Answers.Body: <p>Touch your king, then your rook.  By rule 4.4.1, you are now required to castle.  You can now move the king and rook to their proper squares however you like, since you are already forced into a specific move and any subsequent piece touches can't change that.</p>
  
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Answers.Body: <p>I saw this in the chess news on a couple of sites, and it seems pretty simple to me. Pick up the K, and move it to g1, simultaneously pushing the rook off the g1 square. Then move the rook to its proper square.</p>
  
  <p>In any case, you should pick up the K first, and then if you also want to pick up the rook, grab it second, and move them simultaneously. Either way, you are in compliance.</p>
  
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Answers.Text: How would you move them simultaneously? Using two hands to castle is illegal.
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Answers.Text: @FedericoPoloni with a little finesse you can manipulate two pieces with one hand, without dropping anything at the wrong moment :)
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Answers.Text: @hobbs Great, now clumsy people are more likely to make an unintentional blunder while castling...
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Answers.Text: Exactly this. You do it just as you would when capturing a piece. Pick up your own piece, place by opponents piece, pick opponents piece up and finishing your one handed movement, reposition your piece in the center of the square. The only added move is now positioning the "captured" piece at its place, not beside the table. (And adjust with *j'adoube* if necessary before clocking)
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Answers.Text: @Michael On the scale of coordination demands in the world of game and sport, holding two pieces in one hand seems a pretty small ask.
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Answers.Text: @StianYttervik Saying "j'adoube" shouldn't be necessary because a piece was already touched (and moved). You can adjust as many pieces as you like before pressing the clock, at least to my understanding and experience.
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Answers.Text: @xephuk yeah. I think so too. But it is a nice reflex to have.
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Answers.Text: @Michael If you're unable to pick up your king and then touch your rook (which makes castling the only legal move) consistently, you're not clumsy, you have a disability sufficient to warrant accommodations before the game.
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Answers.Text: If you castle right, you push the rook to the left and vice versa.
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Answers.Body: <p>There are two problematic cases in Chess960 castling:</p>
  
  <pre><code>(1) rook starts on king’s destination square.
  (2) king starts on king’s destination square.
  </code></pre>
  
  <p>It is not beyond the wit of man for the FIDE Laws to handle those cases explicitly. Maybe a future version of the rules will do so.</p>
  
  <p>However the most important FIDE rule here is:</p>
  
  <blockquote>
    <p>Too detailed a rule might deprive the arbiter of his freedom of judgement
    and thus prevent him from finding the solution to a problem
    dictated by fairness, logic and special factors.</p>
  </blockquote>
  
  <p>It must be difficult to rule in the excitement of such a situation. But had not GM So generously agreed to draw the game, the ruling could have effectively terminated the semi-final. The moral for players is to remain calm, and exercise opportunities for appeal. </p>
  
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Answers.Text: Isn't the king's destination square two squares in the direction of the rook?
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Answers.Text: @PeterTaylor In 960, not necessarily. In some cases that will be off the board!
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Answers.Text: @Peter Taylor, starts on b file to g file but castles just to c file or g file - i.e. the same squares as regular chess!
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Answers.Body: <p>Stian Yttervik made a comment that I think deserves to be expanded into a full answer. (I have changed the wording somewhat. That is not Stians fault)</p>
  
  <p>Just pretend that the King is capturing the Rook.  </p>
  
  <p>In other words: Move the King first. Use the King to gently push the Rook off-center and firmly place the King where it should be.  Then move the Rook where it should be.  Hit the clock.</p>
  
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Answers.Body: <p>The FIDE Laws of Chess actually cover this with a recommendation without mentioning the problem.</p>
  
  <blockquote>
    <p>II.3.2.5.1 When castling on a physical board with a human player, it
    is recommended that the king be moved outside the playing surface next
    to his final position, the rook then be moved from its starting
    position to its final position, and then the king be placed on his
    final square</p>
  </blockquote>
  
