Answers.Body: <p>They reach the same position, so they have the same name. It wouldn't make sense to call the same position differently depending on the moves that lead to it. <strong>1.f4 e5 2.e4</strong> is a King's gambit, not a declined From's gambit. <strong>1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.cxd5 exd5 4.c4 Nf6 5.Nc3 e6 6.Nf3</strong> is a Tarrasch Defence despite having started as a Caro-Kann</p>
  
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Answers.Body: <p>Yes, it is still called the Queen's Gambit Declined. That's just the name of the system, regardless of the move order used to reach it. However, it is not the QGD before Black chooses to push 3...d5.</p>
  
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Answers.Body: <p>This is a transposition, you have to think about the pawn structure instead on focusing on the concrete order, there are thousands of different ways of getting to the same (or quite similar) positions</p>
  
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Body: <p>I understand that the opening 1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 Nf6  is called Queen's Gambit Declined. But how about 1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 e6 3. c4 d5? There is no gambit offered, let alone declined. Is it still called Queen's gambit declined?</p>
  
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Comments.Text: In either variation, it's still not a true gambit.
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Comments.Text: @MikeJones, well, in the order 1. d4 d5, 2. c4. Black has the option to accept the gambit, though the choice may not be the best one.
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Comments.Text: The Queen's Gambit isn't a true gambit as black can't keep the pawn.  Other gambits trade the gambit pawn for another advantage.
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Title: Is 1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 e6 3. c4 d5 called Queen's Gambit Declined when there is no gambit offered, let alone declined?
ThreadText: # Is 1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 e6 3. c4 d5 called Queen's Gambit Declined when there is no gambit offered, let alone declined?
  
  (Asked by: username_0 on 2020-05-09)
  
  I understand that the opening 1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 Nf6 is called Queen's Gambit Declined. But how about 1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 e6 3. c4 d5? There is no gambit offered, let alone declined. Is it still called Queen's gambit declined?
  
  **Tags:** opening, queens-gambit-declined
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_1**: In either variation, it's still not a true gambit.  
  > **username_0**: @username_1, well, in the order 1. d4 d5, 2. c4. Black has the option to accept the gambit, though the choice may not be the best one.  
  > **username_1**: The Queen's Gambit isn't a true gambit as black can't keep the pawn.  Other gambits trade the gambit pawn for another advantage.  
  
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  ### Answer by username_2 on 2020-05-09. Score: 3 | Accepted answer
  
  They reach the same position, so they have the same name. It wouldn't make sense to call the same position differently depending on the moves that lead to it. **1.f4 e5 2.e4** is a King's gambit, not a declined From's gambit. **1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.cxd5 exd5 4.c4 Nf6 5.Nc3 e6 6.Nf3** is a Tarrasch Defence despite having started as a Caro-Kann
  
  
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  ### Answer by username_3 on 2020-05-09. Score: 9
  
  Yes, it is still called the Queen's Gambit Declined. That's just the name of the system, regardless of the move order used to reach it. However, it is not the QGD before Black chooses to push 3...d5.
  
  
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  ### Answer by username_4 on 2020-05-10. Score: 1
  
  This is a transposition, you have to think about the pawn structure instead on focusing on the concrete order, there are thousands of different ways of getting to the same (or quite similar) positions
  
  
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