Answers.Body: <p>It looks like LEGO did not intend to make Shuttle attachable to ISS despite the statement. At least not with a stud-on-stud connection like the set is designed right now.</p>
  
  <p>As seen in picture below, Shuttle is docked using a connection port inside storage bay with its doors open. Not sure if it is possible to replicate opened doors in scale Shuttle and ISS are built.</p>
  
  <p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/8VgUt.jpg" rel="noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/8VgUt.jpg" alt="enter image description here"></a></p>
  
  <p>However if you neglect the lack of this feature and accept the docking with storage bay doors closed a little modification could solve the issue. Existing <a href="https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=85975" rel="noreferrer">Fez</a> piece attached to ISS isn't deep enough to accept <a href="https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=20482#T=C" rel="noreferrer">Tile, Round 1 x 1 with Bar and Pin Holder</a> (to invert stud to anti-stud) so an addition of <a href="https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=85861#T=C" rel="noreferrer">Plate, Round 1 x 1 with Open Stud</a> aka "Apollo stud" in between both of them will help modifying the docking port.</p>
  
  <p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/OcCCG.png" rel="noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/OcCCG.png" alt="enter image description here"></a></p>
  
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Answers.Text: This design with its corrugated appeal also fits quite well visually. I just tried it and although it's not the most robust, it seems more stable than I would have expected and sufficient enough to hold the shuttle in place.
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Answers.Text: I still find it odd that LEGO didn't include an official way to achieve it, given that they explicitly advertize shuttle docking as a play feature and given how the other satelites and modules can be attached to the station somehow.
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Answers.Text: @ChristianRau This isn't something we could answer I'm afraid. It is advised to share such concern directly with LEGO support services over phone or [website](http://service.lego.com)
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Answers.Text: I don't see how this is a question worth asking the LEGO support services or how they could or would give any reasonable insights into the design decisions there.
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Answers.Text: @ChristianRau Obviously, LEGO Customer Support won't be able to provide details as to why such feature is missing, however same channel is used to collect feedback as well.
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Answers.Body: <p>It just so happens that I have this set and have come up with a way to attach it without adding pieces:</p>
  <p>All this requires is to move the two second-to-back float pads, take off the fez piece from the dock, attach it in the revealed anti stud on the bottom of the shuttle and put the fez piece back on, with the shuttle on top.</p>
  <p>I know it's not realistic because it's literally put on backwards to the way it is in real life and intended by NASA, but that's just my little way of docking the shuttle.</p>
  
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  <p>I use these pieces. The same size as the docking in the set, but two anti-stud attachments.</p>
  
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Answers.Body: <p>I have this set and didn’t need any additional parts to attach the space shuttle. <img src="https://i.sstatic.net/HyN4K.jpg" alt="enter image description here" /></p>
  
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Answers.Text: Was the white piece included in the set as well? It is definitely not shown in the instructions as intended like this - so if yes, it must either be an extra piece or missing from somewhere else.
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Answers.Text: The part is shown in step 93 and only used once. I think I just got lucky because it was included two times in n my set. Edit: part number is 6177114
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Answers.Text: You haven't been "lucky" (or at least not just you alone), but @zovits is right in that it's not explicitly included in the set either. According to Rebrickable, the piece is a genuine spare part (in addition to the one used in the set), as these little 1-wide pin connectors tend to be.
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  <p>In the extra small unused pieces that come with the set. There is a piece 6177114, you can see the reference in back of the instructions were it shows all the pieces, it is a Technic, pin connector round 1L. This piece will connect the space ship to the fez.<img src="https://i.sstatic.net/FaGqL.jpg" alt="enter image description here" /></p>
  
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Body: <p>The IDEAS International Space Station (21321) comes with a miniature model of a space shuttle. And while that has its place on the space station's stand, the official LEGO product page literally includes the statement "dock the shuttle" with a picture (that's also on the box) of the space shuttle approaching the front of the ISS model in order to dock. It seems to be a genuine "play feature":</p>
  
