matter?  Was it previously known that it was so oblivious to its own kind in addition to normal matter?  
> **username_2**: @bRadGibson (but I guess, not THE Brad Gibson) it was already assumed that dark matter interacts very weakly with itself as well as normal matter. I don't think the Bullet cluster offers any new constraints, but I could be wrong.  

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### Answer by username_1 on 2016-12-22. Score: -2

Mass attracts mass, and so dark matter will attract normal matter and vice versa. However, people have looked for "dark lenses", so far without success.

Examples:

* <https://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0307381>
* <https://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0203061> ("dark" only in X-ray?)
* <https://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/9804136> (mostly "not a lens" rather than a dark one)
* <https://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0202360> discusses what a dark lens should look like

On the other side of the question, normal matter has a chance to cool and thus clump together more densely than is possible for dark matter. Hence, small-scale dense environments are dominated by normal matter.


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