Answers.Body: <p>The particular issue is resolved in CiviCRM 5.21: See <a href="https://civicrm.org/blog/dev-team/civicrm-521-release" rel="nofollow noreferrer">release notes</a></p>
  
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  <li><strong>Countries: Renamed "Macedonia, Republic of" to "North Macedonia".</strong></li>
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  <p>others have commented on the wider point.</p>
  
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Answers.Body: <p>Yes at the moment the list is manually maintained (see <a href="https://github.com/civicrm/civicrm-core/blob/5.15.2/xml/templates/civicrm_country.tpl#L172" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://github.com/civicrm/civicrm-core/blob/5.15.2/xml/templates/civicrm_country.tpl#L172</a>). You can file an update request at <a href="https://lab.civicrm.org/dev/core/issues" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://lab.civicrm.org/dev/core/issues</a></p>
  
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Answers.Text: @betty-dolfing Looks like you filed one at https://lab.civicrm.org/dev/core/issues/1166 and there has been an update done at https://github.com/civicrm/civicrm-core/pull/15997 which should be in version 5.21.
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Answers.Body: <p>The country/province lists <em>do not</em> have the correct ISO 3166 numeric ids (ex 1228 for USA should be 240.</p>
  
  <p>This is important because everyone else uses ISO ids and in order to map the right country IDs for civi, you need to create a mapping table. PITA. Get it right!</p>
  
  <p>As well the country names do not all match.</p>
  
  <p>Why not just use the ISO data dumps to create these tables, like the rest of the world does? >SMH&lt;</p>
  
  <p>This becomes very important when you need to create forms with addresses in them. You have to use one ID for civi and the correct ID for everything else....</p>
  
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Answers.Text: It's a fair point but the way stackexchange works this is likely to get downvoted because it's not an answer to the question that was asked. Can you instead repost this as a suggestion at https://lab.civicrm.org/dev/core/issues?
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Answers.Text: Done... https://lab.civicrm.org/dev/core/issues/1509 
  Thx for suggestion!
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Body: <p>in CiviCRM 5.15.2 (but also in 5.17.2 alpha on the CiviCRM demo site) the country North Macedonia is still referred to as: Macedonia, Republic of. </p>
  
  <p>Users can not change this themselves obviously. 
  <a href="https://wiki.civicrm.org/confluence/display/CRMDOC/i18n+Administrator&#39;s+Guide:+Using+CiviCRM+in+your+own+language#i18nAdministrator&#39;sGuide:UsingCiviCRMinyourownlanguage-CountriesandProvinces" rel="nofollow noreferrer">In the documentation</a> it is stated: 
  <em>The installed CiviCRM database contains both an ISO 3166-1-compliant list of countries, and a full, ISO 3166-2-compliant list of provinces (states, departments, voivodships, etc.).</em></p>
  
  <p>However, this does not seem to be the case. </p>
  
  <p>Can somebody tell me if CiviCRM needs updating the countries (or may be I should add my question somewhere else?) </p>
  
Tags: <contacts><addresses>
Title: Countries up to date?
ThreadText: # Countries up to date?
  
  (Asked by: username_0 on 2019-08-02)
  
  in CiviCRM 5.15.2 (but also in 5.17.2 alpha on the CiviCRM demo site) the country North Macedonia is still referred to as: Macedonia, Republic of.
  
  Users can not change this themselves obviously.
  [In the documentation](https://wiki.civicrm.org/confluence/display/CRMDOC/i18n+Administrator's+Guide:+Using+CiviCRM+in+your+own+language#i18nAdministrator'sGuide:UsingCiviCRMinyourownlanguage-CountriesandProvinces) it is stated:
  *The installed CiviCRM database contains both an ISO 3166-1-compliant list of countries, and a full, ISO 3166-2-compliant list of provinces (states, departments, voivodships, etc.).*
  
  However, this does not seem to be the case.
  
  Can somebody tell me if CiviCRM needs updating the countries (or may be I should add my question somewhere else?)
  
  **Tags:** contacts, addresses
  
  
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  ## 3 answers
  
  ### Answer by username_1 on 2020-01-06. Score: 1
  
  The particular issue is resolved in CiviCRM 5.21: See [release notes](https://civicrm.org/blog/dev-team/civicrm-521-release)
  
  * **Countries: Renamed "Macedonia, Republic of" to "North Macedonia".**
  
  others have commented on the wider point.
  
  
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  ### Answer by username_2 on 2019-08-02. Score: 1
  
  Yes at the moment the list is manually maintained (see <https://github.com/civicrm/civicrm-core/blob/5.15.2/xml/templates/civicrm_country.tpl#L172>). You can file an update request at <https://lab.civicrm.org/dev/core/issues>
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_2**: @betty-dolfing Looks like you filed one at https://lab.civicrm.org/dev/core/issues/1166 and there has been an update done at https://github.com/civicrm/civicrm-core/pull/15997 which should be in version 5.21.  
  
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  ### Answer by username_3 on 2020-01-06. Score: 0
  
  The country/province lists *do not* have the correct ISO 3166 numeric ids (ex 1228 for USA should be 240.
  
  This is important because everyone else uses ISO ids and in order to map the right country IDs for civi, you need to create a mapping table. PITA. Get it right!
  
  As well the country names do not all match.
  
  Why not just use the ISO data dumps to create these tables, like the rest of the world does? >SMH<
  
  This becomes very important when you need to create forms with addresses in them. You have to use one ID for civi and the correct ID for everything else....
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_2**: It's a fair point but the way stackexchange works this is likely to get downvoted because it's not an answer to the question that was asked. Can you instead repost this as a suggestion at https://lab.civicrm.org/dev/core/issues?  
  > **username_3**: Done... https://lab.civicrm.org/dev/core/issues/1509  Thx for suggestion!  
  
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