<p>tl:dr-  No, I don't think they should take another bonus tile.</p>

<p>Firstly I'm going to assume that by 'castle' you mean 'city'.  The castle in Bazzars refer to a specific token which the builder can not be placed on and your example seems to mean the player extended a city with a builder to.</p>

<p>I think a key word in the rules is 'immediately' in Traders and Builders.  Using the rules reference <a href="https://images-cdn.zmangames.com/us-east-1/filer_public/02/35/0235bb6b-8ed0-4bea-aa5c-a07d7de563b3/zm7812_carcassonne_exp2_rules.pdf" rel="nofollow noreferrer">here</a> it says as follows:- </p>

<blockquote>
  <p>If you place a Land tile that continues the road or city your builder occupies,
  you may immediately draw and place another Land tile. You place this tile
  following all the normal rules</p>
</blockquote>

<p>then later it says :-</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>You may place a meeple on both the first and second tile.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>The rules for the Bazaars taken from <a href="https://www.redmeeple.com/site/images/Rules/carcassonne_bridges_castles_bazaars_Rules(EN).pdf" rel="nofollow noreferrer">here</a></p>

<blockquote>
  <p>The placement of a bazaar triggers a bid for Land tiles.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Now in luie of anything better to go on I'm would do the rules saying 'immediately' before trigger.</p>

<p>The final semantic note to is that the Bazaar rules refer the whole process of auctioning and placing tiles as the 'Bazaar round'  it does not use the term 'turn'.  Turn is used in the Builder rules.  Both rules are very strict that no chain reactions can occur to trigger multiple auctions or builder actions in the same turn.</p>

<p>So my interpretation of your example would be as follows:- 
1) Player A starts turn and draws tile with bazaar and adds it to city/road they have with a builder.
2) Player A then optionally takes another tile and optionally adds meeples (or other pieces depending on expansion to those tiles.
3) The game is the interrupted for an Bazaar round.
4) Player A add that tile to extend city/road with builder.  However as they are not allowed chain reactions they do not get another tile this turn but may still optionally add a meeple/other token to tile just placed.
5) Player A's turn ends.</p>

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So if I understand you correctly, step 2 is a result of the first tile being added to the city. Step 4 is the result of the bazaar not allowing chain reactions?
BobMorane
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Chain reaction not being allowed are specified in both rules.  You can not indefinitely add to builder for extra tiles.  You can not indefinitely have auctions for tiles.  my argument is that as the bazaar triggers a 'round' during a 'turn' that the player wouldn't be able to keep adding to there builder for extra tiles.
StartPlayer
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<p>Here is a scenario that happened to my friend and I last night: we were playing Carcassonne with extensions 2 (builder &amp; cie) and 8 (bazaar &amp; cie). My friend was adding tiles to a castle he owned. His builder was in his castle as well. At some point, he picked a tile (let's call it tile A) which had a bazaar on it and he added it to his castle. Then we made the bid with two tiles and he was left with a tile (tile B) which he added to its castle with a builder.</p>

<p>The rule state that for tile A, one must wait <em>after</em> the bid related tiles have been placed to pick the builder bonus tile. However, the rules state nothing for tile B.</p>

<p>Should my friend have picked yet another builder bonus tile for tile B?</p>

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What is "& cie"? Googling gives me "and company" or "& Co", neither of which makes sense in a board game context.
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# Carcassonne builder and bazaars

(Asked by: username_0 on 2018-04-29)

Here is a scenario that happened to my friend and I last night: we were playing Carcassonne with extensions 2 (builder & cie) and 8 (bazaar & cie). My friend was adding tiles to a castle he owned. His builder was in his castle as well. At some point, he picked a tile (let's call it tile A) which had a bazaar on it and he added it to his castle. Then we made the bid with two tiles and he was left with a tile (tile B) which he added to its castle with a builder.

The rule state that for tile A, one must wait *after* the bid related tiles have been placed to pick the builder bonus tile. However, the rules state nothing for tile B.

Should my friend have picked yet another builder bonus tile for tile B?

**Tags:** carcassonne

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: What is "& cie"? Googling gives me "and company" or "& Co", neither of which makes sense in a board game context.  

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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_2 on 2018-04-30. Score: 2 | Accepted answer

tl:dr- No, I don't think they should take another bonus tile.

Firstly I'm going to assume that by 'castle' you mean 'city'. The castle in Bazzars refer to a specific token which the builder can not be placed on and your example seems to mean the player extended a city with a builder to.

I think a key word in the rules is 'immediately' in Traders and Builders. Using the rules reference [here](https://images-cdn.zmangames.com/us-east-1/filer_public/02/35/0235bb6b-8ed0-4bea-aa5c-a07d7de563b3/zm7812_carcassonne_exp2_rules.pdf) it says as follows:-

> If you place a Land tile that continues the road or city your builder occupies,
> you may immediately draw and place another Land tile. You place this tile
> following all the normal rules

then later it says :-

> You may place a meeple on both the first and second tile.

The rules for the Bazaars taken from [here](https://www.redmeeple.com/site/images/Rules/carcassonne_bridges_castles_bazaars_Rules(EN).pdf)

> The placement of a bazaar triggers a bid for Land tiles.

Now in luie of anything better to go on I'm would do the rules saying 'immediately' before trigger.

The final semantic note to is that the Bazaar rules refer the whole process of auctioning and placing tiles as the 'Bazaar round' it does not use the term 'turn'. Turn is used in the Builder rules. Both rules are very strict that no chain reactions can occur to trigger multiple auctions or builder actions in the same turn.

So my interpretation of your example would be as follows:-
1) Player A starts turn and draws tile with bazaar and adds it to city/road they have with a builder.
2) Player A then optionally takes another tile and optionally adds meeples (or other pieces depending on expansion to those tiles.
3) The game is the interrupted for an Bazaar round.
4) Player A add that tile to extend city/road with builder. However as they are not allowed chain reactions they do not get another tile this turn but may still optionally add a meeple/other token to tile just placed.
5) Player A's turn ends.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: So if I understand you correctly, step 2 is a result of the first tile being added to the city. Step 4 is the result of the bazaar not allowing chain reactions?  
> **username_2**: Chain reaction not being allowed are specified in both rules.  You can not indefinitely add to builder for extra tiles.  You can not indefinitely have auctions for tiles.  my argument is that as the bazaar triggers a 'round' during a 'turn' that the player wouldn't be able to keep adding to there builder for extra tiles.  

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