Answers.Body: <p>Based on the information given in the question and comments, it sounds like an all too typical pinch-point wire failure.  On large electronics this is fairly easy to fix, but smaller things like PF motors are tedious and require some experience and skill.  Because of the design, the wire will be constantly bending against the motor case, or connector plug, in the exact same place over and over again.  Because the wire insulation is more flexible then the metal wire, it will stay intact while the wire inside of it has broken.  When you wiggle or push the wire to get it working again, you are smashing the broken wires back together again inside the insulation.  You might be able to determine whether this breakage is on the motor side or plug side of the wire by isolating one end while pushing/bending the other end, while plugged into battery box.</p>
  
  <p>Since you have new ones coming, and they're already broken, this is a great learning opportunity if you really want to attempt a fix.  You are going to need a soldering gun/iron and some solder at the very least.  </p>
  
  <p>The basic wiring setup for all the PF motors is very similar.  Here are two examples of PF motors with the pinch-point area circled:</p>
  
  <p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/uod2k.jpg" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/uod2k.jpg" alt="enter image description here"></a>  </p>
  
  <p>Because this is more or a raw electronics question (vs. Lego) and requires a lengthy description, I have placed a link to YouTube listing several videos on how to do this.  Any of these videos should help you because all of the insides and disassembling techniques are very similar to your L-motor.  </p>
  
  <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Fixing+Lego+PF+motors" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Fixing+Lego+PF+motors</a>  </p>
  
  <p>Here are some pictures of the tools recommended by Zovits and myself:  </p>
  
  <p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/K9PGg.jpg" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/K9PGg.jpg" alt="enter image description here"></a><br>
  <a href="https://i.sstatic.net/SIR3y.jpg" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/SIR3y.jpg" alt="enter image description here"></a></p>
  
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Answers.Text: +1, that wire connection does really seem like a weak point and based on the comments, it is probably the culprit in at least that one motor.
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Answers.Text: @zovits - I hope he can figure it out.  Since they're already broken I figure, "What has he got to lose?".  Thank you for the +1, I will be returning the gesture as it's well deserved for all of the information and assistance you provided in your answer.
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Answers.Body: <p>Since the basic architecture of the motors in a line (in this case PF M-L-XL) are the same, the tips you have found for the other models would most likely apply for your case as well.</p>
  
  <p>Otherwise I'd recommend some basic troubleshooting steps:</p>
  
  <ol>
  <li>Ensure you have a working battery box and cable by setting up your functioning motor. Once you have confirmed that it runs OK, you can be sure that if after swapping the motor for a broken one, the problem must be in that motor.</li>
  <li>Check if you can turn the motor's axle manually by inserting a Technic axle and turning it by hand. It may be more comfortable if you add a gear or a wheel to get a better grip. If you can't turn it at all or only considerably harder than the working one, you should suspect some mechanical failure (e.g. broken gears inside).</li>
  <li>If you have a multimeter, you could check if the electrical characteristics of the broken motors match those of the working one. A significantly lower resistance between the contacts is a sign of a short circuit, while a significantly higher one indicates a broken wire. With a bit of jerry-rigging you could also measure the current flowing through a motor that should be running from a battery box and comparing it to a normal motor's to see if there is too little or too much current.</li>
  <li>You could also try <a href="https://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-fix-LEGO-M-motor/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">opening up the motor</a> and checking for broken or burned parts, foreign objects or debris, etc. Note, the above guide is for the M motor, but the same principles would apply for the L motor as well.</li>
  </ol>
  
  <p>If none of the above helps, try contacting LEGO, as they would be able to provide replacement parts or further advice.</p>
  