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  <p>But I have no idea <strong>how the shuttle is supposed to actually dock, i.e. how to fixate it onto the docking module in a stable and permanent way</strong>, given that it has studs facing each other. Besides this picture there is no hint on how to do that and the instructions don't include guides for that either. I also thought maybe it's the other way around (although that would possibly contradict physical reality), but the bottom of the shuttle is covered in float tiles.</p>
  
  <p>So is there a way to actually dock the space shuttle to the ISS? Is there an official build way that the instruction is just coy of mentioning? Does that possibly involve the hinged parts with the airlock prints on them that are right next to the supposed shuttle dock? Or are there any "inofficial" ideas on how to accomplish it, possibly involving additional parts?</p>
  
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  <p><sub>I know there are concerns about the space shuttle being a bit out of scale for the ISS when measured against reality and that a custom bigger shuttle might be more appropriate anyway. However, I still wonder how to dock the officially included shuttle model.</sub></p>
  
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Comments.Text: Can you please point out where the dock is?? I don't see it anywhere in the image.
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Comments.Text: @mindstormsboi I thought it's supposed to be the little black fez piece that's sticking out on the front of the ISS and that the shuttle is approaching. But I guess the exact specification of where it's supposed to dock is ultimately part of the question.
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Comments.Text: Perhaps you can use a photo editor (such as the built-in snip&sketch software on windows 10) to circle the place you're talking about; I don't understand what you mean by "fez piece."
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Comments.Text: @mindstormsboi: “Fez piece” is a very common description of the black piece that in the above picture is situated just above the shuttle cargo bay on the ISS itself. Even Bricklink calls it Fez: https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=85975&name=Cone%201%201/6%20x%201%201/6%20x%202/3%20(Fez)&category=%5BCone%5D#T=S&O=%7B%22iconly%22:0%7D. I see no reason for the OP to point that out more specifically.
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Title: How does the Space Shuttle dock the ISS?
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ThreadText: # How does the Space Shuttle dock the ISS?
  
  (Asked by: username_0 on 2020-05-16)
  
  The IDEAS International Space Station (21321) comes with a miniature model of a space shuttle. And while that has its place on the space station's stand, the official username_4 product page literally includes the statement "dock the shuttle" with a picture (that's also on the box) of the space shuttle approaching the front of the ISS model in order to dock. It seems to be a genuine "play feature":
  
  [![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/hPJvQ.jpg)](https://i.sstatic.net/hPJvQ.jpg)
  
  But I have no idea **how the shuttle is supposed to actually dock, i.e. how to fixate it onto the docking module in a stable and permanent way**, given that it has studs facing each other. Besides this picture there is no hint on how to do that and the instructions don't include guides for that either. I also thought maybe it's the other way around (although that would possibly contradict physical reality), but the bottom of the shuttle is covered in float tiles.
  
  So is there a way to actually dock the space shuttle to the ISS? Is there an official build way that the instruction is just coy of mentioning? Does that possibly involve the hinged parts with the airlock prints on them that are right next to the supposed shuttle dock? Or are there any "inofficial" ideas on how to accomplish it, possibly involving additional parts?
  
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  I know there are concerns about the space shuttle being a bit out of scale for the ISS when measured against reality and that a custom bigger shuttle might be more appropriate anyway. However, I still wonder how to dock the officially included shuttle model.
  
  **Tags:** building, space, ideas
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_1**: Can you please point out where the dock is?? I don't see it anywhere in the image.  
  > **username_0**: @username_1 I thought it's supposed to be the little black fez piece that's sticking out on the front of the ISS and that the shuttle is approaching. But I guess the exact specification of where it's supposed to dock is ultimately part of the question.  
  > **username_1**: Perhaps you can use a photo editor (such as the built-in snip&sketch software on windows 10) to circle the place you're talking about; I don't understand what you mean by "fez piece."  
  > **username_2**: @username_1: “Fez piece” is a very common description of the black piece that in the above picture is situated just above the shuttle cargo bay on the ISS itself. Even Bricklink calls it Fez: https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=85975&name=Cone%201%201/6%20x%201%201/6%20x%202/3%20(Fez)&category=%5BCone%5D#T=S&O=%7B%22iconly%22:0%7D. I see no reason for the OP to point that out more specifically.  
  
