<p>On the A8, the idler wheel is fixed, but ought to be in-line with the top of the hot-end if everything is properly assembled. You can also check that the top of the throat is smoothly finished (it should be OK, but you might have a poorly manufactured example).</p>

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2018-02-07T12:44:59.433Z
Thanks, I will have a look. Is the idler wheel the one I was calling the guide wheel?
Plodmore
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2018-02-07T13:15:15.393Z
Yes. As I think about what you're describing, inserting the filament between gear and idler, then using the extruder drive might be the answer you're looking for - it certainly worked for me after installing a printed guide (and manual feeding didn't work)
Sean Houlihane
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2018-02-07T13:30:13.557Z
Just wondering. The gear is direct mounted on the motor so it cannot have scope for movement but could I possibly have moved the top of the hot end out of alignment when I modified the fan for easy removal?
Plodmore
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2018-02-07T13:39:55.593Z
Doubt it. There are two aluminium extrusions bolted to the stepper. All that can move is the top part with the idler, everything else has no flexability.
Sean Houlihane
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2018-02-07T08:19:10.700Z
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Sean Houlihane
<p>A lot of people complain on the filament insertion of the Anet A8. Personally, I have no problems at all. I cut the filament under a sharp angle and pre-bend the filament (not completely straight) and push it in the hole, it works every time without having to disassemble the extruder fan. Note that if you have the throat screwed in too much that it sticks out of the aluminum throat holder of the extruder (so not the part where the brass nozzle screws in) it is way more difficult to insert. I kept the top of the throat more or less flush with the block.</p>
<p>Other techniques to insert filament include:</p>
<ul>
<li>cutting the old filament (straight cut) and let the extruder feed while you press the new filament on top of the old filament stump, if done correctly the friction will feed the new filament right after the old,</li>
<li>print <a href="https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2366523" rel="nofollow noreferrer">filament guides</a> for inside the extruder gear cavity,</li>
<li>removable or magnetic fan brackets.</li>
</ul>

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0scar
<p>I was having the same issue as you and know what you are talking about and there is a file that you should print that will help you (I have printed this).</p>

<p>While the file says for the Anet A6, I think the extrude are the same on the Anet A8. It goes under the gear and bearing and guides the filament to the hole. Should work well for you.</p>

<p>Other things that you can do is straighten out the filament. That is what I do, it helps that much more. You can also cut the end at a angle to sharpen the end with a pencil sharpener, also helps find the hole. </p>

<p>So try the file, I think it will help you would. </p>

<p>File --> <a href="https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2242903" rel="noreferrer">https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2242903</a> </p>

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Ljk2000
<p>I had been printing with ABS and took the advice to alter the fan so I can see the filament when I am loading it into the cold end. It was tricky but doable. I am now trying with PLA and getting it to line up with the whole is a nightmare. Can the driving cog and guide wheel be moved? A couple of mm would stop the driving cog pushing the filament off line.</p>

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2018-02-08T18:46:57.883Z
Why don't you try to cut the filament on skewed shape? if not, try in other angle.
Fernando Baltazar
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Anet A8 hard to insert filament
Plodmore
# Anet A8 hard to insert filament

(Asked by: username_0 on 2018-02-06)

I had been printing with ABS and took the advice to alter the fan so I can see the filament when I am loading it into the cold end. It was tricky but doable. I am now trying with PLA and getting it to line up with the whole is a nightmare. Can the driving cog and guide wheel be moved? A couple of mm would stop the driving cog pushing the filament off line.

**Tags:** pla, extruder, anet-a8

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: Why don't you try to cut the filament on skewed shape? if not, try in other angle.  

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## 3 answers

### Answer by username_4 on 2018-02-06. Score: 4 | Accepted answer

I was having the same issue as you and know what you are talking about and there is a file that you should print that will help you (I have printed this).

While the file says for the Anet A6, I think the extrude are the same on the Anet A8. It goes under the gear and bearing and guides the filament to the hole. Should work well for you.

Other things that you can do is straighten out the filament. That is what I do, it helps that much more. You can also cut the end at a angle to sharpen the end with a pencil sharpener, also helps find the hole.

So try the file, I think it will help you would.

File --> <https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2242903>


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### Answer by username_2 on 2018-02-07. Score: 1

On the A8, the idler wheel is fixed, but ought to be in-line with the top of the hot-end if everything is properly assembled. You can also check that the top of the throat is smoothly finished (it should be OK, but you might have a poorly manufactured example).

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: Thanks, I will have a look. Is the idler wheel the one I was calling the guide wheel?  
> **username_2**: Yes. As I think about what you're describing, inserting the filament between gear and idler, then using the extruder drive might be the answer you're looking for - it certainly worked for me after installing a printed guide (and manual feeding didn't work)  
> **username_0**: Just wondering. The gear is direct mounted on the motor so it cannot have scope for movement but could I possibly have moved the top of the hot end out of alignment when I modified the fan for easy removal?  
> **username_2**: Doubt it. There are two aluminium extrusions bolted to the stepper. All that can move is the top part with the idler, everything else has no flexability.  

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### Answer by username_3 on 2018-06-06. Score: 0

A lot of people complain on the filament insertion of the Anet A8. Personally, I have no problems at all. I cut the filament under a sharp angle and pre-bend the filament (not completely straight) and push it in the hole, it works every time without having to disassemble the extruder fan. Note that if you have the throat screwed in too much that it sticks out of the aluminum throat holder of the extruder (so not the part where the brass nozzle screws in) it is way more difficult to insert. I kept the top of the throat more or less flush with the block.

Other techniques to insert filament include:

* cutting the old filament (straight cut) and let the extruder feed while you press the new filament on top of the old filament stump, if done correctly the friction will feed the new filament right after the old,
* print [filament guides](https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2366523) for inside the extruder gear cavity,
* removable or magnetic fan brackets.


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