<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tidal_locking" rel="noreferrer">Lunar synchronous rotation</a> is quite evident and a trivial logical step for any human being having a model of the Earth-Moon system that involves the Moon being a spherical object revolving around the Earth. This means that the first people to have a concept of the Moon as a spherical object almost certainly were the first ones to realize that for the Moon to always show the same features it must always be pointing the same face towards the Earth, and for that it must be revolving in such a way that its rotation gets exactly counteracted.</p>
<p>So, yes, this was discovered way before any person landed there, way before the space program itself, and even way before telescopes and astronomical observations in the XVI century. One of the earliest mentions of an Earth-Moon model that accounts for a spherical Moon revolving around Earth comes from <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploration_of_the_Moon#Before_spaceflight" rel="noreferrer">Anaxoras, almost 2500 years ago</a>. But this is probably and underestimate since there is an historic-observational bias, in the sense that many other ancient thinkers might have realized the same, even before, but we lack any documentation, which is also the reason for an ethnocentric bias, since not every culture writes and creates durable pieces of information. <strong>So your answer should be 2500 years ago, but probably even further</strong>.</p>
<p><strong>How further? Possibly prehistoric!</strong>
In fact this concept could have arisen even without considering the Moon as a sphere at all and even without considering the Moon as a body revolving around Earth. You only need a model that assumes that there is a relative motion between the Earth and the Moon (the Moon revolving around the Earth or the other way around is not relevant really), which is not very far fetched considering that the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebombo_bone" rel="noreferrer">monthly lunar cycle across the sky was common knowledge even when Neanderthals were around</a>. With that in mind, we should expect a change in persepective on how the Moon is seen as the relative positions between the Earth and the Moon change. But that change in the orientation of the view of the Moon is not present, thus there's only one possibility the Moon is counteracting that motion by rotating itself so that it always shows the same face. This is a simple observation that can be made with the naked eye and we don't mind if the Moon is a flat disc or a sphere, or a cylinder really, because in any case we are always seen the same characteristic topographic features since the dawn of our species. So, if humans could have made a direct naked-eye observation for this to be understood it is quite probable that they did, more so considering that the study of the Moon might have been very important for their survival (marking optimal periods for night-time hunting each month), so some interest on the issue might have been in place in many prehistoric cultures. The only way this could have never been adressed is if they avoided the actual observation that made their lifes easier or if they systematically ignored for millenia any mechanical explanation or though of this fact as a symbolic representation of something else obeying some non-conventional rules in a wildly exotic model of the Universe.</p>
<p>But if this is not true at least I find probable that the same ideas in Anaxagoras were shared by many others before, even centuries ago. For examplewe know that <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mochus" rel="noreferrer">Moschus of Sidon</a>, a Phoenitian philospher, apparently shared many of the &quot;modern&quot; ancient greek cosmological views, as far as 3400 years ago. His school of thought is recognized by the ancient greek atomists as their inspiration and that might have roots in more ancient civilizations (in the interface between the Paleolithic and Neolithic).</p>
<p><strong>Anyways, if what you are asking instead is how and when we realised the exact mechanism by which the Moon gained its synchronous rotation</strong>, then the answer is that the process was first correctly described by british astronomer <a href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Darwin" rel="noreferrer">George Darwin</a> (this is Charles Darwin son by the way) <a href="https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rstl.1879.0061" rel="noreferrer">in 1879</a>. But the main idea was really present as <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_theory#Newton" rel="noreferrer">early as Isaac Newton's work on his lunar theory</a>. So not only the fact that the Moon has the same rotational period as its orbital period was known long ago but also the exact way as to why this happened has been scientifically understood at least for 142 years now. This is 90 years before any human landed on the Moon and 78 years before even the Sputnik exited our world at the dawn of space exploration.</p>

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I've just asked a slightly different followup question and quoted you in it: [Was lunar libration first observed or first predicted? In either case, who was the responsible party?](https://astronomy.stackexchange.com/q/47579/7982)
uhoh
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Swike
<p>You use &quot;locked&quot; and you seem to think this means &quot;not rotating&quot;.  This is not true.</p>
<p>Find an open space.  Put something (eg a football) in the middle. Walk in a circle around the ball keeping your face towards the ball at all times.  (you will need to shuffle sideways to do this.)</p>
<p>Now pick a distant object (not the ball) and walk in a circle around the ball so that you are always facing this distant object. (you will sometimes be walking forwards, sometimes backwards, sometimes sideways)</p>
<p>In the first case you are <em>locked to the ball</em> and you are <em>not facing the distant object all the time</em> so you <em>are rotating</em>.</p>
<p>In the second case you are <em>not rotating</em>.</p>
<p>The only way that a body can orbit and always face inwards is for it to rotate.</p>