  <p>The first time I read this I though "What a daft thing to suggest? Who is going to do that?" but now I see the point.</p>
  
  <p>The FIDE Laws of Chess go on to state:</p>
  
  <blockquote>
    <p>II.3.2.7 Notes<br>
    II.3.2.7.1 To avoid any misunderstanding, it may be useful to state "I am about to
    castle" before castling.</p>
  </blockquote>
  
  <p>Suppose Nepomniatchi had read that before and said those words before castling, would the arbiter have allowed him to castle the way he did?</p>
  
  <p>So, it looks like this was thought of when the rules were written and they were written accordingly.</p>
  
  <p>For practical play there is a simpler solution. According to 4.4.1 touching the king then the rook must be followed by castling. In cases where either the rook is on the king's square or the king is on the king's square just touch king then rook and then make the move. This solves all the associated problems.</p>
  
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Body: <p>According to the FIDE Laws of Chess:</p>
  
  <blockquote>
    <p>4.4 If a player having the move:<br>
    4.4.1 touches his king and a rook he must castle on that side if it is legal to do so<br>
    4.4.2 <strong>deliberately touches a rook and then his king he is not allowed to castle on that side on that move</strong> and the situation shall
    be governed by Article 4.3.1</p>
  </blockquote>
  
  <p>Yesterday in the semi-finals of the Chess960 World Championships in the following position Nepomniatchi tried to castle kingside by first picking up his rook to move it off the king's destination square (g1) to f1, the rook's destination square and then moving the king to g1. </p>
  
  <p>The arbiter ruled in accordance with 4.4.2 that he was not allowed to castle kingside and the king must stay on e1 and he got a bad position. Later, after <a href="https://twitter.com/chess24com/status/1189224327994052608" rel="noreferrer">an appeal</a>, this was overruled and <a href="https://twitter.com/chess24com/status/1189228348217724928" rel="noreferrer">they replayed the game</a>.</p>
  
  <pre><code> [title "Neponiatchi - So, 2019 Chess960 1/2 final"]
   [fen "2nr1r1k/pb1n1pqp/1p2p1p1/1N1pN3/5P2/1P4P1/P2PPQ1P/2R1K1RB w - - 0 1"]
  </code></pre>
  
  <p>Jonathan Tisdall, <a href="https://twitter.com/GMjtis/status/1189229273418260485" rel="noreferrer">on Twitter</a>, reported that:</p>
  
  <blockquote>
    <p>According to organizer Jøran Aulin-Jansson, the rook being on g1, the
    king destination, caused enough confusion to overturn the strict
    ruling</p>
  </blockquote>
  
  <p>This raises the question: <strong>In such situations how can the player legally castle on the side where the rook starts on the king's destination square?</strong></p>
  
  <p>One humorous, though impractical at short time limits, solution was suggested <a href="https://twitter.com/bondegnasker/status/1189469446139797505" rel="noreferrer">here</a>.</p>
  
  <p>Even more impractical was <a href="https://twitter.com/ChessProblem/status/1189239004530663424" rel="noreferrer">MrDodgy's suggestion</a>:</p>
  
  <blockquote>
    <p>A true pro would pick up the rook from g1, toss it up in the air,
    slide the king to g1 and the rook would land dead centre of f1.  Press
    the clock, lean back in chair.  Flex.</p>
  </blockquote>
  
  <p>Still illegal.</p>
  
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Comments.Text: How would it have been legal to castle in the first place? The Rook wasn't on its standing position.
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Comments.Text: @vsz Chess960 starts the game with the back row somewhat scambled, it is assumed that in this game the two pieces have not yet been moved from their starting positions.
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Comments.Text: Castling in chess960 always looks odd. First time I encountered it, I was surprised it was even legal.
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Comments.Text: When capturing a piece, I will usually pick up my own piece, and simultaneously place it on the square of the piece I'm capturing while picking up the piece I'm capturing. I can't see any reason the same action can't be employed to place the king on the square occupying the rook while simultaneously picking up the rook
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Title: How can you castle legally in Chess960 when the castling rook is on the king's destination square?
ThreadText: # How can you castle legally in Chess960 when the castling rook is on the king's destination square?
  
