<p>What's missing from the above explanations is what is really going on that causes any kind of explosion at all.</p>

<p>I'm going to steal from xkcd to help with this:</p>

<p><a href="https://what-if.xkcd.com/73/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://what-if.xkcd.com/73/</a></p>

<p>And here's an article from the Max Planck Institute that talks in depth about the nature of the neutrino aspect:</p>

<p><a href="https://www.mpg.de/11368641/neutrinos-supernovae" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://www.mpg.de/11368641/neutrinos-supernovae</a></p>

<p>Ultimately, when the star is in it's dying moments, it starts emitting neutrinos.  A lot of neutrinos... with a lot of energy.  Now, I'm sure you're thinking "what would that do... they don't weigh much of anything".  But this is literally like being buried in a football stadium with ants... there are so many neutrinos packing so much energy that they literally cause the outer matter of the star to be blown outwards with large enough energy to carry it away from the gravity well of the remaining matter.</p>

<p>Ah... but how does any matter remain?  Because close to the center, the gravity well is deepest, and also close to the center any particle (nucleus/neutron) is being bombarded just about equally in all directions by neutrinos... so the total momentum effectively cancels to zero.  Some of the matter is moved a bit... but falls back into the very deep gravity well.</p>

<p>I'm sure it would be a sight to behold... for that brief moment before you were vaporized by neutrinos (and all the other energy) at least.</p>

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2019-08-26T22:33:08.630Z
How close to such an explosion could a human in something like ISS be and survive? What about a remote controlled satellite or other vehicle without a human onboard?
d-b
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2019-08-27T03:36:15.827Z
@d-b: Around 50-100 light years: https://earthsky.org/astronomy-essentials/supernove-distance  That's for the Earth, with atmosphere &C to offer a bit of protection.
jamesqf
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2019-08-27T07:37:46.697Z
"The total momentum cancels to zero". This isn't how pressure works. The pressure caused by neutrinos is highest at the centre.
ProfRob
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2019-08-27T11:56:55.140Z
@RobJeffries: Sure, but pressure alone doesn't impart any net momentum. You need a pressure _gradient_ (or a shock) for that, and that tends to zero at the center.
Ilmari Karonen
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2019-08-27T13:02:16.020Z
@IlmariKaronen The pressure *gradient* is also far higher inside the core of a supernova remnant than anywhere else in the star.
ProfRob
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2019-08-27T13:43:19.087Z
@IlmariKaronen But of course is exactly zero, exactly at the centre, by definition.
ProfRob
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Reginald Blue
<p>Found the <a href="https://spaceplace.nasa.gov/supernova/en/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">answer</a> on NASA site</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>The collapse happens so quickly that it creates enormous shock waves that cause the <strong>outer part</strong> of the star to explode!</p>
</blockquote>

<p>This means the core survives the blast somehow </p>

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2019-08-27T17:35:21.563Z
Isn't this begging the question? (in the original sense of the term). "Matter stays collapsed at the core because ... the shock waves cause the outer part to explode" doesn't really explain anything. The key part of this answer is lost in the "somehow" bit at the end. Would it be possible to elaborate on what that "somehow" is, please?
SusanW
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2019-08-26T17:11:30.333Z
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Riccardo
<p>Note that massive stars in the 50-150 solar mass range can explode in a supernova end leave no core whatsoever, because of a thing called "pair instability". </p>

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Khannea
<p>After a supernova explosion, the event might leave a compact object as a neutron star or a blackhole. The object can still accrete materials such as from fall back accretion or its companion star. If the object is a neutron star, it might further collapse into a blackhole.</p>

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2019-08-26T16:46:50.860Z
That's the question ! How can the core survive such an explosion that will scatter matter over 11 light years? That's the size of the Crab Nebula....
Riccardo
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2019-08-26T18:48:12.440Z
I think the point of the original question is **how** this happens, not that it does.
Carl Witthoft
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2019-08-26T21:22:09.363Z
@Riccardo in space, once you scatter matter to the point where its own gravity will not pull it back it will just keep going. If you wait long enough it will spread over 11, 1100 or 11000 light years.
Steve Linton
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2019-08-27T06:27:28.610Z
Correct! I was fooled thinking the matter would stop expanding as it happens on earth :-)
Riccardo
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2019-08-27T19:09:39.490Z
@Riccardo: Gravity.  [Neutron stars have a _lot_ of it.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_star#Gravity_and_equation_of_state)
Vikki
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2019-08-26T16:34:19.897Z
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Kornpob Bhirombhakdi
<p>In a star, there are two opposing forces which usually balance each other Gravity is a force which induces collapse, while radiation pressure from the fusion reactions within resists the tendency to collapse. Small, sun-like stars, when they have used up most of their hydrogen fuel, will start "burning" helium and become red giants. When the helium runs out they will puff off their outer layers in a nova and collapse to form a white dwarf about the size of Earth. These white dwarfs are amazingly dense and heavy, because most of the mass of the original star has been compressed into a comparatively tiny volume. Further collapse is resisted by a force called electron degeneracy pressure.</p>

