<p>No.</p>
<p>It isn't proven that any real orbital systems are stable on sufficiently long time scales.  Even our (single star) Solar System is not stable.  In their paper: On the Dynamical Stability of the Solar System, <a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/0804.1946" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Batygin and Laughlin</a>, use the numerical techniques pioneered by <a href="https://arxiv.org/search/?searchtype=author&amp;query=Laskar%2C%20J" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Laskar</a> to show scenarios in which various planets fall into the Sun or are ejected from our Solar System on a timescale of 20Gyr.</p>
<p>The area of math that dominates long term orbital stability questions is Chaos Theory, which studies the types of systems of differential equations for which very tiny changes in the initial conditions cause very different resultant solutions.  Over long time scales, tidal forces, stellar radiation, and other energy sources cause orbits to evolve.  When resonances are reached, orbits can begin to de-stabilize.  Examples of this can be found in the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirkwood_gap" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Kirkwood Gaps</a> of the asteroid belt.</p>
<p>Given the overwhelmingly high populations of binary star systems in the Milky Way (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_star" rel="nofollow noreferrer">table below from wikipedia</a>), we could probably call binary and single star systems stable at least at 10-100Gyr time scales.</p>
<p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/WuobQ.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/WuobQ.png" alt="enter image description here" /></a></p>
<p>However,<a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/1710.00766" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Correa-Otto and Gil-Hutton</a> point out that merely being in a galaxy causes binary orbits to be perturbed:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>The main influence of the Galaxy on the WBS [Wide Binary Star systems] are
twofold: first, the disruption of the binary system, which produces
gaps in the orbital elements distributions of the three sets; and
second, the changes in the orbital configuration of the surviving WBS,
which modify the orbital element distributions of the population in
each set.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Given the paucity of discovered n-star systems where n is greater than 2, I think we can safely say these systems are mostly unstable at timelines on the order of 1-10Gyrs. In fact, many of them are unstable on much shorter timelines.</p>

