<p>The trajectory of a ballistic body, whether in Newtonian or Relativistic physics depends on the initial energy and angular momentum.</p>
<p>The difference is that in Newtonian physics, if the mass is compact enough, the infalling object (if given an initial kinetic energy) will never hit the central object, unless it is a direct hit, and will scatter off to infinity.</p>
<p>This can also happen in GR, but only if the specific angular momentum exceeds a threshold that increases with the initial energy of the particle, but can never be less <span class="math-container">$4GM/c$</span>, and only as small as this for an object that falls from infinity with no initial kinetic energy. If the specific angular momentum is less than this then the infalling object will always end up in the black hole (for a freefalling trajectory).</p>
<p>For the limiting case, the closest approach to the black hole is <span class="math-container">$2r_s$</span>, which is the local maximum of the effective potential.</p>
<p>However, the body can get closer if it has more angular momentum and more initial energy. If we allow the angular momentum and energy to get arbitrarily large then the body can get to <span class="math-container">$r=1.5 r_s$</span>.</p>
<p>So I think this is the answer you are looking for. This is the value for a Schwarzschild black hole. For a spinning black hole, things are more complicated.</p>
<p>EDIT: <strong>Some details</strong></p>
<p>The effective potential in the Schwarzschild metric is given by
<span class="math-container">$$ \frac{V_{\rm eff}}{mc^2} = -\frac{r_s}{2r} + \frac{L^2}{2m^2 r^2 c^2} - \frac{r_sL^2}{2m^2r^3c^2}\ , $$</span>
where <span class="math-container">$r_s$</span> is the Schwarzschild radius and <span class="math-container">$L/m$</span> is the specific angular momentum of the free body.</p>
<p>The radial equation of motion in terms of the proper time <span class="math-container">$\tau$</span> of the body is
<span class="math-container">$$\frac{1}{2c^2}\left( \frac{dr}{d\tau}\right)^2 = \frac{1}{2}\left( \frac{E^2}{m^2 c^4} -1 \right) - \frac{V_{\rm eff}}{mc^2} \ .$$</span></p>
<p>To find the local maximum of the effective potential, differentiate with respect to <span class="math-container">$r$</span> and equate to zero. This gives you that the specific angular momentum at the maximum is
<span class="math-container">$$ \frac{L^2}{m^2} = \frac{c^2 r_s r^2}{2r - 3r_s}\ . $$</span></p>
<p>Allowing the energy of the body to be <span class="math-container">$E = \gamma mc^2$</span> (where <span class="math-container">$\gamma$</span> is the Lorentz factor) one can set <span class="math-container">$dr/d\tau = 0$</span> at the scattering minimum radius and then subsititute in the value for <span class="math-container">$L^2/m^2$</span> at the maximum of the effective potential. The rationale here is that the body will get to its closest point when it has an energy corresponding to the maximum in the effective potential. If it has any more energy than this it will just plunge into the black hole. Any less and it will scatter at a larger radius.</p>
<p>This condition gives you a quadratic equation in <span class="math-container">$r$</span> which can be solved in terms of <span class="math-container">$\gamma$</span>. If <span class="math-container">$\gamma=1$</span> then the quadratic becomes a linear equation with <span class="math-container">$r=2r_s$</span>. This corresponds to the case of a particle falling in from rest at infinity and meeting a local maximum of the potential of <span class="math-container">$V_{\rm eff}=0$</span>. The body then scatters off to (just) infinity (i.e. the marginally bound case). This is illustrated below, where the horizontal purple line is a line corresponding to an energy <span class="math-container">$E/mc^2=1$</span>. The peak at B is at <span class="math-container">$r=2r_s$</span> where <span class="math-container">$V_{\rm eff}=0$</span> (I've also shown the equivalent Newtonian potential for contrast).</p>
<p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/MCAQV.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/MCAQV.png" alt="Marginally bound" /></a></p>
<p>If you allow <span class="math-container">$\gamma$</span> to be larger then the the viable solutions for the minimum <span class="math-container">$r$</span> lie in the bounds <span class="math-container">$1.5 r_s \leq r \leq 2r_s$</span>. If <span class="math-container">$\gamma \rightarrow \infty$</span> then the scattering minimum radius <span class="math-container">$r \rightarrow 1.5r_s$</span>, which also requires <span class="math-container">$L/m \rightarrow \infty$</span>. The plot below shows the potential for <span class="math-container">$L/m = 10GM/c$</span>, with a purple line representing a body with <span class="math-container">$E/mc^2=2$</span> which would scatter to infinity. The peak at B is just above <span class="math-container">$r=1.5r_s$</span>.</p>
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The closest you can approach a Schwarzschild BH on a freefalling trajectory and still return to infinity is $\tfrac{3}{2}r_s$. The $2r_s$ you mentioned is closest approach for a marginally bound trajectory.
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@mmeent Correct. I have got myself in a tangle with the limiting case of a minimum angular momentum.
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If there is a link to some math on this subject it would perhaps be useful.
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I was about to ask some clarifying questions but then I reread the answer and I think you've made edits that addressed my questions already. Thanks!
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Thanks for the great edit and also the link to geogebra.com which I was not aware of until now.
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<p>The scenario I am imagining is a test particle falling from infinity with an initial off-center velocity. In Newtonian mechanics the path would be a hyperbola. But I assume that, near a black hole, that is no longer a good approximation.</p>
<p>I have read about the innermost stable circular orbit, and it seems like there might be an innermost free-return distance, where any object that falls within that distance will need to use rockets to get back out. I may have even come across this idea, but I am not finding it with a Google search.</p>
<p>I have an argument that there must be such a distance. Imagine that you could fly past a supermassive black hole just half a meter above the event horizon and continue on to deep space without using rockets. Tidal forces aren't so great at the event horizon for a SMBH, so there should be no reason you can't extend your arm just over half a meter down and not pull back a bloody stump. But you can't retrieve things from below the event horizon. This paradox is resolved if, in fact, the only way to escape from that close to the EH is to exert massive force using rockets (or some other method). Even though you are not yet inside the EH, your free fall path will take all of you there, and the force to prevent that would pulp you anyway. I think it is related enough to the main question to ask: Is this analysis correct?</p>

