<p>I just wonder if anyone could shed any light on this puzzle.</p>

<p>Two nights ago whilst I was out photographing the Lyrids meteor shower from the UK something else showed up on my images when I checked them the next morning. All images were 30-second exposures at ISO 2000 shot throughout the whole night with the intervalometer. It takes roughly two minutes for a satellite to pass through an image, so that's four images which you can see when viewing the images.</p>

<p>This started just after <code>01:00</code> and disappeared from the frame at <code>01:25</code>.</p>

<p>Upon going through further I have a small speck starting from the top of image which continues through the image for 41 images; doing the maths, that's 20 minutes of something passing through the sky slowly.</p>

<p>It never continued all the way through, just slowly got darker. I was obviously set up towards the star Vega and the Lyra constellation. Any help would be greatly appreciated.</p>

<p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/h3Gxg.jpg" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/h3Gxg.jpg" alt="slow moving object over 20 minutes exposure"></a></p>

<p>Cropped and rotated, showing broken trail:</p>

<p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/VzHQe.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/VzHQe.png" alt="slow moving object over 20 minutes exposure cropped and rotated, showing broken trail"></a></p>

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2020-04-24T17:27:39.913Z
See https://heavens-above.com/AllSats.aspx for your location.
Mike G
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2020-04-24T18:48:50.520Z
thanks for that mike. I couldnt seem to track back earlier than 3.30am.this pass happened at just after 1am in my view and went out of vision in the frame at 1.25 am.whatevr it was was extremely slow.do you have any suggestions yourself what this may have been
Harvey Shelley
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2020-04-24T23:20:41.813Z
It could be a satellite in high orbit.
Mike G
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2020-04-25T04:37:31.807Z
I've made some small edits please check. It's probably a silly question but are those times the same in UTC? Would you estimate the speed at about 1 degree per minute, or could you come up with a better number? Could you also mention the focal length and aperture of your lens? As mentioned in the other comment there are some slow moving satellites in high orbits but they would have to be quite high to move so slowly and therefore far away and dim. It could also plausibly be a near earth asteroid (since they're larger and potentially brighter but that would be something we'd read about.
uhoh
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2020-04-25T04:40:28.653Z
Also, you posted this question at `2020-04-24 16:35 UTC` (Friday) and you say it was "two nights ago". Does that mean that you first recorded the object at about `2020-04-23 01:00 UTC` i.e. Wednesday night/Thursday morning?
uhoh
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2020-04-25T08:22:04.020Z
hi there, yes your dates are correct and time.In terms of degrees a minute I am not to sure. I shot on a canon 5dmk 2, so a full frame camera at 24mm and 2.8 f. Last night I made a composite of the 41 images to see the final pass. Whatever it appears to be it does show very visible curvature, im not sure what that would mean, im guessing just that its higher up. On my 24mm image it still only goes through around a third of the image from top to bottom. Its starts from slightly to the left of Zeta Draconis and goes out of sight at next to HR 7187. Hope this can help you and other people
Harvey Shelley
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2020-04-25T21:25:49.087Z
Iv just been trying to find some more research and came across this. Does anyone think this may be what I have caught ? Any suggestions or help would be much appreciated.https://www.virtualtelescope.eu/2020/04/24/near-earth-asteroid-2020-hx3-very-close-encounter-a-exceptional-image-24-apr-2020/
Harvey Shelley
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2020-04-26T02:55:27.717Z
