<p>No.</p>
<p>Vizier of the Menagerie does not modify the cost; it allows mana to be treated as other types of mana for the purpose of paying the cost. The cost of Strangleroot Geist is still {G}{G}, which is not reduced by Animar, Soul of Elements.</p>
<p>For comparison, <a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Kentaro%2C%20the%20Smiling%20Cat">Kentaro, the Smiling Cat</a> does give an alternative cost, and that cost could be reduced by Animar, Soul of Elements all the way to {0}.</p>

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2021-12-27T13:17:31.763Z
I understand it doesn't change the cost, but if I can pay {2} for the Geist it may be reduced by Animar.
sinsedrix
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2021-12-27T13:36:30.440Z
@sinsedrix Vizier *doesn't* turn the cost of {G}{G} into {2}. It's still a cost of {G}{G}. The only thing that's changed is how you pay that symbol.
doppelgreener
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2021-12-27T15:56:05.347Z
@sinsedrix In other words: cost reduction, as the term implies, only applies to *costs*, not payments. As you already understand, the mana costs of a spell don't change with Vizier, therefore Animar can not reduce the amount of colored mana costs either.
Hackworth
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2021-12-27T12:43:31.300Z
2021-12-27T12:43:31.300Z
m90
<p>If I have a cost reduction on generic mana, can <a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Vizier%20of%20the%20Menagerie">Vizier of the Menagerie</a> help reduce non generic mana costs?</p>
<p>For example, I have <a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Animar%2C%20Soul%20of%20Elements">Animar, Soul of Elements</a> in play with 2 +1/+1 counters on it, can Vizier help to cast the coloured part of a creature spell, for example could I play <a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Strangleroot%20Geist">Strangleroot Geist</a> for free?</p>

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Vizier of the Menagerie and cost reducing
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# Vizier of the Menagerie and cost reducing

(Asked by: username_0 on 2021-12-27)

If I have a cost reduction on generic mana, can [Vizier of the Menagerie](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Vizier%20of%20the%20Menagerie) help reduce non generic mana costs?

For example, I have [Animar, Soul of Elements](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Animar%2C%20Soul%20of%20Elements) in play with 2 +1/+1 counters on it, can Vizier help to cast the coloured part of a creature spell, for example could I play [Strangleroot Geist](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Strangleroot%20Geist) for free?

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### Answer by username_1 on 2021-12-27. Score: 8

No.

Vizier of the Menagerie does not modify the cost; it allows mana to be treated as other types of mana for the purpose of paying the cost. The cost of Strangleroot Geist is still {G}{G}, which is not reduced by Animar, Soul of Elements.

For comparison, [Kentaro, the Smiling Cat](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Kentaro%2C%20the%20Smiling%20Cat) does give an alternative cost, and that cost could be reduced by Animar, Soul of Elements all the way to {0}.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: I understand it doesn't change the cost, but if I can pay {2} for the Geist it may be reduced by Animar.  
> **username_2**: @username_0 Vizier *doesn't* turn the cost of {G}{G} into {2}. It's still a cost of {G}{G}. The only thing that's changed is how you pay that symbol.  
> **username_3**: @username_0 In other words: cost reduction, as the term implies, only applies to *costs*, not payments. As you already understand, the mana costs of a spell don't change with Vizier, therefore Animar can not reduce the amount of colored mana costs either.  

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