Answers.Body: <p>White has easy ideas like <code>1. Nxe6 fxe6 2. Bxh6 gxh6 3. Qxh6</code> with ideas of <code>Rh3</code> to <code>g3</code>.</p>
  
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Answers.Text: `3...Rf6` with eval of ~ -1.5.
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Answers.Text: In general, Bxh6 can work well for this sort of position.  But in this specific case, black has plenty of defenders nearby and, according to both Stockfish and Leela, Bxh6 would be a serious mistake, with O-O-O instead being the best way for white to keep an advantage.
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Answers.Text: Maybe a good try in blitz, but otherwise premature.
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Answers.Body: <p>If we see from black prospective its pieces don't have a clear plan.For me as a player from black side I will try to bring the other rook on the king side. So as to defend the position strongly because black knight and bishop are having very less squares on the other hand white will bring his other rook on the king side with castling.Pushing those king side pawns makes it look horrible for because even if white is able to create one open file on the king side like g and h file.I don't see any defense for black and after then white can even sacrifice his bishop to get his queen in the game.If you think of taking black king to the other side of the board to me it looks to be very difficult.</p>
  
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Answers.Body: <p>It sounds like you want a more concrete answer than &quot;your light squares are now very weak&quot;, &quot;white has the bishop pair&quot;, and &quot;you've just created a hook for white to utilize by pushing the g-pawn to g5 [and you likely won't have h5 as a response]&quot;. Obviously your engine can give you the most concrete justifications, but I would argue that after 13.0-0-0, white will play f4 driving your knight back (f4 right away can be met by Bxh4+, so no need to rush it), followed by g4 and g5, busting open your kingside without even losing a pawn, I believe. The rook from d1 will join in. If you, as black, ever take hxg5, the h-file will open for white's h1 rook, and if not white will play f5 and then take on Bxh6, thereby having the bishop and queen also join in the attack.</p>
  
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Answers.Body: <p>By playing <code>11...h6</code>, you created a weakness on <code>g6</code>, and you created a target on <code>h6</code>, now it is easier for white to open up a position around your king by pushing their g-pawn. White also has a potential bishop sacrifice on h6.</p>
  <p>In general it is best to avoid pawn moves in front of your king, especially when facing a pawn storm.</p>
  
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Answers.Text: Also, after Nxe6, g6 becomes extremely weak. specially because white, unlike black, has its light squares bishop.
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Answers.Text: On top of that, White hasn't castled yet, so has the option of queenside castling (which may be what you're alluding to when you say "pawn storm", as queenside castling frees White's f, g, and h pawns to attack Black's king).
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Answers.Text: I think the two bishops are more important than the pawn weakness, as per YiFan's answer.  If you change 8.Be6 into either 8.Bf5 or 8.Bd7, keeping the rest of the game the same, then 11...h6 becomes a good move, since white can no longer play knight takes bishop.
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Body: <pre><code>rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1
  [Event &quot;?&quot;]
  [Site &quot;?&quot;]
  [Date &quot;????.??.??&quot;]
  [Round &quot;?&quot;]
  [White &quot;?&quot;]
  [Black &quot;?&quot;]
  [Result &quot;*&quot;]
  
  1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 d6 4. Nf3 Nxe4 5. Nc3 Nxc3 6. dxc3 Be7 7. Be3 O-O 8.
  Qd2 Be6 9. h4 Nc6 10. Be2 Ne5 11. Ng5 h6 12. Nxe6 fxe6 *
  </code></pre>
  <p>I (black) like playing the Petroff and my opponent answered with a Nimzowitsch attack. I tought that my position would be quite decent. After 11. .. h6 the engine turned from +-0 to +2 without losing any material. I understand that the move was not perfect positionally but could somebody explain the huge change?</p>
  
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Comments.Text: You've wasted a tempo and created permanent weaknesses around your king for no particular gain
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Comments.Text: Read about the concept of "hooks". The ...h6 move creates a "hook" in your kingside pawn structure that white can latch on to and attack more easily than if the pawns were all on the 7th rank. White's kingside pawn storm is a common theme in the 5.Nc3 Petroff, so it's something you have to be able to handle if you play this as black.
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Tags: <positional-play><evaluation><petroff-defense>
Title: Why is 11. .. h6 such a bad move?
ThreadText: # Why is 11. .. h6 such a bad move?
  
