Answers.Body: <p>When played in the 19th and early 20th centuries, the Evans gambit was a terrifying opening that put Black on the defensive for a long time.</p>
  
  <p>That's until modern theory discovered that Black can get a fully equal game by returning the pawn at the right time (this is generally true of most king pawn gambits, which is why they aren't played much nowadays).</p>
  
  <p>Today's Black players don't mind Evans gambits because it is an easier way to get an "equal" game that most other openings.</p>
  
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Answers.Text: That's true in the Lasker Defense but white can avoid the Lasker defense.
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Answers.Body: <p>White can maintain a solid positional advantage in the declined and has a pretty fair amount of traps. I don't think it's a good line for black. It's a line where black is trying to navigate a minefield to get to a draw.</p>
  
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Answers.Body: <blockquote>
    <p>Evans gambit is not popular anymore. </p>
  </blockquote>
  
  <p>The problem with the <em>Evans gambit</em> comes when Black <strong>accepts</strong> the gambit since he can return the gambit pawn <strong>in proper moment</strong> to defuse White's attack. </p>
  
  <p>This is the crucial line:</p>
  
  <pre><code>[fen ""]
  
   1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.b4 Bxb4 5.c3 Ba5 6.d4 d6 7.Qb3 Qd7 8.dxe5 Bb6!=
  </code></pre>
  
  <p>Until this day nobody was able to find edge for White-that is why nobody plays it anymore.</p>
  
  <blockquote>
    <p>I looked at it and I don't see anything wrong with it. I can't go over all the variations here, but you could look for an article or a Youtube video</p>
  </blockquote>
  
  <p><strong>Forget the <code>YouTube</code></strong> and find opinions of the strongest Grandmasters.</p>
  
  <p>Quality of those videos is usually low, as they intend to get subscribers by showing them attractive variations instead objectively the best lines.</p>
  
  <p><strong>Not a single theoretical main line</strong> was examined properly-only sidelines that give Black poor play.</p>
  
  <blockquote>
    <p>I can only see black losing, so what's wrong with Evans Gambit declined? </p>
  </blockquote>
  
  <p>Declining the gambit is <strong>not the best option</strong> for Black. White has no problems <strong>since he gets the initiative</strong> because his opening idea was fulfilled. He will use his free tempo to further hinder coordination of the Black pieces.</p>
  
  <p>Still, Black has good play in all lines, but <strong>must defend first for a long time, and attack later.</strong></p>
  
  <blockquote>
    <p>Am I missing a variation?</p>
  </blockquote>
  
  <p>If all your sources provide as "quality" coverage as the video you linked to-then yes, you <strong>do miss a lot.</strong></p>
  
  <p>I will quote the <strong>Chess Informant ECO 2006</strong> for the lines in Evans gambit declined:</p>
  
  <p><code>LEGEND OF SYMBOLS:</code></p>
  
  <p><code>+/=</code>    Minimal advantage for White</p>
  
  <p><code>=/+</code>    Minimal advantage for Black</p>
  
  <p><code>+/-</code>    White is better</p>
  
  <p><code>-/+</code>    Black is better</p>
  
  <p><code>=/∞</code>    Compensation for material</p>
  
  <p><code>∞</code>      Unclear</p>
  
  <p><code>+-</code>     White wins</p>
  
  <p><code>-+</code>     Black wins</p>
  
  <p><code>-&gt;</code>     Attack</p>
  
  <p><code>↑</code>      Initiative</p>
  
  <pre><code>[fen ""]
  