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For a non-rotating BH, the [ISCO](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Innermost_stable_circular_orbit) radius is $3r_s$ and the photon sphere radius is $1.5r_s$, so even a photon with a hyperbolic trajectory can't approach the BH any closer than that. That article also mentions a marginally bound orbit at $2r_s$, but it doesn't give any details. I guess it may be the limit of a hyperbolic / parabolic trajectory for massive particles. Things are more complicated for spinning black holes, and SMBHs tend to have a *lot* of spin. See https://astronomy.stackexchange.com/a/20292/16685
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# Is there a closest free-return trajectory to a black hole?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2021-04-11)

The scenario I am imagining is a test particle falling from infinity with an initial off-center velocity. In Newtonian mechanics the path would be a hyperbola. But I assume that, near a black hole, that is no longer a good approximation.

I have read about the innermost stable circular orbit, and it seems like there might be an innermost free-return distance, where any object that falls within that distance will need to use rockets to get back out. I may have even come across this idea, but I am not finding it with a Google search.

I have an argument that there must be such a distance. Imagine that you could fly past a supermassive black hole just half a meter above the event horizon and continue on to deep space without using rockets. Tidal forces aren't so great at the event horizon for a SMBH, so there should be no reason you can't extend your arm just over half a meter down and not pull back a bloody stump. But you can't retrieve things from below the event horizon. This paradox is resolved if, in fact, the only way to escape from that close to the EH is to exert massive force using rockets (or some other method). Even though you are not yet inside the EH, your free fall path will take all of you there, and the force to prevent that would pulp you anyway. I think it is related enough to the main question to ask: Is this analysis correct?

**Tags:** black-hole, general-relativity, supermassive-black-hole, event-horizon
> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: For a non-rotating BH, the [ISCO](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Innermost_stable_circular_orbit) radius is $3r_s$ and the photon sphere radius is $1.5r_s$, so even a photon with a hyperbolic trajectory can't approach the BH any closer than that. That article also mentions a marginally bound orbit at $2r_s$, but it doesn't give any details. I guess it may be the limit of a hyperbolic / parabolic trajectory for massive particles. Things are more complicated for spinning black holes, and SMBHs tend to have a *lot* of spin. See https://astronomy.stackexchange.com/a/20292/16685  

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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_2 on 2021-04-11. Score: 13 | Accepted answer

The trajectory of a ballistic body, whether in Newtonian or Relativistic physics depends on the initial energy and angular momentum.

