Answers.Body: <p>Whoever moves first is stalemated. There are four possible first moves for both sides, thus creating four variations.</p>
  <pre><code>[FEN &quot;8/8/8/1p1p1p1p/8/1P1PpP1P/4Pp1p/5K1k w - - 0 1&quot;]
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Answers.Text: Of course I meant a onemover (you can also push the black pawns one file further back) but not accounting for tricky problemists fully goes on the asker :-)
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Body: <p>Ludwig Zagler, Chess Ultimates 12/1974</p>
  <pre><code>[FEN &quot;3nBb2/3PRP2/2ppPPpp/2nk2pb/2p2QN1/1r1rBKP1/7q/8 w - - 0 0&quot;]
  </code></pre>
  <p>self=1, 7 solutions</p>
  <p>This is the record (7 variants) for forced single side selfstalemates. I expect that Zagler, who even made a systematic for one-mover records, also did the duplex version (<em>any</em> move for <em>both</em> sides selfstalemates), but could not dig it up on the existing databases.</p>
  <p>Since one white and one black selfstalemate can be easily done with 8 pieces, please give at least 3 overall (or a link to an existing record).</p>
  
Tags: <problems><records><stalemate>
Title: Duplex forced selfstalemate
ThreadText: # Duplex forced selfstalemate
  
  (Asked by: username_0 on 2022-02-08)
  
  Ludwig Zagler, Chess Ultimates 12/1974
  
  ```
  [FEN "3nBb2/3PRP2/2ppPPpp/2nk2pb/2p2QN1/1r1rBKP1/7q/8 w - - 0 0"]
  
  ```
  
  self=1, 7 solutions
  
  This is the record (7 variants) for forced single side selfstalemates. I expect that Zagler, who even made a systematic for one-mover records, also did the duplex version (*any* move for *both* sides selfstalemates), but could not dig it up on the existing databases.
  
  Since one white and one black selfstalemate can be easily done with 8 pieces, please give at least 3 overall (or a link to an existing record).
  
  **Tags:** problems, records, stalemate
  
  
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  ## 1 answers
  
  ### Answer by username_1 on 2022-02-08. Score: 1
  
  Whoever moves first is stalemated. There are four possible first moves for both sides, thus creating four variations.
  
  ```
  [FEN "8/8/8/1p1p1p1p/8/1P1PpP1P/4Pp1p/5K1k w - - 0 1"]
  
  ```
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_0**: Of course I meant a onemover (you can also push the black pawns one file further back) but not accounting for tricky problemists fully goes on the asker :-)  
  
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