Answers.Body: <p>You can check your ping on <code>lichess.org</code> by going <a href="https://www.lichess.org/lag" rel="nofollow noreferrer">here</a>. For <code>chess.com</code>, you can type <code>/ping</code> in the chat when playing a game by going <a href="https://www.chess.com/play/online" rel="nofollow noreferrer">here</a>.</p>
  <p>A trick to check ping on the <code>chess.com</code> app. (Btw, I think it'll be the same on the app and website) Go to New game -&gt; tournaments -&gt; Daily -&gt; Then in the top left you'll get the menu where you can go to Live chess page -&gt; Type /ping in chat.</p>
  <p>Edit: The Live server of <code>Chess.com</code> is in the primary data center in California. Following are the approximate ping for the regions on <code>chess.com</code>.</p>
  <ul>
  <li>12 ms for US connections</li>
  <li>156 ms for European connections</li>
  <li>145 ms for Asia-Pacific connections</li>
  </ul>
  <p><code>Lichess's</code> server is located in France. So, the ping would be lower in European countries and higher in other continents.</p>
  
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Body: <p>I wonder if there has been a test to compare connectivity to the major chess websites. Or whether it is easy to run such a test myself if needed.</p>
  <p>Here is what I mean to test:</p>
  <p>I am mainly playing on two websites (lichess.org and chess.com) and one one of these it frequently feels like I 'lose' seconds. Maybe it is only 1-5 seconds per time, and only once or twice per game, but still it adds up.</p>
  <p>I notice this only on one of these sites which makes me suspect it could be server side rather than my personal wifi and such. However, maybe it is a matter of perception, hence my interest in a benchmark or test.</p>
  <p>In case it is relevant:</p>
  <ul>
  <li>In both cases I mostly use the mobile web version from my android phone</li>
  <li>I am located near Amsterdam</li>
  <li>Outside the games I do not notice any slowness on the sites</li>
  </ul>
  <hr />
  <h2>What have I tried?</h2>
  <p>I ran the ping app on my phone, actually the site where I notice the weird behavior has lower ping time (but neither of them comes close to 1000ms), so I suspect it may not be a general connection issue but rather something that happens when playing games.</p>
  
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Comments.Text: I couldn't find a source right now but afaik premoves differ. In lichess you almost don't lose time on premoves where in chess.com you lose a couple miliseconds even if you premove. But this probably doesn't explain 1-5 seconds delay you mentioned. Edit: There is [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/chess/comments/frpw9d/do_premoves_on_chesscom_use_some_of_the_clock/) reddit post.
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Comments.Text: @Minot You lose 0.1 seconds per premove on chess.com (by design). It's nothing to do with connectivity.
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Comments.Text: Do you mean you use the web version from a browser in your phone? In that case consider trying the apps.
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Comments.Text: I will consider the app, but am still curious as to whether there is a way to measure 'in game latency spikes'
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Comments.Text: Switched to the app, and actually am seeing even much worse lag spikes where even if I premoved it sometimes costs me 4 sec, last game 3x. I understand this could be my local issue, but just want to measure the achieved connectivity difference between the sites in gameplay.
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Comments.Text: @MobeusZoom That's when you have a good connection. But if the connection is bad then the pre move time might take more than 0.1 s.
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Comments.Text: Lichess measures server lag [here](https://lichess.org/lag). [This chess.com](https://support.chess.com/article/357-what-is-lag-in-live-chess) article is also related, although it refers to players' problems
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Title: Connectivity comparison between chess websites?
ThreadText: # Connectivity comparison between chess websites?
  
  (Asked by: username_0 on 2021-11-13)
  
  I wonder if there has been a test to compare connectivity to the major chess websites. Or whether it is easy to run such a test myself if needed.
  
  Here is what I mean to test:
  
  I am mainly playing on two websites (lichess.org and chess.com) and one one of these it frequently feels like I 'lose' seconds. Maybe it is only 1-5 seconds per time, and only once or twice per game, but still it adds up.
  
  I notice this only on one of these sites which makes me suspect it could be server side rather than my personal wifi and such. However, maybe it is a matter of perception, hence my interest in a benchmark or test.
  
  In case it is relevant:
  
  * In both cases I mostly use the mobile web version from my android phone
  * I am located near Amsterdam
  * Outside the games I do not notice any slowness on the sites
  
  ---
  
  ## What have I tried?
  
  I ran the ping app on my phone, actually the site where I notice the weird behavior has lower ping time (but neither of them comes close to 1000ms), so I suspect it may not be a general connection issue but rather something that happens when playing games.
  
  **Tags:** lichess, websites, chess.com
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_1**: I couldn't find a source right now but afaik premoves differ. In lichess you almost don't lose time on premoves where in chess.com you lose a couple miliseconds even if you premove. But this probably doesn't explain 1-5 seconds delay you mentioned. Edit: There is [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/chess/comments/frpw9d/do_premoves_on_chesscom_use_some_of_the_clock/) reddit post.  
  > **username_2**: @username_1 You lose 0.1 seconds per premove on chess.com (by design). It's nothing to do with connectivity.  
  > **username_3**: Do you mean you use the web version from a browser in your phone? In that case consider trying the apps.  
  > **username_0**: I will consider the app, but am still curious as to whether there is a way to measure 'in game latency spikes'  
  > **username_0**: Switched to the app, and actually am seeing even much worse lag spikes where even if I premoved it sometimes costs me 4 sec, last game 3x. I understand this could be my local issue, but just want to measure the achieved connectivity difference between the sites in gameplay.  
  > **username_5**: Lichess measures server lag [here](https://lichess.org/lag). [This chess.com](https://support.chess.com/article/357-what-is-lag-in-live-chess) article is also related, although it refers to players' problems  
  > **username_4**: @username_2 That's when you have a good connection. But if the connection is bad then the pre move time might take more than 0.1 s.  
  
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  ## 1 answers
  
  ### Answer by username_4 on 2022-03-08. Score: 2
  
  You can check your ping on `lichess.org` by going [here](https://www.lichess.org/lag). For `chess.com`, you can type `/ping` in the chat when playing a game by going [here](https://www.chess.com/play/online).
  
  A trick to check ping on the `chess.com` app. (Btw, I think it'll be the same on the app and website) Go to New game -> tournaments -> Daily -> Then in the top left you'll get the menu where you can go to Live chess page -> Type /ping in chat.
  
  Edit: The Live server of `Chess.com` is in the primary data center in California. Following are the approximate ping for the regions on `chess.com`.
  
  * 12 ms for US connections
  * 156 ms for European connections
  * 145 ms for Asia-Pacific connections
  
  `Lichess's` server is located in France. So, the ping would be lower in European countries and higher in other continents.
  
  
  ---
  
  