<p>The cardboard boxes that come with "fat packs" are sturdy, reasonably portable, and visually appealing. I don't think one can hold 750 sleeved cards, but two should be sufficient. Third-party online shops often resell just the boxes individually for a few dollars.</p>

<p>Players are going to need to sleeve up their basic lands anyway, so I see no reason not to put sleeves on them ahead of time.</p>

<p>If you're a perfectionist looking to make your Cube contain absolutely everything needed for play, your box could also include:</p>

<ul>
<li>Appropriate tokens for the cards in your cube (unsleeved or using different-color sleeves, to avoid confusion).</li>
<li>A few extra sleeves to replace any that get damaged in play (not the biggest deal because you can always just steal sleeves from a few basic lands, but still handy).</li>
<li>Life dice and counters (to save space and weight, small d6s are probably better than colored beads).</li>
</ul>

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2012-07-25T00:03:53.587Z
You actually probably want to have a full pack or two of matching sleeves with the cube at any given time. With my buddy's cube, we wind up replacing anywhere from 5 to 20 sleeves a night when we sit down to cube with 6 to 8 people.
WLPhoenix
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2012-07-25T00:59:53.663Z
@WLPhoenix That kinda sounds like a case of bad sleeves.
Alex P
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2013-05-15T06:06:28.303Z
I've been using these boxes for a while now and I'm quite pleased. Our 540 cube with lands (all sleeved) fits well in 3 of these boxes. I've been using a 4th box for different kind of tokens, dices and extra sleeves.
AndSoYouCode
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2016-09-08T17:20:02.350Z
My fat packs can hold 360 sleeved cards. Are you using penny sleeves?
Cees Timmerman
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2016-09-14T04:59:57.513Z
This isn't really an answer, but above and beyond sleeving I'll actually suggest double-sleeves - perfect fits on the cards directly, then slotted into e.g. KMC's super mat/hyper mat series or the equivalent.
Steven Stadnicki
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2012-07-11T14:55:33.983Z
2012-07-11T14:55:33.983Z
Alex P
<p>Probably, the best way to store a cube is in a properly sized corrugated trading card box. These boxes are <a href="http://www.bcwsupplies.com/products/corrugated-storage-boxes/trading-card-storage-boxes/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">fairly cheap</a>, and with your local friendly game store's 100% markup, they shouldn't run you more than a couple dollars.</p>

<p><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/UmD9j.jpg" alt="Corrugated TCG Box"></p>

<p>I wouldn't use booster pack boxes or shoe boxes. Booster boxes are too flimsy, because the are designed for display purposes. You might spill your cards everywhere. Shoeboxes do not have trading card dimensions (Each MtG card is approximately 63 x 88 mm in size), so it will be more difficult to keep the cards in order as you will have several stacks.</p>

<p>I would sleeve all your cards, including the basic lands. You will eventually need to play with the basic lands after the cube draft, so you will save everyone some time by having all the basic lands sleeved identically to the cube draft cards. As far as sizing your corrugated trading card box, that just comes down to some simple math:</p>

<p>(<strong>Note:</strong> I am using 288 microns for MtG card thickness, from <a href="http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=420153" rel="nofollow noreferrer">mtgsalvation thread</a>. The Wikipedia page says 305 microns, but the information isn't cited either. The difference is only 0.5" for 740 cards)</p>

<pre><code>|                |Thickness|      | Total | Total  | Total  |
|Card/Sleeve Type|(microns)|#Cards| (cm)  | (inch) |Sleeved |
+----------------+---------+------+-------+--------+--------+
|Magic Card      |     288 |  740 | 21.29 |  8.384 |  8.38" |
|Unnamed (thick) |     110 |  740 |  8.14 |  3.205 | 14.8"  | 
|Unnamed (thick) |     110 |  540 |  5.94 |  2.339 |        |
|Dragon Shield   |     100 |  740 |  7.4  |  2.913 | 14.2"  |
|Dragon Shield   |     100 |  540 |  5.4  |  2.126 |        |
|Mayday Premium  |      90 |  740 |  6.66 |  2.622 | 13.6"  |
|Mayday Premium  |      90 |  540 |  4.86 |  1.913 |        |
|"Penny" (thin)  |      40 |  740 |  2.96 |  1.165 | 10.7"  |
|"Penny" (thin)  |      40 |  540 |  2.16 |  0.850 |        |
+----------------+---------+------+-------+--------+--------+
</code></pre>

