<p>Yes.</p>
<p><a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Living%20End">Living End</a> has a mana cost of &quot;unpayable&quot;.</p>
<p><a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Dream%20Halls">Dream Halls</a> introduces an alternative cost of &quot;discard a card that shares a color with the spell&quot;.</p>
<p>total cost<br>
= (mana cost or alternative cost) + (additional costs and cost increases) - cost reductions<br>
= discard a card that shares a color with the spell</p>
<blockquote>
<p>117.6. Some mana costs contain no mana symbols. This represents an <em>unpayable cost</em>. [...]</p>
</blockquote>
<blockquote>
<p>117.6a [...] If an alternative cost is applied to an unpayable cost, including an effect that allows a player to cast a spell without paying its mana cost, the alternative cost may be paid.</p>
</blockquote>
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<p>Just in case there's any doubt, Living End is black.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>204.2. An object with a color indicator is each color denoted by that color indicator.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>(It had a characteristic-defining ability when it was printed, but it now has a color indicator. Characteristic-defining abilities work in all zones, so the answer would have been the same before the change.)</p>

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2014-02-18T10:48:46.000Z
What is the colour indicator? The black frame?
doppelgreener
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2014-02-18T12:17:54.877Z
@JonathanHobbs, A dot next to the types. Compare http://magiccards.info/fut/en/78.html and http://magiccards.info/mma/en/97.html
ikegami
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ikegami
<p>I think the title is self-explaining :)</p>

<p>Can I cast cost-less cards like <a href="http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=113521" rel="nofollow">Living End</a> with <a href="http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=5105" rel="nofollow">Dream Halls</a> by discarding a black card ?</p>

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Can I cast cost-less cards like Living End with Dream Halls?
Autar
# Can I cast cost-less cards like Living End with Dream Halls?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2014-02-17)

I think the title is self-explaining :)

Can I cast cost-less cards like [Living End](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=113521) with [Dream Halls](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=5105) by discarding a black card ?

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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2014-02-17. Score: 8 | Accepted answer

Yes.

[Living End](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Living%20End) has a mana cost of "unpayable".

[Dream Halls](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Dream%20Halls) introduces an alternative cost of "discard a card that shares a color with the spell".

total cost  
= (mana cost or alternative cost) + (additional costs and cost increases) - cost reductions  
= discard a card that shares a color with the spell

> 117.6. Some mana costs contain no mana symbols. This represents an *unpayable cost*. [...]

> 117.6a [...] If an alternative cost is applied to an unpayable cost, including an effect that allows a player to cast a spell without paying its mana cost, the alternative cost may be paid.

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Just in case there's any doubt, Living End is black.

> 204.2. An object with a color indicator is each color denoted by that color indicator.

(It had a characteristic-defining ability when it was printed, but it now has a color indicator. Characteristic-defining abilities work in all zones, so the answer would have been the same before the change.)

> **Comments:**
> **username_2**: What is the colour indicator? The black frame?  
> **username_1**: @JonathanHobbs, A dot next to the types. Compare http://magiccards.info/fut/en/78.html and http://magiccards.info/mma/en/97.html  

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