<p>From <a href="http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/157b#5">this official article on double-faced card rules</a>:</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>If an effect copies a double-faced card, it copies the characteristics
  of whichever face is currently showing. It doesn't copy any
  characteristics of the other face.</p>
  
  <p>The only objects that can transform are cards that physically have two
  faces. If a token or a card with a regular Magic back is instructed to
  transform, instead nothing will happen. Even if a token or
  non-double-faced card is a copy of one face of a double-faced card, it
  can't transform.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>If your opponent used his Cackling Counterpart to copy a Soul Seizer, he'd
better hope he had a good use for a plain old 1/3 Flyer, because that's all
he was going to get!</p>

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2012-03-18T17:48:24.260Z
As to the Comprehensive rules, it's 706.8 (which is really just a specific case of 711.3): "When copying a double-faced permanent, only the copiable values of the face that‘s currently up are copied."
Circeus
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2012-03-18T14:56:56.557Z
2012-03-18T14:56:56.557Z
thesunneversets
<p>In a recent sealed queue I entered, my opponent had a <a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Soul%20Seizer">Soul Seizer</a> on the board, and a <a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Cackling%20Counterpart">Cackling Counterpart</a> in his hand. Soul Seizer has the following ability:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>When Soul Seizer deals combat damage to a player, you may transform it. If you do, attach it to target creature that player controls.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>What would happen if my opponent targeted the Soul Seizer with his Cackling Counterpart, and then damaged me with the token?</p>

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Copying Soul Seizer
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# Copying Soul Seizer

(Asked by: username_0 on 2012-03-18)

In a recent sealed queue I entered, my opponent had a [Soul Seizer](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Soul%20Seizer) on the board, and a [Cackling Counterpart](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Cackling%20Counterpart) in his hand. Soul Seizer has the following ability:

> When Soul Seizer deals combat damage to a player, you may transform it. If you do, attach it to target creature that player controls.

What would happen if my opponent targeted the Soul Seizer with his Cackling Counterpart, and then damaged me with the token?

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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2012-03-18. Score: 6

From [this official article on double-faced card rules](http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/157b#5):

> If an effect copies a double-faced card, it copies the characteristics
> of whichever face is currently showing. It doesn't copy any
> characteristics of the other face.
>
> The only objects that can transform are cards that physically have two
> faces. If a token or a card with a regular Magic back is instructed to
> transform, instead nothing will happen. Even if a token or
> non-double-faced card is a copy of one face of a double-faced card, it
> can't transform.

If your opponent used his Cackling Counterpart to copy a Soul Seizer, he'd
better hope he had a good use for a plain old 1/3 Flyer, because that's all
he was going to get!

> **Comments:**
> **username_2**: As to the Comprehensive rules, it's 706.8 (which is really just a specific case of 711.3): "When copying a double-faced permanent, only the copiable values of the face that‘s currently up are copied."  

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