<p>Short answer: <strong>by calibration</strong>.</p>
<p>Expanding on this short answer: <strong>pressure advance</strong> (or also called &quot;linear advance&quot;) can be used to compensate for the elasticity of the filament and the extruder system. There are at least three sources of elasticity, the filament in a Bowden tube, the compression of the filament itself and the conversion of stepper rotation into torque itself lagging behind.</p>
<p>To counter affect an unwanted effect, you need a measure to change the unwanted effect so that after tuning the unwanted effect is gone.</p>
<p>The build-up of pressure in the nozzle (as a result of the springiness of the complete extrusion system causes the end of a line to over-extrude when movement slows or stops. Consequently, a lack of pressure at the beginning (first need to compress the filament) will result in a lack of filament at the nozzle.</p>
<p>In order to compensate, we use test prints, not sensors, in which the printer owner/tuner selects the best extruded line based on various settings of the pressure advance ratio. This works well, the extrusion system doesn't generally change over time unless you change the extruder, Bowden tube lengths, etcetera. There is no need for a sensor if you can determine how to counter the effect</p>

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<p>I'm exploring the concept of Pressure Advance and its ability to predict and adjust pressure changes in the extruder. The image below shows the effects of Pressure Advance:</p>
<p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/K6udfl.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/K6udfl.png" alt="Pressure Advance aims to make printed lines more consistent" /></a></p>
<p>Source: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3yK0lJ8TWM" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Teaching Tech via YouTube</a></p>
<p>Since there are no pressure measurements performed, how does Pressure Advance algorithmically anticipate these pressure variations without real-time pressure data? Which underlying principles are used to estimate the pressure in advance?</p>

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How does pressure advance predict pressure without having actual pressure data?
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# How does pressure advance predict pressure without having actual pressure data?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2023-11-24)

I'm exploring the concept of Pressure Advance and its ability to predict and adjust pressure changes in the extruder. The image below shows the effects of Pressure Advance:

[![Pressure Advance aims to make printed lines more consistent](https://i.sstatic.net/K6udfl.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/K6udfl.png)

Source: [Teaching Tech via YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3yK0lJ8TWM)

Since there are no pressure measurements performed, how does Pressure Advance algorithmically anticipate these pressure variations without real-time pressure data? Which underlying principles are used to estimate the pressure in advance?

**Tags:** extrusion, nozzle, pressure-advance


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### Answer by username_1 on 2024-01-09. Score: 3 | Accepted answer

Short answer: **by calibration**.

Expanding on this short answer: **pressure advance** (or also called "linear advance") can be used to compensate for the elasticity of the filament and the extruder system. There are at least three sources of elasticity, the filament in a Bowden tube, the compression of the filament itself and the conversion of stepper rotation into torque itself lagging behind.

To counter affect an unwanted effect, you need a measure to change the unwanted effect so that after tuning the unwanted effect is gone.

The build-up of pressure in the nozzle (as a result of the springiness of the complete extrusion system causes the end of a line to over-extrude when movement slows or stops. Consequently, a lack of pressure at the beginning (first need to compress the filament) will result in a lack of filament at the nozzle.

In order to compensate, we use test prints, not sensors, in which the printer owner/tuner selects the best extruded line based on various settings of the pressure advance ratio. This works well, the extrusion system doesn't generally change over time unless you change the extruder, Bowden tube lengths, etcetera. There is no need for a sensor if you can determine how to counter the effect


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