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Answers.Text: i did mention in reply that the battery box, i tried other stuff such as working ir reciever, other type pf motors like m motor, pole switch thing, they all work perfectly fine on same battery box, but broken ones don't, it is possible to turn broken ones by placing axle in it then turn. i dont know what a multimeter is. i dont know what jerry rigging is either, also one of the broken ones, when i pull a little bit on the plug end it starts working but when i release it stops agian.
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Answers.Text: A [multimeter](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multimeter) is a device for measuring (among others) electrical resistance and current. The term ["jerry rigging"](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/jerry-rigged) refers to something constructed quickly and without regard for aesthetics or future maintainability. Here I meant "Just use some wires and clips to hold everything in place to build a circuit to measure the current across the poles of the motor". If that still sounds alien to you, I'd recommend consulting an electronics tutorial or skipping this test altogether.
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Answers.Text: Based on the observations with pulling the plug end, it looks like as if it were an issue with the electrical contacts. In this case, either measuring the resistance in both relaxed and pulled states or disassembling would be helpful to diagnose the actual problem.
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Answers.Text: i did contact customer support, if im correct they said they did send a order new motors request for me and free of charge too. But i still want to have these motors working too..
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Answers.Text: That's great news! So if all works well, you'll be having brand new working motors, as well as repairing your old ones. Make sure to update us on your progress or ask if you have tried something and got stuck! Meanwhile, take the [tour](https://bricks.stackexchange.com/tour) and visit the [help center](https://bricks.stackexchange.com/help) to learn more about Bricks.SE :)
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Answers.Text: Ok. repairing them i dont really know how, lego didnt ask for me to send the broken ones back.
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Answers.Text: Just try some of the steps described either here or in the other sites you have found for the M and XL motors.
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Answers.Text: I didn't notice your link to the "opening up" video before.  This was one of the videos I came across in my search and looks to contain everything one would need to fix the wire problem.  Nice find :)
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Body: <p>Four of my PF L motors don't work. How could I make them work again? I didn't find any information about L motors, only M and XL.</p>
  
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Comments.Text: Welcome to Bricks.SE.  Are they making any noise at all?  Have you tried replacing batteries?
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Comments.Text: @chicks They dont make any noise or movement ay all... and im pretty sure its not the battery box fault, as 1 L motor that works works fine on it, and stuff like IR reciever and pole switch also works fine on same battery box.
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Title: Fixing a not working Power Functions L motor
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ThreadText: # Fixing a not working Power Functions L motor
  
  (Asked by: username_0 on 2019-09-10)
  
  Four of my PF L motors don't work. How could I make them work again? I didn't find any information about L motors, only M and XL.
  
  **Tags:** technic, power-functions, repair
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_1**: Welcome to Bricks.SE.  Are they making any noise at all?  Have you tried replacing batteries?  
  > **username_0**: @username_1 They dont make any noise or movement ay all... and im pretty sure its not the battery box fault, as 1 L motor that works works fine on it, and stuff like IR reciever and pole switch also works fine on same battery box.  
  
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  ## 2 answers
  
  ### Answer by username_2 on 2019-09-11. Score: 2
  
  Based on the information given in the question and comments, it sounds like an all too typical pinch-point wire failure. On large electronics this is fairly easy to fix, but smaller things like PF motors are tedious and require some experience and skill. Because of the design, the wire will be constantly bending against the motor case, or connector plug, in the exact same place over and over again. Because the wire insulation is more flexible then the metal wire, it will stay intact while the wire inside of it has broken. When you wiggle or push the wire to get it working again, you are smashing the broken wires back together again inside the insulation. You might be able to determine whether this breakage is on the motor side or plug side of the wire by isolating one end while pushing/bending the other end, while plugged into battery box.
  
  Since you have new ones coming, and they're already broken, this is a great learning opportunity if you really want to attempt a fix. You are going to need a soldering gun/iron and some solder at the very least.
  
  The basic wiring setup for all the PF motors is very similar. Here are two examples of PF motors with the pinch-point area circled:
  
  [![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/uod2k.jpg)](https://i.sstatic.net/uod2k.jpg)
  
  Because this is more or a raw electronics question (vs. Lego) and requires a lengthy description, I have placed a link to YouTube listing several videos on how to do this. Any of these videos should help you because all of the insides and disassembling techniques are very similar to your L-motor.
  
