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<li>It is clearly a disk galaxy since the Milky-Way is a stream across the sky and so we conclude that the Galaxy is a highly flattened structure.</li>
<li>We observe that external galaxies which are highly flattened are almost all spirals of some form. (Also the stellar populations and arrangement of globular clusters are similar to those of external spirals)</li>
<li><a href="http://astrobites.org/2015/07/03/mapping-the-milky-way/">Radio surveys/mapping radial velocities of molecular clouds</a> etc.</li>
<li>Other (which I'm sure other posters will expand on).</li>
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Conrad Turner
<p>You can see that the milky way appears as a stream across the night sky. We can calculate the distance between us and the stars in this stream, therefor we also know the distance between those stars (by using the Pythagorean algorithm for example). Because we now know the distance between them, we know their relative position of each other (by triangulation).</p>

<p>If you would then construct a 3D model by using these relative positions it would look like a spiral.</p>

<p>Edit: Here's a Kahn Academy video explaining how distance from earth to a star is calculated: <a href="https://www.khanacademy.org/science/cosmology-and-astronomy/stellar-life-topic/stellar-parallax-tutorial/v/stellar-distance-using-parallax?v=lVadjWOjvV8" rel="nofollow">Stellar distance using parallax</a></p>

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Stars aren't really used for mapping, since most of them are hidden in dust. Gas clouds are more easily observed.
pela
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Milan van Dijck
<p>To elaborate on Conrad Turner's excellent list:</p>

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<li><p>The disk structure is even more easily seen in the infrared, where dust extinction is much less than in the optical. See for instance this image from the <a href="http://www.ipac.caltech.edu/2mass/gallery/images_misc.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">2MASS infrared survey</a>:
<a href="https://i.sstatic.net/SV9Av.jpg" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/SV9Av.jpg" alt="2MASS"></a></p></li>
<li><p>Stars are not really (as Milan van Dijck suggests) used for mapping the spiral arms. Rather the gas clouds of gas in between stars are used, more specifically neutral hydrogen observed through its  21 cm observation. The figure below (from <a href="http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1959IAUS....9..409O" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Oort 1959</a>) shows the resulting map. As you can see, its not really as well-defined as seen in many artist's-conception pictures.
<a href="https://i.sstatic.net/Bb6TH.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/Bb6TH.png" alt="HI map"></a></p></li>
<li><p>Neutral hydrogen is fuel for stars. Massive stars ionize the gas around them, and since star formation mainly takes place in the spiral arms, the gas clouds are accompanied by pockets of ionized hydrogen, as seen in this map from <a href="http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1976A%26A....49...57G" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Georgelin &amp; Georgelin (1976)</a>:
<a href="https://i.sstatic.net/m5AJK.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/m5AJK.png" alt="HII map"></a></p></li>
<li><p>The physical properties of the Milky Way (stellar population, gas fraction, color, kinematics, etc.) are also similar to other spirals.</p></li>
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pela
<p>I know that our galaxy is spiral in shape, but I'm wondering how the scientists found out that our galaxy has a spiral shape.</p>

<p>I don't think we can see the entire galaxy from telescopes on Earth, right?</p>

<p>I think it makes sense that they say that Andromeda has a spiral shape because we can see the whole galaxy, but how do scientist know about our galaxy?</p>

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How do we know that our galaxy is a spiral galaxy?
JTR
# How do we know that our galaxy is a spiral galaxy?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2015-11-11)

I know that our galaxy is spiral in shape, but I'm wondering how the scientists found out that our galaxy has a spiral shape.

I don't think we can see the entire galaxy from telescopes on Earth, right?

I think it makes sense that they say that Andromeda has a spiral shape because we can see the whole galaxy, but how do scientist know about our galaxy?

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## 3 answers

### Answer by username_3 on 2015-11-11. Score: 9 | Accepted answer

To elaborate on Conrad Turner's excellent list:

5. The disk structure is even more easily seen in the infrared, where dust extinction is much less than in the optical. See for instance this image from the [2MASS infrared survey](http://www.ipac.caltech.edu/2mass/gallery/images_misc.html):
   [![2MASS](https://i.sstatic.net/SV9Av.jpg)](https://i.sstatic.net/SV9Av.jpg)
6. Stars are not really (as Milan van Dijck suggests) used for mapping the spiral arms. Rather the gas clouds of gas in between stars are used, more specifically neutral hydrogen observed through its 21 cm observation. The figure below (from [Oort 1959](http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1959IAUS....9..409O)) shows the resulting map. As you can see, its not really as well-defined as seen in many artist's-conception pictures.
   [![HI map](https://i.sstatic.net/Bb6TH.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/Bb6TH.png)
7. Neutral hydrogen is fuel for stars. Massive stars ionize the gas around them, and since star formation mainly takes place in the spiral arms, the gas clouds are accompanied by pockets of ionized hydrogen, as seen in this map from [Georgelin & Georgelin (1976)](http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1976A%26A....49...57G):
   [![HII map](https://i.sstatic.net/m5AJK.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/m5AJK.png)
8. The physical properties of the Milky Way (stellar population, gas fraction, color, kinematics, etc.) are also similar to other spirals.


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### Answer by username_1 on 2015-11-11. Score: 8

1. It is clearly a disk galaxy since the Milky-Way is a stream across the sky and so we conclude that the Galaxy is a highly flattened structure.
2. We observe that external galaxies which are highly flattened are almost all spirals of some form. (Also the stellar populations and arrangement of globular clusters are similar to those of external spirals)
3. [Radio surveys/mapping radial velocities of molecular clouds](http://astrobites.org/2015/07/03/mapping-the-milky-way/) etc.
4. Other (which I'm sure other posters will expand on).


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### Answer by username_2 on 2015-11-11. Score: -2

You can see that the milky way appears as a stream across the night sky. We can calculate the distance between us and the stars in this stream, therefor we also know the distance between those stars (by using the Pythagorean algorithm for example). Because we now know the distance between them, we know their relative position of each other (by triangulation).

If you would then construct a 3D model by using these relative positions it would look like a spiral.

Edit: Here's a Kahn Academy video explaining how distance from earth to a star is calculated: [Stellar distance using parallax](https://www.khanacademy.org/science/cosmology-and-astronomy/stellar-life-topic/stellar-parallax-tutorial/v/stellar-distance-using-parallax?v=lVadjWOjvV8)

> **Comments:**
> **username_3**: Stars aren't really used for mapping, since most of them are hidden in dust. Gas clouds are more easily observed.  

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