  (Asked by: username_0 on 2021-07-01)
  
  ```
  rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1
  [Event "?"]
  [Site "?"]
  [Date "????.??.??"]
  [Round "?"]
  [White "?"]
  [Black "?"]
  [Result "*"]
  
  1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 d6 4. Nf3 Nxe4 5. Nc3 Nxc3 6. dxc3 Be7 7. Be3 O-O 8.
  Qd2 Be6 9. h4 Nc6 10. Be2 Ne5 11. Ng5 h6 12. Nxe6 fxe6 *
  
  ```
  
  I (black) like playing the Petroff and my opponent answered with a Nimzowitsch attack. I tought that my position would be quite decent. After 11. .. h6 the engine turned from +-0 to +2 without losing any material. I understand that the move was not perfect positionally but could somebody explain the huge change?
  
  **Tags:** positional-play, evaluation, petroff-defense
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_1**: You've wasted a tempo and created permanent weaknesses around your king for no particular gain  
  > **username_2**: Read about the concept of "hooks". The ...h6 move creates a "hook" in your kingside pawn structure that white can latch on to and attack more easily than if the pawns were all on the 7th rank. White's kingside pawn storm is a common theme in the 5.Nc3 Petroff, so it's something you have to be able to handle if you play this as black.  
  
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  ## 4 answers
  
  ### Answer by username_9 on 2021-07-01. Score: 18 | Accepted answer
  
  By playing `11...h6`, you created a weakness on `g6`, and you created a target on `h6`, now it is easier for white to open up a position around your king by pushing their g-pawn. White also has a potential bishop sacrifice on h6.
  
  In general it is best to avoid pawn moves in front of your king, especially when facing a pawn storm.
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_10**: Also, after Nxe6, g6 becomes extremely weak. specially because white, unlike black, has its light squares bishop.  
  > **username_11**: On top of that, White hasn't castled yet, so has the option of queenside castling (which may be what you're alluding to when you say "pawn storm", as queenside castling frees White's f, g, and h pawns to attack Black's king).  
  > **username_5**: I think the two bishops are more important than the pawn weakness, as per YiFan's answer.  If you change 8.Be6 into either 8.Bf5 or 8.Bd7, keeping the rest of the game the same, then 11...h6 becomes a good move, since white can no longer play knight takes bishop.  
  
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  ### Answer by username_3 on 2021-07-01. Score: 4
  
  White has easy ideas like `1. Nxe6 fxe6 2. Bxh6 gxh6 3. Qxh6` with ideas of `Rh3` to `g3`.
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_4**: `3...Rf6` with eval of ~ -1.5.  
  > **username_5**: In general, Bxh6 can work well for this sort of position.  But in this specific case, black has plenty of defenders nearby and, according to both Stockfish and Leela, Bxh6 would be a serious mistake, with O-O-O instead being the best way for white to keep an advantage.  
  > **username_6**: Maybe a good try in blitz, but otherwise premature.  
  
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  ### Answer by username_7 on 2021-07-01. Score: 2
  
  If we see from black prospective its pieces don't have a clear plan.For me as a player from black side I will try to bring the other rook on the king side. So as to defend the position strongly because black knight and bishop are having very less squares on the other hand white will bring his other rook on the king side with castling.Pushing those king side pawns makes it look horrible for because even if white is able to create one open file on the king side like g and h file.I don't see any defense for black and after then white can even sacrifice his bishop to get his queen in the game.If you think of taking black king to the other side of the board to me it looks to be very difficult.
  
  
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  ### Answer by username_8 on 2021-07-03. Score: 2
  
  It sounds like you want a more concrete answer than "your light squares are now very weak", "white has the bishop pair", and "you've just created a hook for white to utilize by pushing the g-pawn to g5 [and you likely won't have h5 as a response]". Obviously your engine can give you the most concrete justifications, but I would argue that after 13.0-0-0, white will play f4 driving your knight back (f4 right away can be met by Bxh4+, so no need to rush it), followed by g4 and g5, busting open your kingside without even losing a pawn, I believe. The rook from d1 will join in. If you, as black, ever take hxg5, the h-file will open for white's h1 rook, and if not white will play f5 and then take on Bxh6, thereby having the bishop and queen also join in the attack.
  
  
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