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I guess I wasn't clear.  I wasn't asking about planetary systems or asteroids; was asking about stellar systems.
S. McGrew
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When you talk about a solitary star "system", I assumed you included planets since the usual definition of an orbital system requires an orbiting body(s).  Or are you talking about the star's orbit around the galaxy center?
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<p>It is quite possible that binary stars average less stable than single stars, that trinary stars average less stable than binary stars, that quarternary stars average less stable than trinary stars, and so on.</p>
<p>But unless that prevents trinary or higher star system from remaining stable long enough to possibly have planets that become interesting from a science fiction point of view, will such lesser stability matter to most people?  It seems to me that most people will consider multiple star systems stable enough to last long enough to potentially be interesting from a science fiction perspective to be stable enough, no matter how much less stable they are than double or single stars.</p>
<p>The nearest star system, Alpha centauri, is triple.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Alpha Centauri A has 1.1 times the mass and 1.519 times the luminosity of the Sun, while Alpha Centauri B is smaller and cooler, at 0.907 times the Sun's mass and 0.445 times its luminosity.[16] The pair orbit around a common centre with an orbital period of 79.91 years.[17] Their elliptical orbit is eccentric, so that the distance between A and B varies from 35.6 AU (astronomical units), or about the distance between Pluto and the Sun, to 11.2 AU, or about the distance between Saturn and the Sun.</p>
</blockquote>
<blockquote>
<p>Alpha Centauri C, or Proxima Centauri, is a small and faint red dwarf (Class M). Though not visible to the naked eye, Proxima Centauri is the closest star to the Sun at a distance of 4.24 light-years (1.30 pc), slightly closer than Alpha Centauri AB. Currently, the distance between Proxima Centauri and Alpha Centauri AB is about 13,000 astronomical units (0.21 ly),[18] equivalent to about 430 times the radius of Neptune's orbit</p>
<p>Proxima Centauri has two planets: Proxima b, an Earth-sized exoplanet in the habitable zone discovered in 2016; and Proxima c, a super-Earth 1.5 AU away, which is possibly surrounded by a huge ring system, discovered in 2019. Alpha Centauri A may have a mid-sized planet in its habitable zone, Candidate 1, though it is not yet known to be planetary in nature and could be an artifact of the discovery mechanism. Alpha Centauri B has no known planets: planet Bb, purportedly discovered in 2012, was found to be an artifact, and a separate transiting planet has yet to be confirmed in nature.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>So the orbits of the Alpha Centauri stars around each other, and the orbits of at least two planets around one of the stars, have been reasonably stable without collisions or  ejections during the entire lifetime of the Alpha Centauri system.</p>
<p>The Alpha Centauri system is believed to be somewhat older than the 4.6 billion years of our solar system.</p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_Centauri%5B1%5D" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_Centauri[1]</a></p>
<p>Another famous and relatively close triple star system is 40 Eridani, also known as Omicron 2 Eridani.  40 Eridani A has a known planet.</p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/40_Eridani#Planetary_system%5B2%5D" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/40_Eridani#Planetary_system[2]</a></p>
<p>In 1991 Gene Roddenberry and two astronomers decided that 40 Eridani would be a suitable system for the fictional planet Vulcan to be in, since 40 Eridani is believed to be about 4 billion years old, almost as old as the Sun.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.sciencealert.com/star-trek-vulcan-exoplanet-40-eridani-a-hd-26965-super-earth-dharma-planet-survey%5B3%5D" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://www.sciencealert.com/star-trek-vulcan-exoplanet-40-eridani-a-hd-26965-super-earth-dharma-planet-survey[3]</a></p>
<p>So clearly some trinary star systems, presumably a minority of those that form, but possibly a majority of those existing at any one time, can be stable for the billions of years necessary to become interesting for science fiction purposes.  They can last long enough for life to possibly develope on their possible planets and to last the billions of years necessary for thoxe  planets to possibly becaome habitable for humans and/or evolve intelligent beings, and thus be interesting from a science fictional point of view.  And without colliding or ejecting any stars (unless they were originally more complex systems) and while retaining at least a few planets in stable orbits.</p>
<p>The Kepler-64 system is a quadruple or quartenary system with aplanet PH1b orbiting two of the stars.  The system is estimated to be about 2 billion years old, which is probably too young to be interesting from a science fiction prespective.</p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PH1b%5B4%5D" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PH1b[4]</a></p>
<p>It seems to me that most people will be content with multiple  star systems that remain stable long enough for their possible planets to possibly develop life, or even become habitable for humans, or even have intelligent life.  Lasting long enough to become interesting from a science fiction point of view should be stable enough for most people, even if trinary stars turn out to be much less stable than binary or single stars.</p>

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<p>Recently it has been shown that a <a href="https://phys.org/news/2021-02-binary-stars-solar-neighborhood.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">large number of binary stellar systems exist</a>.  It seems to me that the orbits of stars in systems containing three or more stars will inevitably be chaotic, resulting in either mergers or ejections.  Binary stellar systems, though, are effectively stable (neglecting the very slow decay of orbits due to gravitational radiation and perhaps tidal interactions).  So, it seems that in the long run we should expect most stellar systems to be either binary or solitary; the first due to ejection (eventually) of all but two of the stars from a multi-stellar system, and the second due to the ejection of single stars from multi-stellar systems.  Is this correct?</p>

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I would imagine that some trinary star systems (as well as binary) can be stable for a very long timescale compared to their expected close encounter with other star systems (depending on where they are in the galaxy) so not sure it is meaningful to talk of a "long run" as though all star systems evolved in isolation.
antlersoft
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Define stable   .
eps
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No. As the existing multiple star systems tell. But what is long? What is stable?
planetmaker
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see also http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/2001ASPC..229...77A
planetmaker
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The one and two body problems are stable, but the universe **does not have only 2 bodies**. A three body problem can be stable if some of the masses of bodies differ from others (i.e. a blue giant orbited by a binary of two red dwarfs)
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I think a lot of commenters may have missed "long run" and "most".  Agreed, "stable" is a slightly fuzzy concept, so maybe "relatively stable" would serve better?  The question is really directed at long-term evolution of multiple stellar systems.
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Is it correct to say that only binary and solitary star systems are stable?
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# Is it correct to say that only binary and solitary star systems are stable?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2021-02-23)