<p>Stars much larger than the sun will go on fusing elements beyond helium, building up layers of successively heavier elements until they reach iron. Fusion of elements beyond iron requires an input of energy rather than producing any, and the nuclear fires go out, so deprived of support from radiation pressure the outer layers of the star collapse, producing a supernova explosion. Electron degeneracy pressure is not enough to prevent a more drastic collapse than occurs with much smaller stars. According to the mass of the collapsing star, this will either result in the formation of a neutron star, which is like a gigantic atomic nucleus of incredible density about 6 miles across but containing a mass equivalent to several of our suns, or it will collapse further to form a black hole singularity in which matter enters a state not fully understood by science. Our sun, by the way, is 860,000 miles in diameter..</p>

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2019-08-26T20:27:01.277Z
This doesn't address the question at all.
ProfRob
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2019-08-26T21:00:45.770Z
Matter stays collapsed because of the immense gravitational fields these supernovae remnants have. I'd have thought that was obvious.
Michael Walsby
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2019-08-26T12:26:33.963Z
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Michael Walsby
<p>In order to "blow something up" you need to release more energy than its binding energy <em>and</em> have a way of trapping that energy so it can't escape in another way. </p>

<p>At the centre of a core collapse supernovae is a 10 km radius, <span class="math-container">$1.4 M_{\odot}$</span> ball of (almost) neutrons.
Its gravitational binding energy is <span class="math-container">$\sim GM^2/R = 5\times 10^{46}$</span> J.</p>

<p>This is almost exactly how much energy is released by the collapse of the core from a much larger size (i.e. the energy of the supernova is gravitational to begin with) and since some of that energy goes into dissociating iron nuclei and making neutrons (both endothermic processes) and most of the rest escapes in the form of neutrinos, then there can't be enough energy to unbind the core. Only a tiny fraction (1%) of this energy is transferred to the <strong>envelope</strong> of the original star, which since it has a much larger radius (by at least 5 orders of magnitude), <em>is</em> enough to overcome its gravitational binding energy and blast it into space.</p>

<p>The case of a type Ia supernova (an exploding white dwarf) is quite different. Here the energy source is <em>not</em> gravitational collapse, but from a thermonuclear detonation of all the carbon and oxygen that make up the white dwarf, to form iron peak elements. This exothermic process rapidly releases enough energy to unbind the original star (e.g. see <a href="https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/346084/can-nuclear-fusion-alone-account-for-the-energy-output-from-type-1a-supernova/346092#346092">here</a>) and it is completely destroyed.</p>

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2019-08-27T19:07:35.077Z
"This is almost exactly how much energy is released by the collapse of the core from a much larger size (i.e. the energy of the supernova is gravitational to begin with) and since some of that energy goes into dissociating iron nuclei and making neutrons (both endothermic processes) and most of the rest escapes in the form of neutrinos, then there can't be enough energy to unbind the core."  So the energy released by fusing nearly the entire envelope into nickel-56 in a couple of seconds doesn't count, then?
Vikki
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2019-08-27T22:35:30.290Z
@Sean That isn't what happens in a core collapse supernova and the ejected envelope is predominantly hydrogen and helium. The core is already in the form of iron-peak elements when it collapses. Any (limited) fusion beyond the core has no effect on the core since it is entirely decoupled from the envelope during the collapse. Any fusion in the envelope is also energetically insignificant compared to the energy (somehow) deposited by the vast neutrino flux.
ProfRob
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ProfRob
<p>Following a supernova explosion a star may turn into a white dwarf, neutron star, black hole, or just a stellar dust &amp; gas leftover.</p>

<p>Excluding the latter case, why and how does the star's core matter stays collapsed, after such an event where matter is burst and scattered in space?</p>