@HarveyShelley thanks for your reply, I'll look into this further... btw if you have a look at [How do comment @replies work?](https://meta.stackexchange.com/q/43019/303080) (found in [metaFAQ](https://meta.stackexchange.com/q/7931/303080)) you can see that if you add the `@` followed by a user name (keep an eye out for the autocomplete option) then that user will receive a notification of your reply. I found your comments now only because I happened to stop by, and they are very helpful!
uhoh
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2020-04-28T19:50:35.030Z
@uhoh I had a look back on sky safari and other apps around this time to see if anything passed through and nothing at all passed through, would just be good for someone to be able to identify what this was.
Harvey Shelley
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2020-04-28T21:20:26.643Z
@HarveyShelley thanks for the ping and the reminder! Okay I'll get on it today.
uhoh
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2020-04-29T07:15:04.827Z
@uhoh also had a final image which I cant yet attach on here. thanks
Harvey Shelley
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2020-04-29T08:40:22.437Z
@HarveyShelley wow that would be incredibly useful to see! If you can leave a comment with a link to say imgur.com or some other media site, someone here can add it to your question perhaps. You don't have access to this yet?  https://i.sstatic.net/xgu4V.png
uhoh
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2020-04-29T12:24:53.453Z
@uhoh . so going through your instructions I managed to attach a low res image of it, in the top original post! So if you zoom in on the image you can see where the breaks where between the 30 sec exposures and how also there is curvature in the streak whereas all satellites iv photod before travel dead straight and go through the image frame roughly in 2 minutes. let me know if you cant see this. thanks
Harvey Shelley
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2020-04-29T13:14:55.837Z
@HarveyShelley you may find this interesting if you'd like to get exact RA/Dec or Alt/Az from all of these stars: [How (the heck) does Astrometry.net work?](https://astronomy.stackexchange.com/q/33575/7982) However it's hard to imagine that those star trails represent 20 minutes of exposure! In 20 minutes the stars should move about 5 degrees relative to foreground and in this photo the stars and the foreground (roof and *shadow of tree*) are both clear meaning you didn't track for 20 minutes. This looks more like a short meteor photo with a chopping wheel to measure the speed of the meteor.
uhoh
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2020-04-29T13:40:28.030Z
@uhoh . So I understand what you are saying about no star trials, correct there is no movement in the stars. I used the first starting image as the base and then layered the additional 40 images only painting in the streak throughout the rest of the sequence until it gradually faded away,
Harvey Shelley
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2020-04-29T13:52:04.747Z
I think I understand in principle what you are saying but wow it's hard to imagine how one does that in practice and still get such a nice looking seamless and artifact-less composite image. btw there is also [Photography SE](https://photo.stackexchange.com/) with an active astrophotography community. This question is certainly okay here but you may enjoy checking out that site as well.
uhoh
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2020-04-29T14:11:29.323Z
@uhoh ill have a look at what you suggested and see if anyone else can help. I see I should probably be extending this convo in chat anyway. So being restricted to the garden, I had to position where lyra would pass over my garden to capture initially the meteors.I wasn't using a trakker hence there should have been star trails in twenty minutes if one exposure. I basically opened each image one by one in photoshop masking them as layers only painting the streak back to the image, hence no movement in stars. choice of what you thought it was, what would you suggest or could you not say
Harvey Shelley
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Help identifying a very slow-moving object during meteor shower photography
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# Help identifying a very slow-moving object during meteor shower photography