  (Asked by: username_0 on 2019-10-30)
  
  According to the FIDE Laws of Chess:
  
  > 4.4 If a player having the move:  
  > 4.4.1 touches his king and a rook he must castle on that side if it is legal to do so  
  > 4.4.2 **deliberately touches a rook and then his king he is not allowed to castle on that side on that move** and the situation shall
  > be governed by Article 4.3.1
  
  Yesterday in the semi-finals of the Chess960 World Championships in the following position Nepomniatchi tried to castle kingside by first picking up his rook to move it off the king's destination square (g1) to f1, the rook's destination square and then moving the king to g1.
  
  The arbiter ruled in accordance with 4.4.2 that he was not allowed to castle kingside and the king must stay on e1 and he got a bad position. Later, after [an appeal](https://twitter.com/chess24com/status/1189224327994052608), this was overruled and [they replayed the game](https://twitter.com/chess24com/status/1189228348217724928).
  
  ```
   [title "Neponiatchi - So, 2019 Chess960 1/2 final"]
   [fen "2nr1r1k/pb1n1pqp/1p2p1p1/1N1pN3/5P2/1P4P1/P2PPQ1P/2R1K1RB w - - 0 1"]
  
  ```
  
  Jonathan Tisdall, [on Twitter](https://twitter.com/GMjtis/status/1189229273418260485), reported that:
  
  > According to organizer Jøran Aulin-Jansson, the rook being on g1, the
  > king destination, caused enough confusion to overturn the strict
  > ruling
  
  This raises the question: **In such situations how can the player legally castle on the side where the rook starts on the king's destination square?**
  
  One humorous, though impractical at short time limits, solution was suggested [here](https://twitter.com/bondegnasker/status/1189469446139797505).
  
  Even more impractical was [MrDodgy's suggestion](https://twitter.com/ChessProblem/status/1189239004530663424):
  
  > A true pro would pick up the rook from g1, toss it up in the air,
  > slide the king to g1 and the rook would land dead centre of f1. Press
  > the clock, lean back in chair. Flex.
  
  Still illegal.
  
  **Tags:** rules, chess-variants, castling, chess960
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_1**: How would it have been legal to castle in the first place? The Rook wasn't on its standing position.  
  > **username_2**: @username_1 Chess960 starts the game with the back row somewhat scambled, it is assumed that in this game the two pieces have not yet been moved from their starting positions.  
  > **username_3**: Castling in chess960 always looks odd. First time I encountered it, I was surprised it was even legal.  
  > **username_4**: When capturing a piece, I will usually pick up my own piece, and simultaneously place it on the square of the piece I'm capturing while picking up the piece I'm capturing. I can't see any reason the same action can't be employed to place the king on the square occupying the rook while simultaneously picking up the rook  
  
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  ## 5 answers
  
  ### Answer by username_0 on 2019-10-30. Score: 20 | Accepted answer
  
  The FIDE Laws of Chess actually cover this with a recommendation without mentioning the problem.
  
  > II.3.2.5.1 When castling on a physical board with a human player, it
  > is recommended that the king be moved outside the playing surface next
  > to his final position, the rook then be moved from its starting
  > position to its final position, and then the king be placed on his
  > final square
  
  The first time I read this I though "What a daft thing to suggest? Who is going to do that?" but now I see the point.
  
  The FIDE Laws of Chess go on to state:
  
  > II.3.2.7 Notes  
  > II.3.2.7.1 To avoid any misunderstanding, it may be useful to state "I am about to
  > castle" before castling.
  
  Suppose Nepomniatchi had read that before and said those words before castling, would the arbiter have allowed him to castle the way he did?
  
