<p>No.  This is covered in the <a href="http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=193582" rel="nofollow noreferrer">rulings for Renegade Doppelganger</a>:</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>If Renegade Doppelganger becomes a copy of another creature, that doesn’t count as having a creature enter the battlefield. Renegade Doppelganger was already on the battlefield; it only changed its characteristics. <strong>If Renegade Doppelganger gains any enters-the-battlefield triggered abilities, they won’t do anything.</strong> The same is true of any “as [this creature] enters the battlefield” or “[this creature] enters the battlefield with” abilities.</p>
</blockquote>

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2017-08-14T05:09:04.367Z
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BJ Myers
<p><strong>No,</strong></p>

<p>Your renegade doppelganger will become an Umara raptor.
but renegade doppleganger is not a Umara Raptor when Umara Raptor entered the battlefield and thus will not recieve a +1/+1 counter.</p>

<p>See following explanation:</p>

<p>Umara Raptor enters the battlefield:2 abilities will trigger</p>

<ul>
<li>Umara raptor will put a +1/+1 counter on itself.</li>
<li>Renegade Doppelganger becomes a copy of Umara Raptor</li>
</ul>

<p>There are currently no other "when ... enters the battlefield abilities present"</p>

<p>Both abilities will resolve.
Umara Raptor is already on the battlefield after this.</p>

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<p>EDIT: Note that Umara Raptors trigger can be split into 2 parts:</p>

<ol>
<li><strong>Whenever Umara Raptor enters the battlefield</strong> (see BJ Myers answer, the Renegade Doppelganger never enters the battlefield because of his cloning ability)</li>
<li><strong>or another Ally enters the battlefield under your control</strong> (adressed in this answer)</li>
</ol>

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2017-08-14T14:46:58.073Z
So if I played two uma raptors and compied the first one withRenegade would he get a +1/+1 when the second entered
user21560
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2017-08-16T06:32:42.893Z
That is correct.
counterflux
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counterflux
<p>If I control a <a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?name=%2b%5bRenegade%20Doppelganger%5d">Renegade Doppelganger</a> and I play <a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?name=%2b%5bUmara%20Raptor%5d">Umara Raptor</a> and choose for Renegade Doppleganger to copy it, would the Renegade Doppleganger get the +1/+1 counter?</p>

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2017-08-14T18:28:18.013Z
Are you asking about the 'when Umara Raptor enters the battlefield' part, or the 'when another Ally enters the battlefield' part of the ability? Since the first one is a duplicate of the one marked, but the second one would have a different reason (the answer is still no though)
diego
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Copying Allies with Shapeshifter
user21560
# Copying Allies with Shapeshifter

(Asked by: username_0 on 2017-08-14)

If I control a [Renegade Doppelganger](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?name=%2b%5bRenegade%20Doppelganger%5d) and I play [Umara Raptor](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?name=%2b%5bUmara%20Raptor%5d) and choose for Renegade Doppleganger to copy it, would the Renegade Doppleganger get the +1/+1 counter?

**Tags:** magic-the-gathering

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: Are you asking about the 'when Umara Raptor enters the battlefield' part, or the 'when another Ally enters the battlefield' part of the ability? Since the first one is a duplicate of the one marked, but the second one would have a different reason (the answer is still no though)  

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_2 on 2017-08-14. Score: 1 | Accepted answer

No. This is covered in the [rulings for Renegade Doppelganger](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=193582):

> If Renegade Doppelganger becomes a copy of another creature, that doesn’t count as having a creature enter the battlefield. Renegade Doppelganger was already on the battlefield; it only changed its characteristics. **If Renegade Doppelganger gains any enters-the-battlefield triggered abilities, they won’t do anything.** The same is true of any “as [this creature] enters the battlefield” or “[this creature] enters the battlefield with” abilities.


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### Answer by username_3 on 2017-08-14. Score: 1

**No,**

Your renegade doppelganger will become an Umara raptor.
but renegade doppleganger is not a Umara Raptor when Umara Raptor entered the battlefield and thus will not recieve a +1/+1 counter.

See following explanation:

Umara Raptor enters the battlefield:2 abilities will trigger

* Umara raptor will put a +1/+1 counter on itself.
* Renegade Doppelganger becomes a copy of Umara Raptor

There are currently no other "when ... enters the battlefield abilities present"

Both abilities will resolve.
Umara Raptor is already on the battlefield after this.

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EDIT: Note that Umara Raptors trigger can be split into 2 parts:

1. **Whenever Umara Raptor enters the battlefield** (see BJ username_2 answer, the Renegade Doppelganger never enters the battlefield because of his cloning ability)
2. **or another Ally enters the battlefield under your control** (adressed in this answer)

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: So if I played two uma raptors and compied the first one withRenegade would he get a +1/+1 when the second entered  
> **username_3**: That is correct.  

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