Answers.Body: <p>If you need a fast motor but not having too much torque, yet powerful enough 
   - consider using a PF L-motor. It has roughly half of the XL-motor's torque, but twice as much rpm.</p>
  
  <p>The PF XL-motor has high torque, considering its intended application with LEGO. This is known to cause some serious damage to gears if the assembly isn't rigid enough. It is essential to have your gears braced properly from both sides. Otherwise your gears will be slipping and/or grinding under load. In your picture you have your gears braced from one side only - this will cause you problems. You need to construct <strong>rigid bracing</strong> from the other side as well.</p>
  
  <p>I find Sariel's <a href="http://gears.sariel.pl/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Gear Ratio Calculator</a> useful for finding the right gears for your application.</p>
  
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Answers.Text: I know it really does hurt my gears! If you look in the picture closely at the small gears teeth, they look all scraped and rigged. I have already gone through 2 gears ! Lmao! Thanks so much for the usefull tip it actualy worked and now i can actualy see the engine go fast without hearing that scratching on the poor little gear
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Answers.Body: <p>To me, that does not really look like a proper gear train. I recommend that you line up all your gears on a technic beam and stick axles through them (and obviously bushes so they don't fall out). You also need to be using the correct gears. In other words, the ones you're using seem incompatible with each other, so you need to find gears that are designed to work together such as <a href="https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=10928#T=C" rel="nofollow noreferrer">this gear</a> with <a href="https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=3648#T=C" rel="nofollow noreferrer">this gear</a> combined and <a href="https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=32498#T=C" rel="nofollow noreferrer">this gear</a> with <a href="https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=32270#T=C" rel="nofollow noreferrer">this gear</a> combined. Also, make sure that any other Lego bricks are not interfering with the gear train. <a href="https://bricks.stackexchange.com/questions/4732/which-is-faster-m-motor-or-xl-motor#comment17972_14929">More info about gear trains</a>.</p>
  <p>Here is an example of what I mean:</p>
  <p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/IYpd5.jpg" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/IYpd5.jpg" alt="gear" /></a></p>
  <p>As you can see there are no bushes attached to the axle, but that's because I'm using <a href="https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=24316&amp;name=Technic,%20Axle%203%20with%20Stop&amp;category=%5BTechnic,%20Axle%5D#T=C" rel="nofollow noreferrer">axles with stop</a>. I lined up my gears on a beam without putting them too far or too close from each other and now they freely spin with no problem.</p>
  <p>You also wonder how to make your engine faster. If using one single big gear and another small gear together is not fast enough, try adding some more. I will show you one way of doing this step-by-step.</p>
  <p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/jLSpP.jpg" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/jLSpP.jpg" alt="enter image description here" /></a></p>
  <p>Above is one big gear and one smaller gear, which is considerably faster than without any gears at all (unless you use the smaller gear as input gear, which gives opposite effect). If it is not fast enough for you, then we will expand the gear train to make it faster.</p>
  <p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/610ZB.jpg" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/610ZB.jpg" alt="enter image description here" /></a></p>
  <p>Now there is another big gear on top of the small one. This is because another small gear will follow after it, which will be almost twice as fast as the previous small gear.</p>
  <p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/w34od.jpg" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/w34od.jpg" alt="enter image description here" /></a></p>
  <p>Now there is the smaller gear. As I already said, it will be faster than the previous one due to the size of the other gears following it.</p>
  <p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/SIuJY.jpg" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/SIuJY.jpg" alt="enter image description here" /></a></p>
  <p>Now we put a bush under it to prevent it from slipping. You might think I could've put another big gear there instead, but <em>no</em>, I can't, because it will ruin the gear train and jam it up. The gear train will therefore continue on the other side of the beam, like so:</p>
  <p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/TEgir.jpg" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/TEgir.jpg" alt="enter image description here" /></a></p>
  <p>A big gear was placed on the other side of the beam to continue the gear train, and of course, a smaller gear will follow after it. But keep in mind that the smaller gear should be on the <em>right</em> axle from the bigger gear, not the <em>left</em>, because the axles on the left are already controlled by gears and you may end up twisting the axle or breaking the teeth off of the gears above them. It is also worth noting that putting too many gears will make it too hard for the motor to move them due to the heavy load of overall friction between them, so don't try to make it too fast.</p>
  <p><strong>Update:</strong> Here's another picture of some example gear trains taken from <a href="https://bricks.stackexchange.com/a/11644/15028">this answer</a>:</p>
  <p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/wOA9Y.jpg" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/wOA9Y.jpg" alt="geartrains" /></a></p>
  <p>You can also use <a href="https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=3711#T=C" rel="nofollow noreferrer">gear links</a> to make your gears faster while they are spread apart, as seen here:</p>
  <p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/IRZqO.jpg" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/IRZqO.jpg" alt="tehnciclinks" /></a></p>
  <p>Just note that there are different variations of those gear links which are designed to work with different gears.</p>
  
