<p>I have a weird problem over here, I'm restoring an FLSUN Kossel Mini (with a RAMPS 1.4 board) and it printed fine for the last two days.</p>
<p>Now when I initiate a print job, the extruder motor doesn't push filament into the nozzle ( it retracts filament like it's supposed to, it just doesn't push.) and this only happens during a print job.</p>
<ul>
<li>I cleaned the nozzle</li>
<li>Increased/decreased printing temp.</li>
<li>Swapped motor drivers.</li>
<li>Adjusted Z offset.</li>
<li>Reset the motherboard.</li>
<li>Changed acc and jerk values.</li>
</ul>
<p>None of these did the trick for me, and when I manually control the extruder motor (from the LCD or Repetier) it pushes the filament without any problems.</p>

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2024-01-13T23:35:46.433Z
Is it turning at all? Are there signs of filament grind? Does it fail from the start or at some point during the print?  Is coldside hot?..
Mołot
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2024-01-14T08:47:01.110Z
Yes it turns fine, and the whole extruder assymbly is clean from any grind or debris.
Ghazi Faisal
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2024-01-14T08:49:44.297Z
The extruder doesn't pull filament from the start of the job, but weirdly enough it retracts the fillament when z hopping.
Ghazi Faisal
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2024-01-14T17:13:35.337Z
Are you sure you are sending good gcode? And have you tried to remove hotend altogether, to make sure it has no part in the issue?
Mołot
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2024-01-14T17:24:21.887Z
Yes I did, first I used the didcated extruder buttons on repetier then tried with G1 commands, and both seemed to move the stepper motor fine.
Ghazi Faisal
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2024-01-14T17:25:50.670Z
Another thing I noticed was fillament wasn't extruded on the first 3 layers, when the print job reaches layer 4 the extruder motor returns to pumb fillament.
Ghazi Faisal
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2024-01-14T17:26:54.587Z
I eleminated the clogging/jaming possibility by romoving the filament wire and starting a print job.
Ghazi Faisal
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2024-01-14T17:27:24.333Z
This is when I found about the 3 layers problem.
Ghazi Faisal
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2024-01-14T17:28:43.477Z
Can the extruder stepper be damaged in this case?
Ghazi Faisal
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2024-01-14T19:23:28.017Z
Extruder motor works or it does not. It's not layer dependent. It seems your works. Check hour hcode
Mołot
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Extruder motor doesn't pull filament during job only
Ghazi Faisal
# Extruder motor doesn't pull filament during job only

(Asked by: username_0 on 2024-01-13)

I have a weird problem over here, I'm restoring an FLSUN Kossel Mini (with a RAMPS 1.4 board) and it printed fine for the last two days.

Now when I initiate a print job, the extruder motor doesn't push filament into the nozzle ( it retracts filament like it's supposed to, it just doesn't push.) and this only happens during a print job.

* I cleaned the nozzle
* Increased/decreased printing temp.
* Swapped motor drivers.
* Adjusted Z offset.
* Reset the motherboard.
* Changed acc and jerk values.

None of these did the trick for me, and when I manually control the extruder motor (from the LCD or Repetier) it pushes the filament without any problems.

**Tags:** marlin, troubleshooting, extruder, ramps-1.4, underextrusion

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: Is it turning at all? Are there signs of filament grind? Does it fail from the start or at some point during the print?  Is coldside hot?..  
> **username_0**: Yes it turns fine, and the whole extruder assymbly is clean from any grind or debris.  
> **username_0**: The extruder doesn't pull filament from the start of the job, but weirdly enough it retracts the fillament when z hopping.  
> **username_1**: Are you sure you are sending good gcode? And have you tried to remove hotend altogether, to make sure it has no part in the issue?  
> **username_0**: Yes I did, first I used the didcated extruder buttons on repetier then tried with G1 commands, and both seemed to move the stepper motor fine.  
> **username_0**: Another thing I noticed was fillament wasn't extruded on the first 3 layers, when the print job reaches layer 4 the extruder motor returns to pumb fillament.  
> **username_0**: I eleminated the clogging/jaming possibility by romoving the filament wire and starting a print job.  
> **username_0**: This is when I found about the 3 layers problem.  
> **username_0**: Can the extruder stepper be damaged in this case?  
> **username_1**: Extruder motor works or it does not. It's not layer dependent. It seems your works. Check hour hcode  

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