<p>To add to the other answers, copying a permanent does not copy whether or not the target is a token or a card.  Clone, as a card, will always be a card even if it is copying a token.  An effect that produces token copies will always produce tokens even if they are copying cards.</p>

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Arcanist Lupus
<p>You will only get 1 copy of that creature, and that copy will still be represented by the Clone card that you have.</p>
<p>Copies and Tokens have nothing to do with each other.</p>
<p>A token is a non-card object that is a permanent on the battlefield. It acts like a card most ways, but has a few differences, mostly dealing with what happens when they change zones.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>108.2b Tokens aren’t considered cards—even a card-sized game supplement that represents a token isn’t considered a card for rules purposes.</p>
<p>110.5. Some effects put tokens onto the battlefield. A token is a marker used to represent any permanent that isn’t represented by a card.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Copying an object deals with what attributes the object has. Clone is a card that happens to be able to change its attributes to match those of another creature.</p>

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GendoIkari
<p>You misinterpret 706.1 (emphasis mine):</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>706.1.: Some objects <strong><em>become</em></strong> or <strong><em>turn another object into</em></strong> a “copy” of a spell, permanent, or card. Some effects <strong><em>create</em></strong> a token that’s a copy
  of another object.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>The wording insists on how a copy is done: by transforming an existing object, or by creating a new object.</p>

<p>Now two examples of this difference:</p>

<ul>
<li>A <a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?name=%2b%5bClone%5d">Clone</a> <strong>becomes</strong> the copy of another creature: that's a
transformation of an existing object, nothing is created.</li>
<li>A <a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?name=%2b%5bCackling%20Counterpart%5d">Cackling Counterpart</a> <strong>creates</strong> a new object (a creature in this case). You use a token to represent that new object.</li>
</ul>

<p>Be also aware that <a href="https://scryfall.com/search?q=t%3Atoken" rel="nofollow noreferrer">a token, even if represented by a card</a> on the battlefield, is a token and never a card. To make that clear, the wording of cards like <a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?name=%2b%5bForbidden%20Ritual%5d">Forbidden Ritual</a> was changed. Playing with a token you make with pen and paper or a token card is always equivalent.</p>

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<p>Clone has no interaction here with Anointed Procession. Clone does not make tokens, and it is not a token.</p>

<p>Tokens are defined in <a href="https://mtg.gamepedia.com/Permanents" rel="noreferrer">rule 110.5</a>:</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Some effects put tokens onto the battlefield. A token is a marker used to represent any permanent that isn’t represented by a card.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>In your situation, Clone is a card, not a token.</p>

<p>In addition, the full text of the rule you mentioned, <a href="https://mtg.gamepedia.com/Copying_objects" rel="noreferrer">rule 706.1</a> is</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Some objects become or turn another object into a “copy” of a spell, permanent, or card. Some effects create a token that’s a copy of another object. [...]</p>
</blockquote>

<p>This is describing two different kinds of effects. Clone is the first kind of effect: it becomes a copy of a permanent. Some other effects will explicitly say that the create tokens, or they will create tokens with some specific keyword abilities or actions like Populate or Fabricate.</p>

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[Pack Rat](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=253624)'s activated ability is an example of the other kind of effect (one that does create a token and would be affected by Anointed Procession).
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<p>My question relates to 706. Copying Objects, more specifically 706.1 which states:</p>

<blockquote>
  <p><strong>706.1.</strong>: Some objects become or turn another object into a “copy” of a spell, permanent, or card. Some effects create a token that’s a copy of another object.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Does this mean that a "copy" is not a "token"?</p>

<p>The scenario was that I had an <a href="http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=426704" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Anointed Procession</a> which states:</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>If an effect would create one or more tokens under your control, it creates twice that many of those tokens instead.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Then I cast <a href="http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=370622" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Clone</a> which states:</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>You may have Clone enter the battlefield as a copy of any creature on the battlefield.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>So my question is simply, would I only get one copy of that creature? Or 2 because it is a "token"?</p>

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Cards are never tokens, and tokens are never cards. (Keep in mind that even if you represent a token with something a lay person would call a card, it's still not a considered a card by the game.)
ikegami
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Even if you copy a card and Wizards never prints tokens for them (like Pack Rat, for example) it's still a token..
corsiKa
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Look at the period in 706.1. That period separates the idea of an object becoming a copy and a token being created as a copy.
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# Are cloned cards considered as "tokens"?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2017-10-26)

My question relates to 706. Copying Objects, more specifically 706.1 which states:

> **706.1.**: Some objects become or turn another object into a “copy” of a spell, permanent, or card. Some effects create a token that’s a copy of another object.

