Answers.Body: <p>I would mention it in any class in which it is relevant, such as User Experience or where <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A/B_testing" rel="noreferrer">A/B testing</a> might be used to show different users different versions of a website and measure their behavior. Because such research is ubiquitous (consider <a href="http://www.thesempost.com/google-testing-both-lighter-darker-blue-links-in-search-results/" rel="noreferrer">Google's testing different shades of blue</a>), Facebook was unprepared for <a href="https://www.technologyreview.com/s/528706/facebooks-emotional-manipulation-study-is-just-the-latest-effort-to-prod-users/" rel="noreferrer">the backlash against their emotional manipulation study</a>.</p>
  
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Answers.Body: <p>Although it's unclear how human subjects might somehow be used in CS <em>research</em>, I think that such ethics should be taught in all fields, and not just CS.</p>
  
  <p>Indeed, it is not needed more in CS than in Biology (where humans often times really are the subject). But I'll address some of the examples you gave:</p>
  
  <p>The two examples you gave which I can imagine can somehow have human subjects are NLP and AI. Which is actually AI and AI (often times). Algorithms in Artificial intelligence often learn from human examples, which means humans provide examples. If this you consider this to mean that the humans is a subject, then there you have it: it's used in research.</p>
  
  <p>As for education, the ethics of <em>using human subjects in research</em> should be taught regardless of the field of education (unless this is criminology; and it isn't). Students should be taught these ethics and as far as reason goes, they are subject (pun intended) to review. These reviews would not allow un-ethical research to be conducted without a very good reason (such as a newely discovered disease which might wipe humanity and there are 3 infected people on the planet; again, highly unlikely that something of the sort can happen in CS).</p>
  
  <p>So, yes. A general education (generall, regardless of CS) in CS should include a component regarding these ethics. (as well as other ethics, like not to do plagiarism).</p>
  
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Answers.Text: I have a personal desire to distinguish strongly between the notion *"we should teach ethics"* (which we should) and *"we should teach people to navigate the bureaucracy which has developed around ethics compliance"* (which we also should, at least at the level of knowing that it is there and where to get started) because one is the territory and the other is (at best) a map.
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Body: <p>We had a question over at <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/93877/are-phd-supervisors-responsible-for-informing-students-about-legal-issues-pertai">academia.se</a> about what responsibility a PhD supervisor has for teaching students about the use of human subjects in research. In some fields it is obvious that a research methods course needs to touch on the ethical use of humans in research.</p>
  
  <p>While some areas of computer science (e.g., theoretical computer science and compiler design) likely do not use human subjects, other areas may include the use of human subjects. As I am not an expert in CS, using <a href="https://www.cs.washington.edu/research/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Washington University research topics</a> as a guide, AI, computational biology, computer graphics, data science, HCI, NLP, robotics, and ubiquitous computing all seem like they could involve the use of human subjects.</p>
  
  <p>While most universities provide an <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institutional_review_board" rel="nofollow noreferrer">IRB</a> or similar to protect human subjects, if students are not taught about them, how will they know the issues. Do, and should, a general CS education include a component addressing the use of human subjects in research?</p>
  
  <p>For example <a href="https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/124654/how-to-by-pass-bioethics-for-a-trivial-bio-experiment">this question</a> on academia.see is about a CS student that collected blood for testing imaging software.</p>
  
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Comments.Text: I shudder to think what CS research might even *need* human subjects.
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Comments.Text: @ItamarG3 virtual reality is an obvious one. Anything that is looking at usability is another. Signal processing/programming of medical devices is a third. I can go on if needed.
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Comments.Text: please do go on. It is needed. but try to do it in the question body. That'll make the question clearer.
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Comments.Text: Can you say a bit more about context? Some places permit this at the graduate level, but with strong (we hope) safeguards.  It is also a fact that much of the existing "research" has proven not to be reproducible, giving some a false picture of what the "truth" is. In the US post-secondary institutions have "Institutional Review Boards" (IRB) to reduce some of the problems.
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Comments.Text: I think you're going to have to expand on what you mean, specifically, by "subjects"... but this is definitely better than before! :)
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Comments.Text: @ItamarG3 I mean any research that might require IRB review
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Comments.Text: @StrongBad I think I got what you're talking about
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Comments.Text: A/B testing is a form of human subject research. All companies use it.
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Title: Does/should a CS education include information about responsible use of human subjects in research
ThreadText: # Does/should a CS education include information about responsible use of human subjects in research
  
  (Asked by: username_0 on 2017-08-01)
  
  We had a question over at [academia.se](https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/93877/are-phd-supervisors-responsible-for-informing-students-about-legal-issues-pertai) about what responsibility a PhD supervisor has for teaching students about the use of human subjects in research. In some fields it is obvious that a research methods course needs to touch on the ethical use of humans in research.
  