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Body: <p>I have a LEGO engine powered by a PF XL motor but I didn't realize until now that the motor is not that fast and that even when I increase gear ratio the gears always get either unattached or jammed.</p>
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  <p>What should I do?</p>
  <hr />
  <h2>Update:</h2>
  <p>Thanks to mindstormsboi and Alex I was able to change the design of the engine to the following. It works much better now.</p>
  <p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/Izq8M.jpg" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/Izq8M.jpg" alt="enter image description here" /></a></p>
  
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Comments.Text: What does your engine do? Why do you want it go faster? I think I can see two ramps. Is this a GBC module? If you remove the motor and crank by hand, does it still jam?
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Comments.Text: Following your update I can see you've skipped bracing your gear assembly. Since you still use XL-motor I would go with following setup: motor - Technic bricks (1 stud wide) - gears(1st pair) - Technic bricks (1 stud wide) - 2nd pair of gears - last set of Technic bricks (1 stud wide) - output axle. This will ensure your gears won't move under load.
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Comments.Text: No i did not? I just put up a picture of it without its brace so you could see how the drivetrain works!
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Title: How can I make my LEGO engine go faster
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ThreadText: # How can I make my LEGO engine go faster
  
  (Asked by: username_0 on 2020-06-14)
  
  I have a LEGO engine powered by a PF XL motor but I didn't realize until now that the motor is not that fast and that even when I increase gear ratio the gears always get either unattached or jammed.
  
  [![engine](https://i.sstatic.net/sx0ey.jpg)](https://i.sstatic.net/sx0ey.jpg)
  
  What should I do?
  
  ---
  
  ## Update:
  
  Thanks to username_3 and username_2 I was able to change the design of the engine to the following. It works much better now.
  
  [![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/Izq8M.jpg)](https://i.sstatic.net/Izq8M.jpg)
  
  **Tags:** technic, gears, gearing
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_1**: What does your engine do? Why do you want it go faster? I think I can see two ramps. Is this a GBC module? If you remove the motor and crank by hand, does it still jam?  
  > **username_2**: Following your update I can see you've skipped bracing your gear assembly. Since you still use XL-motor I would go with following setup: motor - Technic bricks (1 stud wide) - gears(1st pair) - Technic bricks (1 stud wide) - 2nd pair of gears - last set of Technic bricks (1 stud wide) - output axle. This will ensure your gears won't move under load.  
  > **username_0**: No i did not? I just put up a picture of it without its brace so you could see how the drivetrain works!  
  > **username_3**: @username_0 You forgot to use that @ again...  
  
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  ## 2 answers
  
  ### Answer by username_2 on 2020-06-15. Score: 3
  
  If you need a fast motor but not having too much torque, yet powerful enough
  - consider using a PF L-motor. It has roughly half of the XL-motor's torque, but twice as much rpm.
  
  The PF XL-motor has high torque, considering its intended application with LEGO. This is known to cause some serious damage to gears if the assembly isn't rigid enough. It is essential to have your gears braced properly from both sides. Otherwise your gears will be slipping and/or grinding under load. In your picture you have your gears braced from one side only - this will cause you problems. You need to construct **rigid bracing** from the other side as well.
  