  So, it looks like this was thought of when the rules were written and they were written accordingly.
  
  For practical play there is a simpler solution. According to 4.4.1 touching the king then the rook must be followed by castling. In cases where either the rook is on the king's square or the king is on the king's square just touch king then rook and then make the move. This solves all the associated problems.
  
  
  ---
  
  ### Answer by username_5 on 2019-10-30. Score: 13
  
  Touch your king, then your rook. By rule 4.4.1, you are now required to castle. You can now move the king and rook to their proper squares however you like, since you are already forced into a specific move and any subsequent piece touches can't change that.
  
  
  ---
  
  ### Answer by username_6 on 2019-10-30. Score: 10
  
  I saw this in the chess news on a couple of sites, and it seems pretty simple to me. Pick up the K, and move it to g1, simultaneously pushing the rook off the g1 square. Then move the rook to its proper square.
  
  In any case, you should pick up the K first, and then if you also want to pick up the rook, grab it second, and move them simultaneously. Either way, you are in compliance.
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_7**: How would you move them simultaneously? Using two hands to castle is illegal.  
  > **username_8**: @username_7 with a little finesse you can manipulate two pieces with one hand, without dropping anything at the wrong moment :)  
  > **username_9**: @username_8 Great, now clumsy people are more likely to make an unintentional blunder while castling...  
  > **username_10**: Exactly this. You do it just as you would when capturing a piece. Pick up your own piece, place by opponents piece, pick opponents piece up and finishing your one handed movement, reposition your piece in the center of the square. The only added move is now positioning the "captured" piece at its place, not beside the table. (And adjust with *j'adoube* if necessary before clocking)  
  > **username_11**: @username_9 On the scale of coordination demands in the world of game and sport, holding two pieces in one hand seems a pretty small ask.  
  > **username_12**: @StianYttervik Saying "j'adoube" shouldn't be necessary because a piece was already touched (and moved). You can adjust as many pieces as you like before pressing the clock, at least to my understanding and experience.  
  > **username_10**: @xephuk yeah. I think so too. But it is a nice reflex to have.  
  > **username_13**: @username_9 If you're unable to pick up your king and then touch your rook (which makes castling the only legal move) consistently, you're not clumsy, you have a disability sufficient to warrant accommodations before the game.  
  > **username_14**: If you castle right, you push the rook to the left and vice versa.  
  
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  ### Answer by username_15 on 2019-10-30. Score: 4
  
  There are two problematic cases in Chess960 castling:
  
  ```
  (1) rook starts on king’s destination square.
  (2) king starts on king’s destination square.
  
  ```
  
  It is not beyond the wit of man for the FIDE Laws to handle those cases explicitly. Maybe a future version of the rules will do so.
  
  However the most important FIDE rule here is:
  
  > Too detailed a rule might deprive the arbiter of his freedom of judgement
  > and thus prevent him from finding the solution to a problem
  > dictated by fairness, logic and special factors.
  
  It must be difficult to rule in the excitement of such a situation. But had not GM So generously agreed to draw the game, the ruling could have effectively terminated the semi-final. The moral for players is to remain calm, and exercise opportunities for appeal.
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_16**: Isn't the king's destination square two squares in the direction of the rook?  
  > **username_17**: @username_16 In 960, not necessarily. In some cases that will be off the board!  
  > **username_15**: @username_16, starts on b file to g file but castles just to c file or g file - i.e. the same squares as regular chess!  
  
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  ### Answer by username_18 on 2019-11-01. Score: 4
  
  username_10 Yttervik made a comment that I think deserves to be expanded into a full answer. (I have changed the wording somewhat. That is not Stians fault)
  
  Just pretend that the King is capturing the Rook.
  
  In other words: Move the King first. Use the King to gently push the Rook off-center and firmly place the King where it should be. Then move the Rook where it should be. Hit the clock.
  
  
  ---
  
  