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  ## 5 answers
  
  ### Answer by username_3 on 2020-05-17. Score: 15 | Accepted answer
  
  It looks like username_4 did not intend to make Shuttle attachable to ISS despite the statement. At least not with a stud-on-stud connection like the set is designed right now.
  
  As seen in picture below, Shuttle is docked using a connection port inside storage bay with its doors open. Not sure if it is possible to replicate opened doors in scale Shuttle and ISS are built.
  
  [![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/8VgUt.jpg)](https://i.sstatic.net/8VgUt.jpg)
  
  However if you neglect the lack of this feature and accept the docking with storage bay doors closed a little modification could solve the issue. Existing [Fez](https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=85975) piece attached to ISS isn't deep enough to accept [Tile, Round 1 x 1 with Bar and Pin Holder](https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=20482#T=C) (to invert stud to anti-stud) so an addition of [Plate, Round 1 x 1 with Open Stud](https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=85861#T=C) aka "Apollo stud" in between both of them will help modifying the docking port.
  
  [![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/OcCCG.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/OcCCG.png)
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_0**: This design with its corrugated appeal also fits quite well visually. I just tried it and although it's not the most robust, it seems more stable than I would have expected and sufficient enough to hold the shuttle in place.  
  > **username_0**: I still find it odd that username_4 didn't include an official way to achieve it, given that they explicitly advertize shuttle docking as a play feature and given how the other satelites and modules can be attached to the station somehow.  
  > **username_3**: @ChristianRau This isn't something we could answer I'm afraid. It is advised to share such concern directly with username_4 support services over phone or [website](http://service.username_4.com)  
  > **username_0**: I don't see how this is a question worth asking the username_4 support services or how they could or would give any reasonable insights into the design decisions there.  
  > **username_3**: @ChristianRau Obviously, username_4 Customer Support won't be able to provide details as to why such feature is missing, however same channel is used to collect feedback as well.  
  
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  ### Answer by username_4 on 2021-01-27. Score: 9
  
  It just so happens that I have this set and have come up with a way to attach it without adding pieces:
  
  All this requires is to move the two second-to-back float pads, take off the fez piece from the dock, attach it in the revealed anti stud on the bottom of the shuttle and put the fez piece back on, with the shuttle on top.
  
  I know it's not realistic because it's literally put on backwards to the way it is in real life and intended by NASA, but that's just my little way of docking the shuttle.
  
  
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  ### Answer by username_5 on 2021-12-07. Score: 7
  
  [![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/en2eB.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/en2eB.png)
  
  I use these pieces. The same size as the docking in the set, but two anti-stud attachments.
  
  
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  ### Answer by username_6 on 2021-12-11. Score: 3
  
  I have this set and didn’t need any additional parts to attach the space shuttle. ![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/HyN4K.jpg)
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_7**: Was the white piece included in the set as well? It is definitely not shown in the instructions as intended like this - so if yes, it must either be an extra piece or missing from somewhere else.  
  > **username_6**: The part is shown in step 93 and only used once. I think I just got lucky because it was included two times in n my set. Edit: part number is 6177114  
  > **username_0**: You haven't been "lucky" (or at least not just you alone), but @username_7 is right in that it's not explicitly included in the set either. According to Rebrickable, the piece is a genuine spare part (in addition to the one used in the set), as these little 1-wide pin connectors tend to be.  
  
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  ### Answer by username_8 on 2021-12-30. Score: -2
  
  ![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/GpLCV.jpg)
  
  In the extra small unused pieces that come with the set. There is a piece 6177114, you can see the reference in back of the instructions were it shows all the pieces, it is a Technic, pin connector round 1L. This piece will connect the space ship to the fez.![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/FaGqL.jpg)
  
  
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