Answers.Body: <p>Sure. You can take basically <em>any</em> position where the 50 move rule could be invoked, rewind four moves for both sides, and instead have both players move a piece back and forth twice.</p>
  
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Answers.Text: Indeed, since the 50-move rule does not *have* to be invoked at exactly the fiftieth move (only when the last 50 moves have all been non-capture non-pawn), you can just do a three-fold repetition even without rewinding.
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Body: <p>It doesn't matter which one the player chooses in that situation, but I'm wondering whether someone can come up with a game where this holds true for at least one move.</p>
  
Tags: <problems><threefold-repetition><50-move-rule>
Title: Is there a position where it's possible to claim a draw by both the 50 moves and threefold repetition rules?
ThreadText: # Is there a position where it's possible to claim a draw by both the 50 moves and threefold repetition rules?
  
  (Asked by: username_0 on 2020-12-27)
  
  It doesn't matter which one the player chooses in that situation, but I'm wondering whether someone can come up with a game where this holds true for at least one move.
  
  **Tags:** problems, threefold-repetition, 50-move-rule
  
  
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  ### Answer by username_1 on 2020-12-27. Score: 3 | Accepted answer
  
  Sure. You can take basically *any* position where the 50 move rule could be invoked, rewind four moves for both sides, and instead have both players move a piece back and forth twice.
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_2**: Indeed, since the 50-move rule does not *have* to be invoked at exactly the fiftieth move (only when the last 50 moves have all been non-capture non-pawn), you can just do a three-fold repetition even without rewinding.  
  
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