Answers.Body: <p>Just to offer a different answer:</p>
  <p>No. No takebacks, no draw offers. In short time controls this is part of the game. It's the same as a blunder under pressure. I pressured the opponent on either time or position, and the person cracked and made a mistake.</p>
  <p>Or your other example, of moving the king instead of castling in the beginning: That's what one get for trying to blitz out moves. Might save you a second here and there, but the risk is these mis-clicks. That's a price my opponent will have to pay, can't have the cake and eat it too.</p>
  <p>(For longer time controls (1h+) I might think trying to salvage the game is the right choice, but I only really play 5min and below)</p>
  
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Answers.Body: <p>It is perfectly good etiquette. </p>
  
  <p>Something similar happened in an Amber blindfold <a href="https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1488162" rel="noreferrer">Gelfand - Kramnik</a>:</p>
  
  <pre><code>[FEN ""]
  
  1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. e3 Bg4 5. h3 Bxf3 6. Qxf3 e6
  7. Nc3 Nbd7 8. Bd2 Bb4 9. Bd3 O-O 10. a3 Ba5 11. O-O Re8
  12. b4 Bc7 13. cxd5 exd5 14. b5 Nf8 15. bxc6 bxc6 16. Qd1 Ne6
  17. Qa4 c5 18. Nb5 Bb6 19. dxc5 Nxc5 20. Qc2 Nfe4 21. Bb4 Nxd3
  22. Qxd3 Qd7 23. Nc3 Qe6 24. Qxe4 1/2-1/2
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    <p>"In case you wonder if the final move of the blindfold game between Boris Gelfand and Vladimir Kramnik was really 24.Qxe4 and if the result was nevertheless a draw despite White blundering his queen, we can tell you that in both cases the answer is affirmative. In the position after his 23rd move, Kramnik was expecting Gelfand to play 24.Nxe4 and after this move he intended to offer a draw. However, due to a ‘fingerfehler’, Gelfand didn’t move the knight to e4 but his queen. Kramnik understood what had happened and having no wish to win in such a manner he offered a draw anyhow. As Gelfand put it after the game: ‘He is a gentleman."</p>
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Answers.Text: This is certainly the most considerate answer, with a great example.  Do you really want a mental asterisk next to your ranking indicating "Only won because someone else accidentally clicked the wrong piece"?  Chess is a game of skill and I prefer to win or lose fair and square, not because someone obviously clicked the wrong piece.
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Answers.Text: @RockPaperLizard But shouldn't the opponent have an asterisk next to his draw? "Only drew because opponent let him after he made a blunder"
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Answers.Text: @Matsemann but _is_ it a blunder? A blunder is if a player selects a move and that move has unexpected consequences in the game. But here the question is about, the player selected _another_ move but merely the mechanics of how that move is entered caused it to be recorded wrong. Sure, it's still a mistake, but not a blunder.
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Answers.Text: How exactly do you have a "fingerfehler" in a blindfold chess game? Don't the players announce their moves?
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Answers.Text: @user21820 speculative, but “конь” (Belarusian for horse/knight) is pronounced \[kɔnʲ\], which could easily be misheard as \[kwiːn\], i.e. queen.
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Answers.Text: @leftaroundabout a bit late to the party but yes it is a blunder. First of all, e.g. on lichess you can play with move confirmations. If you risk disabling these to gain a second or two every move knowing full well that you might misclick, and then you get punished for it then that is only due to your mistake. Furthermore, even without move confirmations if you play carefully enough then unless your mouse is broken you won't misclick. Misclicks happen when a player rushes to make a move and because of that loses precision. If you go for that tradeoff you have to accept the downsides too.
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Answers.Text: To elaborate on that, I have played hundreds of online rapid and classical games, I have not once misclicked; why? Because I took my time moving the piece to make sure I put it on the correct square. This may cost me a few seconds, maybe two minutes over the course of a full game but in rapid that is worth it for me. If it's not for you then you gotta live with the risk of misclicking.
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Answers.Text: @user21820, online blindfold games are played with a chessboard on screen but no pieces are shown. Opponent's current move is shown by highlighting two squares and your move is done by first clicking the starting square then clicking the target square.  They are probably playing in this fashion.
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Answers.Text: @jf328: Hmm, thanks for explaining what can happen in online blindfold chess games, but [the wikipedia page for this tournament](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amber_chess_tournament) makes it seem like it is *not* online.
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Answers.Body: <p>The most common term for that is actually a "mouse-slip".</p>
  
