Answers.Body: <p>Mark Taimanov, WC contender in 1971, was a world-class concert pianist.</p>
  
  <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVg3MBLU4V8" rel="noreferrer">Here is a duet he played in 1957</a>.</p>
  
  <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GpSt-I4WqY" rel="noreferrer">One more. I don't know when it was played. This one shows he and his partner playing.</a></p>
  
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Answers.Text: He once played a fantastic chess game that made Tal jealous and Keres said "Mark, today you played like Liszt". Here is it http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1138385
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Answers.Body: <p>Former world champion <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Smyslov#Opera_singer" rel="noreferrer">Vasily Smyslov</a> was an opera singer who gave up opera for chess. Judge for yourself how good he was - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAvrT52VXOI" rel="noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAvrT52VXOI</a> .</p>
  
  <p>More recently (and more mundanely) <a href="https://vimeo.com/105559532" rel="noreferrer">Nigel Short on guitar accompanied Elizabeth Paehtz's vocals</a> at a Kasparov supporters' rally before the 2014 FIDE elections.</p>
  
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Answers.Text: Emil Sutovsky is also a skilled musician.
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Answers.Body: <p>The 18th century French player <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7ois-Andr%C3%A9_Danican_Philidor" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Philidor</a> was a renown opera composer as well as the best chess player of his day. </p>
  
  <p>According to Jewish legend King Solomon, whose father was King David the great psalmist, was the inventor of the game.</p>
  
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Answers.Body: <p>Magnus Carlsen can also sing! <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVS-NIkkUrA" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVS-NIkkUrA</a></p>
  
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Answers.Text: And his WC opponent Sergey Karjakin is a skilled karaoke singer.
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Answers.Body: <p>Perhaps it's because both music and chess requires patience, disciplined work and tons of efforts. </p>
  
  <p>I was also an amateur but serious musician and chess player, then I quit both of them for computer engineering. Sad. :)</p>
  
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Answers.Body: <p>For the most part I see logic mainly used in chess theory, it can elaborate why a certain move can be beneficial even when it would be implemented beyond your calculations, such as color affinity, but that's about the only part that takes intense logic.</p>
  
  <p>The rest of the game has aesthetic appeal, I always imagine I am painting a picture, where each major piece is a different element and while certain art styles may incorporate different elements, such as abstract vs realism,the knight is harder to predict while the bishop is sharp and succinct.</p>
  
  <p>I haven't researched, but I feel it's a general consensus among many chess players that the game has an aesthetic appeal. You often hear players call checkmates "beautiful" or certain plays amusing and part of this may be predictability. </p>
  
  <p>In music a strong move is to create something unexpected, like you can create a gentle increasing rhythm, which is anticipated by the opponent and in the song abruptly change with a sharp strike of the violin leading into a face paced "attack" with greater speed and intensity. Of course certain musicians can predict a shift so you work to create a melody that has balance, flow, and unexpected turns to wow the audience. </p>
  
  <p>This beautiful rhythm, that is a game of chess, has personality, flow, direction, even logic, as in chess theory, becomes a mature, beautiful aspect of the piece, where the famed melodies, such as immortal game, are replayed and remembered. And while this may not explain it in the most fundamental way, I feel these are easiest to relate to.</p>
  
  <p>Haven't you ever got a bit excited, humored, or had a spine tingling moment in chess? </p>
  
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Answers.Body: <p>It was Grandmaster Siegbert Tarrasch who wrote, <a href="https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Siegbert_Tarrasch" rel="nofollow noreferrer">"Chess like love, like music, has the power to make men happy.</a></p>
  
  <p>Many, not all, good chess players have a musical bent because of the "analogies" between the two.</p>
  
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Answers.Body: <p>Judging if a move fits the position correctly or goes along well with the flow of the game, is likely similar to judging what note to play in the middle of a song. </p>
  
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  <p><a href="http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/extra/capablanca6.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/extra/capablanca6.html</a></p>
  
  <p>Instead of mathematicians I refer to logicians, so that I can imply the scientific mind per se. As for musicians, chessplayers make a difference through composing and performing at the same time, with the possible exception of opening theoreticians.</p>
  
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Answers.Body: <p>Every talent you have/learn develops also your chess skills, as it develops your brain.
  For example, I am not a musician, but having studied 5 or 6 foreign languages definitely helps a lot with recognising patterns on the board.
  Fischer said that chess has more in common with good memory rather than logical thought, but this is only true in half.
  The human brain is like a computer, the faster processor/brain it has, the larger memory it needs.</p>
  
  <p>But that is all too philosophical...</p>
  
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Body: <p>Among the world champions, at least Capablanca and Tal have suggested that chessplayers sit closer to musicians than logicians.</p>
  
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Comments.Text: I'd like to point out that both Capablanca and Tal were highly intuitive chess players (despite Capablanca crippling his style later for mercantile reasons) with lightning speed thinking. Music is being perceived intuitively as well, so that would explain their suggestions.
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Comments.Text: I'm rated >2300 and I'm tone-deaf...
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Comments.Text: Do you have any quotes? It would be interesting to see more context.
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Comments.Text: One of your questions here is which grandmasters were musicians. However, these grandmasters represent a very small subset of grandmasters in general. So how does that question clarify the question whether chessplayers and musicians have much in common?
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ThreadText: # Between chess and music
  
  (Asked by: username_0 on 2017-11-20)
  
  Among the world champions, at least Capablanca and Tal have suggested that chessplayers sit closer to musicians than logicians.
  
