Answers.Body: <p>The plan for white is to <strong>secure the e5 square</strong>. Black's freeing maneuver will be to play f6, and the resulting position will have a backwards pawn on e6. Therefore, white's plan will be to place his bishop on f4 and move his knight to e5, perhaps with support along the e-file from a rook or queen.</p>
  
  <p>A possible variation could continue as follows:</p>
  
  <pre><code>rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1
  
  1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. e5 Nfd7 5. Nf3 c5 6. dxc5 Bxc5 7. Bd3 Nc6 8. Bf4 f6 9. exf6 Nxf6 10. O-O O-O 11. Ne5 Bd7 12. Qe2
  </code></pre>
  
  <p>Keep in mind that this isn't the only way of playing the Steinitz. White more commonly plays <code>5. f4</code>, bolstering his center pawn on e5 before continuing to develop with Nf3. Also, <code>6...Nc6</code> is considered a more accurate move for black, leaving the option of capturing on c5 for a later move and saving a tempo to attack the e5 square.</p>
  
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Answers.Text: thanks for the answer, if the match follows, who would win as seen [advantages good position], because from my game, white going to lose, and if I check your possible variation seem like my game too.. ^^
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Answers.Text: In either position it cannot be said who is winning or losing. It's an established variation that has been played in many games. Both sides have their advantages and disadvantages - white occupies the e5 square while black has a central pawn majority. It's up to the player to demonstrate to his or her opponent who has a superior understanding of the position.
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Answers.Text: sounds good. ok sir.. ^^.
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Answers.Body: <p>It may not hit the point of the post, but I would like to show you, how I like to play against e6. I play <code>Qh5</code> after <code>Nfd7</code>, because it is very aggressive and most of the players don't know how to play against it.</p>
  
  <pre>
  <code>
  [fen ""]
  1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. e5 Nfd7 5. Qh5 c5 6. Nf3
  </code>
  </pre>
  
  <p><code>cxd4 Nxd4</code> and now black has to be careful of <code>Nxe6</code></p>
  
  <p>You will play <code>Be3</code>, sometimes <code>Nb5</code>, often <code>0-0-0</code> to protect <code>d4</code> with your rock.</p>
  
  <p>You can also try to play <code>Ng5</code> with the opportunity to <code>Qxf7</code>. After <code>g6</code> you play <code>Qf3</code>.</p>
  
  <p><strong>Nxe5 variety</strong></p>
  
  <pre>
  <code>
  [fen ""]
  1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. e5 Nfd7 5. Qh5 c5 6. Nf3 cxd4 7. Nxd4 g6 8. Qg5 Qxg5 9. Bxg5 Nxe5 10. Bf6
  </code>
  </pre>
  
  <p><strong>Qb6 variety</strong></p>
  
  <pre>
  <code>
  [fen ""]
  1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. e5 Nfd7 5. Qh5 c5 6. Nf3 cxd4 7. Nxd4 Qb6 8. Ndb5 Nc6
  </code>
  </pre>
  
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Answers.Text: I disagree but not downvote. ^^. as I learn, Queen in early in just bad idea, black not to worry if you suggest `5. Qh5 c5 6. nf3 cxd4 7. Nxd4` or `5. Qh5 c5 6. nf3 cxd4 7. Ng5` since black can easily chase the Queen with `7. ... g6 8. ... Nxe5`. as @Andrew Ng says, the plan is to secure the `e5` square because in this case, black will control the center when seize `e5`. If you proposed `Be3` or `Nb5` or `O-O-O` to secure `d4`, it will be useless since black can reply with `Nc6` easily. Believe me, it hard to hold `e5` because White already over aggressive.
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Answers.Text: Again `Nc6` you can easily play `Bb5`. `Nxe5` is not really possible, if you play `g6`, I can retort with `Qg5`. `Qxg5` `Bxg5` and you can not play `Nxe5`, because of `Bf6`
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Answers.Text: oh my God. sorry for incomplete commenting. If you proposed `5. Qh5 c5 6. nf3 cxd4 7. Nxd4`, it will replied as `7. ... Qb6`, then the possible reply is `8. Nf6` so black can spawn ` 8. ... Nc6`. About `7. ... g6`, I proposed it when face `5. Qh5 c5 6. nf3 cxd4 7. Ng5`. About your `Bf6`, maybe we have different interpretation because in my calculation, Black take `e5` before White bishop came to `f6`. Thanks for appreciation.. ^^
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Answers.Text: @AhmadAzwarAnas please see my edited post
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Answers.Text: upvote for this time. thanks for the EDIT post, let me followed the `Qb6` variety since the `Nxe5` variety goes wrong for Black (I should take `9. ... a6` at `Nxe5` variety and not take the `e5` pawn too soon. Believe me, you succeeded to drag my Black Queen out. ^^) but I rather choose `8. ... Nc6` than `8. ... a6` in my Black reply at `Qb6` variety. As my view, `Nc6` always good move for Black, maybe you want propose the ninth move so I can analyst it later since `9. Be3` isn't longer proportional..
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Answers.Text: I changed the `Qb6` variety (From `a6` to `Nc6`). I think I have many possibilities now. I may need to sacrifice the pawn on `e5` for some initiative.
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Answers.Text: yeah, you are right, that was I think.. at last, we'll lost `e5` for some reason. That why as @Andrew Ng said, **secure the e5 square** is most toughest mission for White. And I already liked your `Qb6` variety.
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Body: <p>When playing C11 French/Steinitz, <code>6. dxc5 Bxc5</code> is chosen. Even in <a href="http://www.shredderchess.com/online-chess/online-databases/opening-database.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Shredder</a>, it's most played in C11 French/Steinitz. What should White best reply after <code>6. dxc5 Bxc5</code>??  </p>
  