<p>If you don't sleeve the cards at all, you will need a corrugated box with 8.38 inches interior space. Depending upon <a href="http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/627681/mayday-games-standard-card-sleeve-equivalent" rel="nofollow noreferrer">what thickness sleeves</a> you are using, your cube will fit somewhere between 11"-15" (sleeve thickness doubled, since there are 2 sides). You can get a box that fits your cube snugly, or a slightly longer box so it is easier to remove cards. You can always use deckboxes to pad the extra space, or split the cube from the basic lands.</p>

<p>I did some testing with some penny sleeves I had, to verify some of the above numbers. 100 penny sleeves were about 1/2", so sleeving 740 should be about 3.75", which is quite a bit higher than the 2.33" estimate (after doubling thickness). The largest corrugated boxes sold have just over a 14" interior length, so you might have to store your basic lands in a different box than your cube.</p>

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2015-01-30T19:45:21.533Z
FWIW, I presume that when OP mentions 'shoe boxes' they mean the two-row card boxes of comparable dimensions; this is how I've always heard the phrase used.
Steven Stadnicki
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2012-07-12T01:24:48.217Z
2012-07-12T05:48:10.737Z
2012-07-12T05:48:10.737Z
user1873
<p>Ultra-Pro has released <a href="http://www.ultrapro.com/product_info.php?products_id=3115" rel="nofollow noreferrer">a product for cube storage</a>:</p>

<p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/yBTfp.jpg" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/yBTfp.jpg" alt="Ultra-Pro MOX CUB3"></a></p>

<blockquote>
  <p>The MOX CUB3™, designed for Cubing, features a unique 2-level storage
  design. Holds 900 standard double-sleeved gaming cards in Ultra•PRO
  PRO-Fit &amp; Deck Protector sleeves. Compartment for dice, stones and
  other accessories. Secure magnetic closure. 8½” x 8½” x 8½” (215.9mm x
  215.9mm x 215.9mm).</p>
</blockquote>

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2016-09-09T20:39:17.577Z
I'm curious if JWilson would like to endorse or modify the recent edit? In particular, adding a negative review of the originally posted solution does not feel like honoring the author's intent; this may have been more appropriate as a comment or a piece of a new answer.
Benjamin Cosman
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2016-09-11T01:46:31.887Z
I don't actually have any experience with the product I originally posted, it was just a recent product release at the time.
JWilson
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2016-09-11T03:36:38.047Z
Though I do agree that changing my answer to something completely different is uncalled for.
JWilson
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2015-01-29T19:55:41.607Z
2016-09-11T03:38:59.467Z
2016-09-11T03:38:59.467Z
JWilson
<p>I highly suggest a cardboard box. I got a 1600 size box for about $10. 
On the topic of lands and tokens, I keep 60 of each basic land (so 300 in total) with the cube at all times sleeved. my cube is from Khans/fate/dragons so tokens aren't really an issue, however I keep 10 of each token sleeved in a different color. </p>

<p>I don't recommend using the cub3 from ultra pro. Even though it can handily hold every card and land in my cube, I find it too large to travel with.</p>

<p>Hope this helps.
JLD</p>

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2016-08-05T21:30:55.127Z
Also to differentiate, land types from each other I suggest using the dividers from the gift boxes, or from the more recent prerelease packs.
jld
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2016-08-05T21:29:14.033Z
2016-08-05T21:29:14.033Z
jld
<p>Tolarian Community College did <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uciXA2tQ-Gw" rel="nofollow">a fantastic review of MTG Cube Deck Boxes</a>:</p>

<ol>
<li>Ultra Pro CUB3: 900 cards in 80 USD cardboard. Home use only. F</li>
<li>Grimoire: 75 USD plastic. Home use only. C-</li>
<li>Ultimate Guard Stack'n'Safe: 2x480 cards in 2x12.50 USD plastic. May need an elastic band.</li>
<li>Aaron Cain: 125 USD* (prices vary) custom wood. A+</li>
</ol>

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2015-11-24T09:39:11.123Z
You might want to add a little more context? Specifically, enough for a reader to have some kind of idea what they should learn, even if the page at the other end of the link goes dead.
Andrew Vandever
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2015-11-24T03:48:13.487Z
2016-09-08T19:05:29.593Z
2016-09-08T19:05:29.593Z
Mike
<p>There are two good options...</p>

<p>One is the cardboard card boxes mentioned by others.</p>

<p>The other is a two part plastic case; 500 cards is the largest I've seen; 300 card size is commonly available. Three boxes should do.</p>

<p>For comparison, the "300 card box" I've got has space for 10 decks of playing cards... in their boxes... </p>

<p>If you're going to sleeve, the cardboard boxes are the only "single box" solution; the acrylic card cases are going to need 2-4, but will hold sleeved cards just fine.</p>