  1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.b4 Bb6 (4...d5 5.exd5 Nb4 6.O-O Nf6 7.Nxe5 Nbxd5 8.d4 Bd6 9.Bg5 c6 10.Nd2 O-O 11.Qf3 h6 12.Bh4 Be6 13.Rab1+/=) 5.a4 ( 5.Bb2 d6 6.a4 a6 7.b5 axb5 8.axb5 Rxa1 9.Bxa1 Nd4 10.Nxd4 exd4 11.c3 Nf6 12.O-O O-O 13.d3 d5= ) ( 5.b5 Na5 6.Nxe5 Nh6 ( 6...Bd4 7.Nxf7 Qf6 8.Qe2 Nxc4 9.Nxh8 Ne5 10.Nc3 Ne7 11.Bb2+/= ) 7.d4 d6 8.Bxh6 dxe5! 9.Bxg7 Rg8 10.Bxf7+ Kxf7 11.Bxe5 Qg5 12.Nd2 ( 12.Nc3? Nc4-/+ ) 12...Be6 13.Qf3 Ke7 14.O-O-O! Raf8 15.Qa3+ Kd8 16.f4 Qe7!? 17.Qxe7+ Kxe7 18.g3 Bxa2∞ ) 5...a6 ( 5...a5 6.b5 Nd4 7.Nxd4 ( 7.Nxe5 Qg5 8.O-O ( 8.Bxf7+ Kf8 9.Ng4=/∞ ) 8...Qxe5 9.c3 Ne6 10.Re1 Nf6 ( 10...Bxf2 11.Kxf2 Qc5+ 12.d4 Qxc4 13.Re3 Nf8 14.d5 Qc5 15.Ba3 Qb6 16.d6=/∞↑)  11.d4 Nxd4 12.cxd4 Qxd4 (12...Bxd4 13.Ra2=/∞ ) 13.Qe2!? (13.Qxd4!? Bxd4 14.Ra2=/∞ ) 13...Qxa1 14.e5=/∞↑ ) 7...Bxd4 8.c3 Bb6 9.d4 Qe7 (9...exd4 10.O-O! Ne7 11.Bg5 h6 12.Bxe7 Qxe7 13.cxd4 Qb4 14.Na3 O-O 15.Qd3 d5! 16.exd5 Bd7 17.Nc2 Qd6 18.Ne3+/= ) 10.O-O ( 10.Qg4 Nf6 11.Qxg7 Rg8 12.Qh6 Rg6∞ ) 10...d6 11.f4 ( 11.Be3!? ) 11...Be6 12.Na3 exd4 13.cxd4 O-O-O 14.Be2 Nf6 15.Bf3 d5 16.e5 Ne4 17.Nc2 h5!= ) 6.Nc3 Nf6 7.Nd5 ( 7.d4 Bxd4!? ( 7...exd4 8.Nd5 Nxd5 9.exd5 Qe7 10.Kf1! Ne5 11.d6 cxd6 12.Bd5=/∞ ) 8.Nxd4 Nxd4 9.f4 ( 9.O-O d6 10.f4 Be6! 11.Bxe6 fxe6 12.Be3 Nc6 13.b5 axb5 14.axb5 Rxa1 15.Qxa1 Ng4!? 16.bxc6 Nxe3 17.Qa2 Nxf1 18.Qxe6 Qe7 19.Qc8+ Qd8 20.cxb7 O-O 21.Nd5! Kf7 22.Qf5+ Kg8 23.Qc8= ) 9...d6 10.O-O O-O 11.fxe5 dxe5 12.Nd5 Be6 13.Nxf6+ gxf6 14.Bd3 Qe7 ( 14...Nb3? 15.cxb3 Qd4+ 16.Kh1 Qxa1 17.Qf3!+--&gt;) 15.Bh6 Rfd8∞) 7...Nxd5 ( 7...Nxe4 8.O-O d6 9.d3 Nf6 10.Bg5+/= ) 8.exd5 Nd4 ( 8...e4?+/- ) 9.a5 Ba7 10.d6 ( 10.O-O?!=/+ ) 10...cxd6 11.O-O O-O 12.Nxd4 Bxd4 13.c3 Ba7 14.Qf3=/∞
  </code></pre>
  
  <blockquote>
    <p>How could black win against Evans Gambit declined?</p>
  </blockquote>
  
  <p>How could he not win?</p>
  
  <p>In all the variations above Black has sufficient counter-play and equal chances to win.</p>
  
  <p>He will first try to parry White's initiative, and then he will have won endgame due to his healthier pawn structure and White being overextended-this is a standard plan for Black in most openings.</p>
  
  <p>Summary:</p>
  
  <p><em>Evans gambit</em> is not popular anymore because White does not get the attack he hoped for, and after Black properly returns the pawn he has better <strong>or at least equal</strong> chances in the endgame. Why would anyone play with White just to fight an uphill battle to draw?</p>
  
  <p>As for the declined variation, White will get lasting initiative but Black still holds. In all lines <strong>quoted above</strong> Black has sufficient counter-play and both players need to play accurate in order not to lose.</p>
  
  <p>For a detailed coverage of the <em>Evans gambit</em> find repertoire books like <a href="http://rads.stackoverflow.com/amzn/click/0938650750" rel="noreferrer"><em>The Great Evans Gambit Debate</em></a> series or <a href="http://rads.stackoverflow.com/amzn/click/1857441192" rel="noreferrer"><em>Play the Evans gambit-Tim Harding</em></a>.</p>
  
  <p>Hopefully this answer sheds some light. If you have further questions leave a comment and I will try to respond as soon as possible.</p>
  
