Answers.Body: <p>Give them puzzles like Mate in 3 and see how well they can visualize moves out loud without making the moves on the board. When I was a kid I knew I wouldn't be a chess star because I couldn't visualize to save my life.</p>
  
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Answers.Text: @HaukeReddmann your calculation ability must still be at a certain level to reach FM!
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  <p>Can you suggest a test that even for beginners might give some hint of their talent?</p>
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  <p>The obvious one is how quickly they can do a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knight%27s_tour" rel="nofollow noreferrer">knight's tour</a>.</p>
  
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Answers.Text: I think this will give a better hint of the kids' geometric skills than of their chess skills.
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Answers.Body: <p>An (I think even more obvious) alternative to Brian's suggestion I just remembered: Memorizing a random chess position from the opening.</p>
  
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Body: <p>The short answer is of course &quot;You can't&quot;. There are too many variables (e.g. the amount of special training). Also, ratings are not reliable, if even existent (looking at the current kid championship of my town, 50% of U10s had one and only the strongest of U8s).</p>
  <p>Still, I have 40 years of experience training children and would say without any doubt that one of my chess kids will be stronger than me in ten years.</p>
  <p>Can you suggest a test that even for beginners might give <em>some</em> hint of their talent?</p>
  
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Title: Estimating the "final" strength of a kid
ThreadText: # Estimating the "final" strength of a kid
  
  (Asked by: username_0 on 2024-04-12)
  
  The short answer is of course "You can't". There are too many variables (e.g. the amount of special training). Also, ratings are not reliable, if even existent (looking at the current kid championship of my town, 50% of U10s had one and only the strongest of U8s).
  
  Still, I have 40 years of experience training children and would say without any doubt that one of my chess kids will be stronger than me in ten years.
  
  Can you suggest a test that even for beginners might give *some* hint of their talent?
  
  **Tags:** rating, teaching, children
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_1**: related: https://chess.stackexchange.com/questions/2358/how-to-gauge-someones-chess-strength-quickly  
  
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  ### Answer by username_1 on 2024-04-16. Score: 1
  
  Give them puzzles like Mate in 3 and see how well they can visualize moves out loud without making the moves on the board. When I was a kid I knew I wouldn't be a chess star because I couldn't visualize to save my life.
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_0**: (headscratch) Being able to visualize is great for your chess, alas, I could never properly visualize (or calculate) and still went to be a FM...  
  > **username_1**: @username_0 your calculation ability must still be at a certain level to reach FM!  
  
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  ### Answer by username_2 on 2024-04-12. Score: 1
  
  > Can you suggest a test that even for beginners might give some hint of their talent?
  
  The obvious one is how quickly they can do a [knight's tour](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knight%27s_tour).
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_3**: I think this will give a better hint of the kids' geometric skills than of their chess skills.  
  
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  ### Answer by username_0 on 2024-04-14. Score: 1
  
  An (I think even more obvious) alternative to username_2's suggestion I just remembered: Memorizing a random chess position from the opening.
  
  
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