Body: <p>Is anyone else spending more time fixing things in CiviCrm than actually using it?</p>
  <p>Im on the latest version 5.49.1 and latest Drupal 9 version. Installed ckeditor5 (using embedded images as could not get paths to work).</p>
  <p>Every time I go to do a mailer its so painful - what should take me 10 minutes takes over an hour.</p>
  <p>Constant messages about not being able to save - have to come out, change template, turn ckeditor on off and on...</p>
  <p>Save a draft and go back in and nothing has been saved - start again.</p>
  <p>Schedule a mailer and then trigger the scheduled job (issue with cron)</p>
  <p>Mailer report says 90 emails delivered yet Im getting nothing - not even a test send. Drupal 9 recent log messages are so garbled its not easy to debug (D7 was a dream compared to 9).</p>
  <p>I also have issues with Stripe webhooks failing all the time and so many issues in the logs that I dont know where to start. TBH I spend so much time firefighting I think I need to look for another membership solution (sorry - rant over).</p>
  
Comments.ContentLicense: CC BY-SA 4.0
Comments.CreationDate: 2022-05-18T20:23:10.933Z
Comments.Text: hard to know where to start answering. we manage dozens of sites using CiviMail without the users complaining about using the mailer not saving changes etc etc
Comments.UserDisplayName: petednz - fuzion
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Comments.CreationDate: 2022-05-20T09:41:38.400Z
Comments.Text: Are you using ckeditor5, same civicrm version as me and sendmail? Mine was working with issues but now wont send.
Comments.UserDisplayName: kevster
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Comments.CreationDate: 2022-05-21T00:21:08.237Z
Comments.Text: the couple of sites i checked are using ckeditor4 and we generally send using mail()
Comments.UserDisplayName: petednz - fuzion
Tags: <civimail>
Title: Issues sending mailers to a group - not sending but report shows sent to 90 people
ThreadText: # Issues sending mailers to a group - not sending but report shows sent to 90 people
  
  (Asked by: username_0 on 2022-05-18)
  
  Is anyone else spending more time fixing things in CiviCrm than actually using it?
  
  Im on the latest version 5.49.1 and latest Drupal 9 version. Installed ckeditor5 (using embedded images as could not get paths to work).
  
  Every time I go to do a mailer its so painful - what should take me 10 minutes takes over an hour.
  
  Constant messages about not being able to save - have to come out, change template, turn ckeditor on off and on...
  
  Save a draft and go back in and nothing has been saved - start again.
  
  Schedule a mailer and then trigger the scheduled job (issue with cron)
  
  Mailer report says 90 emails delivered yet Im getting nothing - not even a test send. Drupal 9 recent log messages are so garbled its not easy to debug (D7 was a dream compared to 9).
  
  I also have issues with Stripe webhooks failing all the time and so many issues in the logs that I dont know where to start. TBH I spend so much time firefighting I think I need to look for another membership solution (sorry - rant over).
  
  **Tags:** civimail
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_1**: hard to know where to start answering. we manage dozens of sites using CiviMail without the users complaining about using the mailer not saving changes etc etc  
  > **username_0**: Are you using ckeditor5, same civicrm version as me and sendmail? Mine was working with issues but now wont send.  
  > **username_1**: the couple of sites i checked are using ckeditor4 and we generally send using mail()  
  
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