  <https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Fixing+Lego+PF+motors>
  
  Here are some pictures of the tools recommended by username_3 and myself:
  
  [![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/K9PGg.jpg)](https://i.sstatic.net/K9PGg.jpg)  
  [![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/SIR3y.jpg)](https://i.sstatic.net/SIR3y.jpg)
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_3**: +1, that wire connection does really seem like a weak point and based on the comments, it is probably the culprit in at least that one motor.  
  > **username_2**: @username_3 - I hope he can figure it out.  Since they're already broken I figure, "What has he got to lose?".  Thank you for the +1, I will be returning the gesture as it's well deserved for all of the information and assistance you provided in your answer.  
  
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  ### Answer by username_3 on 2019-09-11. Score: 2
  
  Since the basic architecture of the motors in a line (in this case PF M-L-XL) are the same, the tips you have found for the other models would most likely apply for your case as well.
  
  Otherwise I'd recommend some basic troubleshooting steps:
  
  1. Ensure you have a working battery box and cable by setting up your functioning motor. Once you have confirmed that it runs OK, you can be sure that if after swapping the motor for a broken one, the problem must be in that motor.
  2. Check if you can turn the motor's axle manually by inserting a Technic axle and turning it by hand. It may be more comfortable if you add a gear or a wheel to get a better grip. If you can't turn it at all or only considerably harder than the working one, you should suspect some mechanical failure (e.g. broken gears inside).
  3. If you have a multimeter, you could check if the electrical characteristics of the broken motors match those of the working one. A significantly lower resistance between the contacts is a sign of a short circuit, while a significantly higher one indicates a broken wire. With a bit of jerry-rigging you could also measure the current flowing through a motor that should be running from a battery box and comparing it to a normal motor's to see if there is too little or too much current.
  4. You could also try [opening up the motor](https://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-fix-LEGO-M-motor/) and checking for broken or burned parts, foreign objects or debris, etc. Note, the above guide is for the M motor, but the same principles would apply for the L motor as well.
  
  If none of the above helps, try contacting LEGO, as they would be able to provide replacement parts or further advice.
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_0**: i did mention in reply that the battery box, i tried other stuff such as working ir reciever, other type pf motors like m motor, pole switch thing, they all work perfectly fine on same battery box, but broken ones don't, it is possible to turn broken ones by placing axle in it then turn. i dont know what a multimeter is. i dont know what jerry rigging is either, also one of the broken ones, when i pull a little bit on the plug end it starts working but when i release it stops agian.  
  > **username_3**: A [multimeter](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multimeter) is a device for measuring (among others) electrical resistance and current. The term ["jerry rigging"](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/jerry-rigged) refers to something constructed quickly and without regard for aesthetics or future maintainability. Here I meant "Just use some wires and clips to hold everything in place to build a circuit to measure the current across the poles of the motor". If that still sounds alien to you, I'd recommend consulting an electronics tutorial or skipping this test altogether.  
  > **username_3**: Based on the observations with pulling the plug end, it looks like as if it were an issue with the electrical contacts. In this case, either measuring the resistance in both relaxed and pulled states or disassembling would be helpful to diagnose the actual problem.  
  > **username_0**: i did contact customer support, if im correct they said they did send a order new motors request for me and free of charge too. But i still want to have these motors working too..  
  > **username_3**: That's great news! So if all works well, you'll be having brand new working motors, as well as repairing your old ones. Make sure to update us on your progress or ask if you have tried something and got stuck! Meanwhile, take the [tour](https://bricks.stackexchange.com/tour) and visit the [help center](https://bricks.stackexchange.com/help) to learn more about Bricks.SE :)  
  > **username_0**: Ok. repairing them i dont really know how, lego didnt ask for me to send the broken ones back.  
  > **username_3**: Just try some of the steps described either here or in the other sites you have found for the M and XL motors.  
  > **username_2**: I didn't notice your link to the "opening up" video before.  This was one of the videos I came across in my search and looks to contain everything one would need to fix the wire problem.  Nice find :)  
  
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