Answers.Body: <p>Glorfindel provides an excellent answer, especially the light square strategy.</p>
  
  <p>I would also suggest that playing the KIA, the proper course is to exchange the dark square Bishops, with Bg5, Qd2, and Bh6 and to attack on the Kingside.  The variation which the Kingside attack is most powerful is when White advances the e pawn instead of the c pawn.</p>
  
  <p>Dunnington's book "The Ultimate King's Indian Attack" suggests that if you plan on the Queenside attack, the Bishop is best left on c1 and moved to b2 or a3 after the pawn expansion.  John Hall's "Modern King's Indian Attack" does not even mention Queenside play.</p>
  
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Answers.Body: <p>&nbsp;1. g3 is called the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Benko_Opening&amp;redirect=no">Benko opening</a> or the King's fianchetto opening. It usually transposes into other systems where White plays g3 in the opening (e.g. the English or the Catalan), but the position you're showing reminds me of a reversed Sicilian Dragon (if White plays cxd5) or a reversed King's Indian / Pirc (if Black plays d4).</p>
  
  <p>You could do a couple of things with your dark-squared bishop, e.g. exchange it for the knight on f6, to strengthen your grip on the light squares. You could develop it to d2 to support the b2-b4 push, or (after cxd5) to e3, as you're not likely to move the e-pawn very soon.</p>
  
  <p>As most system openings, it is not really a bad opening. But you're giving away the initiative White has - essentially, you're playing with Black all the time.</p>
  
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Answers.Text: Thank you I'll look into these opening. I like the uses of the dark bishop/ especially the change with the knight !
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Answers.Text: Slight tangent, but the Meran has a good reputation for Black and many lines come down to a single tempo; but the Colle System for White has a poor reputation when it is exactly the same as a Meran with extra tempo!
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Body: <p>I couldn't find much sources on this opening.</p>
  
  <p>I'm teaching my young students for them not to bother with opening theory in their early chess experience.</p>
  
  <p>I push it as far as playing it black or white.
  Having this position no matter what (if the opponent is playing decent moves) with white:</p>
  
  <pre><code>[FEN ""]
  1. g3 e5 2. Bg2 d5 3. d3 Nc6 4. Nf3 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. c4 Be6 7. Nc3 O-O
  8. a3 a5 9. Rb1
  </code></pre>
  
  <p>Same goes for black (g6 etc ...).</p>
  
  <p>The idea behind this is securing our king fast, and launching an attack on the queenside while strenghtening the diagonal of our bishop on the kingside.</p>
  
  <p>Next we want to prepare b4. I don't really know what to do with my dark-squared bishop though.</p>
  
  <p>If some of you could give me some good advice or insight on this opening (is it good? Bad? What are the plans?) that would be awesome.</p>
  
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Comments.Text: Why can't Black win the c4 pawn?
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Comments.Text: They can indeed I have to admit I played black a bit quickly :(
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Comments.Text: I don't understand. You say you don't want to teach your beginners opening theory but then you're advising them to play lines that seem to be more about memorization (or, at least, specific plans for specific pieces) than general principles. Wouldn't it be more consistent to teach them to open with 1.e4, develop knights and bishops, castle, and so on?
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Comments.Text: Nf3 interesting. For the kids learning chess, I consider that learning one plan, one line no matter what makes it easier to focus training on tactics, finals and so on. Of course I tought them first how important it was to develop knights and bishops. What I want to avoid (that I experienced myself) is always being in trouble after 10 moves (because basics aren't enough to survive the opening as your opponent will know when and why my move wasn't the best).
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Comments.Text: One objection I have to only teaching this system is that it's not suitable for everyone's style. What you have in the diagram above is sort of an English opening structure, but some students will be able to play much better in for example king's pawn opening structures intuitively.
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Comments.Text: Your line is the Sicilian Dragon with colours reversed. Of course, Black does not have to comply!
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Tags: <opening>
Title: Opening g3 - Bg2
ThreadText: # Opening g3 - Bg2
  
  (Asked by: username_0 on 2016-07-01)
  
  I couldn't find much sources on this opening.
  