  <p>Mouse-slips are dealt with differently by different players. There is no right or wrong answer since it is a personal decision. Some players on the Internet Chess Club used to put in their notes "no takebacks", meaning that if you had a mouse-slip, it was too bad for you.</p>
  
  <p>For me, when I played blitz online, I played for fun, and I liked to be nice, but it would depend on the position. If the person were already dead lost, and maybe should already resign, I might just keep that queen, but otherwise, I would offer a takeback on ICC. You are also correct that if the opponent already had a bad reputation with me, I also might not be as inclined to give a takeback.</p>
  
  <p>Since chess.com does not have takebacks, as for what I would do today, you can substitute a draw offer instead. </p>
  
  <p>How you handle it is really up to you, and how you feel about the exact circumstances of the game.</p>
  
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Answers.Text: Thanks! I mostly play at chess.com where taking back is not an option. Thus I was asking about offering a draw.
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Answers.Text: Ahh, I have a membership there, but I have never played there. In that case, I would look at the position, and if I were significantly better without the mouse-slip, I might not offer, but if it were pretty equal, then I probably would make the offer too. I don't really play blitz anymore except at the local clubs.
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Answers.Text: I checked, and it appears that chess24.com also does not have takebacks, but lichess.com does.
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Answers.Text: **lichess.org** offers takebacks, but they can be disabled by individual players. If one player disables takebacks, then they can't be offered in any game with that player.
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Answers.Text: Actually, if I were the player who misfired, I might not accept that draw offer if I were a nice player (and I like to think I am), just sort of as a "oh, yeah, my bad" offer. I might resign instead if it were a really serious mistake.
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Answers.Text: @user45266 And I have seen that happen too. Again, I think it really comes down to the position, circumstances, and the people involved. There is no right, or wrong, and whatever makes the person feel good about himself/herself is what is right. After all, it is just a blitz game, right? :)
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Answers.Text: @Zuriel Chess.com doesn't offer takebacks, but it does have an option that prevents mouse-slips: confirmation of every move.
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Answers.Body: <p>An alternative if you want to be nice when your opponent misclicks is to make a waiting move. You might still benefit a bit from the tempo, but certainly not as much as if you had taken advantage of the blunder. For example, if White played Qd7 when the intent was clearly Qxd8, Black might play a relatively innocent move such as ...a6, so White can then play the intended Qxd8.</p>
  
  <p>[Note: the above specific example might not be possible if the black king is in e8, as is likely the case! :-)]</p>
  
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Answers.Body: <p>First of all, if an opponent misclicks, you should also misclick to even the score. second. If the game is very important, then you should win.</p>
  
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Answers.Body: <p>I consider that managing your mouse is one of the skills of online chess.  I'll take the win. </p>
  
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Answers.Body: <p>I like to enjoy my chess. Equally so, I like my opponent to enjoy their chess too. If I feel like a misclick has spoiled the fun or if I'm winning <em>because</em> of a misclick, then I'll offer the draw.</p>
  <p>There's a simple test for this. After that misclick, will you feel bad about winning the game? Check in with yourself about it. Your conscience is perfectly capable of determining the correct course of action <em>for you</em> at any given moment. Generalizing this is only going to cause suffering!</p>
  
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Body: <p>For example, instead of capturing (and therefore exchanging) the queen on d8, white moved his queen from d1 to d7, and black can capture this queen for free. This is very likely the result of a misclick by white. Another example is moving the king for no reason in the opening stage. In this case, is it considered good etiquette for black to offer the draw, instead of taking advantage of white's misclick?</p>
  
  <p>Some possible exceptions: </p>
  
  <ol>
  <li>My position is already winning before my opponent's misclick.</li>
  <li>My position is still losing even after my opponent's misclick.</li>
  <li>My opponent made a blunder which does not seem to be a  misclick.</li>
  <li>My opponent demonstrated bad sportsmanship before misclicking.</li>
  </ol>
  
  <p>In all above four cases, I will not offer draw. </p>
  
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Title: In a online game, is it considered good etiquette to offer a draw when the opponent obviously misclicked?
ThreadText: # In a online game, is it considered good etiquette to offer a draw when the opponent obviously misclicked?
  
