<p>I fixed it. Wikipedia is my first go to source for just about anything, but, I am also aware that the articles are crowd sourced, so, I also check the article's sources while I'm at it to verify accuracy. I have also edited and created a few articles in Wikipedia. So, the Axial tilt article sources NASA fact sheets for the table of tilts, I also found one or two other sources that agree, probably because they cite NASA. The table in the Orbital inclination article did not cite any sources for the Sun's equator column, so using the same NASA source, I fixed the number for Sun's equator to the ecliptic entry.
If I can find a reliable source for the Sun's equator to the other planets, I'll fix them also, if necessary. That doens't seem to be important in the NASA data.
That particular table is a template table that is used in a number of articles, so, when I fixed it, it propagated to all included articles.</p>

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2024-01-22T12:26:24.753Z
The 7.25° value is also consistent with the 286.13° right ascension and 63.87° declination of the Sun's north pole at epoch J2000. Those values are nearly beyond reproach as they're from the IAU; see the reference @GregMiller posted in a comment to the question.
David Hammen
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2024-01-22T12:36:42.403Z
Note: The Wikipedia page on the [Earth](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth) still lists the inclination of the Earth's orbit to the Sun's equatorial plane as an unreferenced 7.155°. Fixing the huge number of inconsistencies across Wikipedia pages is a never-ending task. But thanks for fixing that one value, and thereby fixing the cross references across Wikipedia pages.
David Hammen
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2024-01-21T04:17:07.580Z
2024-01-21T04:20:46.633Z
2024-01-21T04:20:46.633Z
Pogo
<p>On <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axial_tilt" rel="nofollow noreferrer">the Wikipedia article for axial tilt</a> the Solar axial tilt is listed as 7.25° to the ecliptic, whereas on <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_inclination" rel="nofollow noreferrer">the Wikipedia article of orbital inclination</a> Earth is listed as having an orbital inclination of 7.155° to the Solar equator; to me this does not add up, because unless I'm entirely mistaken these two are exactly equivalent to one another.</p>
<p>So, am I missing something here, or is one (or both) of those values outdated or incorrect?</p>

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2024-01-19T13:42:18.657Z
7.25 sounds like it was rounded to the nearest quarter of a degree.  A more authoritative source is the IAU Working Group on Cartographic Coordinates: https://astropedia.astrogeology.usgs.gov/download/Docs/WGCCRE/WGCCRE2009reprint.pdf
Greg Miller
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2024-01-19T14:01:03.320Z
@GregMiller: That was one of my first thoughts too; however, a recent question of mine got this answer, where those very coordinates you just provided were converted to ecliptic coordinates, and shows the Solar north pole to have an ecliptic latitude of 82.75°, which is indeed equivalent to 7.25° of axial tilt if I'm not mistaken.
Outis Nemo
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2024-01-19T15:15:24.677Z
Hmm, I too get 7.25.  Since neither cite a source, it's a good example as to why Wikipedia should only be used as a guide and not a reference.
Greg Miller
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2024-01-19T15:15:52.393Z
It's Wikipedia, for crying out loud. Wikipedia is chock-full of contradictory information. The 7.25° value is well-sourced and is consistent with multiple non-wikipedia reliable sources. The 7.155° value is unsourced, but is replicated on the Wikipedia article on the Earth. Welcome to Wikipedia!
David Hammen
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2024-01-19T15:27:37.857Z
One possible explanation is that some Wikipedia editor mistyped what should have been 7.255° obtained from some semi-reliable external source as 7.155°, and then that value propagated across multiple Wikipedia pages.
David Hammen
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2024-01-19T17:21:46.083Z
@DavidHammen: I'm also assuming that, which is why I'm asking to confirm that those two values should in fact be the same, and that there's not something fundamental about celestial mechanics that I've missed.
Outis Nemo
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2024-01-20T15:11:28.287Z
@OutisNemo You haven't missed anything. The two numbers should be the same.
David Hammen
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Why do these two sources list different values for the Solar axial tilt to the ecliptic and Earth's orbital inclination to the Solar equator?
Outis Nemo
# Why do these two sources list different values for the Solar axial tilt to the ecliptic and Earth's orbital inclination to the Solar equator?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2024-01-19)

On [the Wikipedia article for axial tilt](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axial_tilt) the Solar axial tilt is listed as 7.25° to the ecliptic, whereas on [the Wikipedia article of orbital inclination](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_inclination) Earth is listed as having an orbital inclination of 7.155° to the Solar equator; to me this does not add up, because unless I'm entirely mistaken these two are exactly equivalent to one another.

So, am I missing something here, or is one (or both) of those values outdated or incorrect?

**Tags:** solar-system, celestial-mechanics, earths-orbit, axial-tilt, orbital-inclination
> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: 7.25 sounds like it was rounded to the nearest quarter of a degree.  A more authoritative source is the IAU Working Group on Cartographic Coordinates: https://astropedia.astrogeology.usgs.gov/download/Docs/WGCCRE/WGCCRE2009reprint.pdf  
> **username_0**: @GregMiller: That was one of my first thoughts too; however, a recent question of mine got this answer, where those very coordinates you just provided were converted to ecliptic coordinates, and shows the Solar north pole to have an ecliptic latitude of 82.75°, which is indeed equivalent to 7.25° of axial tilt if I'm not mistaken.  
> **username_1**: Hmm, I too get 7.25.  Since neither cite a source, it's a good example as to why Wikipedia should only be used as a guide and not a reference.  
> **username_2**: It's Wikipedia, for crying out loud. Wikipedia is chock-full of contradictory information. The 7.25° value is well-sourced and is consistent with multiple non-wikipedia reliable sources. The 7.155° value is unsourced, but is replicated on the Wikipedia article on the Earth. Welcome to Wikipedia!  
> **username_2**: One possible explanation is that some Wikipedia editor mistyped what should have been 7.255° obtained from some semi-reliable external source as 7.155°, and then that value propagated across multiple Wikipedia pages.  
> **username_0**: @DavidHammen: I'm also assuming that, which is why I'm asking to confirm that those two values should in fact be the same, and that there's not something fundamental about celestial mechanics that I've missed.  
> **username_2**: @OutisNemo You haven't missed anything. The two numbers should be the same.  

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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_3 on 2024-01-21. Score: 2 | Accepted answer

I fixed it. Wikipedia is my first go to source for just about anything, but, I am also aware that the articles are crowd sourced, so, I also check the article's sources while I'm at it to verify accuracy. I have also edited and created a few articles in Wikipedia. So, the Axial tilt article sources NASA fact sheets for the table of tilts, I also found one or two other sources that agree, probably because they cite NASA. The table in the Orbital inclination article did not cite any sources for the Sun's equator column, so using the same NASA source, I fixed the number for Sun's equator to the ecliptic entry.
If I can find a reliable source for the Sun's equator to the other planets, I'll fix them also, if necessary. That doens't seem to be important in the NASA data.
That particular table is a template table that is used in a number of articles, so, when I fixed it, it propagated to all included articles.

> **Comments:**
> **username_2**: The 7.25° value is also consistent with the 286.13° right ascension and 63.87° declination of the Sun's north pole at epoch J2000. Those values are nearly beyond reproach as they're from the IAU; see the reference @GregMiller posted in a comment to the question.  
> **username_2**: Note: The Wikipedia page on the [Earth](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth) still lists the inclination of the Earth's orbit to the Sun's equatorial plane as an unreferenced 7.155°. Fixing the huge number of inconsistencies across Wikipedia pages is a never-ending task. But thanks for fixing that one value, and thereby fixing the cross references across Wikipedia pages.  

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