<p>If your printer is a genuine Prusa i3, MK2 or MK2.5, it will have a PEI bed which requires no additional adhesive for a model to remain properly attached during the print.</p>

<p>The PEI should be cleaned with denatured alcohol prior to a print. If your bed has had many prints in one location, the PEI will lose adhesion. I've recently assisted a Prusa owner to change the PEI sheet which improved print adhesion greatly. The strange aspect of that is the problem was getting the print to release, not that it would not remain attached. The user now knows to move the print location around the bed and not always in the center.</p>

<p>In your case, all the parameters look good, although 60mm per second is rather fast, that should not have a big effect on adhesion. </p>

<p>Prusa printers have the ability to perform a live-z adjustment. The first layer being printed should have a slightly squished or squashed appearance. When you begin the print, use a skirt or brim to force the printer to outline the model. During that period, use the live-z adjustment to flatten the first layer, but use caution to not drive the nozzle into the print surface.</p>

<p>For testing purposes, consider to create a model of only 1 mm thick using the same settings. This will give you faster results on testing the live-z and getting a good bond to the bed.</p>

<p>I use 70°C for printing PLA, but the measured temperature on my glass bed is 60°C which leads me to believe that you have a good number. The printing temperature is reasonable too.</p>

<p>10mm brim is wide and further indicates that your adhesion may be related to first-layer nozzle height.</p>

<p>Post-photo edit: I can see in the image provided that the first layer has large air gaps. This is directly related to either the extrusion factor or the z-height. The remainder of the model looks too good to be extrusion factor, returning my first assessment of z-height problems as more likely.</p>

<p>Yet another edit:</p>

<p>As best as I can determine from your printer name, you do not have a genuine Prusa i3, but rather a Geeetech prusa clone i3. As such, many things are different. My suggestion about z-height is no longer valid, as the firmware is likely to be different for your printer.</p>

<p>I'm not a cura user, but my quick research shows that it's probably called flow percentage. Other posts on the 'net suggest that below 100% would be underextrusion. I've <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb7lit5ZRq4" rel="nofollow noreferrer">found a video</a> that shows how to make your extruder match the 100% flow setting in the software. It's smarter to have the firmware represent accurate figures and the video will allow you to perform this calibration.</p>

<p>The z-height for your printer is related to print bed calibration. I was unable to locate anything useful to me with respect to that aspect of your printer. It appears that the bed has four leveling screws, although I'm not certain of that. If your bed leveling involves adjusting those screws, it is possible that all four (or three?) of them are too tight and have to be released a bit.</p>

<p>If you have bed calibration instructions, consider to perform them again, especially if you are going to adjust the extruder settings as per the previous video.</p>

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I have the Pursa i3 Pro B
james
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edited post to reflect new images.
fred_dot_u
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Thank you for your detailed answer. What do you exactly mean with "z-height problem". a mechanical problem with the z-axis or wrong configuration (e.g. Top/Bottom Line With), wrong calibration?
james
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extrusion factor / multiplier: in the program cura i don't find this option. Are there synonyms for this configuration, or is this parameter missing in cura?
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thank you for the clarification. I didn't know that there is a difference between "genuine Prusa i3" and "geeetech Prusa i3". I did the extruder calibration as in your posted video described: I edited my post with the new result. The bottom layer is now smooth and the bat didn't slipped away.
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fred_dot_u
<p>I try to configure my 3D Printer properly. </p>

<p>I printed this boat model <a href="https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2763854" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2763854</a> (with a scaling of 0.6):The quality of the print looks nice but at the last roof the entire print slipped away. (e.g. no adhesion between bed and print)</p>

<p>Here are some printing configuration</p>

<ul>
<li>Printer: prusa i3</li>
<li>Layer Height: 0.2mm</li>
<li>Top/Bottom Tickness: 0.8</li>
<li>Material: PLA</li>
<li>Bed adhesion: 10mm Brim</li>
<li>Printing Temperature: 200°C</li>
<li>Bed Temperature: 60°C</li>
<li>Travel Speed: 120mm/s</li>
<li>Print Speed: 60mm</li>
<li>Top/Bottom Line Width: 0.4mm</li>
</ul>

<p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/4MECW.jpg" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/4MECW.jpg" alt="enter image description here"></a>
<a href="https://i.sstatic.net/XVi86.jpg" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/XVi86.jpg" alt="enter image description here"></a>
<a href="https://i.sstatic.net/7tO9T.jpg" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/7tO9T.jpg" alt="enter image description here"></a></p>

<p>Is this common that the print can slip away?
Is e.g. the raft bed adhesion  a better option?
I have read that glue could prevent the print to slip away. What kind of glue I should use?
Could a hotter/colder heating bed prevent the print to slip away?</p>

<p>Thanks in advance</p>

<p>Edit:
Added Pictures after extruder calibration (<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb7lit5ZRq4" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb7lit5ZRq4</a>):
<a href="https://i.sstatic.net/DBlEn.jpg" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/DBlEn.jpg" alt="enter image description here"></a>
<a href="https://i.sstatic.net/j79MO.jpg" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/j79MO.jpg" alt="enter image description here"></a></p>

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I such cases a photo of printout will be a great help.
profesor79
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I added 3 photos.
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Print slipped away
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# Print slipped away

(Asked by: username_0 on 2018-04-12)

I try to configure my 3D Printer properly.

