Answers.Body: <p>I am unsure what version of Stockfish you were using so I ran analysis 12 times; 4 seperate engines for each version of Stockfish.</p>
  <ul>
  <li>Stockfish 10 vs ( Ethereal , Komodo, LC0 , Stockfish 12 )</li>
  <li>Stockfish 11 vs ( Ethereal , Komodo, LC0 , Stockfish 12 )</li>
  <li>Stockfish 12 vs ( Ethereal , Komodo, LC0 , Stockfish 12 )</li>
  </ul>
  <p>Results were Stockfish (white) at the end of 20+ moves, was in a stronger position in all 9 instances. Based off this, I would suggest black is in a losing and in a irrecoverable position. There is the potential for a draw but it appears extremely unlikely.</p>
  <p>The best variation / playout that I saw, that had the best end position for black, was Stockfish 12 vs Stockfish 12. +-3.03 / 41 so white is decisively better.</p>
  <p>Issue with engine games in these sort of positions are the gameplay is boring. That being said, I have attached it for reference though.</p>
  <pre><code>[White &quot;Stockfish 12&quot;]
  [Black &quot;Stockfish 12&quot;]
  [FEN &quot;4b3/4N1k1/3R3p/r7/8/P6P/5KP1/8 b - - 0 1&quot;]
  
  1... h5 2. Rd3 Kh6 3. Kg1 Kg7 4. Rc3 Kf7 5. Nc8 Kf6 6. Nd6 Bg6 7. Kh2 Ra4 8. Rf3+ Kg5 9. Nb5 Kh6 10. Nc7 Ra5 11. Ne6 Bf5 12. Re3 Bg6 13. Rc3 Bf7 14. Nf4 Kg5 15. Ne2 Ra4 16. Rf3 Bg6 17. Rg3+ Kh6 18. Rc3 Be4 19. Nf4 Ba8 20. Ne6 Ra5 21. Nc5 Bd5 22. Nd3 Ra4 23. Nb4 Be4 24. Re3
  </code></pre>
  <p>From my experience with engine games this is going to continue on for some time. Eventually the Black h pawn and Whites a pawns will go (will likely also involve trading out the bishops somewhere ) , white with the pawn advantage will promote.</p>
  
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Answers.Body: <p>this would be tough to win OTB  with many ways to end up drawn</p>
  <p>a computer might do it but I doubt it would be quick and easy</p>
  
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Body: <p>Again , this is an interesting position I need help to solve. In a game Stockfish vs Ethereal , Stockfish was ahead , but Ethereal could have found  refuge in the following endgame. Is the position winning for White anyway? Could Black steer it into a positional draw?</p>
  <pre><code>[White &quot;Stockfish&quot;]
  [Black &quot;Ethereal&quot;]
  [FEN &quot;4b3/4N1k1/3R3p/r7/8/P6P/5KP1/8 b - - 0 1&quot;]
  </code></pre>
  
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Title: Computer chess endgame
ThreadText: # Computer chess endgame
  
  (Asked by: username_0 on 2020-09-22)
  
  Again , this is an interesting position I need help to solve. In a game Stockfish vs Ethereal , Stockfish was ahead , but Ethereal could have found refuge in the following endgame. Is the position winning for White anyway? Could Black steer it into a positional draw?
  
  ```
  [White "Stockfish"]
  [Black "Ethereal"]
  [FEN "4b3/4N1k1/3R3p/r7/8/P6P/5KP1/8 b - - 0 1"]
  
  ```
  
  **Tags:** engines, endgame
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_1**: http://bernd.bplaced.net/fengenerator/fengenerator.html. <<<may be of benifit  
  > **username_2**: white or black to move?  
  
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  ## 2 answers
  
  ### Answer by username_1 on 2020-09-22. Score: 1
  
  I am unsure what version of Stockfish you were using so I ran analysis 12 times; 4 seperate engines for each version of Stockfish.
  
  * Stockfish 10 vs ( Ethereal , Komodo, LC0 , Stockfish 12 )
  * Stockfish 11 vs ( Ethereal , Komodo, LC0 , Stockfish 12 )
  * Stockfish 12 vs ( Ethereal , Komodo, LC0 , Stockfish 12 )
  
  Results were Stockfish (white) at the end of 20+ moves, was in a stronger position in all 9 instances. Based off this, I would suggest black is in a losing and in a irrecoverable position. There is the potential for a draw but it appears extremely unlikely.
  
  The best variation / playout that I saw, that had the best end position for black, was Stockfish 12 vs Stockfish 12. +-3.03 / 41 so white is decisively better.
  
  Issue with engine games in these sort of positions are the gameplay is boring. That being said, I have attached it for reference though.
  
  ```
  [White "Stockfish 12"]
  [Black "Stockfish 12"]
  [FEN "4b3/4N1k1/3R3p/r7/8/P6P/5KP1/8 b - - 0 1"]
  
  1... h5 2. Rd3 Kh6 3. Kg1 Kg7 4. Rc3 Kf7 5. Nc8 Kf6 6. Nd6 Bg6 7. Kh2 Ra4 8. Rf3+ Kg5 9. Nb5 Kh6 10. Nc7 Ra5 11. Ne6 Bf5 12. Re3 Bg6 13. Rc3 Bf7 14. Nf4 Kg5 15. Ne2 Ra4 16. Rf3 Bg6 17. Rg3+ Kh6 18. Rc3 Be4 19. Nf4 Ba8 20. Ne6 Ra5 21. Nc5 Bd5 22. Nd3 Ra4 23. Nb4 Be4 24. Re3
  
  ```
  
  From my experience with engine games this is going to continue on for some time. Eventually the Black h pawn and Whites a pawns will go (will likely also involve trading out the bishops somewhere ) , white with the pawn advantage will promote.
  
  
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  ### Answer by username_3 on 2020-09-22. Score: -1
  
  this would be tough to win OTB with many ways to end up drawn
  
  a computer might do it but I doubt it would be quick and easy
  
  
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