<p>Stars turn into Red Giants not because they're running out of fuel, but because they're accumulating material they can't use for fusion (yet) in the core. The star isn't so much dying of starvation as it is wallowing in its own muck.</p>

<p>Red giants form when the fusion is no longer taking place in the centre of the star, but instead in a shell around the centre. The centre is filled up with the products of fusion, which themselves cannot fuse until temperatures and pressures get high enough. The exact reason why this results in red giant formation eludes me still, but you'll find plenty of questions asking about it on this SE.</p>

<p>Furthermore, most stars that are larger than red dwarfs never fully use up their fuel. There is often plenty of hydrogen in the outer reaches of the star, way more than you'll find in Jupiter (which, as zeta-band mentions, is only about 1/1000th the mass of a sun-mass star). </p>

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FWIW, according to [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star#Main_sequence) a star around the mass of the Sun will burn roughly 10% of its hydrogen supply while on the Main Sequence.
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So giving the thing a really good stirring *might* work.
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Siphoning off the core helium would be your best bet. However the other end of the hose would have to be in a *deeper* gravitational potential well, and you'd need a mighty good pair of lungs to get the process started.
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<p>The core regions of stars that become red giants are not convective. and so do not mix with outer layers. Hence "muck" can accumulate ie. helium rich /hydrogen poor core, surrounded by shell "burning' hydrogen. This shell and core transport energy by radiation not convection. This also means that the core where it is hot enough to fuse hydrogen can not access the supply of hydrogen in the upper cooler region that transports heat by convection. Convection dominates because the gas is cooler.</p>

<p>The other aspect is that the mass of any planets than the star. Stars with masses 0.3 to 8 solar masses go through a red giant phase. The core mass is in the range 0.6 to 1.4 solar masses. <a href="https://www.astro.princeton.edu/~gk/A403/rg.pdf" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Princeton notes on red giants. Maths of core-mass luminosity see equation 2.21</a>Jupiter for example is 0.001 of a solar mass. So even if the hydrogen from a giant planet did get mixed to the core it wouldn't make much difference. </p>

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<p>Many hot jupiter type exoplanets have been found, orbiting near their parent stars.</p>

<p>At the end of a stars life, they swell up and sometimes envelop closely orbiting bodies.</p>

<p>Combine these effects and what could/would happen? Could the unfused hydrogen of a gas giant be dragged into the stars core and end up rejuvinating the star and extend its lifetime? Have these conditions been contemplated before? What might be expected to happen? Or is the environment of a stars outer layers just not dense enough to keep a gas giant from just continuing in its orbit?</p>

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I'd bet that the amount of mass in a Jovian style planet is much too small to change the evolution of a star.  Jupiter is .001 times the mass of the sun and that doesn't seem like it would change much once the sun left the main sequence.
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Can a dying, swelling, star be rejuvinated by enveloping orbiting gas giants?
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# Can a dying, swelling, star be rejuvinated by enveloping orbiting gas giants?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2019-10-30)

Many hot jupiter type exoplanets have been found, orbiting near their parent stars.

At the end of a stars life, they swell up and sometimes envelop closely orbiting bodies.

Combine these effects and what could/would happen? Could the unfused hydrogen of a gas giant be dragged into the stars core and end up rejuvinating the star and extend its lifetime? Have these conditions been contemplated before? What might be expected to happen? Or is the environment of a stars outer layers just not dense enough to keep a gas giant from just continuing in its orbit?

**Tags:** star, gas-giants, hot-jupiter
> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: I'd bet that the amount of mass in a Jovian style planet is much too small to change the evolution of a star.  Jupiter is .001 times the mass of the sun and that doesn't seem like it would change much once the sun left the main sequence.  

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_2 on 2019-10-31. Score: 7

Stars turn into Red Giants not because they're running out of fuel, but because they're accumulating material they can't use for fusion (yet) in the core. The star isn't so much dying of starvation as it is wallowing in its own muck.

Red giants form when the fusion is no longer taking place in the centre of the star, but instead in a shell around the centre. The centre is filled up with the products of fusion, which themselves cannot fuse until temperatures and pressures get high enough. The exact reason why this results in red giant formation eludes me still, but you'll find plenty of questions asking about it on this SE.

Furthermore, most stars that are larger than red dwarfs never fully use up their fuel. There is often plenty of hydrogen in the outer reaches of the star, way more than you'll find in Jupiter (which, as zeta-band mentions, is only about 1/1000th the mass of a sun-mass star).

> **Comments:**
> **username_3**: FWIW, according to [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star#Main_sequence) a star around the mass of the Sun will burn roughly 10% of its hydrogen supply while on the Main Sequence.  
> **username_4**: So giving the thing a really good stirring *might* work.  
> **username_2**: Siphoning off the core helium would be your best bet. However the other end of the hose would have to be in a *deeper* gravitational potential well, and you'd need a mighty good pair of lungs to get the process started.  

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### Answer by username_5 on 2019-11-06. Score: 0

The core regions of stars that become red giants are not convective. and so do not mix with outer layers. Hence "muck" can accumulate ie. helium rich /hydrogen poor core, surrounded by shell "burning' hydrogen. This shell and core transport energy by radiation not convection. This also means that the core where it is hot enough to fuse hydrogen can not access the supply of hydrogen in the upper cooler region that transports heat by convection. Convection dominates because the gas is cooler.

The other aspect is that the mass of any planets than the star. Stars with masses 0.3 to 8 solar masses go through a red giant phase. The core mass is in the range 0.6 to 1.4 solar masses. [Princeton notes on red giants. Maths of core-mass luminosity see equation 2.21](https://www.astro.princeton.edu/~gk/A403/rg.pdf)Jupiter for example is 0.001 of a solar mass. So even if the hydrogen from a giant planet did get mixed to the core it wouldn't make much difference.


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