<p>3.
From the card ruling on gatherer:</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>If an effect causes Gideon to lose all abilities during your turn,
  he’s still a Human Soldier creature and a Gideon planeswalker.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>and</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>If an Equipment becomes attached to Gideon while he’s a creature,
  it’ll become unattached during the next upkeep that isn’t yours. The
  same is true of any Auras that become attached to Gideon that can’t
  enchant a noncreature planeswalker.</p>
</blockquote>

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2019-05-18T07:24:55.000Z
And if you want to know *why*, the answer is layers.  Briefly, effects that change types are applied before effects that remove abilities, and removing an ability doesn't remove a change it made lower in the layers.
Arcanist Lupus
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2019-05-16T19:06:50.713Z
2019-05-16T19:06:50.713Z
Raj
<p>If I were to attach <a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?name=%2b%5bKasmina%27s%5d%2b%5bTransmutation%5d">Kasmina&#39;s Transmutation</a> to an opponent's <a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?name=%2b%5bGideon%20Blackblade%5d">Gideon Blackblade</a> (using <a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?name=%2b%5bTeferi%27s%5d%2b%5bTime%5d%2b%5bTwist%5d">Teferi&#39;s Time Twist</a> to have it ETB on their turn, for example), what would happen?</p>
<p>Kasmina's Transmutation:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Enchant creature</p>
<p>Enchanted creature loses all abilities and has base power and toughness 1/1.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Relevant bit of Gideon's text:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>As long as it's your turn, Gideon Blackblade is a 4/4 Human Soldier creature with indestructible that's still a planeswalker.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>What happens?</p>
<ol>
<li><p>Gideon stays a vanilla 1/1 creature since he was a creature at the time</p>
</li>
<li><p>Gideon loses the ability that makes him a creature, immediately stops being a creature and drops the aura</p>
</li>
<li><p>Gideon stays a 1/1 until opponent's turn ends, then stops being a creature and drops the aura</p>
</li>
</ol>

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Kasmina's Transmutation vs. Gideon Blackblade
juurikki
# Kasmina's Transmutation vs. Gideon Blackblade

(Asked by: username_0 on 2019-05-16)

If I were to attach [Kasmina's Transmutation](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?name=%2b%5bKasmina%27s%5d%2b%5bTransmutation%5d) to an opponent's [Gideon Blackblade](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?name=%2b%5bGideon%20Blackblade%5d) (using [Teferi's Time Twist](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?name=%2b%5bTeferi%27s%5d%2b%5bTime%5d%2b%5bTwist%5d) to have it ETB on their turn, for example), what would happen?

Kasmina's Transmutation:

> Enchant creature
>
> Enchanted creature loses all abilities and has base power and toughness 1/1.

Relevant bit of Gideon's text:

> As long as it's your turn, Gideon Blackblade is a 4/4 Human Soldier creature with indestructible that's still a planeswalker.

What happens?

1. Gideon stays a vanilla 1/1 creature since he was a creature at the time
2. Gideon loses the ability that makes him a creature, immediately stops being a creature and drops the aura
3. Gideon stays a 1/1 until opponent's turn ends, then stops being a creature and drops the aura

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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2019-05-16. Score: 6 | Accepted answer

3.
From the card ruling on gatherer:

> If an effect causes Gideon to lose all abilities during your turn,
> he’s still a Human Soldier creature and a Gideon planeswalker.

and

> If an Equipment becomes attached to Gideon while he’s a creature,
> it’ll become unattached during the next upkeep that isn’t yours. The
> same is true of any Auras that become attached to Gideon that can’t
> enchant a noncreature planeswalker.

> **Comments:**
> **username_2**: And if you want to know *why*, the answer is layers.  Briefly, effects that change types are applied before effects that remove abilities, and removing an ability doesn't remove a change it made lower in the layers.  

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