Answers.Body: <p>I think the way to approach the problem of winning this type of position is to look at what the textbooks have to say about KRvKN and try and apply that with the benefit of having an extra knight.</p>
  
  <p>Nunn identifies two wins, one where the knight and king are widely separated and one where the king gets trapped near a corner. The drawing plan for the K+N is to keep the two pieces together near the center of the board.</p>
  
  <p>Fine (still a useful reference more 70 years after being published!) identifies 3 winning strategies:</p>
  
  <p>1) Mating threats</p>
  
  <p>2) Pinning the knight against the king when the king has to abandon the knight</p>
  
  <p>3) Stalemating the knight and capturing it.</p>
  
  <p>With an additional knight these threats can be more generalized because if the knights are exchanged the win is easy and the stronger side can even sacrifice his knight to lure the opposing knight far enough away from the king to make it winnable.</p>
  
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Answers.Body: <p>The Win for the player with the Rook would be very hard to achieve. There is no real way to explain it without an in depth book reading im sorry to say. </p>
  
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Answers.Text: Yes! If you make a mistake you can lose the win! For those well versed in endgames maybe not but in the general sense it can be challenging. Your opponent still has a dangerous piece on the board so you can NEVER view the situation as an "easy win" Material wise yes you have the win but the player with the knight will be doing everything in his power to get a draw.
  When I say hard I am more refearing to the fact if you careful you may lose your chance. If you know what your doing then yes its easy but when the game is on the line dont take such situations so lightly
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Answers.Text: I downvoted because it is really extremely easy. Beginners are prone to give check or to attack the knight at every move without having any plan in mind. The two elements of a correct plan are deciding the direction in which you want to drive the King, and controlling the squares available for the K or N to move to, rather than the squares they are already on. The Knight is not a dangerous piece. True, you might get forked if you fall asleep, but that is not enough to make this endgame difficult
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Body: <p>I ended up struggling quite a bit to finish off this position against a better player (I had the knight) and I'm pretty sure he did not play optimally. I've not found much info of this end game. Is a King, Rook and Knight vs King and Knight end game generally a win for the player with the rook?</p>
  
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Comments.Text: You can always put some random positions (with at most 6 pieces) into http://www.shredderchess.com/online-chess/online-databases/endgame-database.html and see what it says, but that isn't very instructive.
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Comments.Text: Generally, YES!
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Comments.Text: @Jik interesting tool! I'll have a look and see if I can analyse how the end game was going based on that.
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Comments.Text: Seems I was doing OK but any wrong move and the number of moves to mate increases considerably. It looks like it is a win that requires really accurate play.
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Title: Is a King, Rook and Knight vs King and Knight end game generally a win for the player with the rook?
ThreadText: # Is a King, Rook and Knight vs King and Knight end game generally a win for the player with the rook?
  
  (Asked by: username_0 on 2014-12-10)
  
  I ended up struggling quite a bit to finish off this position against a better player (I had the knight) and I'm pretty sure he did not play optimally. I've not found much info of this end game. Is a King, Rook and Knight vs King and Knight end game generally a win for the player with the rook?
  
  **Tags:** endgame, rook-and-minor-endgame
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_1**: You can always put some random positions (with at most 6 pieces) into http://www.shredderchess.com/online-chess/online-databases/endgame-database.html and see what it says, but that isn't very instructive.  
  > **username_2**: Generally, YES!  
  > **username_0**: @Jik interesting tool! I'll have a look and see if I can analyse how the end game was going based on that.  
  > **username_0**: Seems I was doing OK but any wrong move and the number of moves to mate increases considerably. It looks like it is a win that requires really accurate play.  
  
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  ### Answer by username_3 on 2014-12-27. Score: 2 | Accepted answer
  
  I think the way to approach the problem of winning this type of position is to look at what the textbooks have to say about KRvKN and try and apply that with the benefit of having an extra knight.
  
  Nunn identifies two wins, one where the knight and king are widely separated and one where the king gets trapped near a corner. The drawing plan for the K+N is to keep the two pieces together near the center of the board.
  
  Fine (still a useful reference more 70 years after being published!) identifies 3 winning strategies:
  
  1) Mating threats
  
  2) Pinning the knight against the king when the king has to abandon the knight
  
  3) Stalemating the knight and capturing it.
  
  With an additional knight these threats can be more generalized because if the knights are exchanged the win is easy and the stronger side can even sacrifice his knight to lure the opposing knight far enough away from the king to make it winnable.
  
  
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  ### Answer by username_4 on 2014-12-11. Score: 0
  
  The Win for the player with the Rook would be very hard to achieve. There is no real way to explain it without an in depth book reading im sorry to say.
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_4**: Yes! If you make a mistake you can lose the win! For those well versed in endgames maybe not but in the general sense it can be challenging. Your opponent still has a dangerous piece on the board so you can NEVER view the situation as an "easy win" Material wise yes you have the win but the player with the knight will be doing everything in his power to get a draw. When I say hard I am more refearing to the fact if you careful you may lose your chance. If you know what your doing then yes its easy but when the game is on the line dont take such situations so lightly  
  > **username_5**: I downvoted because it is really extremely easy. Beginners are prone to give check or to attack the knight at every move without having any plan in mind. The two elements of a correct plan are deciding the direction in which you want to drive the King, and controlling the squares available for the K or N to move to, rather than the squares they are already on. The Knight is not a dangerous piece. True, you might get forked if you fall asleep, but that is not enough to make this endgame difficult  
  
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