(Asked by: username_0 on 2020-04-24)

I just wonder if anyone could shed any light on this puzzle.

Two nights ago whilst I was out photographing the Lyrids meteor shower from the UK something else showed up on my images when I checked them the next morning. All images were 30-second exposures at ISO 2000 shot throughout the whole night with the intervalometer. It takes roughly two minutes for a satellite to pass through an image, so that's four images which you can see when viewing the images.

This started just after `01:00` and disappeared from the frame at `01:25`.

Upon going through further I have a small speck starting from the top of image which continues through the image for 41 images; doing the maths, that's 20 minutes of something passing through the sky slowly.

It never continued all the way through, just slowly got darker. I was obviously set up towards the star Vega and the Lyra constellation. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[![slow moving object over 20 minutes exposure](https://i.sstatic.net/h3Gxg.jpg)](https://i.sstatic.net/h3Gxg.jpg)

Cropped and rotated, showing broken trail:

[![slow moving object over 20 minutes exposure cropped and rotated, showing broken trail](https://i.sstatic.net/VzHQe.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/VzHQe.png)

**Tags:** planet, solar-system, asteroids, natural-satellites
> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: See https://heavens-above.com/AllSats.aspx for your location.  
> **username_0**: thanks for that mike. I couldnt seem to track back earlier than 3.30am.this pass happened at just after 1am in my view and went out of vision in the frame at 1.25 am.whatevr it was was extremely slow.do you have any suggestions yourself what this may have been  
> **username_1**: It could be a satellite in high orbit.  
> **username_2**: I've made some small edits please check. It's probably a silly question but are those times the same in UTC? Would you estimate the speed at about 1 degree per minute, or could you come up with a better number? Could you also mention the focal length and aperture of your lens? As mentioned in the other comment there are some slow moving satellites in high orbits but they would have to be quite high to move so slowly and therefore far away and dim. It could also plausibly be a near earth asteroid (since they're larger and potentially brighter but that would be something we'd read about.  
> **username_2**: Also, you posted this question at `2020-04-24 16:35 UTC` (Friday) and you say it was "two nights ago". Does that mean that you first recorded the object at about `2020-04-23 01:00 UTC` i.e. Wednesday night/Thursday morning?  
> **username_0**: hi there, yes your dates are correct and time.In terms of degrees a minute I am not to sure. I shot on a canon 5dmk 2, so a full frame camera at 24mm and 2.8 f. Last night I made a composite of the 41 images to see the final pass. Whatever it appears to be it does show very visible curvature, im not sure what that would mean, im guessing just that its higher up. On my 24mm image it still only goes through around a third of the image from top to bottom. Its starts from slightly to the left of Zeta Draconis and goes out of sight at next to HR 7187. Hope this can help you and other people  
> **username_0**: Iv just been trying to find some more research and came across this. Does anyone think this may be what I have caught ? Any suggestions or help would be much appreciated.https://www.virtualtelescope.eu/2020/04/24/near-earth-asteroid-2020-hx3-very-close-encounter-a-exceptional-image-24-apr-2020/  
> **username_2**: @HarveyShelley thanks for your reply, I'll look into this further... btw if you have a look at [How do comment @replies work?](https://meta.stackexchange.com/q/43019/303080) (found in [metaFAQ](https://meta.stackexchange.com/q/7931/303080)) you can see that if you add the `@` followed by a user name (keep an eye out for the autocomplete option) then that user will receive a notification of your reply. I found your comments now only because I happened to stop by, and they are very helpful!  
> **username_0**: @uhoh I had a look back on sky safari and other apps around this time to see if anything passed through and nothing at all passed through, would just be good for someone to be able to identify what this was.  
> **username_2**: @HarveyShelley thanks for the ping and the reminder! Okay I'll get on it today.  
> **username_0**: @uhoh also had a final image which I cant yet attach on here. thanks  
> **username_2**: @HarveyShelley wow that would be incredibly useful to see! If you can leave a comment with a link to say imgur.com or some other media site, someone here can add it to your question perhaps. You don't have access to this yet?  https://i.sstatic.net/xgu4V.png  
> **username_0**: @uhoh . so going through your instructions I managed to attach a low res image of it, in the top original post! So if you zoom in on the image you can see where the breaks where between the 30 sec exposures and how also there is curvature in the streak whereas all satellites iv photod before travel dead straight and go through the image frame roughly in 2 minutes. let me know if you cant see this. thanks  
> **username_2**: @HarveyShelley you may find this interesting if you'd like to get exact RA/Dec or Alt/Az from all of these stars: [How (the heck) does Astrometry.net work?](https://astronomy.stackexchange.com/q/33575/7982) However it's hard to imagine that those star trails represent 20 minutes of exposure! In 20 minutes the stars should move about 5 degrees relative to foreground and in this photo the stars and the foreground (roof and *shadow of tree*) are both clear meaning you didn't track for 20 minutes. This looks more like a short meteor photo with a chopping wheel to measure the speed of the meteor.  
> **username_0**: @uhoh . So I understand what you are saying about no star trials, correct there is no movement in the stars. I used the first starting image as the base and then layered the additional 40 images only painting in the streak throughout the rest of the sequence until it gradually faded away,  
> **username_2**: I think I understand in principle what you are saying but wow it's hard to imagine how one does that in practice and still get such a nice looking seamless and artifact-less composite image. btw there is also [Photography SE](https://photo.stackexchange.com/) with an active astrophotography community. This question is certainly okay here but you may enjoy checking out that site as well.  
> **username_0**: @uhoh ill have a look at what you suggested and see if anyone else can help. I see I should probably be extending this convo in chat anyway. So being restricted to the garden, I had to position where lyra would pass over my garden to capture initially the meteors.I wasn't using a trakker hence there should have been star trails in twenty minutes if one exposure. I basically opened each image one by one in photoshop masking them as layers only painting the streak back to the image, hence no movement in stars. choice of what you thought it was, what would you suggest or could you not say  

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