Answers.Body: <p>Here is a <a href="https://ratings.fide.com/tournament_details.phtml?event=181252" rel="nofollow noreferrer">link to the FIDE record for a norm tournament</a> where I was the chief arbiter. Two or three lines up from the bottom it says "PGN file" and next to it is a <a href="https://ratings.fide.com/view_games.phtml?event=181252" rel="nofollow noreferrer">brownish icon</a>. If you click on it you can see a list of all the games with the possibility to play through them in a PGN viewer or to download them.</p>
  
  <p>Here is a link to a <a href="http://chess-results.com/tnr478518.aspx?lan=1&amp;art=1&amp;rd=7&amp;fed=SCO&amp;turdet=NO&amp;flag=30" rel="nofollow noreferrer">low level (Minor) tournament</a> I played in a few weeks ago. Towards the bottom of the header it says "Games: <a href="http://chess-results.com/PartieSuche.aspx?lan=1&amp;id=50023&amp;tnr=478518&amp;art=3" rel="nofollow noreferrer">There are 59 games available for download</a>". Clicking on the link gives you options to download games by round or to download all the entered games for the tournament.</p>
  
  <p>These games have been entered and uploaded by arbiters and their assistants (cue for you to say "Thank you, arbiters!"). Some of this work (norm events) is done because it is a FIDE requirement. Some of it (like the low level tournament I played in) is done out of the goodness of the arbiters' hearts.</p>
  
  <p>Generally speaking if you enter a tournament and the scoresheets provided are single copy then your game won't end up in an online database and if it is a two-copy scoresheet then it will. The two-copy scoresheets cost more and a tournament organiser would not waste money on them unless the games were to be recorded and uploaded.</p>
  
  <p>People who run websites that include all the games they can find have written bots which crawl the web (or at least select parts of it) looking for PGNs which they download and add to their collection for their website or database.</p>
  
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Body: <p>How do games of players that are not so well known, or not huge events end up in Chessbase and other databases? What are the different ways that games are cataloged? </p>
  
  <p>If they are not playing on an electronic board in a televised event, are carbon copies being deposited in a box and someone is inputting all the moves? I have played in tournaments with many lesser known GMs and IMs but it hasn't appeared to be any obvious mechanism for how games might end up in one of the databases. </p>
  
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Comments.Text: Brian Towers gave the general view. Just as a concrete example... Where I play (German 3rd league), all games played have to be made available online. In practice entering the games is done by the team captain of the home team. Score sheets are two-copy of which one copy the players can keep. Rating levels in that league are about 1800 to 2200. There is no requirement for electronic versions of games in lower (4th  and beyond) leagues (at least in my part of Germany).
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Comments.Text: @user1583209 Thanks for the comment, that helps explain some of the non-master games. How do they make them available online then? Where?
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Comments.Text: They are available online for anybody on the local association's website and for download (password protected for participating teams).
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Title: How do OTB games end up in databases?
ThreadText: # How do OTB games end up in databases?
  
  (Asked by: username_0 on 2019-11-11)
  
  How do games of players that are not so well known, or not huge events end up in Chessbase and other databases? What are the different ways that games are cataloged?
  
  If they are not playing on an electronic board in a televised event, are carbon copies being deposited in a box and someone is inputting all the moves? I have played in tournaments with many lesser known GMs and IMs but it hasn't appeared to be any obvious mechanism for how games might end up in one of the databases.
  
  **Tags:** database, otb-chess
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_1**: username_2 username_2 gave the general view. Just as a concrete example... Where I play (German 3rd league), all games played have to be made available online. In practice entering the games is done by the team captain of the home team. Score sheets are two-copy of which one copy the players can keep. Rating levels in that league are about 1800 to 2200. There is no requirement for electronic versions of games in lower (4th  and beyond) leagues (at least in my part of Germany).  
  > **username_0**: @username_1 Thanks for the comment, that helps explain some of the non-master games. How do they make them available online then? Where?  
  > **username_1**: They are available online for anybody on the local association's website and for download (password protected for participating teams).  
  
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  ### Answer by username_2 on 2019-11-11. Score: 4 | Accepted answer
  
  Here is a [link to the FIDE record for a norm tournament](https://ratings.fide.com/tournament_details.phtml?event=181252) where I was the chief arbiter. Two or three lines up from the bottom it says "PGN file" and next to it is a [brownish icon](https://ratings.fide.com/view_games.phtml?event=181252). If you click on it you can see a list of all the games with the possibility to play through them in a PGN viewer or to download them.
  
  Here is a link to a [low level (Minor) tournament](http://chess-results.com/tnr478518.aspx?lan=1&art=1&rd=7&fed=SCO&turdet=NO&flag=30) I played in a few weeks ago. Towards the bottom of the header it says "Games: [There are 59 games available for download](http://chess-results.com/PartieSuche.aspx?lan=1&id=50023&tnr=478518&art=3)". Clicking on the link gives you options to download games by round or to download all the entered games for the tournament.
  
  These games have been entered and uploaded by arbiters and their assistants (cue for you to say "Thank you, arbiters!"). Some of this work (norm events) is done because it is a FIDE requirement. Some of it (like the low level tournament I played in) is done out of the goodness of the arbiters' hearts.
  
  Generally speaking if you enter a tournament and the scoresheets provided are single copy then your game won't end up in an online database and if it is a two-copy scoresheet then it will. The two-copy scoresheets cost more and a tournament organiser would not waste money on them unless the games were to be recorded and uploaded.
  
  People who run websites that include all the games they can find have written bots which crawl the web (or at least select parts of it) looking for PGNs which they download and add to their collection for their website or database.
  
  
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