<p>No, you cannot. Westvale Abbey's color identity is Black.</p>
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<p>903.4. The Commander variant uses color identity to determine what cards can be in a deck with a certain commander. The color identity of a card is the color or colors of any mana symbols in that card’s mana cost or rules text, plus any colors defined by its characteristic-defining abilities (see rule 604.3) or color indicator (see rule 204).</p>
<p>903.4c The back face of a double-faced card (see rule 711) is included when determining a card’s color identity. This is an exception to rule 711.4a.</p>
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<p>And the definition of color indicator:</p>
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<p>204.1. The color indicator is printed to the left of the type line directly below the illustration. It consists of a circular symbol filled in with one or more colors. A color indicator is usually found on nonland cards without a mana cost.</p>
<p>204.2. An object with a color indicator is each color denoted by that color indicator.</p>
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<p>Is it possible for me to use <a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?name=%2b%5bWestvale%20Abbey%5d">Westvale Abbey</a> in a Commander deck that does not use black? I am making a Blue, Green, and White commander deck, and I would like to add Westvale Abbey. Could I use it?</p>

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Can I use Westvale Abbey in a Commander deck that does not use black?
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# Can I use Westvale Abbey in a Commander deck that does not use black?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2017-03-06)

Is it possible for me to use [Westvale Abbey](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?name=%2b%5bWestvale%20Abbey%5d) in a Commander deck that does not use black? I am making a Blue, Green, and White commander deck, and I would like to add Westvale Abbey. Could I use it?

**Tags:** magic-the-gathering, mtg-commander

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: Related: http://boardgames.stackexchange.com/questions/6292/in-edh-commander-what-is-the-color-identity-of-a-double-faced-card  

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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_2 on 2017-03-06. Score: 4 | Accepted answer

No, you cannot. Westvale Abbey's color identity is Black.

> 903.4. The Commander variant uses color identity to determine what cards can be in a deck with a certain commander. The color identity of a card is the color or colors of any mana symbols in that card’s mana cost or rules text, plus any colors defined by its characteristic-defining abilities (see rule 604.3) or color indicator (see rule 204).
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> 903.4c The back face of a double-faced card (see rule 711) is included when determining a card’s color identity. This is an exception to rule 711.4a.

And the definition of color indicator:

> 204.1. The color indicator is printed to the left of the type line directly below the illustration. It consists of a circular symbol filled in with one or more colors. A color indicator is usually found on nonland cards without a mana cost.
>
> 204.2. An object with a color indicator is each color denoted by that color indicator.


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