<p>Not in the way you describe; both abilities require tapping the Wolfblood <em>as part of their cost</em>; you can't pay one cost to pay for both abilities.</p>
<p>Think of it this way: if a fries and a soda each cost $1 (and you only have $1), you can get one or the other, but not both.</p>
<p>Abilities in Magic the Gathering are written as {cost}:{effect}.</p>
<p>Selesnya Evangel's ability says:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>1, T, Tap an untapped creature you control: Create a 1/1 green Saproling creature token.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Paying for this ability requires 1 mana, tapping the Evangel, <em>and tapping another untapped creature you control</em>.</p>
<p>Tolsimir Wolfblood's ability says:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>T: Put a legendary 2/2 green and white Wolf creature token named Voja into play.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Paying for this ability only requires tapping Tolsimir.</p>
<p>You <em>could</em>, however, change the order and do the following:</p>
<ol>
<li>Activate Tolsimir's ability to create the wolf token</li>
<li>Then activate Selesnya Evangel, <em>tapping the newly created wolf token</em>, to creature a Saproling.</li>
</ol>
<p>Note that there are abilities that work more like your original idea, but they're worded much differently. For example, check out <a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Emmara%2C%20Soul%20of%20the%20Accord">Emmara, Soul of the Accord</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Whenever Emmara, Soul of the Accord becomes tapped, create a 1/1 white Soldier creature token with lifelink.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Emmara has a <em>triggered ability</em> that creates a token whenever it becomes tapped, for any reason (when she attacks, or tapping her for the Evangel's ability, or if it got tapped down by an opponent's <a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Benalish%20Trapper">Benalish Trapper</a>).</p>

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2023-11-03T14:59:33.290Z
I see, so is it possible to tap permanents during the turn they are played if its not to attack or it works just because the permanent is a token created from an ability instead that from the deck? Sorry for the confusion, it's been quite a while and I'm trying to re-learn.
IStoleTheMuffin
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2023-11-03T15:08:54.880Z
@IStoleTheMuffin you will want to read https://boardgames.stackexchange.com/questions/25234/what-is-summoning-sickness-and-how-does-it-affect-my-creatures
Philip Kendall
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2023-11-03T15:08:58.923Z
No problem, and you've hit on a key point: you can't tap a creature *for its own ability* on the turn it comes into play (unless it has haste), but the Evangel's "Tap an untapped creature you control" cost doesn't have that restriction, so you can tap the newly-created wolf token to help pay for this ability.
BradC
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2023-11-03T16:59:40.117Z
Not exactly true. It's the tap symbol. Abilities like [mtg:Heritage Druid] can tap themselves the turn they come in.
JonTheMon
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2023-11-03T14:19:34.353Z
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BradC
<p>If I have in play a <a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Selesnya%20Evangel">Selesnya Evangel</a> and tap <a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Tolsimir%20Wolfblood">Tolsimir Wolfblood</a> to create a Saproling, can I create the 2/2 green/white Voja too? Thank you.</p>

<magic-the-gathering>
Can tapping for another card, also activate that card ability?
IStoleTheMuffin
# Can tapping for another card, also activate that card ability?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2023-11-03)

If I have in play a [Selesnya Evangel](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Selesnya%20Evangel) and tap [Tolsimir Wolfblood](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Tolsimir%20Wolfblood) to create a Saproling, can I create the 2/2 green/white Voja too? Thank you.

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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2023-11-03. Score: 3 | Accepted answer

Not in the way you describe; both abilities require tapping the Wolfblood *as part of their cost*; you can't pay one cost to pay for both abilities.

Think of it this way: if a fries and a soda each cost $1 (and you only have $1), you can get one or the other, but not both.

Abilities in Magic the Gathering are written as {cost}:{effect}.

Selesnya Evangel's ability says:

> 1, T, Tap an untapped creature you control: Create a 1/1 green Saproling creature token.

Paying for this ability requires 1 mana, tapping the Evangel, *and tapping another untapped creature you control*.

Tolsimir Wolfblood's ability says:

> T: Put a legendary 2/2 green and white Wolf creature token named Voja into play.

Paying for this ability only requires tapping Tolsimir.

You *could*, however, change the order and do the following:

1. Activate Tolsimir's ability to create the wolf token
2. Then activate Selesnya Evangel, *tapping the newly created wolf token*, to creature a Saproling.

Note that there are abilities that work more like your original idea, but they're worded much differently. For example, check out [Emmara, Soul of the Accord](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Emmara%2C%20Soul%20of%20the%20Accord):

> Whenever Emmara, Soul of the Accord becomes tapped, create a 1/1 white Soldier creature token with lifelink.

Emmara has a *triggered ability* that creates a token whenever it becomes tapped, for any reason (when she attacks, or tapping her for the Evangel's ability, or if it got tapped down by an opponent's [Benalish Trapper](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Benalish%20Trapper)).

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: I see, so is it possible to tap permanents during the turn they are played if its not to attack or it works just because the permanent is a token created from an ability instead that from the deck? Sorry for the confusion, it's been quite a while and I'm trying to re-learn.  
> **username_2**: @username_0 you will want to read https://boardgames.stackexchange.com/questions/25234/what-is-summoning-sickness-and-how-does-it-affect-my-creatures  
> **username_1**: No problem, and you've hit on a key point: you can't tap a creature *for its own ability* on the turn it comes into play (unless it has haste), but the Evangel's "Tap an untapped creature you control" cost doesn't have that restriction, so you can tap the newly-created wolf token to help pay for this ability.  
> **username_3**: Not exactly true. It's the tap symbol. Abilities like [mtg:Heritage Druid] can tap themselves the turn they come in.  

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