Body: <p>In the Saemisch King's Indian</p>
  
  <pre><code>[FEN ""]
  [StartPly "10"]
  
  1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. f3 O-O 
  </code></pre>
  
  <p>It seems current (2017) literature and practice promotes Black's play 6...c5.  What I am wondering is there something wrong with the Panno (6...Nc6 with a6, Rb8, b5) that got players to move to 6...c5 or is it just the current trend?</p>
  
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Comments.Text: Are you asking about the Saemisch or about the Panno variation? They are two different lines, in particular the latter arises from the fianchetto against the King's Indian, whereas the former doesn't.
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Comments.Text: @GennaroTedesco no there is a Panno variation against the Saemisch System and also against the fianchetto variation
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Comments.Text: @GennaroTedesco The idea Nc6, a6, Rb8, b5 can also be played against the Sämisch. See https://chess.stackexchange.com/questions/9659/what-are-the-latest-ideas-for-black-against-the-samisch-kings-indian-defense/9664#9664
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Comments.Text: I wonder, is this question a possible duplicate of https://chess.stackexchange.com/questions/9659/what-are-the-latest-ideas-for-black-against-the-samisch-kings-indian-defense?
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Comments.Text: @Maxwell86 Of course you can technically play Nc6, a6, Rb8, b5 against anything in the world, that doesn't award it the name of "Panno variation" though.
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Comments.Text: @GennaroTedesco I don't know much about names of openings, but it seems that the OP and Don are correct by calling it the Panno variation, see wikipedia:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King%27s_Indian_Defence,_S%C3%A4misch_Variation#Panno_Variation:_6...Nc6
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Tags: <opening><kings-indian><saemisch>
Title: What is the state of the Panno variation of the King's Indian Defense Saemisch?
ThreadText: # What is the state of the Panno variation of the King's Indian Defense Saemisch?
  
  (Asked by: username_0 on 2017-11-08)
  
  In the Saemisch King's Indian
  [FEN ""]
  [StartPly "10"]
  
  1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. f3 O-O 
  
  It seems current (2017) literature and practice promotes Black's play 6...c5.  What I am wondering is there something wrong with the Panno (6...Nc6 with a6, Rb8, b5) that got players to move to 6...c5 or is it just the current trend?
  
  **Tags:** opening, kings-indian, saemisch
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_1**: Are you asking about the Saemisch or about the Panno variation? They are two different lines, in particular the latter arises from the fianchetto against the King's Indian, whereas the former doesn't.  
  > **username_2**: @GennaroTedesco no there is a Panno variation against the Saemisch System and also against the fianchetto variation  
  > **username_3**: @GennaroTedesco The idea Nc6, a6, Rb8, b5 can also be played against the Sämisch. See https://chess.stackexchange.com/questions/9659/what-are-the-latest-ideas-for-black-against-the-samisch-kings-indian-defense/9664#9664  
  > **username_3**: I wonder, is this question a possible duplicate of https://chess.stackexchange.com/questions/9659/what-are-the-latest-ideas-for-black-against-the-samisch-kings-indian-defense?  
  > **username_1**: @username_3 Of course you can technically play Nc6, a6, Rb8, b5 against anything in the world, that doesn't award it the name of "Panno variation" though.  
  > **username_3**: @GennaroTedesco I don't know much about names of openings, but it seems that the OP and username_2 are correct by calling it the Panno variation, see wikipedia:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King%27s_Indian_Defence,_S%C3%A4misch_Variation#Panno_Variation:_6...Nc6  
  
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