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<p>UTTER NONSENSE:</p>
<p>&quot;<em>Lunar synchronous rotation is quite evident and a trivial logical step for any human being having a model of the Earth-Moon system that involves the Moon being a spherical object revolving around the Earth. This means that the first people to have a concept of the Moon as a spherical object almost certainly were the first ones to realize that for the Moon to always show the same features it must always be pointing the same face towards the Earth, and for that it must be revolving in such a way that its rotation gets exactly counteracted</em>.&quot;</p>
<p>KEN:  'Synchronous Rotation Theory' is lunatic nonsense.</p>
<p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/rMWsC.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/rMWsC.png" alt="Earth-Moon-Sun orrery" /></a>
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<p>They have been making orreries for hundreds of years, and no orrery has their faux moons geared to rotate around their supporting metal spindles.</p>
<p>WHY?  There is no need!</p>

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But their support, the Moon's metal spindle, rotates around Earth.... and thus the Moon rotates. See the highly-upvoted comment on the original question with walking around a tree and always facing it. Think about it. Try it. This answer sadly is what you state in its initial two words.
planetmaker
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planetmaker:  "But their support, the Moon's metal spindle, rotates around Earth.... and thus the Moon rotates." 

You need to understand the difference between ROTATION and REVOLUTION in astronomy:

—snip—
ROTATION refers to a circular motion around an axis, located within the body of the object.

REVOLUTION means a circular motion around an axis, located outside the object.

https://keydifferences.com/difference-between-rotation-and-revolution.html#ComparisonChart

The faux moon in that orrery ONLY turns around an exterior axis!  Thus, it is ONLY revolving and not rotating!
Ken Dine
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1864: –– "Before closing the correspondence on this most interesting subject it may be as well to notice Sir John Herschel's illustration of axial rotation. He "plants a staff in the ground, and, grasping it in both hands, walks round it, keeping as close to it as possible, with his face always turned towards it.

"5. "Keeping as close to it as possible" is certainly the nearest approach to turning on his own axis, but until he is impaled on the stick and turned on it he does not revolve (mechanically speaking) on his own axis.

1865AReg....3...19. Page 19
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Ken Dine
<p>Since the moon's period of rotation around its own axis, and that of its revolution around earth is (almost) same, we always see only one side of moon. This is what was, &amp; is taught in schools. The question is: <strong>When and How</strong> did we (humans) realized that the moon is also rotating around its own axis? Was this known before the first man-made object touched moon soil?</p>

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This seems like a situation that a civilization knows once they figure out that the planet is spherical.
notovny
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Try walking all the way around a tree or a light pole while keeping your face turned toward the tree/pole the whole time. It's plainly obvious that the Moon keeps its "face" turned toward the Earth, so once you figure out that the Moon revolves around the Earth, the rest should be pretty obvious. So, yeah. A couple of thousand years before the first man-made object touched moon soil.
Solomon Slow
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I'm guessing more than 2000 years ago. The Greeks knew the Earth was spherical, and conjectured that the Sun, the Moon, and the planets were also spherical. The Greeks did not think of the Earth as a planet. And certainly, it was at least 400 years ago, when Copernicus, Kepler, Galileo, and others overturned the Greek concept of geocentricism.
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@David Hammen & Solomon Slow: You seem to be suggesting that the understanding of moon's rotation is historical and to some extent logically deduced based on the light pole example. However, the light pole example in fact should make us believe that the moon is NOT rotating, like the light pole is not rotating as all. While both the answers may be true in their own perception, I am looking forward to some more concrete scientific explanation.
Niranjan
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@Niranjan In the light pole example, the thing that's rotating is the face of the person walking around the pole, who's representing the Moon.
notovny
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@Notovny: Confusing. But anyway, I am trying to find out HOW and WHEN humans realized this... Perhaps explanation about measuring diameter of the moon without physically measuring it, have a scientific base and some historic record. I am looking for something similar on this issue. Thanks.
Niranjan
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Suspect the discovery of Libration would have made the lunar motion clearer but not finding any dates on that.
GremlinWranger
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Moon's rotation and revolution
Niranjan
# Moon's rotation and revolution

(Asked by: username_0 on 2021-06-11)

Since the moon's period of rotation around its own axis, and that of its revolution around earth is (almost) same, we always see only one side of moon. This is what was, & is taught in schools. The question is: **When and How** did we (humans) realized that the moon is also rotating around its own axis? Was this known before the first man-made object touched moon soil?