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2012-07-12T05:27:21.737Z
2012-07-12T05:27:21.737Z
aramis
<p>I've created my first cube during the last week. It's been fun and I'm eager to try it out. There's just one thing... How do I store it? The goal size is about 540 cards without basic lands. I guess I need about 200 basics too. For now I'll keep all cards except the basics in sleeves permanently but I might sleeve up the lands too.</p>

<p>Have you found any better boxes than those that comes with booster packs or shoe boxes (too big)? Do you keep all basic lands sleeved?</p>

<magic-the-gathering><storage><mtg-cube>
How can I store all of the cards for my MtG Cube?
AndSoYouCode
# How can I store all of the cards for my MtG Cube?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2012-07-11)

I've created my first cube during the last week. It's been fun and I'm eager to try it out. There's just one thing... How do I store it? The goal size is about 540 cards without basic lands. I guess I need about 200 basics too. For now I'll keep all cards except the basics in sleeves permanently but I might sleeve up the lands too.

Have you found any better boxes than those that comes with booster packs or shoe boxes (too big)? Do you keep all basic lands sleeved?

**Tags:** magic-the-gathering, storage, mtg-cube


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## 6 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2012-07-11. Score: 3 | Accepted answer

The cardboard boxes that come with "fat packs" are sturdy, reasonably portable, and visually appealing. I don't think one can hold 750 sleeved cards, but two should be sufficient. Third-party online shops often resell just the boxes individually for a few dollars.

Players are going to need to sleeve up their basic lands anyway, so I see no reason not to put sleeves on them ahead of time.

If you're a perfectionist looking to make your Cube contain absolutely everything needed for play, your box could also include:

* Appropriate tokens for the cards in your cube (unsleeved or using different-color sleeves, to avoid confusion).
* A few extra sleeves to replace any that get damaged in play (not the biggest deal because you can always just steal sleeves from a few basic lands, but still handy).
* Life dice and counters (to save space and weight, small d6s are probably better than colored beads).

> **Comments:**
> **username_2**: You actually probably want to have a full pack or two of matching sleeves with the cube at any given time. With my buddy's cube, we wind up replacing anywhere from 5 to 20 sleeves a night when we sit down to cube with 6 to 8 people.  
> **username_1**: @username_2 That kinda sounds like a case of bad sleeves.  
> **username_0**: I've been using these boxes for a while now and I'm quite pleased. Our 540 cube with lands (all sleeved) fits well in 3 of these boxes. I've been using a 4th box for different kind of tokens, dices and extra sleeves.  
> **username_3**: My fat packs can hold 360 sleeved cards. Are you using penny sleeves?  
> **username_4**: This isn't really an answer, but above and beyond sleeving I'll actually suggest double-sleeves - perfect fits on the cards directly, then slotted into e.g. KMC's super mat/hyper mat series or the equivalent.  

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### Answer by username_5 on 2012-07-12. Score: 5

Probably, the best way to store a cube is in a properly sized corrugated trading card box. These boxes are [fairly cheap](http://www.bcwsupplies.com/products/corrugated-storage-boxes/trading-card-storage-boxes/), and with your local friendly game store's 100% markup, they shouldn't run you more than a couple dollars.

![Corrugated TCG Box](https://i.sstatic.net/UmD9j.jpg)

I wouldn't use booster pack boxes or shoe boxes. Booster boxes are too flimsy, because the are designed for display purposes. You might spill your cards everywhere. Shoeboxes do not have trading card dimensions (Each MtG card is approximately 63 x 88 mm in size), so it will be more difficult to keep the cards in order as you will have several stacks.

I would sleeve all your cards, including the basic lands. You will eventually need to play with the basic lands after the cube draft, so you will save everyone some time by having all the basic lands sleeved identically to the cube draft cards. As far as sizing your corrugated trading card box, that just comes down to some simple math:

(**Note:** I am using 288 microns for MtG card thickness, from [mtgsalvation thread](http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=420153). The Wikipedia page says 305 microns, but the information isn't cited either. The difference is only 0.5" for 740 cards)

```
|                |Thickness|      | Total | Total  | Total  |
|Card/Sleeve Type|(microns)|#Cards| (cm)  | (inch) |Sleeved |
+----------------+---------+------+-------+--------+--------+
|Magic Card      |     288 |  740 | 21.29 |  8.384 |  8.38" |
|Unnamed (thick) |     110 |  740 |  8.14 |  3.205 | 14.8"  | 
|Unnamed (thick) |     110 |  540 |  5.94 |  2.339 |        |
|Dragon Shield   |     100 |  740 |  7.4  |  2.913 | 14.2"  |
|Dragon Shield   |     100 |  540 |  5.4  |  2.126 |        |
|Mayday Premium  |      90 |  740 |  6.66 |  2.622 | 13.6"  |
|Mayday Premium  |      90 |  540 |  4.86 |  1.913 |        |
|"Penny" (thin)  |      40 |  740 |  2.96 |  1.165 | 10.7"  |
|"Penny" (thin)  |      40 |  540 |  2.16 |  0.850 |        |
+----------------+---------+------+-------+--------+--------+

