<p>Non-creature permanents can have +1/+1 counters on them, they just don't do anything until the permanent becomes a creature. Say you have a man land. If you animate it, then add +1/+1 counters to it, they stay on it even when it stops being a creature.</p>
<p>Also, cards like <a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Earthen%20Arms">Earthen Arms</a> can put counters on any permanent. Its gatherer says:</p>
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<p>Any permanent can have a +1/+1 counter put on it. Those counters won’t have any effect unless that permanent is or becomes a creature.</p>
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2016-02-05T21:47:36.667Z
2016-02-05T21:47:36.667Z
JonTheMon
<p>A +1/+1 Counter exist on the commander. It doesn't count as a loyalty counter, it doesn't increase the loyalty.</p>

<p>If by some facet the commander is turned into a creature, the +1/+1 counter would change its power and toughness.</p>

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2016-02-05T21:48:42.140Z
2016-02-05T21:48:42.140Z
Drunk Cynic
<p>Some commander decks have Planeswalker commanders.  What happens when you put a +1/+1 counter on one of them, such as with <a href="http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=opal%20palace" rel="nofollow">Opal Palace</a>?</p>

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2016-02-06T01:10:53.517Z
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What happens when you put a +1/+1 counter on a planeswalker?
Elliot A.
# What happens when you put a +1/+1 counter on a planeswalker?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2016-02-05)

Some commander decks have Planeswalker commanders. What happens when you put a +1/+1 counter on one of them, such as with [Opal Palace](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=opal%20palace)?

**Tags:** magic-the-gathering, mtg-commander

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: Know what happens to a toad when it's struck by lightning?  

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_2 on 2016-02-05. Score: 1 | Accepted answer

Non-creature permanents can have +1/+1 counters on them, they just don't do anything until the permanent becomes a creature. Say you have a man land. If you animate it, then add +1/+1 counters to it, they stay on it even when it stops being a creature.

Also, cards like [Earthen Arms](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Earthen%20Arms) can put counters on any permanent. Its gatherer says:

> Any permanent can have a +1/+1 counter put on it. Those counters won’t have any effect unless that permanent is or becomes a creature.


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### Answer by username_3 on 2016-02-05. Score: 1

A +1/+1 Counter exist on the commander. It doesn't count as a loyalty counter, it doesn't increase the loyalty.

If by some facet the commander is turned into a creature, the +1/+1 counter would change its power and toughness.


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