<p><span class="math-container">$(B-V)_0$</span> is the intrinsic (unreddened) colour.</p>
<p>Reddening is not directly related to redshift because some of it occurs due to the dust in our Galaxy. Thus there is usually some reddening for nearby galaxies that depends on the sightline to them through our Galaxy.</p>
<p>The apparent magnitude does not equal the absolute magnitude at <span class="math-container">$z=0$</span>. Absolute magnitude is the apparent magnitude at 10 pc.</p>

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I think I was confusing rest-frame apparent&absolute magnitude (where z=0, and d=D for apparent and d=10 pc for absolute magitude), and observed-frame apparent&absolute magnitude (where z>0, but d=D for apparent and d=10 pc for absolute mag). Can you confirm it?
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<p>Following <a href="https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2010gfe..book.....M/abstract" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Mo et al. 2010</a> (page 479), the quantity <span class="math-container">$E(B-V)$</span>, called the color excess between B and V bands, is equal to:</p>
<p><span class="math-container">$$E(B-V) = A_B - A_V = (B - V) - (B - V)_0 = (m_B - m_V) - (M_B- M_V)$$</span></p>
<p>where <span class="math-container">$m_B, m_V$</span> are the apparent magnitude in B and V bands, and
<span class="math-container">$M_B, M_V$</span> are the absolute magnitude in B and V bands.</p>
<p>Keep in mind the relation between apparent and absolute magnitudes, with <span class="math-container">$d=10$</span> pc:</p>
<p><span class="math-container">$$m = M - 5 \log(d) + 5$$</span></p>
<p>If we are at redshift <span class="math-container">$z&gt;0$</span>, the color excess should be <span class="math-container">$E(B-V)&gt;0$</span>, because the extinction due to dust is greater in the B band than in the V band, and apparent magnitudes are greater than absolute magnitudes.</p>
<p>I'm wondering if it is correct to have <span class="math-container">$E(B-V)=0$</span> if the redshift is <span class="math-container">$z=0$</span> and <span class="math-container">$M=m$</span>. The apparent magnitude is equal to the absolute magnitude and the relation above mentioned should become:</p>
<p><span class="math-container">$$E(B-V) = A_B - A_V = (B - V) - (B - V)_0 = (m_B - m_V) - (M_B- M_V) = (M_B- M_V)_0 - (M_B- M_V)_0 = 0$$</span></p>
<p>Is that correct? Is it possible that we don't have color excess for galaxies at <span class="math-container">$z=0$</span>, what am I missing?</p>

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# E(B-V) , the color excess between B and V bands, for galaxy at redshift 0

(Asked by: username_0 on 2021-08-26)

Following [Mo et al. 2010](https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2010gfe..book.....M/abstract) (page 479), the quantity $E(B-V)$, called the color excess between B and V bands, is equal to:

$$E(B-V) = A\_B - A\_V = (B - V) - (B - V)\_0 = (m\_B - m\_V) - (M\_B- M\_V)$$

where $m\_B, m\_V$ are the apparent magnitude in B and V bands, and
$M\_B, M\_V$ are the absolute magnitude in B and V bands.

Keep in mind the relation between apparent and absolute magnitudes, with $d=10$ pc:

$$m = M - 5 \log(d) + 5$$

If we are at redshift $z>0$, the color excess should be $E(B-V)>0$, because the extinction due to dust is greater in the B band than in the V band, and apparent magnitudes are greater than absolute magnitudes.

I'm wondering if it is correct to have $E(B-V)=0$ if the redshift is $z=0$ and $M=m$. The apparent magnitude is equal to the absolute magnitude and the relation above mentioned should become:

$$E(B-V) = A\_B - A\_V = (B - V) - (B - V)\_0 = (m\_B - m\_V) - (M\_B- M\_V) = (M\_B- M\_V)\_0 - (M\_B- M\_V)\_0 = 0$$

Is that correct? Is it possible that we don't have color excess for galaxies at $z=0$, what am I missing?

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### Answer by username_2 on 2021-08-26. Score: 3

$(B-V)\_0$ is the intrinsic (unreddened) colour.

Reddening is not directly related to redshift because some of it occurs due to the dust in our Galaxy. Thus there is usually some reddening for nearby galaxies that depends on the sightline to them through our Galaxy.

The apparent magnitude does not equal the absolute magnitude at $z=0$. Absolute magnitude is the apparent magnitude at 10 pc.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: I think I was confusing rest-frame apparent&absolute magnitude (where z=0, and d=D for apparent and d=10 pc for absolute magitude), and observed-frame apparent&absolute magnitude (where z>0, but d=D for apparent and d=10 pc for absolute mag). Can you confirm it?  

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