<p>This is the Newtonian model of gravity. It is a very good model, it is used for accurate calculating the motion of objects in the solar system to a very high degree of accuracy.</p>
<p>However, for very strong gravitational fields you need to use Einstein's model, which accounts for things like the constant speed of light for all observers. I'm not going to go into mathematical details (not least because they are far to hard for me!)</p>
<p>Now you can calculate the gravity of a sphere and you find that at a radius of <span class="math-container">$r=2GM/c^2$</span> something strange seems to happen, nothing can travel from a radius of less than this to a radius of more.  It is the event horizon.  This can only happen in Einstein's theory of gravity.  Newtonian theory has no &quot;speed limit&quot; so there can be no event horizon.</p>
<p>Now it so happens that this is the same radius that Newtonian gravity would predict to have an escape velocity <span class="math-container">$v_e = \sqrt{\frac{2GM}{r}}$</span> equal to the speed of light.  That is mostly a coincidence(there was a recent question about this, that I haven't been able to find), but a neat one.</p>
<p>You seem to be comparing the Newtonian acceleration due to gravity with the speed of light.  The units of acceleration and speed are different, so the comparison is not valid.</p>

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Still it is cool . I was able to calculate the acceleration of the Sun to Alpha Centauri. It is fun if you play with them.
Helena Wells
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By the way, the separation of R and h is not really useful.  The only value you need is the  distance from the centre of the planet that is what I've called "r" in the answer
James K
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@JamesK - that formula is what is on the web page, for what it's worth.
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James K
<p>The calculator on the website <a href="https://planetcalc.com/1758/" rel="noreferrer">https://planetcalc.com/1758/</a> cites Wikipedia's <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_acceleration" rel="noreferrer">Gravitational acceleration</a> and implements:</p>
<p><span class="math-container">$$g = G \frac{M}{(R + h)^2}$$</span></p>
<p>For a black hole with mass <span class="math-container">$M$</span> equal to 5 solar masses with a diameter <span class="math-container">$R$</span> of 1 meter at a distance <span class="math-container">$h$</span> of 1500 km, the acceleration given is 296000 million m/s^2 which is nearly close to trap light.</p>
<p>So one might expect the event horizon to be at least close to that. Is this correct?</p>

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What do you mean by 1 meter? A black hole of 10 solar masses has a diameter of 60 km (Schwarzschild diameter).
Peter Mortensen
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I adjusted your format a bit and added the website's equation using [MathJax](https://math.meta.stackexchange.com/q/5020/284619). Please feel free to edit further. Thanks and welcome to Stack Exchange!
uhoh
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Since you're interested in black holes, you may enjoy playing with the [Hawking radiation calculator](https://www.vttoth.com/CMS/physics-notes/311-hawking-radiation-calculator).
PM 2Ring
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@PM2Ring Thank you.
Helena Wells
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You're mixing up acceleration and escape velocity.
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Have I nearly found the event horizon of a black hole?
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# Have I nearly found the event horizon of a black hole?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2020-08-02)

The calculator on the website <https://planetcalc.com/1758/> cites Wikipedia's [Gravitational acceleration](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_acceleration) and implements:

$$g = G \frac{M}{(R + h)^2}$$

For a black hole with mass $M$ equal to 5 solar masses with a diameter $R$ of 1 meter at a distance $h$ of 1500 km, the acceleration given is 296000 million m/s^2 which is nearly close to trap light.

So one might expect the event horizon to be at least close to that. Is this correct?

**Tags:** black-hole, gravity, astrophysics, general-relativity
> **Comments:**
> **username_2**: I adjusted your format a bit and added the website's equation using [MathJax](https://math.meta.stackexchange.com/q/5020/284619). Please feel free to edit further. Thanks and welcome to Stack Exchange!  
> **username_3**: Since you're interested in black holes, you may enjoy playing with the [Hawking radiation calculator](https://www.vttoth.com/CMS/physics-notes/311-hawking-radiation-calculator).  
> **username_0**: @PM2Ring Thank you.  
> **username_4**: You're mixing up acceleration and escape velocity.  
> **username_1**: What do you mean by 1 meter? A black hole of 10 solar masses has a diameter of 60 km (Schwarzschild diameter).  

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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_5 on 2020-08-02. Score: 17 | Accepted answer

This is the Newtonian model of gravity. It is a very good model, it is used for accurate calculating the motion of objects in the solar system to a very high degree of accuracy.

However, for very strong gravitational fields you need to use Einstein's model, which accounts for things like the constant speed of light for all observers. I'm not going to go into mathematical details (not least because they are far to hard for me!)

Now you can calculate the gravity of a sphere and you find that at a radius of $r=2GM/c^2$ something strange seems to happen, nothing can travel from a radius of less than this to a radius of more. It is the event horizon. This can only happen in Einstein's theory of gravity. Newtonian theory has no "speed limit" so there can be no event horizon.

Now it so happens that this is the same radius that Newtonian gravity would predict to have an escape velocity $v\_e = \sqrt{\frac{2GM}{r}}$ equal to the speed of light. That is mostly a coincidence(there was a recent question about this, that I haven't been able to find), but a neat one.

You seem to be comparing the Newtonian acceleration due to gravity with the speed of light. The units of acceleration and speed are different, so the comparison is not valid.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: Still it is cool . I was able to calculate the acceleration of the Sun to Alpha Centauri. It is fun if you play with them.  
> **username_5**: By the way, the separation of R and h is not really useful.  The only value you need is the  distance from the centre of the planet that is what I've called "r" in the answer  
> **username_6**: @JamesK - that formula is what is on the web page, for what it's worth.  

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