  I'm teaching my young students for them not to bother with opening theory in their early chess experience.
  
  I push it as far as playing it black or white.
  Having this position no matter what (if the opponent is playing decent moves) with white:
  
  ```
  [FEN ""]
  1. g3 e5 2. Bg2 d5 3. d3 Nc6 4. Nf3 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. c4 Be6 7. Nc3 O-O
  8. a3 a5 9. Rb1
  
  ```
  
  Same goes for black (g6 etc ...).
  
  The idea behind this is securing our king fast, and launching an attack on the queenside while strenghtening the diagonal of our bishop on the kingside.
  
  Next we want to prepare b4. I don't really know what to do with my dark-squared bishop though.
  
  If some of you could give me some good advice or insight on this opening (is it good? Bad? What are the plans?) that would be awesome.
  
  **Tags:** opening
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_1**: Why can't Black win the c4 pawn?  
  > **username_0**: They can indeed I have to admit I played black a bit quickly :(  
  > **username_2**: I don't understand. You say you don't want to teach your beginners opening theory but then you're advising them to play lines that seem to be more about memorization (or, at least, specific plans for specific pieces) than general principles. Wouldn't it be more consistent to teach them to open with 1.e4, develop knights and bishops, castle, and so on?  
  > **username_0**: Nf3 interesting. For the kids learning chess, I consider that learning one plan, one line no matter what makes it easier to focus training on tactics, finals and so on. Of course I tought them first how important it was to develop knights and bishops. What I want to avoid (that I experienced myself) is always being in trouble after 10 moves (because basics aren't enough to survive the opening as your opponent will know when and why my move wasn't the best).  
  > **username_3**: One objection I have to only teaching this system is that it's not suitable for everyone's style. What you have in the diagram above is sort of an English opening structure, but some students will be able to play much better in for example king's pawn opening structures intuitively.  
  > **username_4**: Your line is the Sicilian Dragon with colours reversed. Of course, Black does not have to comply!  
  
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  ## 2 answers
  
  ### Answer by username_6 on 2016-07-01. Score: 6 | Accepted answer
  
  1. g3 is called the [Benko opening](https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Benko_Opening&redirect=no) or the King's fianchetto opening. It usually transposes into other systems where White plays g3 in the opening (e.g. the English or the Catalan), but the position you're showing reminds me of a reversed Sicilian Dragon (if White plays cxd5) or a reversed King's Indian / Pirc (if Black plays d4).
  
  You could do a couple of things with your dark-squared bishop, e.g. exchange it for the knight on f6, to strengthen your grip on the light squares. You could develop it to d2 to support the b2-b4 push, or (after cxd5) to e3, as you're not likely to move the e-pawn very soon.
  
  As most system openings, it is not really a bad opening. But you're giving away the initiative White has - essentially, you're playing with Black all the time.
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_0**: Thank you I'll look into these opening. I like the uses of the dark bishop/ especially the change with the knight !  
  > **username_4**: Slight tangent, but the Meran has a good reputation for Black and many lines come down to a single tempo; but the Colle System for White has a poor reputation when it is exactly the same as a Meran with extra tempo!  
  
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  ### Answer by username_5 on 2016-07-01. Score: 3
  
  username_6 provides an excellent answer, especially the light square strategy.
  
  I would also suggest that playing the KIA, the proper course is to exchange the dark square Bishops, with Bg5, Qd2, and Bh6 and to attack on the Kingside. The variation which the Kingside attack is most powerful is when White advances the e pawn instead of the c pawn.
  
  Dunnington's book "The Ultimate King's Indian Attack" suggests that if you plan on the Queenside attack, the Bishop is best left on c1 and moved to b2 or a3 after the pawn expansion. John Hall's "Modern King's Indian Attack" does not even mention Queenside play.
  
  
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