<p>You will still inflict or take physical damage.</p>

<p>The rule that allows you to deal mental damage with attacking refers specifically to attacking with that trait, not defending with that trait:</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>When a card or a haunt lets you attack with Sanity or Knowledge, then you inflict mental damage. You and your opponent move down your Sanity and/or Knowledge traits. </p>
</blockquote>

<p>Also note that if the monster doesn't have a knowledge trait (which most do not), then you cannot inflict knowledge damage in the first place:</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>You can’t use a trait to attack an opponent who doesn’t have that trait. For instance, if a monster doesn’t have Sanity, you can’t make a Sanity attack against it.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>So if Chalk did allow you to deal damage as if it were mental; you wouldn't be allowed to use it against most monsters. However, Chalk simply changes the way you defend; it is still a normal might-based combat.</p>

<p>Finally, note the wording on the item Ring:</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>[...] (Your opponent then defends with Sanity, and damage is mental instead of physical.)</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Ring calls out specifically that damage is mental; while Chalk does not.</p>

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GendoIkari
<p>The Chalk item allows the explorer who has it to defend with Knowledge instead of Might.  If they successfully win the roll--that is, roll higher than their opponent--do they inflict mental or physical damage?</p>

<p>We were playing a haunt the other night with monsters that were immune to physical damage, but attacked with Might.  Would a defender with Chalk stun them or not if it won the combat roll?  (We played it as yes, but I have no idea if that was correct.)</p>

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2018-07-29T16:37:20.700Z
Not an answer, but helpful: https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1678823/defending-separate-trait-attacker
GendoIkari
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What kind of damage do you deal when successfully defending with Chalk?
Cadrac
# What kind of damage do you deal when successfully defending with Chalk?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2018-07-29)

The Chalk item allows the explorer who has it to defend with Knowledge instead of Might. If they successfully win the roll--that is, roll higher than their opponent--do they inflict mental or physical damage?

We were playing a haunt the other night with monsters that were immune to physical damage, but attacked with Might. Would a defender with Chalk stun them or not if it won the combat roll? (We played it as yes, but I have no idea if that was correct.)

**Tags:** betrayal-at-house-on-the-hill

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: Not an answer, but helpful: https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1678823/defending-separate-trait-attacker  

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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2018-07-29. Score: 3 | Accepted answer

You will still inflict or take physical damage.

The rule that allows you to deal mental damage with attacking refers specifically to attacking with that trait, not defending with that trait:

> When a card or a haunt lets you attack with Sanity or Knowledge, then you inflict mental damage. You and your opponent move down your Sanity and/or Knowledge traits.

Also note that if the monster doesn't have a knowledge trait (which most do not), then you cannot inflict knowledge damage in the first place:

> You can’t use a trait to attack an opponent who doesn’t have that trait. For instance, if a monster doesn’t have Sanity, you can’t make a Sanity attack against it.

So if Chalk did allow you to deal damage as if it were mental; you wouldn't be allowed to use it against most monsters. However, Chalk simply changes the way you defend; it is still a normal might-based combat.

Finally, note the wording on the item Ring:

> [...] (Your opponent then defends with Sanity, and damage is mental instead of physical.)

Ring calls out specifically that damage is mental; while Chalk does not.


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