  (Asked by: username_0 on 2020-03-15)
  
  For example, instead of capturing (and therefore exchanging) the queen on d8, white moved his queen from d1 to d7, and black can capture this queen for free. This is very likely the result of a misclick by white. Another example is moving the king for no reason in the opening stage. In this case, is it considered good etiquette for black to offer the draw, instead of taking advantage of white's misclick?
  
  Some possible exceptions:
  
  1. My position is already winning before my opponent's misclick.
  2. My position is still losing even after my opponent's misclick.
  3. My opponent made a blunder which does not seem to be a misclick.
  4. My opponent demonstrated bad sportsmanship before misclicking.
  
  In all above four cases, I will not offer draw.
  
  **Tags:** online-chess, etiquette
  
  
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  ## 7 answers
  
  ### Answer by username_16 on 2020-03-17. Score: 6 | Accepted answer
  
  I like to enjoy my chess. Equally so, I like my opponent to enjoy their chess too. If I feel like a misclick has spoiled the fun or if I'm winning *because* of a misclick, then I'll offer the draw.
  
  There's a simple test for this. After that misclick, will you feel bad about winning the game? Check in with yourself about it. Your conscience is perfectly capable of determining the correct course of action *for you* at any given moment. Generalizing this is only going to cause suffering!
  
  
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  ### Answer by username_1 on 2020-03-15. Score: 34
  
  Just to offer a different answer:
  
  No. No takebacks, no draw offers. In short time controls this is part of the game. It's the same as a blunder under pressure. I pressured the opponent on either time or position, and the person cracked and made a mistake.
  
  Or your other example, of moving the king instead of castling in the beginning: That's what one get for trying to blitz out moves. Might save you a second here and there, but the risk is these mis-clicks. That's a price my opponent will have to pay, can't have the cake and eat it too.
  
  (For longer time controls (1h+) I might think trying to salvage the game is the right choice, but I only really play 5min and below)
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_2**: Is the last paragraph in smaller text really necessary? I believe it is as important as the rest of the answer and should be in regular sized font.  
  
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  ### Answer by username_3 on 2020-03-15. Score: 28
  
  It is perfectly good etiquette.
  
  Something similar happened in an Amber blindfold [Gelfand - Kramnik](https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1488162):
  
  ```
  [FEN ""]
  
  1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. e3 Bg4 5. h3 Bxf3 6. Qxf3 e6
  7. Nc3 Nbd7 8. Bd2 Bb4 9. Bd3 O-O 10. a3 Ba5 11. O-O Re8
  12. b4 Bc7 13. cxd5 exd5 14. b5 Nf8 15. bxc6 bxc6 16. Qd1 Ne6
  17. Qa4 c5 18. Nb5 Bb6 19. dxc5 Nxc5 20. Qc2 Nfe4 21. Bb4 Nxd3
  22. Qxd3 Qd7 23. Nc3 Qe6 24. Qxe4 1/2-1/2
  
  ```
  
  > "In case you wonder if the final move of the blindfold game between Boris Gelfand and Vladimir Kramnik was really 24.Qxe4 and if the result was nevertheless a draw despite White blundering his queen, we can tell you that in both cases the answer is affirmative. In the position after his 23rd move, Kramnik was expecting Gelfand to play 24.Nxe4 and after this move he intended to offer a draw. However, due to a ‘fingerfehler’, Gelfand didn’t move the knight to e4 but his queen. Kramnik understood what had happened and having no wish to win in such a manner he offered a draw anyhow. As Gelfand put it after the game: ‘He is a gentleman."
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_4**: This is certainly the most considerate answer, with a great example.  Do you really want a mental asterisk next to your ranking indicating "Only won because someone else accidentally clicked the wrong piece"?  Chess is a game of skill and I prefer to win or lose fair and square, not because someone obviously clicked the wrong piece.  
  > **username_1**: @RockPaperLizard But shouldn't the opponent have an asterisk next to his draw? "Only drew because opponent let him after he made a blunder"  
  > **username_5**: @username_1 but _is_ it a blunder? A blunder is if a player selects a move and that move has unexpected consequences in the game. But here the question is about, the player selected _another_ move but merely the mechanics of how that move is entered caused it to be recorded wrong. Sure, it's still a mistake, but not a blunder.  
  > **username_6**: How exactly do you have a "fingerfehler" in a blindfold chess game? Don't the players announce their moves?  
  > **username_5**: @username_6 speculative, but “конь” (Belarusian for horse/knight) is pronounced \[kɔnʲ\], which could easily be misheard as \[kwiːn\], i.e. queen.  
  > **username_7**: @username_5 a bit late to the party but yes it is a blunder. First of all, e.g. on lichess you can play with move confirmations. If you risk disabling these to gain a second or two every move knowing full well that you might misclick, and then you get punished for it then that is only due to your mistake. Furthermore, even without move confirmations if you play carefully enough then unless your mouse is broken you won't misclick. Misclicks happen when a player rushes to make a move and because of that loses precision. If you go for that tradeoff you have to accept the downsides too.  
  > **username_7**: To elaborate on that, I have played hundreds of online rapid and classical games, I have not once misclicked; why? Because I took my time moving the piece to make sure I put it on the correct square. This may cost me a few seconds, maybe two minutes over the course of a full game but in rapid that is worth it for me. If it's not for you then you gotta live with the risk of misclicking.  
  > **username_8**: @username_6, online blindfold games are played with a chessboard on screen but no pieces are shown. Opponent's current move is shown by highlighting two squares and your move is done by first clicking the starting square then clicking the target square.  They are probably playing in this fashion.  
  > **username_6**: @username_8: Hmm, thanks for explaining what can happen in online blindfold chess games, but [the wikipedia page for this tournament](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amber_chess_tournament) makes it seem like it is *not* online.  
  