Recently it has been shown that a [large number of binary stellar systems exist](https://phys.org/news/2021-02-binary-stars-solar-neighborhood.html). It seems to me that the orbits of stars in systems containing three or more stars will inevitably be chaotic, resulting in either mergers or ejections. Binary stellar systems, though, are effectively stable (neglecting the very slow decay of orbits due to gravitational radiation and perhaps tidal interactions). So, it seems that in the long run we should expect most stellar systems to be either binary or solitary; the first due to ejection (eventually) of all but two of the stars from a multi-stellar system, and the second due to the ejection of single stars from multi-stellar systems. Is this correct?

**Tags:** astrophysics, binary-star, multiple-star-systems
> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: I would imagine that some trinary star systems (as well as binary) can be stable for a very long timescale compared to their expected close encounter with other star systems (depending on where they are in the galaxy) so not sure it is meaningful to talk of a "long run" as though all star systems evolved in isolation.  
> **username_2**: Define stable   .  
> **username_3**: No. As the existing multiple star systems tell. But what is long? What is stable?  
> **username_3**: see also http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/2001ASPC..229...77A  
> **username_4**: The one and two body problems are stable, but the universe **does not have only 2 bodies**. A three body problem can be stable if some of the masses of bodies differ from others (i.e. a blue giant orbited by a binary of two red dwarfs)  
> **username_0**: I think a lot of commenters may have missed "long run" and "most".  Agreed, "stable" is a slightly fuzzy concept, so maybe "relatively stable" would serve better?  The question is really directed at long-term evolution of multiple stellar systems.  

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_5 on 2021-02-23. Score: 1

No.

It isn't proven that any real orbital systems are stable on sufficiently long time scales. Even our (single star) Solar System is not stable. In their paper: On the Dynamical Stability of the Solar System, [Batygin and Laughlin](https://arxiv.org/abs/0804.1946), use the numerical techniques pioneered by [Laskar](https://arxiv.org/search/?searchtype=author&query=Laskar%2C%20J) to show scenarios in which various planets fall into the Sun or are ejected from our Solar System on a timescale of 20Gyr.

The area of math that dominates long term orbital stability questions is Chaos Theory, which studies the types of systems of differential equations for which very tiny changes in the initial conditions cause very different resultant solutions. Over long time scales, tidal forces, stellar radiation, and other energy sources cause orbits to evolve. When resonances are reached, orbits can begin to de-stabilize. Examples of this can be found in the [Kirkwood Gaps](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirkwood_gap) of the asteroid belt.

Given the overwhelmingly high populations of binary star systems in the Milky Way ([table below from wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_star)), we could probably call binary and single star systems stable at least at 10-100Gyr time scales.

[![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/WuobQ.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/WuobQ.png)

However,[Correa-Otto and Gil-Hutton](https://arxiv.org/abs/1710.00766) point out that merely being in a galaxy causes binary orbits to be perturbed:

> The main influence of the Galaxy on the WBS [Wide Binary Star systems] are
> twofold: first, the disruption of the binary system, which produces
> gaps in the orbital elements distributions of the three sets; and
> second, the changes in the orbital configuration of the surviving WBS,
> which modify the orbital element distributions of the population in
> each set.

Given the paucity of discovered n-star systems where n is greater than 2, I think we can safely say these systems are mostly unstable at timelines on the order of 1-10Gyrs. In fact, many of them are unstable on much shorter timelines.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: I guess I wasn't clear.  I wasn't asking about planetary systems or asteroids; was asking about stellar systems.  
> **username_5**: When you talk about a solitary star "system", I assumed you included planets since the usual definition of an orbital system requires an orbiting body(s).  Or are you talking about the star's orbit around the galaxy center?  

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### Answer by username_6 on 2021-02-23. Score: 1

It is quite possible that binary stars average less stable than single stars, that trinary stars average less stable than binary stars, that quarternary stars average less stable than trinary stars, and so on.