  I find Sariel's [Gear Ratio Calculator](http://gears.sariel.pl/) useful for finding the right gears for your application.
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_0**: I know it really does hurt my gears! If you look in the picture closely at the small gears teeth, they look all scraped and rigged. I have already gone through 2 gears ! Lmao! Thanks so much for the usefull tip it actualy worked and now i can actualy see the engine go fast without hearing that scratching on the poor little gear  
  
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  ### Answer by username_3 on 2020-06-14. Score: 1
  
  To me, that does not really look like a proper gear train. I recommend that you line up all your gears on a technic beam and stick axles through them (and obviously bushes so they don't fall out). You also need to be using the correct gears. In other words, the ones you're using seem incompatible with each other, so you need to find gears that are designed to work together such as [this gear](https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=10928#T=C) with [this gear](https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=3648#T=C) combined and [this gear](https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=32498#T=C) with [this gear](https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=32270#T=C) combined. Also, make sure that any other Lego bricks are not interfering with the gear train. [More info about gear trains](https://bricks.stackexchange.com/questions/4732/which-is-faster-m-motor-or-xl-motor#comment17972_14929).
  
  Here is an example of what I mean:
  
  [![gear](https://i.sstatic.net/IYpd5.jpg)](https://i.sstatic.net/IYpd5.jpg)
  
  As you can see there are no bushes attached to the axle, but that's because I'm using [axles with stop](https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=24316&name=Technic,%20Axle%203%20with%20Stop&category=%5BTechnic,%20Axle%5D#T=C). I lined up my gears on a beam without putting them too far or too close from each other and now they freely spin with no problem.
  
  You also wonder how to make your engine faster. If using one single big gear and another small gear together is not fast enough, try adding some more. I will show you one way of doing this step-by-step.
  
  [![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/jLSpP.jpg)](https://i.sstatic.net/jLSpP.jpg)
  
  Above is one big gear and one smaller gear, which is considerably faster than without any gears at all (unless you use the smaller gear as input gear, which gives opposite effect). If it is not fast enough for you, then we will expand the gear train to make it faster.
  
  [![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/610ZB.jpg)](https://i.sstatic.net/610ZB.jpg)
  
  Now there is another big gear on top of the small one. This is because another small gear will follow after it, which will be almost twice as fast as the previous small gear.
  
  [![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/w34od.jpg)](https://i.sstatic.net/w34od.jpg)
  
  Now there is the smaller gear. As I already said, it will be faster than the previous one due to the size of the other gears following it.
  
  [![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/SIuJY.jpg)](https://i.sstatic.net/SIuJY.jpg)
  
  Now we put a bush under it to prevent it from slipping. You might think I could've put another big gear there instead, but *no*, I can't, because it will ruin the gear train and jam it up. The gear train will therefore continue on the other side of the beam, like so:
  
  [![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/TEgir.jpg)](https://i.sstatic.net/TEgir.jpg)
  
  A big gear was placed on the other side of the beam to continue the gear train, and of course, a smaller gear will follow after it. But keep in mind that the smaller gear should be on the *right* axle from the bigger gear, not the *left*, because the axles on the left are already controlled by gears and you may end up twisting the axle or breaking the teeth off of the gears above them. It is also worth noting that putting too many gears will make it too hard for the motor to move them due to the heavy load of overall friction between them, so don't try to make it too fast.
  
  **Update:** Here's another picture of some example gear trains taken from [this answer](https://bricks.stackexchange.com/a/11644/15028):
  
  [![geartrains](https://i.sstatic.net/wOA9Y.jpg)](https://i.sstatic.net/wOA9Y.jpg)
  
  You can also use [gear links](https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=3711#T=C) to make your gears faster while they are spread apart, as seen here:
  
  [![tehnciclinks](https://i.sstatic.net/IRZqO.jpg)](https://i.sstatic.net/IRZqO.jpg)
  
  Just note that there are different variations of those gear links which are designed to work with different gears.
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_4**: Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been [moved to chat](https://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/109416/discussion-on-answer-by-username_3-how-can-i-make-my-lego-engine-go-faster).  
  
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