  While some areas of computer science (e.g., theoretical computer science and compiler design) likely do not use human subjects, other areas may include the use of human subjects. As I am not an expert in CS, using [Washington University research topics](https://www.cs.washington.edu/research/) as a guide, AI, computational biology, computer graphics, data science, HCI, NLP, robotics, and ubiquitous computing all seem like they could involve the use of human subjects.
  
  While most universities provide an [IRB](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institutional_review_board) or similar to protect human subjects, if students are not taught about them, how will they know the issues. Do, and should, a general CS education include a component addressing the use of human subjects in research?
  
  For example [this question](https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/124654/how-to-by-pass-bioethics-for-a-trivial-bio-experiment) on academia.see is about a CS student that collected blood for testing imaging software.
  
  **Tags:** curriculum-design, ethics
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_1**: I shudder to think what CS research might even *need* human subjects.  
  > **username_0**: @username_1 virtual reality is an obvious one. Anything that is looking at usability is another. Signal processing/programming of medical devices is a third. I can go on if needed.  
  > **username_1**: please do go on. It is needed. but try to do it in the question body. That'll make the question clearer.  
  > **username_2**: Can you say a bit more about context? Some places permit this at the graduate level, but with strong (we hope) safeguards.  It is also a fact that much of the existing "research" has proven not to be reproducible, giving some a false picture of what the "truth" is. In the US post-secondary institutions have "Institutional Review Boards" (IRB) to reduce some of the problems.  
  > **username_1**: I think you're going to have to expand on what you mean, specifically, by "subjects"... but this is definitely better than before! :)  
  > **username_0**: @username_1 I mean any research that might require IRB review  
  > **username_1**: @username_0 I think I got what you're talking about  
  > **username_3**: A/B testing is a form of human subject research. All companies use it.  
  
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  ### Answer by username_3 on 2017-08-01. Score: 8
  
  I would mention it in any class in which it is relevant, such as User Experience or where [A/B testing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A/B_testing) might be used to show different users different versions of a website and measure their behavior. Because such research is ubiquitous (consider [Google's testing different shades of blue](http://www.thesempost.com/google-testing-both-lighter-darker-blue-links-in-search-results/)), Facebook was unprepared for [the backlash against their emotional manipulation study](https://www.technologyreview.com/s/528706/facebooks-emotional-manipulation-study-is-just-the-latest-effort-to-prod-users/).
  
  
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  ### Answer by username_1 on 2017-08-01. Score: 4
  
  Although it's unclear how human subjects might somehow be used in CS *research*, I think that such ethics should be taught in all fields, and not just CS.
  
  Indeed, it is not needed more in CS than in Biology (where humans often times really are the subject). But I'll address some of the examples you gave:
  
  The two examples you gave which I can imagine can somehow have human subjects are NLP and AI. Which is actually AI and AI (often times). Algorithms in Artificial intelligence often learn from human examples, which means humans provide examples. If this you consider this to mean that the humans is a subject, then there you have it: it's used in research.
  
  As for education, the ethics of *using human subjects in research* should be taught regardless of the field of education (unless this is criminology; and it isn't). Students should be taught these ethics and as far as reason goes, they are subject (pun intended) to review. These reviews would not allow un-ethical research to be conducted without a very good reason (such as a newely discovered disease which might wipe humanity and there are 3 infected people on the planet; again, highly unlikely that something of the sort can happen in CS).
  
  So, yes. A general education (generall, regardless of CS) in CS should include a component regarding these ethics. (as well as other ethics, like not to do plagiarism).
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_4**: I have a personal desire to distinguish strongly between the notion *"we should teach ethics"* (which we should) and *"we should teach people to navigate the bureaucracy which has developed around ethics compliance"* (which we also should, at least at the level of knowing that it is there and where to get started) because one is the territory and the other is (at best) a map.  
  
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