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  ### Answer by username_9 on 2020-03-15. Score: 12
  
  The most common term for that is actually a "mouse-slip".
  
  Mouse-slips are dealt with differently by different players. There is no right or wrong answer since it is a personal decision. Some players on the Internet Chess Club used to put in their notes "no takebacks", meaning that if you had a mouse-slip, it was too bad for you.
  
  For me, when I played blitz online, I played for fun, and I liked to be nice, but it would depend on the position. If the person were already dead lost, and maybe should already resign, I might just keep that queen, but otherwise, I would offer a takeback on ICC. You are also correct that if the opponent already had a bad reputation with me, I also might not be as inclined to give a takeback.
  
  Since chess.com does not have takebacks, as for what I would do today, you can substitute a draw offer instead.
  
  How you handle it is really up to you, and how you feel about the exact circumstances of the game.
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_0**: Thanks! I mostly play at chess.com where taking back is not an option. Thus I was asking about offering a draw.  
  > **username_9**: Ahh, I have a membership there, but I have never played there. In that case, I would look at the position, and if I were significantly better without the mouse-slip, I might not offer, but if it were pretty equal, then I probably would make the offer too. I don't really play blitz anymore except at the local clubs.  
  > **username_9**: I checked, and it appears that chess24.com also does not have takebacks, but lichess.com does.  
  > **username_10**: **lichess.org** offers takebacks, but they can be disabled by individual players. If one player disables takebacks, then they can't be offered in any game with that player.  
  > **username_11**: Actually, if I were the player who misfired, I might not accept that draw offer if I were a nice player (and I like to think I am), just sort of as a "oh, yeah, my bad" offer. I might resign instead if it were a really serious mistake.  
  > **username_9**: @username_11 And I have seen that happen too. Again, I think it really comes down to the position, circumstances, and the people involved. There is no right, or wrong, and whatever makes the person feel good about himself/herself is what is right. After all, it is just a blitz game, right? :)  
  > **username_12**: @username_0 Chess.com doesn't offer takebacks, but it does have an option that prevents mouse-slips: confirmation of every move.  
  
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  ### Answer by username_13 on 2020-03-17. Score: 4
  
  An alternative if you want to be nice when your opponent misclicks is to make a waiting move. You might still benefit a bit from the tempo, but certainly not as much as if you had taken advantage of the blunder. For example, if White played Qd7 when the intent was clearly Qxd8, Black might play a relatively innocent move such as ...a6, so White can then play the intended Qxd8.
  
  [Note: the above specific example might not be possible if the black king is in e8, as is likely the case! :-)]
  
  
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  ### Answer by username_14 on 2020-03-16. Score: 3
  
  First of all, if an opponent misclicks, you should also misclick to even the score. second. If the game is very important, then you should win.
  
  
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  ### Answer by username_15 on 2020-03-15. Score: 2
  
  I consider that managing your mouse is one of the skills of online chess. I'll take the win.
  
  
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