<h2>It's an undercut.</h2>
<p>Player B wins the difference between the counts plus an undercut bonus.
From <a href="https://www.pagat.com/rummy/ginrummy.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Pagat</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>If the knocker did not go gin, and the counts are equal, or the
knocker's count is greater than that of the opponent, the knocker has
been <strong>undercut</strong>. In this case the knocker's opponent scores the
difference between the counts plus a 10 point bonus.</p>
</blockquote>
<ul>
<li>Note that in the situation described, player B does not have gin. He just has 0 deadwood.</li>
<li>In order to make a gin, a player must have 0 deadwood and to declare Gin during his turn.</li>
</ul>

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Thank you, that’s super helpful. First time playing (it’s raining in Cyprus) 
Woodie
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@Woodie - the best way to thank folks is to upvote (if you haven't) and accept the answer if you think it's helpful.
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Cohensius
<p>What happens if player A knocks and player B has gin but hadn’t realized? Do they get the points plus the bonus gin points?</p>

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Knock when opponent has 0 deadwood
Woodie
# Knock when opponent has 0 deadwood

(Asked by: username_0 on 2024-05-05)

What happens if player A knocks and player B has gin but hadn’t realized? Do they get the points plus the bonus gin points?

**Tags:** scoring, gin-rummy


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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2024-05-05. Score: 5

## It's an undercut.

Player B wins the difference between the counts plus an undercut bonus.
From [Pagat](https://www.pagat.com/rummy/ginrummy.html):

> If the knocker did not go gin, and the counts are equal, or the
> knocker's count is greater than that of the opponent, the knocker has
> been **undercut**. In this case the knocker's opponent scores the
> difference between the counts plus a 10 point bonus.

* Note that in the situation described, player B does not have gin. He just has 0 deadwood.
* In order to make a gin, a player must have 0 deadwood and to declare Gin during his turn.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: Thank you, that’s super helpful. First time playing (it’s raining in Cyprus)   
> **username_2**: @username_0 - the best way to thank folks is to upvote (if you haven't) and accept the answer if you think it's helpful.  

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