Answers.Body: <p>Another way is to bet for black in an armageddon setup (draw means win by black).</p>
  
  <p>For example, white will have say 60 min. Players bet for the time allowance of black. Whoever offers least amount plays black with that amount of time.</p>
  
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Answers.Text: This doesn't appear to answer the question.
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Answers.Text: @HerbWolfe OP asked about ways to determine who plays white/black and this answers that
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Answers.Text: I'm not familiar with this method, it looks odd to me. Do you have a source or reference?
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Answers.Text: Just to clarify, this is to determine who gets black/white *in an Armageddon game* only. Or are you saying that the outcome of this Armageddon game will determine the colour for the real (non-Armageddon) game?
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Answers.Text: @HerbWolfe this is about a way to decide who plays white in a casual setup. So whatever way you two agree and enjoy works. I'm not saying it is used in any serious tournament (although it is actually used in a televised Chinese chess tournament)
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Answers.Body: <p>The chess set I have here in front of me the pieces are both in black bags so someone picks one bag and that is what they play. I just realized this.</p>
  
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  <li><p>Pawn hand - you hold a white pawn in one hand and black pawn in the other. Your opponent picks a hand, and the color of the pawn he gets is the color he plays.</p></li>
  <li><p>Flipping a coin.</p></li>
  <li><p>Randomly generating a number x in a set of n numbers. If x is a number in the first half of the set, you go first. Else, your opponent goes first.</p></li>
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Body: <p>I have used e.g. the game of paper, stone and scissors. Is there another method which determines who has white or black? If so, what is the method? </p>
  
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Comments.Text: This doesn't seem to be a question about chess (anymore than it could apply to any boardgame, or even a sports match). However, if you want to determine who has White and who Black, simply put a pawn of each color in your hands, and let your opponent guess.
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Comments.Text: @Glorfindel i wanted to ask that. I edited
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Comments.Text: Just use any un-biased random method that has a boolean outcome.
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Title: How do I determine who has white or black?
ThreadText: # How do I determine who has white or black?
  
  (Asked by: username_0 on 2016-12-13)
  
  I have used e.g. the game of paper, stone and scissors. Is there another method which determines who has white or black? If so, what is the method?
  
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  > **Comments:**
  > **username_1**: This doesn't seem to be a question about chess (anymore than it could apply to any boardgame, or even a sports match). However, if you want to determine who has White and who Black, simply put a pawn of each color in your hands, and let your opponent guess.  
  > **username_0**: @username_1 i wanted to ask that. I edited  
  > **username_2**: Just use any un-biased random method that has a boolean outcome.  
  
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  ### Answer by username_3 on 2016-12-13. Score: 2
  
  Another way is to bet for black in an armageddon setup (draw means win by black).
  
  For example, white will have say 60 min. Players bet for the time allowance of black. Whoever offers least amount plays black with that amount of time.
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_4**: This doesn't appear to answer the question.  
  > **username_3**: @HerbWolfe OP asked about ways to determine who plays white/black and this answers that  
  > **username_4**: I'm not familiar with this method, it looks odd to me. Do you have a source or reference?  
  > **username_5**: Just to clarify, this is to determine who gets black/white *in an Armageddon game* only. Or are you saying that the outcome of this Armageddon game will determine the colour for the real (non-Armageddon) game?  
  > **username_3**: @HerbWolfe this is about a way to decide who plays white in a casual setup. So whatever way you two agree and enjoy works. I'm not saying it is used in any serious tournament (although it is actually used in a televised Chinese chess tournament)  
  
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  ### Answer by username_6 on 2019-01-04. Score: 1
  
  The chess set I have here in front of me the pieces are both in black bags so someone picks one bag and that is what they play. I just realized this.
  
  
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  ### Answer by username_7 on 2019-01-05. Score: 0
  
  * Pawn hand - you hold a white pawn in one hand and black pawn in the other. Your opponent picks a hand, and the color of the pawn he gets is the color he plays.
  * Flipping a coin.
  * Randomly generating a number x in a set of n numbers. If x is a number in the first half of the set, you go first. Else, your opponent goes first.
  
  
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