<p><strong>Builders (and Pigs) are not followers and are not counted when calculating a majority.</strong></p>

<p>In your case, the city would be scored for the owner of the big follower.</p>

<p>Originally, builders and pigs were followers but this was changed a while back.  Rio Grande Games adopted this rule upon the release of the Big Box Edition.</p>

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2011-12-13T04:35:22.150Z
Before that, even... I bought T&B before the big box was released, and the builder and pig didn't count towards victory on a given feature.
aramis
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<p>The rules say  you can have more than one builder on a road or in a city, so what happens when a city is completed and it has a follower and builder of one person and a big follower and builder of another person? Does the builder count as a follower or do you only count the other normal followers?</p>

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Does a builder count as a follower when scoring?
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# Does a builder count as a follower when scoring?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2011-12-13)

The rules say you can have more than one builder on a road or in a city, so what happens when a city is completed and it has a follower and builder of one person and a big follower and builder of another person? Does the builder count as a follower or do you only count the other normal followers?

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### Answer by username_1 on 2011-12-13. Score: 8

**Builders (and Pigs) are not followers and are not counted when calculating a majority.**

In your case, the city would be scored for the owner of the big follower.

Originally, builders and pigs were followers but this was changed a while back. Rio Grande Games adopted this rule upon the release of the Big Box Edition.

> **Comments:**
> **username_2**: Before that, even... I bought T&B before the big box was released, and the builder and pig didn't count towards victory on a given feature.  

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