Answers.Body: <p>Yes, it is indeed possible :)  I'll give you the coordinates for the pieces in a possible mating position, and you can set it up on your chessboard.</p>
  
  <p>Place the White King on g6.</p>
  
  <p>Place a White Knight on f7.</p>
  
  <p>Place the Black King on h8.</p>
  
  <p>Place a Black Knight on g8.</p>
  
  <pre><code>6nk/5N2/6K1/8/8/8/8/8 w - - 1 1
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  <p>In that position, Black's King is checkmated.  Although, I doubt even the biggest beginner would ever let that happen to them :)  You would only be able to checkmate in that endgame if your opponent literally played the worst moves multiple times in a row.</p>
  
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Answers.Text: To expound, Black's last move wouldhave to be Ng8, from f6 or h6 (e7 would be giving check) so it would require bizarre cooperation.
  
  Bishop vs bishop would not be quite as egregious: White bishop on f6 / White king on g6 / Black bishop on g8 / Black king on h8
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Answers.Text: Indeed, that is correct.
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Answers.Text: Maybe the last moves were Qxg8+ Ne7xg8 (forced) Nh6-f7# :-)
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Answers.Body: <p>In speed games, you only win when your opponents flag falls if you have mating material. This means that mate is possible, however unlikely. So if a position with K+N vs K+N is on the board, and one players flag falls, then they have lost. Infuriating for the loser.</p>
  
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Body: <p>I see plenty of information stating that a Knight and King vs a King is a Draw because a mating position is not possible.  I also see that it IS possible, no matter how unlikely, to acquire a mating position with 2 Knights, therefore that would technically NOT be a Draw.
  I would "assume" a Knight vs a Knight (no pawns) is also a Draw, but I don't see that stated anywhere.  Does the extra Knight on the board allow for the possibility of a mating position?  For example, somehow blocking it's own King in.  If so, does anyone have an example?</p>
  
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Comments.Text: Yes, it is possible to construct such a position, but there are no positions where you can force checkmate without help of the opponent. The same is true for KNNvK.
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Title: Is checkmate possible in knight vs knight pawnless endgame?
ThreadText: # Is checkmate possible in knight vs knight pawnless endgame?
  
  (Asked by: username_0 on 2017-04-14)
  
  I see plenty of information stating that a Knight and King vs a King is a Draw because a mating position is not possible. I also see that it IS possible, no matter how unlikely, to acquire a mating position with 2 Knights, therefore that would technically NOT be a Draw.
  I would "assume" a Knight vs a Knight (no pawns) is also a Draw, but I don't see that stated anywhere. Does the extra Knight on the board allow for the possibility of a mating position? For example, somehow blocking it's own King in. If so, does anyone have an example?
  
  **Tags:** endgame, knights
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_1**: Yes, it is possible to construct such a position, but there are no positions where you can force checkmate without help of the opponent. The same is true for KNNvK.  
  
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  ### Answer by username_2 on 2017-04-15. Score: 5
  
  Yes, it is indeed possible :) I'll give you the coordinates for the pieces in a possible mating position, and you can set it up on your chessboard.
  
  Place the White King on g6.
  
  Place a White Knight on f7.
  
  Place the Black King on h8.
  
  Place a Black Knight on g8.
  
  ```
  6nk/5N2/6K1/8/8/8/8/8 w - - 1 1
  
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  In that position, Black's King is checkmated. Although, I doubt even the biggest beginner would ever let that happen to them :) You would only be able to checkmate in that endgame if your opponent literally played the worst moves multiple times in a row.
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_3**: To expound, Black's last move wouldhave to be Ng8, from f6 or h6 (e7 would be giving check) so it would require bizarre cooperation.  Bishop vs bishop would not be quite as egregious: White bishop on f6 / White king on g6 / Black bishop on g8 / Black king on h8  
  > **username_2**: Indeed, that is correct.  
  > **username_4**: Maybe the last moves were Qxg8+ Ne7xg8 (forced) Nh6-f7# :-)  
  
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  ### Answer by username_5 on 2017-04-17. Score: 1
  
  In speed games, you only win when your opponents flag falls if you have mating material. This means that mate is possible, however unlikely. So if a position with K+N vs K+N is on the board, and one players flag falls, then they have lost. Infuriating for the loser.
  
  
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