The difference is that in Newtonian physics, if the mass is compact enough, the infalling object (if given an initial kinetic energy) will never hit the central object, unless it is a direct hit, and will scatter off to infinity.

This can also happen in GR, but only if the specific angular momentum exceeds a threshold that increases with the initial energy of the particle, but can never be less $4GM/c$, and only as small as this for an object that falls from infinity with no initial kinetic energy. If the specific angular momentum is less than this then the infalling object will always end up in the black hole (for a freefalling trajectory).

For the limiting case, the closest approach to the black hole is $2r\_s$, which is the local maximum of the effective potential.

However, the body can get closer if it has more angular momentum and more initial energy. If we allow the angular momentum and energy to get arbitrarily large then the body can get to $r=1.5 r\_s$.

So I think this is the answer you are looking for. This is the value for a Schwarzschild black hole. For a spinning black hole, things are more complicated.

EDIT: **Some details**

The effective potential in the Schwarzschild metric is given by
$$ \frac{V\_{\rm eff}}{mc^2} = -\frac{r\_s}{2r} + \frac{L^2}{2m^2 r^2 c^2} - \frac{r\_sL^2}{2m^2r^3c^2}\ , $$
where $r\_s$ is the Schwarzschild radius and $L/m$ is the specific angular momentum of the free body.

The radial equation of motion in terms of the proper time $\tau$ of the body is
$$\frac{1}{2c^2}\left( \frac{dr}{d\tau}\right)^2 = \frac{1}{2}\left( \frac{E^2}{m^2 c^4} -1 \right) - \frac{V\_{\rm eff}}{mc^2} \ .$$

To find the local maximum of the effective potential, differentiate with respect to $r$ and equate to zero. This gives you that the specific angular momentum at the maximum is
$$ \frac{L^2}{m^2} = \frac{c^2 r\_s r^2}{2r - 3r\_s}\ . $$

Allowing the energy of the body to be $E = \gamma mc^2$ (where $\gamma$ is the Lorentz factor) one can set $dr/d\tau = 0$ at the scattering minimum radius and then subsititute in the value for $L^2/m^2$ at the maximum of the effective potential. The rationale here is that the body will get to its closest point when it has an energy corresponding to the maximum in the effective potential. If it has any more energy than this it will just plunge into the black hole. Any less and it will scatter at a larger radius.

This condition gives you a quadratic equation in $r$ which can be solved in terms of $\gamma$. If $\gamma=1$ then the quadratic becomes a linear equation with $r=2r\_s$. This corresponds to the case of a particle falling in from rest at infinity and meeting a local maximum of the potential of $V\_{\rm eff}=0$. The body then scatters off to (just) infinity (i.e. the marginally bound case). This is illustrated below, where the horizontal purple line is a line corresponding to an energy $E/mc^2=1$. The peak at B is at $r=2r\_s$ where $V\_{\rm eff}=0$ (I've also shown the equivalent Newtonian potential for contrast).

[![Marginally bound](https://i.sstatic.net/MCAQV.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/MCAQV.png)

If you allow $\gamma$ to be larger then the the viable solutions for the minimum $r$ lie in the bounds $1.5 r\_s \leq r \leq 2r\_s$. If $\gamma \rightarrow \infty$ then the scattering minimum radius $r \rightarrow 1.5r\_s$, which also requires $L/m \rightarrow \infty$. The plot below shows the potential for $L/m = 10GM/c$, with a purple line representing a body with $E/mc^2=2$ which would scatter to infinity. The peak at B is just above $r=1.5r\_s$.

[![High energy scattering](https://i.sstatic.net/8xVWH.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/8xVWH.png)

If you want to play with this (my) Geogebra widget, you can find it at <https://www.geogebra.org/m/u7y6huer>

> **Comments:**
> **username_3**: The closest you can approach a Schwarzschild BH on a freefalling trajectory and still return to infinity is $\tfrac{3}{2}r_s$. The $2r_s$ you mentioned is closest approach for a marginally bound trajectory.  
> **username_2**: @mmeent Correct. I have got myself in a tangle with the limiting case of a minimum angular momentum.  
> **username_4**: If there is a link to some math on this subject it would perhaps be useful.  
> **username_0**: I was about to ask some clarifying questions but then I reread the answer and I think you've made edits that addressed my questions already. Thanks!  
> **username_4**: Thanks for the great edit and also the link to geogebra.com which I was not aware of until now.  

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