  <p>Best regards.</p>
  
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Body: <p>According to <a href="https://chess.stackexchange.com/questions/297/what-are-openings-which-were-once-thought-good-but-are-now-shown-to-be-inferior/300#300">this answer</a>, Evans gambit is not popular anymore. I looked at it and I don't see anything wrong with it. I can't go over all the variations here, but you could look for an article or a Youtube video, I chose <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-IMsSOtXDg" rel="nofollow noreferrer">this one</a>.</p>
  
  <p>I can only see black losing, so what's wrong with Evans Gambit declined? Am I missing a variation?</p>
  
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Comments.Text: I don't think any lack of popularity for the Evans among White players is due to lines in which the gambit is *declined*. Rather, the general worry is about White not getting enough when Black *accepts* the gambit via `4...Bxb4`.
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Comments.Text: *"How could black win against Evans Gambit declined?"* Did you mean-*How could black win in Evans Gambit declined?* ? It is important for me to understand your question properly since I am preparing to improve my answer. If you could respond to my comment I could offer an answer of higher quality. Thank you. Best regards.
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Comments.Text: @AlwaysLearningNewStuff yes that's what I mean, well white plays Evans gambit, black declines it, so yes how could black wins in evans gambit
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Comments.Text: It's an extremely broad question since four moves have been played and anything can still happen.
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Comments.Text: @RemcoGerlich did you watch the video? White wins in all the variations
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Comments.Text: You got two very good answers plus a good comment from *Ed Dean* that answers your question, but you still haven't accepted any solution and you got a downvote in the meantime as far as I can see ( I was the only one upvoting this question, but now it has total score of zero, hence my conclusion ). Consider editing your question-here are some questions that can point you in a right direction: What is that you exactly ask here? What do you seek-concrete lines or opinion? Do you need commenting of the lines in that `YouTube` video in your link? This is a constructive critique. Best regards.
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Comments.Text: @AlwaysLearningNewStuff I was busy, I don't visit SE daily, and I like to keep my questions open for a while to give other people a chance to answer, for example `Tom Au`. I ask questions to discuss stuff, I was going to accept yours eventually, no need to get mad about it.
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Comments.Text: I am not mad, **you have misunderstood my comment**. I do not force anyone to accept my answers. I just saw you got your question downvoted and **I felt it to be unjust** since the question is well phrased and useful ( that is why I upvoted it ). **To prevent further downvoting and to help keeping this question "alive"**, I posted my comment to **instruct you how to improve your question** so you do not get further downvotes and so the question can stay "alive". That was all. If you have read my comment carefully you would realize this. Best regards.
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Tags: <opening><theory><evans-gambit>
Title: Is the Evans Gambit declined good for black?
ThreadText: # Is the Evans Gambit declined good for black?
  
  (Asked by: username_0 on 2014-01-28)
  
  According to [this answer](https://chess.stackexchange.com/questions/297/what-are-openings-which-were-once-thought-good-but-are-now-shown-to-be-inferior/300#300), Evans gambit is not popular anymore. I looked at it and I don't see anything wrong with it. I can't go over all the variations here, but you could look for an article or a Youtube video, I chose [this one](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-IMsSOtXDg).
  
  I can only see black losing, so what's wrong with Evans Gambit declined? Am I missing a variation?
  
  **Tags:** opening, theory, evans-gambit
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_1**: I don't think any lack of popularity for the Evans among White players is due to lines in which the gambit is *declined*. Rather, the general worry is about White not getting enough when Black *accepts* the gambit via `4...Bxb4`.  
  > **username_2**: *"How could black win against Evans Gambit declined?"* Did you mean-*How could black win in Evans Gambit declined?* ? It is important for me to understand your question properly since I am preparing to improve my answer. If you could respond to my comment I could offer an answer of higher quality. Thank you. Best regards.  
  > **username_0**: @username_2 yes that's what I mean, well white plays Evans gambit, black declines it, so yes how could black wins in evans gambit  
  > **username_3**: It's an extremely broad question since four moves have been played and anything can still happen.  
  > **username_0**: @username_3 did you watch the video? White wins in all the variations  
  > **username_2**: You got two very good answers plus a good comment from *Ed Dean* that answers your question, but you still haven't accepted any solution and you got a downvote in the meantime as far as I can see ( I was the only one upvoting this question, but now it has total score of zero, hence my conclusion ). Consider editing your question-here are some questions that can point you in a right direction: What is that you exactly ask here? What do you seek-concrete lines or opinion? Do you need commenting of the lines in that `YouTube` video in your link? This is a constructive critique. Best regards.  
  > **username_0**: @username_2 I was busy, I don't visit SE daily, and I like to keep my questions open for a while to give other people a chance to answer, for example `username_4`. I ask questions to discuss stuff, I was going to accept yours eventually, no need to get mad about it.  
  > **username_2**: I am not mad, **you have misunderstood my comment**. I do not force anyone to accept my answers. I just saw you got your question downvoted and **I felt it to be unjust** since the question is well phrased and useful ( that is why I upvoted it ). **To prevent further downvoting and to help keeping this question "alive"**, I posted my comment to **instruct you how to improve your question** so you do not get further downvotes and so the question can stay "alive". That was all. If you have read my comment carefully you would realize this. Best regards.  
  
