Answers.Body: <p>The move 7. Ng5 is bad because Black can defend f7 easily with e5 and Qd7, which is an improvement of the queens position and then chase away the knight with h6. White has played two moves Nf3-Ng5-Nf3 and ended up in the same configuration, but Black has played only one move, h6, and thus White has lost a move. For example, imagine White played 7. Bd2, then 7...e5 8. Qc4 Qd7. We have basically the same position, except White has his bishop on d2 instead of c1. By playing Ng5 you are just losing a move, what is called a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempo_%28chess%29#Losing_a_tempo" rel="nofollow">loss of tempo</a> in chess.</p>
  
  <p>Also, the Queen is exposed on c4. Black can get a big advantage by putting pressure on White's e-pawn. For example, one line is 9. Nc3 Nf6 10. Bd2 h6! 11. Nf3 b5! 11. Qe2 Qb7 with a big advantage for Black.</p>
  
  <p>The only possible point I can see for 7. Ng5 is to play f4, but Black can answer in the same way: 10. f4 b5! 11. Qd3 Qb7 once again with an advantage for Black due to the uncomfortable pressure on the e-pawn.</p>
  
  <p>This outcome only occurs because White has lost a move. If White plays Nc3 and 0-0 he can easily defend the e-pawn and the same maneuver by Black will not work.</p>
  
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Answers.Body: <p>Strategically the knight is misplaced on g5.  When black plays e5 in the Sicilian, the ideas revolve around white trying to control the d5 square, and black trying to play d6-d5.  Simply put, if black can play d5 damaging his position (i.e. sometimes if the king is still in the center d5 opens up the black king) black will have a clear advantage due to the central pawn majority.  </p>
  
  <p>In order to control the d5 square, white usually plays Nc3 and Bg5.  Bg5 is important because it will either pin black's knight to the queen or allow white to trade off black's knight that controls d5.  With the white knight on g5, black will eventually gain a tempo by playing h6 which will also prevent access to g5 by the dark square bishop.</p>
  
  <p>Additionally, with the queen out of the way on d7, black can quickly play Ra8-d8 in order to take better control of the d file and help support the eventual d5 push.  All of this would be pretty comfortable for black anyways, but in the Chekhover, black also has the bishop pair which will benefit from the opening of the center when black plays d5.  </p>
  
  <p>Long story short, white is ceding a fairly large positional edge to black in exchange for some very short term tricks.  That's not to say that white is losing, but after Ng5, black can easily claim equality straight out of the opening, and black has very good prospects to consolidate an advantage.</p>
  
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Body: <p>Recently I found the game <a href="http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1140304" rel="nofollow">Tal vs. Byrne (1976)</a>, that opens with <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicilian_Defence,_Chekhover_Variation" rel="nofollow">Chekhover Variation of the Sicilian Defense</a>. What got my attention in this variation was move <strong>7</strong>, for, just like Tal did, every engine says that the best move is <strong>7. Nc3</strong>, but for some reason I like how <strong>7. Ng5</strong> looks:</p>
  
  <pre><code>[FEN ""]
  1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Qxd4 Nc6 5. Bb5 Bd7 6. Bxc6 Bxc6 7. Ng5!? (7. Ng5 e5 8. Qc4 Qd7)
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  <p>Stockfish 6 says it is slightly better for black (-0.8 at depth=22 to be precise), but the main idea is simply to explore the weakness of the f7 pawn. The main line I was thinking was <strong>7... e5 8. Qc4</strong>, the natural urge to punish the white queen at the center creates the threat of mate on f7, so black is somewhat obligated to lift the queen to the 7th rank. Anyway, if this "trick" fails, for example after <strong>8... Qd7</strong>, there is no immediate advantage for white, and it seems that the only difference from Tal's 1976 variation is that here white is behind in development (and ready to be punished!).</p>
  
  <p>I couldn't find any game with the move <strong>7. Ng5</strong> in chessgames.com, but I still think that it is a natural looking move that seems to have a possible tactic behind it, even if I wasn't able to find. So my question is:</p>
  
  <blockquote>
    <p>Is <strong>7. Ng5</strong> really <em>only</em> a bad move? The downside is that obvious? Or there is a possible tactic behind it? (besides the threat of mate on f7 after <strong>7... e5 8. Qc4</strong>)</p>
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Comments.Text: This is what is called a beginners' move.  The one move threat is easily parried, and White's position is worse for playing it.  Another common one is playing h6 to prevent this Knight move.
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Tags: <tactics><sicilian-defense><minor-variations>
Title: A tactic on the Chekhover variation of the Sicilian?
ThreadText: # A tactic on the Chekhover variation of the Sicilian?
  
