<p>I've never played this game but reading rules <a href="https://tesera.ru/images/items/784463/Rummikub_Rules.pdf" rel="nofollow noreferrer">here</a> it seems clear enough.  The rules say (emphasis mine)</p>
<blockquote>
<p>In order to place tiles on the table, each player must make an initial
play of at least 30 points in one or more sets.</p>
<p>These points <strong>must</strong> come from the tiles on the player's rack and <strong>not</strong>
from tiles already played on the table. A tile is worth its face
value. A Joker may be used for any tile and its point value is that of
the tile it represents. The penalty for holding a Joker if another
player wins the round is 30 points. If a player cannot enter the
round, or purposely chooses not to, the player must take a tile from
the pouch and the turn ends.</p>
<p><strong>After</strong> players have made their initial plays, they can also build on
other sets on the table with tiles from their racks.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>so 1) No you are not allowed to play other tiles the same turn.  The rules are clear that you <strong>must</strong> use your own tiles and <strong>not</strong> other players.  It isn't until <strong>after</strong> all players have made an initial meld or passed you may start building off other players.</p>
<p>The rules for jokers state</p>
<blockquote>
<p>A joker can be retrieved from a set on the table by a player who can replace it during his turn with a tile of the same numerical value and color it represents. The tile used to replace the Joker must come from a <em>player's rack and not from the table</em>.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>So you can't reuse the joker since the 10 Blue was not in your hand.</p>

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<p>The following tiles are on the table (these were the initial meld from another player):</p>
<p>10 BLUE, 11 BLUE, 12 BLUE</p>
<p>And I, having not yet made an initial meld, have the following tiles on my board:</p>
<p>7 BLUE, 8 BLUE, 9 BLUE, JOKER, 13 BLUE</p>
<p>I use the first four tiles to make my initial meld.</p>
<p>Questions:</p>
<ol>
<li>Am I allowed to play other tiles in the same round that I played my initial meld?</li>
<li>Am I allowed to add my 13 BLUE to the other player's run, take the 10 BLUE to replace the JOKER in my initial meld, and re-use that JOKER, all in the same round?</li>
</ol>

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Rummikub: Initial meld with a joker
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# Rummikub: Initial meld with a joker

(Asked by: username_0 on 2020-09-16)

The following tiles are on the table (these were the initial meld from another player):

10 BLUE, 11 BLUE, 12 BLUE

And I, having not yet made an initial meld, have the following tiles on my board:

7 BLUE, 8 BLUE, 9 BLUE, JOKER, 13 BLUE

I use the first four tiles to make my initial meld.

Questions:

1. Am I allowed to play other tiles in the same round that I played my initial meld?
2. Am I allowed to add my 13 BLUE to the other player's run, take the 10 BLUE to replace the JOKER in my initial meld, and re-use that JOKER, all in the same round?

**Tags:** rummikub, joker


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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2020-09-16. Score: 2

I've never played this game but reading rules [here](https://tesera.ru/images/items/784463/Rummikub_Rules.pdf) it seems clear enough. The rules say (emphasis mine)

> In order to place tiles on the table, each player must make an initial
> play of at least 30 points in one or more sets.
>
> These points **must** come from the tiles on the player's rack and **not**
> from tiles already played on the table. A tile is worth its face
> value. A Joker may be used for any tile and its point value is that of
> the tile it represents. The penalty for holding a Joker if another
> player wins the round is 30 points. If a player cannot enter the
> round, or purposely chooses not to, the player must take a tile from
> the pouch and the turn ends.
>
> **After** players have made their initial plays, they can also build on
> other sets on the table with tiles from their racks.

so 1) No you are not allowed to play other tiles the same turn. The rules are clear that you **must** use your own tiles and **not** other players. It isn't until **after** all players have made an initial meld or passed you may start building off other players.

The rules for jokers state

> A joker can be retrieved from a set on the table by a player who can replace it during his turn with a tile of the same numerical value and color it represents. The tile used to replace the Joker must come from a *player's rack and not from the table*.

So you can't reuse the joker since the 10 Blue was not in your hand.


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