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2019-08-26T12:19:04.150Z
It's the other way. The collapse comes first anf the explosion afterwards. Basically the core of the stay collapses and the outer part falls in to fill the void, gets very hot (partlyu as a result of energy radiated by the collapsing core and partly from its own fall) and fuses explosively.
Steve Linton
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2019-08-26T12:56:31.927Z
Steve, this is what the question is about. Following the explosion a neutron star or black whole may be left in place. Why does the matter left after the explosion stays collapsed in so dense objects? maybe the nova explosion expels only some part of the collapsing star?
Riccardo
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2019-08-26T16:40:20.740Z
@uhoh I meant dust & gas
Riccardo
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2019-08-26T17:12:37.447Z
@riccardo exactly so. The explosion happens around the collapsed core of the star, blowing the outer layers outwards, but leaving the core, in some cases intact
Steve Linton
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2019-08-27T03:40:23.967Z
WRT a black hole, because - obviously! - the gravity is such that the escape velocity exceeds the speed of light.  Thus nothing can possibly escape.  The case for a neutron star is just a bit less extreme.
jamesqf
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Why does matter stay collapsed in the core, following a supernova explosion?
Riccardo
# Why does matter stay collapsed in the core, following a supernova explosion?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2019-08-26)

Following a supernova explosion a star may turn into a white dwarf, neutron star, black hole, or just a stellar dust & gas leftover.

Excluding the latter case, why and how does the star's core matter stays collapsed, after such an event where matter is burst and scattered in space?

**Tags:** supernova, explosion
> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: It's the other way. The collapse comes first anf the explosion afterwards. Basically the core of the stay collapses and the outer part falls in to fill the void, gets very hot (partlyu as a result of energy radiated by the collapsing core and partly from its own fall) and fuses explosively.  
> **username_0**: Steve, this is what the question is about. Following the explosion a neutron star or black whole may be left in place. Why does the matter left after the explosion stays collapsed in so dense objects? maybe the nova explosion expels only some part of the collapsing star?  
> **username_0**: @uhoh I meant dust & gas  
> **username_1**: @riccardo exactly so. The explosion happens around the collapsed core of the star, blowing the outer layers outwards, but leaving the core, in some cases intact  
> **username_2**: WRT a black hole, because - obviously! - the gravity is such that the escape velocity exceeds the speed of light.  Thus nothing can possibly escape.  The case for a neutron star is just a bit less extreme.  

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## 6 answers

### Answer by username_5 on 2019-08-26. Score: 20 | Accepted answer

In order to "blow something up" you need to release more energy than its binding energy *and* have a way of trapping that energy so it can't escape in another way.

At the centre of a core collapse supernovae is a 10 km radius, $1.4 M\_{\odot}$ ball of (almost) neutrons.
Its gravitational binding energy is $\sim GM^2/R = 5\times 10^{46}$ J.

This is almost exactly how much energy is released by the collapse of the core from a much larger size (i.e. the energy of the supernova is gravitational to begin with) and since some of that energy goes into dissociating iron nuclei and making neutrons (both endothermic processes) and most of the rest escapes in the form of neutrinos, then there can't be enough energy to unbind the core. Only a tiny fraction (1%) of this energy is transferred to the **envelope** of the original star, which since it has a much larger radius (by at least 5 orders of magnitude), *is* enough to overcome its gravitational binding energy and blast it into space.

The case of a type Ia supernova (an exploding white dwarf) is quite different. Here the energy source is *not* gravitational collapse, but from a thermonuclear detonation of all the carbon and oxygen that make up the white dwarf, to form iron peak elements. This exothermic process rapidly releases enough energy to unbind the original star (e.g. see [here](https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/346084/can-nuclear-fusion-alone-account-for-the-energy-output-from-type-1a-supernova/346092#346092)) and it is completely destroyed.

> **Comments:**
> **username_11**: "This is almost exactly how much energy is released by the collapse of the core from a much larger size (i.e. the energy of the supernova is gravitational to begin with) and since some of that energy goes into dissociating iron nuclei and making neutrons (both endothermic processes) and most of the rest escapes in the form of neutrinos, then there can't be enough energy to unbind the core."  So the energy released by fusing nearly the entire envelope into nickel-56 in a couple of seconds doesn't count, then?  
> **username_5**: @Sean That isn't what happens in a core collapse supernova and the ejected envelope is predominantly hydrogen and helium. The core is already in the form of iron-peak elements when it collapses. Any (limited) fusion beyond the core has no effect on the core since it is entirely decoupled from the envelope during the collapse. Any fusion in the envelope is also energetically insignificant compared to the energy (somehow) deposited by the vast neutrino flux.  

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### Answer by username_3 on 2019-08-26. Score: 7

What's missing from the above explanations is what is really going on that causes any kind of explosion at all.

I'm going to steal from xkcd to help with this:

<https://what-if.xkcd.com/73/>

And here's an article from the Max Planck Institute that talks in depth about the nature of the neutrino aspect:

<https://www.mpg.de/11368641/neutrinos-supernovae>

Ultimately, when the star is in it's dying moments, it starts emitting neutrinos. A lot of neutrinos... with a lot of energy. Now, I'm sure you're thinking "what would that do... they don't weigh much of anything". But this is literally like being buried in a football stadium with ants... there are so many neutrinos packing so much energy that they literally cause the outer matter of the star to be blown outwards with large enough energy to carry it away from the gravity well of the remaining matter.