I printed this boat model <https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2763854> (with a scaling of 0.6):The quality of the print looks nice but at the last roof the entire print slipped away. (e.g. no adhesion between bed and print)

Here are some printing configuration

* Printer: prusa i3
* Layer Height: 0.2mm
* Top/Bottom Tickness: 0.8
* Material: PLA
* Bed adhesion: 10mm Brim
* Printing Temperature: 200°C
* Bed Temperature: 60°C
* Travel Speed: 120mm/s
* Print Speed: 60mm
* Top/Bottom Line Width: 0.4mm

[![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/4MECW.jpg)](https://i.sstatic.net/4MECW.jpg)
[![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/XVi86.jpg)](https://i.sstatic.net/XVi86.jpg)
[![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/7tO9T.jpg)](https://i.sstatic.net/7tO9T.jpg)

Is this common that the print can slip away?
Is e.g. the raft bed adhesion a better option?
I have read that glue could prevent the print to slip away. What kind of glue I should use?
Could a hotter/colder heating bed prevent the print to slip away?

Thanks in advance

Edit:
Added Pictures after extruder calibration (<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb7lit5ZRq4>):
[![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/DBlEn.jpg)](https://i.sstatic.net/DBlEn.jpg)
[![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/j79MO.jpg)](https://i.sstatic.net/j79MO.jpg)

**Tags:** prusa-i3, heated-bed, adhesion

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: I such cases a photo of printout will be a great help.  
> **username_0**: I added 3 photos.  

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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_2 on 2018-04-12. Score: 1 | Accepted answer

If your printer is a genuine Prusa i3, MK2 or MK2.5, it will have a PEI bed which requires no additional adhesive for a model to remain properly attached during the print.

The PEI should be cleaned with denatured alcohol prior to a print. If your bed has had many prints in one location, the PEI will lose adhesion. I've recently assisted a Prusa owner to change the PEI sheet which improved print adhesion greatly. The strange aspect of that is the problem was getting the print to release, not that it would not remain attached. The user now knows to move the print location around the bed and not always in the center.

In your case, all the parameters look good, although 60mm per second is rather fast, that should not have a big effect on adhesion.

Prusa printers have the ability to perform a live-z adjustment. The first layer being printed should have a slightly squished or squashed appearance. When you begin the print, use a skirt or brim to force the printer to outline the model. During that period, use the live-z adjustment to flatten the first layer, but use caution to not drive the nozzle into the print surface.

For testing purposes, consider to create a model of only 1 mm thick using the same settings. This will give you faster results on testing the live-z and getting a good bond to the bed.

I use 70°C for printing PLA, but the measured temperature on my glass bed is 60°C which leads me to believe that you have a good number. The printing temperature is reasonable too.

10mm brim is wide and further indicates that your adhesion may be related to first-layer nozzle height.

Post-photo edit: I can see in the image provided that the first layer has large air gaps. This is directly related to either the extrusion factor or the z-height. The remainder of the model looks too good to be extrusion factor, returning my first assessment of z-height problems as more likely.

Yet another edit:

As best as I can determine from your printer name, you do not have a genuine Prusa i3, but rather a Geeetech prusa clone i3. As such, many things are different. My suggestion about z-height is no longer valid, as the firmware is likely to be different for your printer.

I'm not a cura user, but my quick research shows that it's probably called flow percentage. Other posts on the 'net suggest that below 100% would be underextrusion. I've [found a video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb7lit5ZRq4) that shows how to make your extruder match the 100% flow setting in the software. It's smarter to have the firmware represent accurate figures and the video will allow you to perform this calibration.

The z-height for your printer is related to print bed calibration. I was unable to locate anything useful to me with respect to that aspect of your printer. It appears that the bed has four leveling screws, although I'm not certain of that. If your bed leveling involves adjusting those screws, it is possible that all four (or three?) of them are too tight and have to be released a bit.

If you have bed calibration instructions, consider to perform them again, especially if you are going to adjust the extruder settings as per the previous video.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: I have the Pursa i3 Pro B  
> **username_2**: edited post to reflect new images.  
> **username_0**: Thank you for your detailed answer. What do you exactly mean with "z-height problem". a mechanical problem with the z-axis or wrong configuration (e.g. Top/Bottom Line With), wrong calibration?  
> **username_0**: extrusion factor / multiplier: in the program cura i don't find this option. Are there synonyms for this configuration, or is this parameter missing in cura?  
> **username_0**: thank you for the clarification. I didn't know that there is a difference between "genuine Prusa i3" and "geeetech Prusa i3". I did the extruder calibration as in your posted video described: I edited my post with the new result. The bottom layer is now smooth and the bat didn't slipped away.  

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