Answers.Body: <p><a href="http://www.cs.toronto.edu/~fritz/absps/ncfast.pdf" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Unsupervised pre-training</a> was done only very shortly, as far as I know, at the time when deep learning started to actually work. It extracts certain regularities in the data, which a later supervised learning can latch onto, so it is not surprising that it might work. On the other hand, unsupervised learning doesn't give particularly impressive results in very deep nets, so it is also not surprising that with current very deep nets, it isn't used anymore. </p>
  
  <p>I was wondering whether the initial success with unsupervised pre-training had something to do with the fact that the ideal initialization of neural nets was only worked out later. In that case, unsupervised pre-training would only be a very complicated way of getting the weights to the correct size. </p>
  
  <p>Unsupervised deep learning is something like the holy grail of AI right now and  hasn't been found yet. Unsupervised deep learning would allow you to use massive amounts of unlabeled data and let the net form its own categories. Later you can just use a little bit of labeled data to give these categories their proper labels. Or just train it immediately on some task, in the conviction that it has a huge amount of knowledge about the world already. This is also what the problem of common sense comes down to: a huge and detailed model of the world, that could only be acquired by unsupervised learning.</p>
  
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Answers.Body: <p>i think that Training deep learning neural networks can be difficult because of local optima in the objective function and because complex models are prone to overfitting. Unsupervised pre-training initializes a discriminative neural net from one which was trained using an unsupervised criterion, such as a deep belief network or a deep autoencoder. This method can sometimes help with both the optimization and the overfitting issues, and about deep learning actually work Because there is no external taecher in unsupervised learning, it is really crucial to increase the entropy which can be done by redundancies in the data.</p>
  
  <p>source: <a href="https://metacademy.org/graphs/concepts/unsupervised_pre_training" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://metacademy.org/graphs/concepts/unsupervised_pre_training</a></p>
  
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Body: <p>What is the effectiveness of pre-training of unsupervised deep learning?</p>
  
  <p>Does unsupervised deep learning actually work?</p>
  
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Title: Why does unsupervised pre-training help in deep learning?
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ThreadText: # Why does unsupervised pre-training help in deep learning?
  
  (Asked by: username_0 on 2016-08-02)
  
  What is the effectiveness of pre-training of unsupervised deep learning?
  
  Does unsupervised deep learning actually work?
  
  **Tags:** deep-learning, unsupervised-learning, transfer-learning
  
  
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  ### Answer by username_1 on 2016-12-30. Score: 2 | Accepted answer
  
  [Unsupervised pre-training](http://www.cs.toronto.edu/~fritz/absps/ncfast.pdf) was done only very shortly, as far as I know, at the time when deep learning started to actually work. It extracts certain regularities in the data, which a later supervised learning can latch onto, so it is not surprising that it might work. On the other hand, unsupervised learning doesn't give particularly impressive results in very deep nets, so it is also not surprising that with current very deep nets, it isn't used anymore.
  
  I was wondering whether the initial success with unsupervised pre-training had something to do with the fact that the ideal initialization of neural nets was only worked out later. In that case, unsupervised pre-training would only be a very complicated way of getting the weights to the correct size.
  
  Unsupervised deep learning is something like the holy grail of AI right now and hasn't been found yet. Unsupervised deep learning would allow you to use massive amounts of unlabeled data and let the net form its own categories. Later you can just use a little bit of labeled data to give these categories their proper labels. Or just train it immediately on some task, in the conviction that it has a huge amount of knowledge about the world already. This is also what the problem of common sense comes down to: a huge and detailed model of the world, that could only be acquired by unsupervised learning.
  
  
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  ### Answer by username_2 on 2020-04-21. Score: 0
  
  i think that Training deep learning neural networks can be difficult because of local optima in the objective function and because complex models are prone to overfitting. Unsupervised pre-training initializes a discriminative neural net from one which was trained using an unsupervised criterion, such as a deep belief network or a deep autoencoder. This method can sometimes help with both the optimization and the overfitting issues, and about deep learning actually work Because there is no external taecher in unsupervised learning, it is really crucial to increase the entropy which can be done by redundancies in the data.
  
  source: <https://metacademy.org/graphs/concepts/unsupervised_pre_training>
  
  
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