**Tags:** the-moon, tidal-locking
> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: This seems like a situation that a civilization knows once they figure out that the planet is spherical.  
> **username_2**: Try walking all the way around a tree or a light pole while keeping your face turned toward the tree/pole the whole time. It's plainly obvious that the Moon keeps its "face" turned toward the Earth, so once you figure out that the Moon revolves around the Earth, the rest should be pretty obvious. So, yeah. A couple of thousand years before the first man-made object touched moon soil.  
> **username_3**: I'm guessing more than 2000 years ago. The Greeks knew the Earth was spherical, and conjectured that the Sun, the Moon, and the planets were also spherical. The Greeks did not think of the Earth as a planet. And certainly, it was at least 400 years ago, when Copernicus, Kepler, Galileo, and others overturned the Greek concept of geocentricism.  
> **username_0**: @David Hammen & Solomon Slow: You seem to be suggesting that the understanding of moon's rotation is historical and to some extent logically deduced based on the light pole example. However, the light pole example in fact should make us believe that the moon is NOT rotating, like the light pole is not rotating as all. While both the answers may be true in their own perception, I am looking forward to some more concrete scientific explanation.  
> **username_1**: @Niranjan In the light pole example, the thing that's rotating is the face of the person walking around the pole, who's representing the Moon.  
> **username_0**: @Notovny: Confusing. But anyway, I am trying to find out HOW and WHEN humans realized this... Perhaps explanation about measuring diameter of the moon without physically measuring it, have a scientific base and some historic record. I am looking for something similar on this issue. Thanks.  
> **username_4**: Suspect the discovery of Libration would have made the lunar motion clearer but not finding any dates on that.  

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## 3 answers

### Answer by username_5 on 2021-06-15. Score: 5

[Lunar synchronous rotation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tidal_locking) is quite evident and a trivial logical step for any human being having a model of the Earth-Moon system that involves the Moon being a spherical object revolving around the Earth. This means that the first people to have a concept of the Moon as a spherical object almost certainly were the first ones to realize that for the Moon to always show the same features it must always be pointing the same face towards the Earth, and for that it must be revolving in such a way that its rotation gets exactly counteracted.

So, yes, this was discovered way before any person landed there, way before the space program itself, and even way before telescopes and astronomical observations in the XVI century. One of the earliest mentions of an Earth-Moon model that accounts for a spherical Moon revolving around Earth comes from [Anaxoras, almost 2500 years ago](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploration_of_the_Moon#Before_spaceflight). But this is probably and underestimate since there is an historic-observational bias, in the sense that many other ancient thinkers might have realized the same, even before, but we lack any documentation, which is also the reason for an ethnocentric bias, since not every culture writes and creates durable pieces of information. **So your answer should be 2500 years ago, but probably even further**.

**How further? Possibly prehistoric!**
In fact this concept could have arisen even without considering the Moon as a sphere at all and even without considering the Moon as a body revolving around Earth. You only need a model that assumes that there is a relative motion between the Earth and the Moon (the Moon revolving around the Earth or the other way around is not relevant really), which is not very far fetched considering that the [monthly lunar cycle across the sky was common knowledge even when Neanderthals were around](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebombo_bone). With that in mind, we should expect a change in persepective on how the Moon is seen as the relative positions between the Earth and the Moon change. But that change in the orientation of the view of the Moon is not present, thus there's only one possibility the Moon is counteracting that motion by rotating itself so that it always shows the same face. This is a simple observation that can be made with the naked eye and we don't mind if the Moon is a flat disc or a sphere, or a cylinder really, because in any case we are always seen the same characteristic topographic features since the dawn of our species. So, if humans could have made a direct naked-eye observation for this to be understood it is quite probable that they did, more so considering that the study of the Moon might have been very important for their survival (marking optimal periods for night-time hunting each month), so some interest on the issue might have been in place in many prehistoric cultures. The only way this could have never been adressed is if they avoided the actual observation that made their lifes easier or if they systematically ignored for millenia any mechanical explanation or though of this fact as a symbolic representation of something else obeying some non-conventional rules in a wildly exotic model of the Universe.