```

If you don't sleeve the cards at all, you will need a corrugated box with 8.38 inches interior space. Depending upon [what thickness sleeves](http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/627681/mayday-games-standard-card-sleeve-equivalent) you are using, your cube will fit somewhere between 11"-15" (sleeve thickness doubled, since there are 2 sides). You can get a box that fits your cube snugly, or a slightly longer box so it is easier to remove cards. You can always use deckboxes to pad the extra space, or split the cube from the basic lands.

I did some testing with some penny sleeves I had, to verify some of the above numbers. 100 penny sleeves were about 1/2", so sleeving 740 should be about 3.75", which is quite a bit higher than the 2.33" estimate (after doubling thickness). The largest corrugated boxes sold have just over a 14" interior length, so you might have to store your basic lands in a different box than your cube.

> **Comments:**
> **username_4**: FWIW, I presume that when OP mentions 'shoe boxes' they mean the two-row card boxes of comparable dimensions; this is how I've always heard the phrase used.  

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### Answer by username_6 on 2015-01-29. Score: 2

Ultra-Pro has released [a product for cube storage](http://www.ultrapro.com/product_info.php?products_id=3115):

[![Ultra-Pro MOX CUB3](https://i.sstatic.net/yBTfp.jpg)](https://i.sstatic.net/yBTfp.jpg)

> The MOX CUB3™, designed for Cubing, features a unique 2-level storage
> design. Holds 900 standard double-sleeved gaming cards in Ultra•PRO
> PRO-Fit & Deck Protector sleeves. Compartment for dice, stones and
> other accessories. Secure magnetic closure. 8½” x 8½” x 8½” (215.9mm x
> 215.9mm x 215.9mm).

> **Comments:**
> **username_7**: I'm curious if username_6 would like to endorse or modify the recent edit? In particular, adding a negative review of the originally posted solution does not feel like honoring the author's intent; this may have been more appropriate as a comment or a piece of a new answer.  
> **username_6**: I don't actually have any experience with the product I originally posted, it was just a recent product release at the time.  
> **username_6**: Though I do agree that changing my answer to something completely different is uncalled for.  

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### Answer by username_8 on 2016-08-05. Score: 1

I highly suggest a cardboard box. I got a 1600 size box for about $10.
On the topic of lands and tokens, I keep 60 of each basic land (so 300 in total) with the cube at all times sleeved. my cube is from Khans/fate/dragons so tokens aren't really an issue, however I keep 10 of each token sleeved in a different color.

I don't recommend using the cub3 from ultra pro. Even though it can handily hold every card and land in my cube, I find it too large to travel with.

Hope this helps.
JLD

> **Comments:**
> **username_8**: Also to differentiate, land types from each other I suggest using the dividers from the gift boxes, or from the more recent prerelease packs.  

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### Answer by username_9 on 2015-11-24. Score: 1

Tolarian Community College did [a fantastic review of MTG Cube Deck Boxes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uciXA2tQ-Gw):

1. Ultra Pro CUB3: 900 cards in 80 USD cardboard. Home use only. F
2. Grimoire: 75 USD plastic. Home use only. C-
3. Ultimate Guard Stack'n'Safe: 2x480 cards in 2x12.50 USD plastic. May need an elastic band.
4. Aaron Cain: 125 USD\* (prices vary) custom wood. A+

> **Comments:**
> **username_10**: You might want to add a little more context? Specifically, enough for a reader to have some kind of idea what they should learn, even if the page at the other end of the link goes dead.  

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### Answer by username_11 on 2012-07-12. Score: 0

There are two good options...

One is the cardboard card boxes mentioned by others.

The other is a two part plastic case; 500 cards is the largest I've seen; 300 card size is commonly available. Three boxes should do.

For comparison, the "300 card box" I've got has space for 10 decks of playing cards... in their boxes...

If you're going to sleeve, the cardboard boxes are the only "single box" solution; the acrylic card cases are going to need 2-4, but will hold sleeved cards just fine.


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