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  ## 3 answers
  
  ### Answer by username_2 on 2014-01-28. Score: 6 | Accepted answer
  
  > Evans gambit is not popular anymore.
  
  The problem with the *Evans gambit* comes when Black **accepts** the gambit since he can return the gambit pawn **in proper moment** to defuse White's attack.
  
  This is the crucial line:
  
  ```
  [fen ""]
  
   1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.b4 Bxb4 5.c3 Ba5 6.d4 d6 7.Qb3 Qd7 8.dxe5 Bb6!=
  
  ```
  
  Until this day nobody was able to find edge for White-that is why nobody plays it anymore.
  
  > I looked at it and I don't see anything wrong with it. I can't go over all the variations here, but you could look for an article or a Youtube video
  
  **Forget the `YouTube`** and find opinions of the strongest Grandmasters.
  
  Quality of those videos is usually low, as they intend to get subscribers by showing them attractive variations instead objectively the best lines.
  
  **Not a single theoretical main line** was examined properly-only sidelines that give Black poor play.
  
  > I can only see black losing, so what's wrong with Evans Gambit declined?
  
  Declining the gambit is **not the best option** for Black. White has no problems **since he gets the initiative** because his opening idea was fulfilled. He will use his free tempo to further hinder coordination of the Black pieces.
  
  Still, Black has good play in all lines, but **must defend first for a long time, and attack later.**
  
  > Am I missing a variation?
  
  If all your sources provide as "quality" coverage as the video you linked to-then yes, you **do miss a lot.**
  
  I will quote the **Chess Informant ECO 2006** for the lines in Evans gambit declined:
  