Does this mean that a "copy" is not a "token"?

The scenario was that I had an [Anointed Procession](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=426704) which states:

> If an effect would create one or more tokens under your control, it creates twice that many of those tokens instead.

Then I cast [Clone](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=370622) which states:

> You may have Clone enter the battlefield as a copy of any creature on the battlefield.

So my question is simply, would I only get one copy of that creature? Or 2 because it is a "token"?

**Tags:** magic-the-gathering

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: Cards are never tokens, and tokens are never cards. (Keep in mind that even if you represent a token with something a lay person would call a card, it's still not a considered a card by the game.)  
> **username_2**: Even if you copy a card and Wizards never prints tokens for them (like Pack Rat, for example) it's still a token..  
> **username_3**: Look at the period in 706.1. That period separates the idea of an object becoming a copy and a token being created as a copy.  

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## 4 answers

### Answer by username_7 on 2017-10-26. Score: 13 | Accepted answer

Clone has no interaction here with Anointed Procession. Clone does not make tokens, and it is not a token.

Tokens are defined in [rule 110.5](https://mtg.gamepedia.com/Permanents):

> Some effects put tokens onto the battlefield. A token is a marker used to represent any permanent that isn’t represented by a card.

In your situation, Clone is a card, not a token.

In addition, the full text of the rule you mentioned, [rule 706.1](https://mtg.gamepedia.com/Copying_objects) is

> Some objects become or turn another object into a “copy” of a spell, permanent, or card. Some effects create a token that’s a copy of another object. [...]

This is describing two different kinds of effects. Clone is the first kind of effect: it becomes a copy of a permanent. Some other effects will explicitly say that the create tokens, or they will create tokens with some specific keyword abilities or actions like Populate or Fabricate.

> **Comments:**
> **username_8**: [Pack Rat](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=253624)'s activated ability is an example of the other kind of effect (one that does create a token and would be affected by Anointed Procession).  

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### Answer by username_4 on 2017-10-27. Score: 4

To add to the other answers, copying a permanent does not copy whether or not the target is a token or a card. Clone, as a card, will always be a card even if it is copying a token. An effect that produces token copies will always produce tokens even if they are copying cards.


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### Answer by username_5 on 2017-10-26. Score: 3

You will only get 1 copy of that creature, and that copy will still be represented by the Clone card that you have.

Copies and Tokens have nothing to do with each other.

A token is a non-card object that is a permanent on the battlefield. It acts like a card most ways, but has a few differences, mostly dealing with what happens when they change zones.

> 108.2b Tokens aren’t considered cards—even a card-sized game supplement that represents a token isn’t considered a card for rules purposes.
>
> 110.5. Some effects put tokens onto the battlefield. A token is a marker used to represent any permanent that isn’t represented by a card.

Copying an object deals with what attributes the object has. Clone is a card that happens to be able to change its attributes to match those of another creature.


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### Answer by username_6 on 2017-10-27. Score: 2

You misinterpret 706.1 (emphasis mine):

> 706.1.: Some objects ***become*** or ***turn another object into*** a “copy” of a spell, permanent, or card. Some effects ***create*** a token that’s a copy
> of another object.

The wording insists on how a copy is done: by transforming an existing object, or by creating a new object.

Now two examples of this difference:

* A [Clone](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?name=%2b%5bClone%5d) **becomes** the copy of another creature: that's a
  transformation of an existing object, nothing is created.
* A [Cackling Counterpart](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?name=%2b%5bCackling%20Counterpart%5d) **creates** a new object (a creature in this case). You use a token to represent that new object.

Be also aware that [a token, even if represented by a card](https://scryfall.com/search?q=t%3Atoken) on the battlefield, is a token and never a card. To make that clear, the wording of cards like [Forbidden Ritual](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?name=%2b%5bForbidden%20Ritual%5d) was changed. Playing with a token you make with pen and paper or a token card is always equivalent.


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