Answers.Body: <p>Yes that was one of the many changes in 5.31 related to screen readers and buttons and such. <a href="https://github.com/civicrm/civicrm-core/pull/17675" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://github.com/civicrm/civicrm-core/pull/17675</a></p>
  <p>It also inadvertently made all my contacts <a href="https://lab.civicrm.org/dev/core/-/issues/2118" rel="nofollow noreferrer">appear to be from Afghanistan</a>.</p>
  
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Answers.Text: It makes our forms look ugly. Are screen readers not able to read the labels beside the multiselect? At the very least, it could make Select with an uppercase S.
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Answers.Text: The PR above mentions that there are some longer term goals with Select2 which might make it unnecessary. And it mentions it might be awkward but is less awkward than the screen reader saying "None press button". You can open an issue or PR about the uppercase.
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Body: <p>Maybe I am just noticing things now but has select always included the label on drop down lists? I thought it used to say -none- when none was selected.</p>
  <p>Example from dmaster demo
  <a href="https://i.sstatic.net/MbbdU.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/MbbdU.png" alt="enter image description here" /></a></p>
  
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Title: Has select always included the label on drop down lists?
ThreadText: # Has select always included the label on drop down lists?
  
  (Asked by: username_0 on 2020-11-30)
  
  Maybe I am just noticing things now but has select always included the label on drop down lists? I thought it used to say -none- when none was selected.
  
  Example from dmaster demo
  [![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/MbbdU.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/MbbdU.png)
  
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  ### Answer by username_1 on 2020-11-30. Score: 0
  
  Yes that was one of the many changes in 5.31 related to screen readers and buttons and such. <https://github.com/civicrm/civicrm-core/pull/17675>
  
  It also inadvertently made all my contacts [appear to be from Afghanistan](https://lab.civicrm.org/dev/core/-/issues/2118).
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_0**: It makes our forms look ugly. Are screen readers not able to read the labels beside the multiselect? At the very least, it could make Select with an uppercase S.  
  > **username_1**: The PR above mentions that there are some longer term goals with Select2 which might make it unnecessary. And it mentions it might be awkward but is less awkward than the screen reader saying "None press button". You can open an issue or PR about the uppercase.  
  
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