But unless that prevents trinary or higher star system from remaining stable long enough to possibly have planets that become interesting from a science fiction point of view, will such lesser stability matter to most people? It seems to me that most people will consider multiple star systems stable enough to last long enough to potentially be interesting from a science fiction perspective to be stable enough, no matter how much less stable they are than double or single stars.

The nearest star system, Alpha centauri, is triple.

> Alpha Centauri A has 1.1 times the mass and 1.519 times the luminosity of the Sun, while Alpha Centauri B is smaller and cooler, at 0.907 times the Sun's mass and 0.445 times its luminosity.[16] The pair orbit around a common centre with an orbital period of 79.91 years.[17] Their elliptical orbit is eccentric, so that the distance between A and B varies from 35.6 AU (astronomical units), or about the distance between Pluto and the Sun, to 11.2 AU, or about the distance between Saturn and the Sun.

> Alpha Centauri C, or Proxima Centauri, is a small and faint red dwarf (Class M). Though not visible to the naked eye, Proxima Centauri is the closest star to the Sun at a distance of 4.24 light-years (1.30 pc), slightly closer than Alpha Centauri AB. Currently, the distance between Proxima Centauri and Alpha Centauri AB is about 13,000 astronomical units (0.21 ly),[18] equivalent to about 430 times the radius of Neptune's orbit
>
> Proxima Centauri has two planets: Proxima b, an Earth-sized exoplanet in the habitable zone discovered in 2016; and Proxima c, a super-Earth 1.5 AU away, which is possibly surrounded by a huge ring system, discovered in 2019. Alpha Centauri A may have a mid-sized planet in its habitable zone, Candidate 1, though it is not yet known to be planetary in nature and could be an artifact of the discovery mechanism. Alpha Centauri B has no known planets: planet Bb, purportedly discovered in 2012, was found to be an artifact, and a separate transiting planet has yet to be confirmed in nature.

So the orbits of the Alpha Centauri stars around each other, and the orbits of at least two planets around one of the stars, have been reasonably stable without collisions or ejections during the entire lifetime of the Alpha Centauri system.

The Alpha Centauri system is believed to be somewhat older than the 4.6 billion years of our solar system.

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha\_Centauri[1]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_Centauri%5B1%5D)

Another famous and relatively close triple star system is 40 Eridani, also known as Omicron 2 Eridani. 40 Eridani A has a known planet.

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/40\_Eridani#Planetary\_system[2]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/40_Eridani#Planetary_system%5B2%5D)

In 1991 Gene Roddenberry and two astronomers decided that 40 Eridani would be a suitable system for the fictional planet Vulcan to be in, since 40 Eridani is believed to be about 4 billion years old, almost as old as the Sun.

[https://www.sciencealert.com/star-trek-vulcan-exoplanet-40-eridani-a-hd-26965-super-earth-dharma-planet-survey[3]](https://www.sciencealert.com/star-trek-vulcan-exoplanet-40-eridani-a-hd-26965-super-earth-dharma-planet-survey%5B3%5D)

So clearly some trinary star systems, presumably a minority of those that form, but possibly a majority of those existing at any one time, can be stable for the billions of years necessary to become interesting for science fiction purposes. They can last long enough for life to possibly develope on their possible planets and to last the billions of years necessary for thoxe planets to possibly becaome habitable for humans and/or evolve intelligent beings, and thus be interesting from a science fictional point of view. And without colliding or ejecting any stars (unless they were originally more complex systems) and while retaining at least a few planets in stable orbits.

The Kepler-64 system is a quadruple or quartenary system with aplanet PH1b orbiting two of the stars. The system is estimated to be about 2 billion years old, which is probably too young to be interesting from a science fiction prespective.

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PH1b[4]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PH1b%5B4%5D)

It seems to me that most people will be content with multiple star systems that remain stable long enough for their possible planets to possibly develop life, or even become habitable for humans, or even have intelligent life. Lasting long enough to become interesting from a science fiction point of view should be stable enough for most people, even if trinary stars turn out to be much less stable than binary or single stars.


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