Ah... but how does any matter remain? Because close to the center, the gravity well is deepest, and also close to the center any particle (nucleus/neutron) is being bombarded just about equally in all directions by neutrinos... so the total momentum effectively cancels to zero. Some of the matter is moved a bit... but falls back into the very deep gravity well.

I'm sure it would be a sight to behold... for that brief moment before you were vaporized by neutrinos (and all the other energy) at least.

> **Comments:**
> **username_4**: How close to such an explosion could a human in something like ISS be and survive? What about a remote controlled satellite or other vehicle without a human onboard?  
> **username_2**: @d-b: Around 50-100 light years: https://earthsky.org/astronomy-essentials/supernove-distance  That's for the Earth, with atmosphere &C to offer a bit of protection.  
> **username_5**: "The total momentum cancels to zero". This isn't how pressure works. The pressure caused by neutrinos is highest at the centre.  
> **username_6**: @RobJeffries: Sure, but pressure alone doesn't impart any net momentum. You need a pressure _gradient_ (or a shock) for that, and that tends to zero at the center.  
> **username_5**: @IlmariKaronen The pressure *gradient* is also far higher inside the core of a supernova remnant than anywhere else in the star.  
> **username_5**: @IlmariKaronen But of course is exactly zero, exactly at the centre, by definition.  

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### Answer by username_0 on 2019-08-26. Score: 2

Found the [answer](https://spaceplace.nasa.gov/supernova/en/) on NASA site

> The collapse happens so quickly that it creates enormous shock waves that cause the **outer part** of the star to explode!

This means the core survives the blast somehow

> **Comments:**
> **username_7**: Isn't this begging the question? (in the original sense of the term). "Matter stays collapsed at the core because ... the shock waves cause the outer part to explode" doesn't really explain anything. The key part of this answer is lost in the "somehow" bit at the end. Would it be possible to elaborate on what that "somehow" is, please?  

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### Answer by username_8 on 2019-09-01. Score: 0

Note that massive stars in the 50-150 solar mass range can explode in a supernova end leave no core whatsoever, because of a thing called "pair instability".


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### Answer by username_9 on 2019-08-26. Score: 0

After a supernova explosion, the event might leave a compact object as a neutron star or a blackhole. The object can still accrete materials such as from fall back accretion or its companion star. If the object is a neutron star, it might further collapse into a blackhole.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: That's the question ! How can the core survive such an explosion that will scatter matter over 11 light years? That's the size of the Crab Nebula....  
> **username_10**: I think the point of the original question is **how** this happens, not that it does.  
> **username_1**: @Riccardo in space, once you scatter matter to the point where its own gravity will not pull it back it will just keep going. If you wait long enough it will spread over 11, 1100 or 11000 light years.  
> **username_0**: Correct! I was fooled thinking the matter would stop expanding as it happens on earth :-)  
> **username_11**: @Riccardo: Gravity.  [Neutron stars have a _lot_ of it.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_star#Gravity_and_equation_of_state)  

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### Answer by username_12 on 2019-08-26. Score: -1

In a star, there are two opposing forces which usually balance each other Gravity is a force which induces collapse, while radiation pressure from the fusion reactions within resists the tendency to collapse. Small, sun-like stars, when they have used up most of their hydrogen fuel, will start "burning" helium and become red giants. When the helium runs out they will puff off their outer layers in a nova and collapse to form a white dwarf about the size of Earth. These white dwarfs are amazingly dense and heavy, because most of the mass of the original star has been compressed into a comparatively tiny volume. Further collapse is resisted by a force called electron degeneracy pressure.

Stars much larger than the sun will go on fusing elements beyond helium, building up layers of successively heavier elements until they reach iron. Fusion of elements beyond iron requires an input of energy rather than producing any, and the nuclear fires go out, so deprived of support from radiation pressure the outer layers of the star collapse, producing a supernova explosion. Electron degeneracy pressure is not enough to prevent a more drastic collapse than occurs with much smaller stars. According to the mass of the collapsing star, this will either result in the formation of a neutron star, which is like a gigantic atomic nucleus of incredible density about 6 miles across but containing a mass equivalent to several of our suns, or it will collapse further to form a black hole singularity in which matter enters a state not fully understood by science. Our sun, by the way, is 860,000 miles in diameter..

> **Comments:**
> **username_5**: This doesn't address the question at all.  
> **username_12**: Matter stays collapsed because of the immense gravitational fields these supernovae remnants have. I'd have thought that was obvious.  

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