Body: <p>Since the practical answer, pending the old suggestions to rate stalemate different, is &quot;Who cares?&quot;, I doubt &quot;official&quot; <a href="https://chess.stackexchange.com/questions/23196/tablebases-for-variant-where-stalemate-is-a-win">tablebases</a> exist. (Since winning the KNN/KP endgame depends on partial stalemating, <a href="https://chess.stackexchange.com/questions/13120">for KN/K</a> we know an answer.) From my own experiments, I guess it's &quot;no&quot; for B, but as in the case of N, <a href="https://chess.stackexchange.com/questions/13120">danger zones</a> may exist. Does anyone have a surefire algorithm?</p>
  
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Comments.Text: Partial duplicate of https://chess.stackexchange.com/questions/13120
  (which also refutes the guess that no such tablebase exists).
  In particular, no, KN/K generally cannot force stalemate; 
  many KNN/KP wins depend on the defending King having no access to
  squares occupied by the pawn or controlled by the Knight blocking that pawn.
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Comments.Text: OK, I edit all in.
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Tags: <endgame><stalemate>
Title: Can you force stalemate with KB/K?
ThreadText: # Can you force stalemate with KB/K?
  
  (Asked by: username_0 on 2024-02-25)
  
  Since the practical answer, pending the old suggestions to rate stalemate different, is "Who cares?", I doubt "official" [tablebases](https://chess.stackexchange.com/questions/23196/tablebases-for-variant-where-stalemate-is-a-win) exist. (Since winning the KNN/KP endgame depends on partial stalemating, [for KN/K](https://chess.stackexchange.com/questions/13120) we know an answer.) From my own experiments, I guess it's "no" for B, but as in the case of N, [danger zones](https://chess.stackexchange.com/questions/13120) may exist. Does anyone have a surefire algorithm?
  
  **Tags:** endgame, stalemate
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_1**: Partial duplicate of https://chess.stackexchange.com/questions/13120 (which also refutes the guess that no such tablebase exists). In particular, no, KN/K generally cannot force stalemate;  many KNN/KP wins depend on the defending King having no access to squares occupied by the pawn or controlled by the Knight blocking that pawn.  
  > **username_0**: OK, I edit all in.  
  
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