But if this is not true at least I find probable that the same ideas in Anaxagoras were shared by many others before, even centuries ago. For examplewe know that [Moschus of Sidon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mochus), a Phoenitian philospher, apparently shared many of the "modern" ancient greek cosmological views, as far as 3400 years ago. His school of thought is recognized by the ancient greek atomists as their inspiration and that might have roots in more ancient civilizations (in the interface between the Paleolithic and Neolithic).

**Anyways, if what you are asking instead is how and when we realised the exact mechanism by which the Moon gained its synchronous rotation**, then the answer is that the process was first correctly described by british astronomer [George Darwin](https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Darwin) (this is Charles Darwin son by the way) [in 1879](https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rstl.1879.0061). But the main idea was really present as [early as Isaac Newton's work on his lunar theory](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_theory#Newton). So not only the fact that the Moon has the same rotational period as its orbital period was known long ago but also the exact way as to why this happened has been scientifically understood at least for 142 years now. This is 90 years before any human landed on the Moon and 78 years before even the Sputnik exited our world at the dawn of space exploration.

> **Comments:**
> **username_6**: I've just asked a slightly different followup question and quoted you in it: [Was lunar libration first observed or first predicted? In either case, who was the responsible party?](https://astronomy.stackexchange.com/q/47579/7982)  

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### Answer by username_7 on 2022-09-11. Score: 2

You use "locked" and you seem to think this means "not rotating". This is not true.

Find an open space. Put something (eg a football) in the middle. Walk in a circle around the ball keeping your face towards the ball at all times. (you will need to shuffle sideways to do this.)

Now pick a distant object (not the ball) and walk in a circle around the ball so that you are always facing this distant object. (you will sometimes be walking forwards, sometimes backwards, sometimes sideways)

In the first case you are *locked to the ball* and you are *not facing the distant object all the time* so you *are rotating*.

In the second case you are *not rotating*.

The only way that a body can orbit and always face inwards is for it to rotate.


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### Answer by username_8 on 2022-09-07. Score: -8

UTTER NONSENSE:

"*Lunar synchronous rotation is quite evident and a trivial logical step for any human being having a model of the Earth-Moon system that involves the Moon being a spherical object revolving around the Earth. This means that the first people to have a concept of the Moon as a spherical object almost certainly were the first ones to realize that for the Moon to always show the same features it must always be pointing the same face towards the Earth, and for that it must be revolving in such a way that its rotation gets exactly counteracted*."

KEN: 'Synchronous Rotation Theory' is lunatic nonsense.

[![Earth-Moon-Sun orrery](https://i.sstatic.net/rMWsC.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/rMWsC.png)

They have been making orreries for hundreds of years, and no orrery has their faux moons geared to rotate around their supporting metal spindles.

WHY? There is no need!

> **Comments:**
> **username_9**: But their support, the Moon's metal spindle, rotates around Earth.... and thus the Moon rotates. See the highly-upvoted comment on the original question with walking around a tree and always facing it. Think about it. Try it. This answer sadly is what you state in its initial two words.  
> **username_8**: planetmaker:  "But their support, the Moon's metal spindle, rotates around Earth.... and thus the Moon rotates."   You need to understand the difference between ROTATION and REVOLUTION in astronomy:  —snip— ROTATION refers to a circular motion around an axis, located within the body of the object.  REVOLUTION means a circular motion around an axis, located outside the object.  https://keydifferences.com/difference-between-rotation-and-revolution.html#ComparisonChart  The faux moon in that orrery ONLY turns around an exterior axis!  Thus, it is ONLY revolving and not rotating!  
> **username_8**: 1864: –– "Before closing the correspondence on this most interesting subject it may be as well to notice Sir John Herschel's illustration of axial rotation. He "plants a staff in the ground, and, grasping it in both hands, walks round it, keeping as close to it as possible, with his face always turned towards it.  "5. "Keeping as close to it as possible" is certainly the nearest approach to turning on his own axis, but until he is impaled on the stick and turned on it he does not revolve (mechanically speaking) on his own axis.  1865AReg....3...19. Page 19  

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