<p>When two or more trigger happen at the same time, the player controlling those triggers put them on the stack in an order of his/her choice, beginning with the active player.</p>

<p>So in your scenario, you can put the discard/draw trigger first and the bounce creature trigger second on the stack. This way, the bounce trigger will resolve first, so he/she will have to discard this creature, too, when the other trigger resolves.</p>

<p>Note, that he/she can respond to all triggers placed on the stack. If the bounced creature has Flash for example, he/she could replay it, before he/she has to discard</p>

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<p>I have a fun little <a href="http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=4848" rel="nofollow">shocker</a> deck. From Gatherer</p>

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  <p><strong>Whenever Shocker deals damage to a player</strong>, that player discards all the cards in his or her hand, then draws that many cards.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Note that the errata does not specify combat damage. When the stars align I usually have the following auras on the Shocker.   </p>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=130530" rel="nofollow">Arcane Teachings</a>: Enchanted creature gets +2/+2 and has "Tap: This creature deals 1 damage to target creature or player."</li>
<li><a href="http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=270813" rel="nofollow">Sigil of Sleep</a>: Whenever enchanted creature deals damage to a player, return target creature that player controls to its owner's hand.</li>
</ul>

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<p>My understanding is that when I damage a player (I even targeted myself to get a new hand in desperation) that his hand is discarded and new cards are drawn. Then at the <em>same time</em> a creature (assuming there is a legal target) returns to his hand. Netting the player 1 extra card in his hand once the action is completed. </p>

<p>Is this correct? Are there rules addressing this scenario?</p>

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What is the sequence of actions when my Shocker removes cards and places cards in my opponents hand?
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# What is the sequence of actions when my Shocker removes cards and places cards in my opponents hand?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2016-04-20)

I have a fun little [shocker](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=4848) deck. From Gatherer

> **Whenever Shocker deals damage to a player**, that player discards all the cards in his or her hand, then draws that many cards.

Note that the errata does not specify combat damage. When the stars align I usually have the following auras on the Shocker.

* [Arcane Teachings](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=130530): Enchanted creature gets +2/+2 and has "Tap: This creature deals 1 damage to target creature or player."
* [Sigil of Sleep](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=270813): Whenever enchanted creature deals damage to a player, return target creature that player controls to its owner's hand.

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My understanding is that when I damage a player (I even targeted myself to get a new hand in desperation) that his hand is discarded and new cards are drawn. Then at the *same time* a creature (assuming there is a legal target) returns to his hand. Netting the player 1 extra card in his hand once the action is completed.

Is this correct? Are there rules addressing this scenario?

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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2016-04-20. Score: 7

When two or more trigger happen at the same time, the player controlling those triggers put them on the stack in an order of his/her choice, beginning with the active player.

So in your scenario, you can put the discard/draw trigger first and the bounce creature trigger second on the stack. This way, the bounce trigger will resolve first, so he/she will have to discard this creature, too, when the other trigger resolves.

Note, that he/she can respond to all triggers placed on the stack. If the bounced creature has Flash for example, he/she could replay it, before he/she has to discard


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