Answers.Body: <p>Thank to Bojan Basic, who responded to my thread on the <a href="https://www.matplus.net/start.php?px=1560259404&amp;app=forum&amp;act=posts&amp;fid=gen&amp;tid=2304" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Matplus.net forum</a>, I now know what the knight problem is. But the bishop problem still remains unseen, it seems.</p>
  <p>This is Henrik's Juel predecessor problem. It can be found in the <a href="https://pdb.dieschwalbe.de/P0009134" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Die Schwable Chess Problem Database Server.</a></p>
  <pre><code>[Title &quot;Henrik Juel, Probleemblad 1/1999, Add a king and 9 Black knights for a mate in one&quot;]
  [FEN &quot;n7/7P/P7/8/8/1PKPP1P1/2P2P2/1N1N4 w - - 0 1&quot;]
  </code></pre>
  <p>Here is the improved problem that Guus Rol created. It is also in the <a href="https://pdb.dieschwalbe.de/P1298977" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Die Schwable Chess Problem Database Server.</a></p>
  <pre><code>[Title &quot;Henrik Juel &amp; Guus Rol, Probleemblad 05/1999, 4th Honorable Mention, Add a king and 10 Black knights for a mate in one&quot;]
  [FEN &quot;8/7P/8/P7/6K1/1P1PP1P1/2P2P2/2NN4 w - - 0 1&quot;]
  </code></pre>
  <p>Lastly, although it is not the 10 bishops problem, this problem is a nice one that captures the essence of it what it may be. Once more, it is in the <a href="https://pdb.dieschwalbe.de/P0008936" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Die Schwable Chess Problem Database Server.</a></p>
  <pre><code>[Title &quot;Henrik Juel. Probleemblad, 5/1997, Add a mating bishop&quot;]
  [FEN &quot;b3B3/1k1B3B/7b/1B3b1B/B6b/3b1K1b/7B/1BbBbbB1 w - - 0 1&quot;]
  </code></pre>
  
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Answers.Text: No, the answer is a black bishop on d5. You should use logical reasoning to work out the answer, not gut feel based on the "difficulty" of a problem. As you have worked out, the answer should be a black light bishop. So we have 8 light + 2 dark white bishops, and 6 light + 4 dark black bishops. White therefore promoted 7 light and 1 dark bishop; this needs 5 captures (e.g. bxa, dxc, fxe, and a cross-capture gxh+hxg.) Black promoted 5 light and 3 dark bishops; together with white's captures, this needs 5 more captures (e.g. axb, cxd, exf, dxc and fxe; g- and h-pawns went straight.) (continued)
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Answers.Text: (continued) Therefore all 10 missing units were captured by pawns trying to avoid each other, which means that the captures cannot have occurred on the 1st or 8th ranks. So ...gxh1B# as the last move is impossible. Incidentally, an 11th capture is out of the question too (so not a black bishop on e4). The solution is therefore to add a black bishop on d5.
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Answers.Text: Also with regards to the problems, I suspect these are still not the problems referenced by Krabbé. The first one you were given (+9 knights) seems to be the "earlier composition by Juel" that was later improved by Guus Rol into an add-10-knights problem. The second problem you were given is not the same theme of problem (only adding 1 bishop) but amusing nevertheless.
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Answers.Body: <p>Henrik Juel's three &quot;add pieces&quot; problems listed above (together with a fourth one) are all to be found, together with detailed solutions <a href="https://pdb.dieschwalbe.de/search.jsp?expression=a%3D%27juel%27+AND+K%3D%27Erg%C3%A4nze+Steine%27" rel="nofollow noreferrer">in PDB, using the query: a='juel' and K='add pieces'</a>.</p>
  <p>Here is the superb fourth one, with its surprising solution...</p>
  <pre><code>[Title &quot;Henrik Juel. Probleemblad, 5/1997. Add a unit. What was the last move?&quot;]
  [FEN &quot;4k3/ppp1pp2/4pp2/8/3P4/3P2P1/1PpP1PP1/2K5 w - - 0 1&quot;]
  </code></pre>
  
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Body: <p>In his article <a href="https://timkr.home.xs4all.nl/tour/horse.htm" rel="nofollow noreferrer">“The Horse Concoction&quot;</a>, Tim Krabbe mentions retrograde analysis problems that involve placing 10 rooks, knights, or bishops on the board for a mate in 1. The 10 rooks problem shown (it also <a href="https://chess.stackexchange.com/questions/13952/how-is-this-retrograde-analysis-position-legal">on</a> site).  However, the other two by Henrik Juel and Guus Rol are only mentioned. Who made which is unclear, although suspect that it goes respectively.</p>
  <p>Here is the relevant portion of the article.</p>
  <blockquote>
  <p>&quot;In the last few years this old idea, where all the pawns of one or even both sides promote to one kind of piece, had been taken up again by the Dane Henrik Juel and the Dutchman Guus Rol - first with Bishops, then with Knights. And when Goldsteen saw Rol's latest version of an earlier composition by Juel, something unusual happened to him: he was jealous. He was just pissed off that he hadn't thought of Juel's and Rol's ten-knight problem (add ten black Knights to a given position so that White can mate in 1).&quot;</p>
  </blockquote>
  <p>Can these problems be found online? I would love to see them out of curiosity and to learn more about retrograde analysis.</p>
  
Tags: <problems><retrograde-analysis><identify-this>
Title: Where can I find these mentioned chess problems?
ThreadText: # Where can I find these mentioned chess problems?
  
