Body: <p>I found myself in this position as a Black, and it is Black's move. I was thinking to somehow engage on the king's side in the end due to a stopped attack on the queenside. However, I checked few scenarios with the pawn exchange on f4/e5, or moving knight to h5 (?) to open f7 pawn, or pushing my g6 pawn to attack, so the light-squared bishop can escape. After that, I was thinking of what would happen if White would attack or push with his pawn on f4. All the scenarios I found were bad.</p>
  <p>Also, after my plan of pushing on the queenside ended with this pawn wall, I thought about some attack on the kingside with Bgh3 followed by the queen, but this attack can end with White just moving to f5.</p>
  <p>Does this position seem stable? How can I recreate a strong attack?</p>
  <pre><code>[FEN &quot;r4rk1/1p1q1pb1/1n1p1npp/pPpPp3/P1P1PPb1/2NQ2P1/3N2BP/R1B2RK1 b Qq - 0 1&quot;]
  </code></pre>
  
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Comments.Text: White's pieces look better coordinated than Black's. Perhaps you should start worrying about *defense*? exf4 looks like it is playing with fire.
Comments.UserDisplayName: John Coleman
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Comments.Text: I'm surprised by what is being said. Assuming it is Black's move (important!) I thought after exf4 I thought Black marginally better! The dark squared bishop now has a nice open line with ideas of coming to d4, the knight has a way in through, the half open e file allows pressure, and the knight on b6 ties down a white piece or two on the Q side protecting the pawns on a4 and c4. And stockfish agrees putting black about 0.3-0.4 better, which I admit is marginal, and a "strong attack" at the moment is much too optimistic - but I still think Black very much has everything to play for.
Comments.UserDisplayName: Ian Bush
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Comments.Text: @IanBush You are correct, my assessment was too hasty. White possibly had a slightly better position prior to their last move but their pawn break was premature.
Comments.UserDisplayName: John Coleman
Tags: <kings-indian><defense>
Title: King's Indian defense follows to strange pawn wall
ThreadText: # King's Indian defense follows to strange pawn wall
  
  (Asked by: username_0 on 2021-01-07)
  
  I found myself in this position as a Black, and it is Black's move. I was thinking to somehow engage on the king's side in the end due to a stopped attack on the queenside. However, I checked few scenarios with the pawn exchange on f4/e5, or moving knight to h5 (?) to open f7 pawn, or pushing my g6 pawn to attack, so the light-squared bishop can escape. After that, I was thinking of what would happen if White would attack or push with his pawn on f4. All the scenarios I found were bad.
  
  Also, after my plan of pushing on the queenside ended with this pawn wall, I thought about some attack on the kingside with Bgh3 followed by the queen, but this attack can end with White just moving to f5.
  
  Does this position seem stable? How can I recreate a strong attack?
  
  ```
  [FEN "r4rk1/1p1q1pb1/1n1p1npp/pPpPp3/P1P1PPb1/2NQ2P1/3N2BP/R1B2RK1 b Qq - 0 1"]
  
  ```
  
  **Tags:** kings-indian, defense
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_1**: White's pieces look better coordinated than Black's. Perhaps you should start worrying about *defense*? exf4 looks like it is playing with fire.  
  > **username_2**: I'm surprised by what is being said. Assuming it is Black's move (important!) I thought after exf4 I thought Black marginally better! The dark squared bishop now has a nice open line with ideas of coming to d4, the knight has a way in through, the half open e file allows pressure, and the knight on b6 ties down a white piece or two on the Q side protecting the pawns on a4 and c4. And stockfish agrees putting black about 0.3-0.4 better, which I admit is marginal, and a "strong attack" at the moment is much too optimistic - but I still think Black very much has everything to play for.  
  > **username_1**: @username_2 You are correct, my assessment was too hasty. White possibly had a slightly better position prior to their last move but their pawn break was premature.  
  
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