  `LEGEND OF SYMBOLS:`
  
  `+/=` Minimal advantage for White
  
  `=/+` Minimal advantage for Black
  
  `+/-` White is better
  
  `-/+` Black is better
  
  `=/∞` Compensation for material
  
  `∞` Unclear
  
  `+-` White wins
  
  `-+` Black wins
  
  `->` Attack
  
  `↑` Initiative
  
  ```
  [fen ""]
  
  1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.b4 Bb6 (4...d5 5.exd5 Nb4 6.O-O Nf6 7.Nxe5 Nbxd5 8.d4 Bd6 9.Bg5 c6 10.Nd2 O-O 11.Qf3 h6 12.Bh4 Be6 13.Rab1+/=) 5.a4 ( 5.Bb2 d6 6.a4 a6 7.b5 axb5 8.axb5 Rxa1 9.Bxa1 Nd4 10.Nxd4 exd4 11.c3 Nf6 12.O-O O-O 13.d3 d5= ) ( 5.b5 Na5 6.Nxe5 Nh6 ( 6...Bd4 7.Nxf7 Qf6 8.Qe2 Nxc4 9.Nxh8 Ne5 10.Nc3 Ne7 11.Bb2+/= ) 7.d4 d6 8.Bxh6 dxe5! 9.Bxg7 Rg8 10.Bxf7+ Kxf7 11.Bxe5 Qg5 12.Nd2 ( 12.Nc3? Nc4-/+ ) 12...Be6 13.Qf3 Ke7 14.O-O-O! Raf8 15.Qa3+ Kd8 16.f4 Qe7!? 17.Qxe7+ Kxe7 18.g3 Bxa2∞ ) 5...a6 ( 5...a5 6.b5 Nd4 7.Nxd4 ( 7.Nxe5 Qg5 8.O-O ( 8.Bxf7+ Kf8 9.Ng4=/∞ ) 8...Qxe5 9.c3 Ne6 10.Re1 Nf6 ( 10...Bxf2 11.Kxf2 Qc5+ 12.d4 Qxc4 13.Re3 Nf8 14.d5 Qc5 15.Ba3 Qb6 16.d6=/∞↑)  11.d4 Nxd4 12.cxd4 Qxd4 (12...Bxd4 13.Ra2=/∞ ) 13.Qe2!? (13.Qxd4!? Bxd4 14.Ra2=/∞ ) 13...Qxa1 14.e5=/∞↑ ) 7...Bxd4 8.c3 Bb6 9.d4 Qe7 (9...exd4 10.O-O! Ne7 11.Bg5 h6 12.Bxe7 Qxe7 13.cxd4 Qb4 14.Na3 O-O 15.Qd3 d5! 16.exd5 Bd7 17.Nc2 Qd6 18.Ne3+/= ) 10.O-O ( 10.Qg4 Nf6 11.Qxg7 Rg8 12.Qh6 Rg6∞ ) 10...d6 11.f4 ( 11.Be3!? ) 11...Be6 12.Na3 exd4 13.cxd4 O-O-O 14.Be2 Nf6 15.Bf3 d5 16.e5 Ne4 17.Nc2 h5!= ) 6.Nc3 Nf6 7.Nd5 ( 7.d4 Bxd4!? ( 7...exd4 8.Nd5 Nxd5 9.exd5 Qe7 10.Kf1! Ne5 11.d6 cxd6 12.Bd5=/∞ ) 8.Nxd4 Nxd4 9.f4 ( 9.O-O d6 10.f4 Be6! 11.Bxe6 fxe6 12.Be3 Nc6 13.b5 axb5 14.axb5 Rxa1 15.Qxa1 Ng4!? 16.bxc6 Nxe3 17.Qa2 Nxf1 18.Qxe6 Qe7 19.Qc8+ Qd8 20.cxb7 O-O 21.Nd5! Kf7 22.Qf5+ Kg8 23.Qc8= ) 9...d6 10.O-O O-O 11.fxe5 dxe5 12.Nd5 Be6 13.Nxf6+ gxf6 14.Bd3 Qe7 ( 14...Nb3? 15.cxb3 Qd4+ 16.Kh1 Qxa1 17.Qf3!+-->) 15.Bh6 Rfd8∞) 7...Nxd5 ( 7...Nxe4 8.O-O d6 9.d3 Nf6 10.Bg5+/= ) 8.exd5 Nd4 ( 8...e4?+/- ) 9.a5 Ba7 10.d6 ( 10.O-O?!=/+ ) 10...cxd6 11.O-O O-O 12.Nxd4 Bxd4 13.c3 Ba7 14.Qf3=/∞
  
  ```
  
  > How could black win against Evans Gambit declined?
  
  How could he not win?
  
  In all the variations above Black has sufficient counter-play and equal chances to win.
  
  He will first try to parry White's initiative, and then he will have won endgame due to his healthier pawn structure and White being overextended-this is a standard plan for Black in most openings.
  
  Summary:
  
  *Evans gambit* is not popular anymore because White does not get the attack he hoped for, and after Black properly returns the pawn he has better **or at least equal** chances in the endgame. Why would anyone play with White just to fight an uphill battle to draw?
  
  As for the declined variation, White will get lasting initiative but Black still holds. In all lines **quoted above** Black has sufficient counter-play and both players need to play accurate in order not to lose.
  
  For a detailed coverage of the *Evans gambit* find repertoire books like [*The Great Evans Gambit Debate*](http://rads.stackoverflow.com/amzn/click/0938650750) series or [*Play the Evans gambit-Tim Harding*](http://rads.stackoverflow.com/amzn/click/1857441192).
  
  Hopefully this answer sheds some light. If you have further questions leave a comment and I will try to respond as soon as possible.
  
  Best regards.
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_6**: Unless you are a top-level grandmaster you definitely don't want to play black in the position of the last diagram.  
  
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  ### Answer by username_4 on 2014-02-01. Score: 1
  
  When played in the 19th and early 20th centuries, the Evans gambit was a terrifying opening that put Black on the defensive for a long time.
  
  That's until modern theory discovered that Black can get a fully equal game by returning the pawn at the right time (this is generally true of most king pawn gambits, which is why they aren't played much nowadays).
  
  Today's Black players don't mind Evans gambits because it is an easier way to get an "equal" game that most other openings.
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_5**: That's true in the Lasker Defense but white can avoid the Lasker defense.  
  
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  ### Answer by username_5 on 2020-09-20. Score: 0
  
  White can maintain a solid positional advantage in the declined and has a pretty fair amount of traps. I don't think it's a good line for black. It's a line where black is trying to navigate a minefield to get to a draw.
  
  
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