<p>The total cost to cast a spell<br>
= mana cost or alternative cost<br>
+ additional costs and cost increases<br>
- cost reductions</p>
<p>For creature spells of the chosen type,</p>
<ul>
<li><a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Jodah%2C%20Archmage%20Eternal">Jodah, Archmage Eternal</a>'s ability provides an alternative cost of {W}{U}{B}{R}{G}.</li>
<li><a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Morophon%2C%20the%20Boundless">Morophon, the Boundless</a>'s ability provides a cost reduction of {W}{U}{B}{R}{G}.</li>
</ul>
<p>So,</p>
<p>The total cost to cast the spell<br>
= mana cost or alternative cost ({W}{U}{B}{R}{G})<br>
+ additional costs (none) and cost increases (none)<br>
- cost reductions ({W}{U}{B}{R}{G})<br>
= Free</p>

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ikegami
<p>Yes, that's correct. If the spell has the creature type you chose for Morophon, you can cast it for {0}—it will be free.</p>
<p>To determine the total cost of a spell we follow <a href="https://yawgatog.com/resources/magic-rules/#R6012f" rel="noreferrer">rule 601.2f</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>601.2f. The player determines the total cost of the spell. [...] The total cost is the mana cost or alternative cost (as determined in rule 601.2b), plus all additional costs and cost increases, and minus all cost reductions. [...] If the mana component of the total cost is reduced to nothing by cost reduction effects, it is considered to be {0}.</p>
</blockquote>
<p><a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Jodah%2C%20Archmage%20Eternal">Jodah, Archmage Eternal</a> provides an alternative cost for the spell of {W}{U}{B}{R}{G}.</p>
<p><a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Morophon%2C%20the%20Boundless">Morophon, the Boundless</a> provides a cost reduction of (again) {W}{U}{B}{R}{G}.</p>
<p>We choose to use Jodah's alternative cost, and we subtract Morophon's cost reduction from it. The total cost is reduced to nothing, making the spell cost {0}.</p>
<p>So you get a free spell! Congratulations!</p>

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2021-12-08T21:37:45.353Z
And Blades of Velis Vel will be free no matter what creature type is chosen.
Acccumulation
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doppelgreener
<p><a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Jodah%2C%20Archmage%20Eternal">Jodah, Archmage Eternal</a>'s ability says that I may pay one of each color rather than pay a spell's original mana cost</p>
<p><a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Morophon%2C%20the%20Boundless">Morophon, the Boundless</a> lets me choose a creature type and spells of that chosen type cost one of each color less to cast.</p>
<p>Simply, if I choose Wizards with Morophon, and I choose to pay one of each color to cast a Wizard spell with Jodah, will that creature cost 0??</p>

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2021-12-09T21:01:36.303Z
Fist of Suns also does this
TheDragonOfFlame
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Can Jodah, Archmage Eternal and Morophon, the Boundless make a card cost 0?
BeanDragon
# Can Jodah, Archmage Eternal and Morophon, the Boundless make a card cost 0?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2021-12-08)

[Jodah, Archmage Eternal](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Jodah%2C%20Archmage%20Eternal)'s ability says that I may pay one of each color rather than pay a spell's original mana cost

[Morophon, the Boundless](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Morophon%2C%20the%20Boundless) lets me choose a creature type and spells of that chosen type cost one of each color less to cast.

Simply, if I choose Wizards with Morophon, and I choose to pay one of each color to cast a Wizard spell with Jodah, will that creature cost 0??

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> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: Fist of Suns also does this  

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_3 on 2021-12-08. Score: 6 | Accepted answer

Yes, that's correct. If the spell has the creature type you chose for Morophon, you can cast it for {0}—it will be free.

To determine the total cost of a spell we follow [rule 601.2f](https://yawgatog.com/resources/magic-rules/#R6012f):

> 601.2f. The player determines the total cost of the spell. [...] The total cost is the mana cost or alternative cost (as determined in rule 601.2b), plus all additional costs and cost increases, and minus all cost reductions. [...] If the mana component of the total cost is reduced to nothing by cost reduction effects, it is considered to be {0}.

[Jodah, Archmage Eternal](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Jodah%2C%20Archmage%20Eternal) provides an alternative cost for the spell of {W}{U}{B}{R}{G}.

[Morophon, the Boundless](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Morophon%2C%20the%20Boundless) provides a cost reduction of (again) {W}{U}{B}{R}{G}.

We choose to use Jodah's alternative cost, and we subtract Morophon's cost reduction from it. The total cost is reduced to nothing, making the spell cost {0}.

So you get a free spell! Congratulations!

> **Comments:**
> **username_4**: And Blades of Velis Vel will be free no matter what creature type is chosen.  

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### Answer by username_2 on 2021-12-09. Score: 2

The total cost to cast a spell  
= mana cost or alternative cost  
+ additional costs and cost increases  
- cost reductions

For creature spells of the chosen type,

* [Jodah, Archmage Eternal](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Jodah%2C%20Archmage%20Eternal)'s ability provides an alternative cost of {W}{U}{B}{R}{G}.
* [Morophon, the Boundless](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Morophon%2C%20the%20Boundless)'s ability provides a cost reduction of {W}{U}{B}{R}{G}.

So,

The total cost to cast the spell  
= mana cost or alternative cost ({W}{U}{B}{R}{G})  
+ additional costs (none) and cost increases (none)  
- cost reductions ({W}{U}{B}{R}{G})  
= Free


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