  **Tags:** talent
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_2**: I'm rated >2300 and I'm tone-deaf...  
  > **username_3**: Do you have any quotes? It would be interesting to see more context.  
  > **username_4**: One of your questions here is which grandmasters were musicians. However, these grandmasters represent a very small subset of grandmasters in general. So how does that question clarify the question whether chessplayers and musicians have much in common?  
  > **username_1**: I'd like to point out that both Capablanca and Tal were highly intuitive chess players (despite Capablanca crippling his style later for mercantile reasons) with lightning speed thinking. Music is being perceived intuitively as well, so that would explain their suggestions.  
  
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  ## 10 answers
  
  ### Answer by username_5 on 2017-11-20. Score: 8
  
  Mark Taimanov, WC contender in 1971, was a world-class concert pianist.
  
  [Here is a duet he played in 1957](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVg3MBLU4V8).
  
  [One more. I don't know when it was played. This one shows he and his partner playing.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GpSt-I4WqY)
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_1**: He once played a fantastic chess game that made Tal jealous and Keres said "Mark, today you played like Liszt". Here is it http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1138385  
  
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  ### Answer by username_6 on 2017-11-20. Score: 5
  
  Former world champion [Vasily Smyslov](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Smyslov#Opera_singer) was an opera singer who gave up opera for chess. Judge for yourself how good he was - <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAvrT52VXOI> .
  
  More recently (and more mundanely) [Nigel Short on guitar accompanied Elizabeth Paehtz's vocals](https://vimeo.com/105559532) at a Kasparov supporters' rally before the 2014 FIDE elections.
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_2**: Emil Sutovsky is also a skilled musician.  
  
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  ### Answer by username_7 on 2017-11-26. Score: 4
  
  The 18th century French player [Philidor](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7ois-Andr%C3%A9_Danican_Philidor) was a renown opera composer as well as the best chess player of his day.
  
  According to Jewish legend King Solomon, whose father was King David the great psalmist, was the inventor of the game.
  
  
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  ### Answer by username_8 on 2017-11-20. Score: 4
  
  Magnus Carlsen can also sing! <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVS-NIkkUrA>
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_2**: And his WC opponent Sergey Karjakin is a skilled karaoke singer.  
  
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  ### Answer by username_9 on 2017-11-21. Score: 3
  
  Perhaps it's because both music and chess requires patience, disciplined work and tons of efforts.
  
  I was also an amateur but serious musician and chess player, then I quit both of them for computer engineering. Sad. :)
  
  
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  ### Answer by username_10 on 2017-11-28. Score: 2
  
  For the most part I see logic mainly used in chess theory, it can elaborate why a certain move can be beneficial even when it would be implemented beyond your calculations, such as color affinity, but that's about the only part that takes intense logic.
  
  The rest of the game has aesthetic appeal, I always imagine I am painting a picture, where each major piece is a different element and while certain art styles may incorporate different elements, such as abstract vs realism,the knight is harder to predict while the bishop is sharp and succinct.
  
  I haven't researched, but I feel it's a general consensus among many chess players that the game has an aesthetic appeal. You often hear players call checkmates "beautiful" or certain plays amusing and part of this may be predictability.
  
  In music a strong move is to create something unexpected, like you can create a gentle increasing rhythm, which is anticipated by the opponent and in the song abruptly change with a sharp strike of the violin leading into a face paced "attack" with greater speed and intensity. Of course certain musicians can predict a shift so you work to create a melody that has balance, flow, and unexpected turns to wow the audience.
  
  This beautiful rhythm, that is a game of chess, has personality, flow, direction, even logic, as in chess theory, becomes a mature, beautiful aspect of the piece, where the famed melodies, such as immortal game, are replayed and remembered. And while this may not explain it in the most fundamental way, I feel these are easiest to relate to.
  
  Haven't you ever got a bit excited, humored, or had a spine tingling moment in chess?
  
  
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  ### Answer by username_11 on 2017-11-23. Score: 2
  
  It was Grandmaster Siegbert Tarrasch who wrote, ["Chess like love, like music, has the power to make men happy.](https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Siegbert_Tarrasch)
  
  Many, not all, good chess players have a musical bent because of the "analogies" between the two.
  
  
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  ### Answer by username_12 on 2017-11-22. Score: 2
  
  Judging if a move fits the position correctly or goes along well with the flow of the game, is likely similar to judging what note to play in the middle of a song.
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_9**: Hmm, I disagree.  
  
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  ### Answer by username_0 on 2017-11-23. Score: 2
  
  <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bb6e0gFdS4>
  
  <http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/extra/capablanca6.html>
  
  Instead of mathematicians I refer to logicians, so that I can imply the scientific mind per se. As for musicians, chessplayers make a difference through composing and performing at the same time, with the possible exception of opening theoreticians.
  
  
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  ### Answer by username_13 on 2017-11-25. Score: 0
  
  Every talent you have/learn develops also your chess skills, as it develops your brain.
  For example, I am not a musician, but having studied 5 or 6 foreign languages definitely helps a lot with recognising patterns on the board.
  Fischer said that chess has more in common with good memory rather than logical thought, but this is only true in half.
  The human brain is like a computer, the faster processor/brain it has, the larger memory it needs.
  
  But that is all too philosophical...
  
  
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