  (Asked by: username_0 on 2019-05-21)
  
  In his article [“The Horse Concoction"](https://timkr.home.xs4all.nl/tour/horse.htm), Tim Krabbe mentions retrograde analysis problems that involve placing 10 rooks, knights, or bishops on the board for a mate in 1. The 10 rooks problem shown (it also [on](https://chess.stackexchange.com/questions/13952/how-is-this-retrograde-analysis-position-legal) site). However, the other two by Henrik Juel and Guus Rol are only mentioned. Who made which is unclear, although suspect that it goes respectively.
  
  Here is the relevant portion of the article.
  
  > "In the last few years this old idea, where all the pawns of one or even both sides promote to one kind of piece, had been taken up again by the Dane Henrik Juel and the Dutchman Guus Rol - first with Bishops, then with Knights. And when Goldsteen saw Rol's latest version of an earlier composition by Juel, something unusual happened to him: he was jealous. He was just pissed off that he hadn't thought of Juel's and Rol's ten-knight problem (add ten black Knights to a given position so that White can mate in 1)."
  
  Can these problems be found online? I would love to see them out of curiosity and to learn more about retrograde analysis.
  
  **Tags:** problems, retrograde-analysis, identify-this
  
  
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  ## 2 answers
  
  ### Answer by username_0 on 2019-06-11. Score: 0 | Accepted answer
  
  Thank to Bojan Basic, who responded to my thread on the [Matplus.net forum](https://www.matplus.net/start.php?px=1560259404&app=forum&act=posts&fid=gen&tid=2304), I now know what the knight problem is. But the bishop problem still remains unseen, it seems.
  
  This is Henrik's Juel predecessor problem. It can be found in the [Die Schwable Chess Problem Database Server.](https://pdb.dieschwalbe.de/P0009134)
  
  ```
  [Title "Henrik Juel, Probleemblad 1/1999, Add a king and 9 Black knights for a mate in one"]
  [FEN "n7/7P/P7/8/8/1PKPP1P1/2P2P2/1N1N4 w - - 0 1"]
  
  ```
  
  Here is the improved problem that Guus Rol created. It is also in the [Die Schwable Chess Problem Database Server.](https://pdb.dieschwalbe.de/P1298977)
  
  ```
  [Title "Henrik Juel & Guus Rol, Probleemblad 05/1999, 4th Honorable Mention, Add a king and 10 Black knights for a mate in one"]
  [FEN "8/7P/8/P7/6K1/1P1PP1P1/2P2P2/2NN4 w - - 0 1"]
  
  ```
  
  Lastly, although it is not the 10 bishops problem, this problem is a nice one that captures the essence of it what it may be. Once more, it is in the [Die Schwable Chess Problem Database Server.](https://pdb.dieschwalbe.de/P0008936)
  
  ```
  [Title "Henrik Juel. Probleemblad, 5/1997, Add a mating bishop"]
  [FEN "b3B3/1k1B3B/7b/1B3b1B/B6b/3b1K1b/7B/1BbBbbB1 w - - 0 1"]
  
  ```
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_1**: No, the answer is a black bishop on d5. You should use logical reasoning to work out the answer, not gut feel based on the "difficulty" of a problem. As you have worked out, the answer should be a black light bishop. So we have 8 light + 2 dark white bishops, and 6 light + 4 dark black bishops. White therefore promoted 7 light and 1 dark bishop; this needs 5 captures (e.g. bxa, dxc, fxe, and a cross-capture gxh+hxg.) Black promoted 5 light and 3 dark bishops; together with white's captures, this needs 5 more captures (e.g. axb, cxd, exf, dxc and fxe; g- and h-pawns went straight.) (continued)  
  > **username_1**: (continued) Therefore all 10 missing units were captured by pawns trying to avoid each other, which means that the captures cannot have occurred on the 1st or 8th ranks. So ...gxh1B# as the last move is impossible. Incidentally, an 11th capture is out of the question too (so not a black bishop on e4). The solution is therefore to add a black bishop on d5.  
  > **username_1**: Also with regards to the problems, I suspect these are still not the problems referenced by Krabbé. The first one you were given (+9 knights) seems to be the "earlier composition by Juel" that was later improved by Guus Rol into an add-10-knights problem. The second problem you were given is not the same theme of problem (only adding 1 bishop) but amusing nevertheless.  
  
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  ### Answer by username_2 on 2021-03-07. Score: 1
  
  Henrik Juel's three "add pieces" problems listed above (together with a fourth one) are all to be found, together with detailed solutions [in PDB, using the query: a='juel' and K='add pieces'](https://pdb.dieschwalbe.de/search.jsp?expression=a%3D%27juel%27+AND+K%3D%27Erg%C3%A4nze+Steine%27).
  
  Here is the superb fourth one, with its surprising solution...
  
  ```
  [Title "Henrik Juel. Probleemblad, 5/1997. Add a unit. What was the last move?"]
  [FEN "4k3/ppp1pp2/4pp2/8/3P4/3P2P1/1PpP1PP1/2K5 w - - 0 1"]
  
  ```
  
  
  ---
  
  