  (Asked by: username_0 on 2015-12-02)
  
  Recently I found the game [Tal vs. Byrne (1976)](http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1140304), that opens with [Chekhover Variation of the Sicilian Defense](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicilian_Defence,_Chekhover_Variation). What got my attention in this variation was move **7**, for, just like Tal did, every engine says that the best move is **7. Nc3**, but for some reason I like how **7. Ng5** looks:
  
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  [FEN ""]
  1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Qxd4 Nc6 5. Bb5 Bd7 6. Bxc6 Bxc6 7. Ng5!? (7. Ng5 e5 8. Qc4 Qd7)
  
  ```
  
  Stockfish 6 says it is slightly better for black (-0.8 at depth=22 to be precise), but the main idea is simply to explore the weakness of the f7 pawn. The main line I was thinking was **7... e5 8. Qc4**, the natural urge to punish the white queen at the center creates the threat of mate on f7, so black is somewhat obligated to lift the queen to the 7th rank. Anyway, if this "trick" fails, for example after **8... Qd7**, there is no immediate advantage for white, and it seems that the only difference from Tal's 1976 variation is that here white is behind in development (and ready to be punished!).
  
  I couldn't find any game with the move **7. Ng5** in chessgames.com, but I still think that it is a natural looking move that seems to have a possible tactic behind it, even if I wasn't able to find. So my question is:
  
  > Is **7. Ng5** really *only* a bad move? The downside is that obvious? Or there is a possible tactic behind it? (besides the threat of mate on f7 after **7... e5 8. Qc4**)
  
  **Tags:** tactics, sicilian-defense, minor-variations
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_1**: This is what is called a beginners' move.  The one move threat is easily parried, and White's position is worse for playing it.  Another common one is playing h6 to prevent this Knight move.  
  
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  ### Answer by username_3 on 2015-12-02. Score: 4 | Accepted answer
  
  Strategically the knight is misplaced on g5. When black plays e5 in the Sicilian, the ideas revolve around white trying to control the d5 square, and black trying to play d6-d5. Simply put, if black can play d5 damaging his position (i.e. sometimes if the king is still in the center d5 opens up the black king) black will have a clear advantage due to the central pawn majority.
  
  In order to control the d5 square, white usually plays Nc3 and Bg5. Bg5 is important because it will either pin black's knight to the queen or allow white to trade off black's knight that controls d5. With the white knight on g5, black will eventually gain a tempo by playing h6 which will also prevent access to g5 by the dark square bishop.
  
  Additionally, with the queen out of the way on d7, black can quickly play Ra8-d8 in order to take better control of the d file and help support the eventual d5 push. All of this would be pretty comfortable for black anyways, but in the Chekhover, black also has the bishop pair which will benefit from the opening of the center when black plays d5.
  
  Long story short, white is ceding a fairly large positional edge to black in exchange for some very short term tricks. That's not to say that white is losing, but after Ng5, black can easily claim equality straight out of the opening, and black has very good prospects to consolidate an advantage.
  
  
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  ### Answer by username_2 on 2015-12-02. Score: 1
  
  The move 7. Ng5 is bad because Black can defend f7 easily with e5 and Qd7, which is an improvement of the queens position and then chase away the knight with h6. White has played two moves Nf3-Ng5-Nf3 and ended up in the same configuration, but Black has played only one move, h6, and thus White has lost a move. For example, imagine White played 7. Bd2, then 7...e5 8. Qc4 Qd7. We have basically the same position, except White has his bishop on d2 instead of c1. By playing Ng5 you are just losing a move, what is called a [loss of tempo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempo_%28chess%29#Losing_a_tempo) in chess.
  
  Also, the Queen is exposed on c4. Black can get a big advantage by putting pressure on White's e-pawn. For example, one line is 9. Nc3 Nf6 10. Bd2 h6! 11. Nf3 b5! 11. Qe2 Qb7 with a big advantage for Black.
  
  The only possible point I can see for 7. Ng5 is to play f4, but Black can answer in the same way: 10. f4 b5! 11. Qd3 Qb7 once again with an advantage for Black due to the uncomfortable pressure on the e-pawn.
  
  This outcome only occurs because White has lost a move. If White plays Nc3 and 0-0 he can easily defend the e-pawn and the same maneuver by Black will not work.
  
  
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