  <pre><code>[FEN ""]
  1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. e5 Nfd7 5. Nf3 c5 6. dxc5 Bxc5
  </code></pre>
  
  <p>Best Regard, <br>
  Ahmad</p>
  
Tags: <analysis><french-defense>
Title: Reply for C11 French/Steinitz after `5. Nf3 c5`
ThreadText: # Reply for C11 French/Steinitz after `5. Nf3 c5`
  
  (Asked by: username_0 on 2013-07-11)
  
  When playing C11 French/Steinitz, 6. dxc5 Bxc5 is chosen. Even in Shredder, it's most played in C11 French/Steinitz. What should White best reply after 6. dxc5 Bxc5??  
  [FEN ""]
  1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. e5 Nfd7 5. Nf3 c5 6. dxc5 Bxc5
  
  Best Regard, 
  Ahmad
  
  **Tags:** analysis, french-defense
  
  
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  ## 2 answers
  
  ### Answer by username_1 on 2013-07-11. Score: 3 | Accepted answer
  
  The plan for white is to secure the e5 square. Black's freeing maneuver will be to play f6, and the resulting position will have a backwards pawn on e6. Therefore, white's plan will be to place his bishop on f4 and move his knight to e5, perhaps with support along the e-file from a rook or queen.
  A possible variation could continue as follows:
  rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1
  
  1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. e5 Nfd7 5. Nf3 c5 6. dxc5 Bxc5 7. Bd3 Nc6 8. Bf4 f6 9. exf6 Nxf6 10. O-O O-O 11. Ne5 Bd7 12. Qe2
  
  Keep in mind that this isn't the only way of playing the Steinitz. White more commonly plays 5. f4, bolstering his center pawn on e5 before continuing to develop with Nf3. Also, 6...Nc6 is considered a more accurate move for black, leaving the option of capturing on c5 for a later move and saving a tempo to attack the e5 square.
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_0**: thanks for the answer, if the match follows, who would win as seen [advantages good position], because from my game, white going to lose, and if I check your possible variation seem like my game too.. ^^  
  > **username_1**: In either position it cannot be said who is winning or losing. It's an established variation that has been played in many games. Both sides have their advantages and disadvantages - white occupies the e5 square while black has a central pawn majority. It's up to the player to demonstrate to his or her opponent who has a superior understanding of the position.  
  > **username_0**: sounds good. ok sir.. ^^.  
  
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  ### Answer by username_2 on 2013-07-19. Score: 3
  
  It may not hit the point of the post, but I would like to show you, how I like to play against e6. I play Qh5 after Nfd7, because it is very aggressive and most of the players don't know how to play against it.
  
  
  [fen ""]
  1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. e5 Nfd7 5. Qh5 c5 6. Nf3
  
  
  cxd4 Nxd4 and now black has to be careful of Nxe6
  You will play Be3, sometimes Nb5, often 0-0-0 to protect d4 with your rock.
  You can also try to play Ng5 with the opportunity to Qxf7. After g6 you play Qf3.
  Nxe5 variety
  
  
  [fen ""]
  1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. e5 Nfd7 5. Qh5 c5 6. Nf3 cxd4 7. Nxd4 g6 8. Qg5 Qxg5 9. Bxg5 Nxe5 10. Bf6
  
  
  Qb6 variety
  
  
  [fen ""]
  1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. e5 Nfd7 5. Qh5 c5 6. Nf3 cxd4 7. Nxd4 Qb6 8. Ndb5 Nc6
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_0**: I disagree but not downvote. ^^. as I learn, Queen in early in just bad idea, black not to worry if you suggest `5. Qh5 c5 6. nf3 cxd4 7. Nxd4` or `5. Qh5 c5 6. nf3 cxd4 7. Ng5` since black can easily chase the Queen with `7. ... g6 8. ... Nxe5`. as @username_1 says, the plan is to secure the `e5` square because in this case, black will control the center when seize `e5`. If you proposed `Be3` or `Nb5` or `O-O-O` to secure `d4`, it will be useless since black can reply with `Nc6` easily. Believe me, it hard to hold `e5` because White already over aggressive.  
  > **username_2**: Again `Nc6` you can easily play `Bb5`. `Nxe5` is not really possible, if you play `g6`, I can retort with `Qg5`. `Qxg5` `Bxg5` and you can not play `Nxe5`, because of `Bf6`  
  > **username_0**: oh my God. sorry for incomplete commenting. If you proposed `5. Qh5 c5 6. nf3 cxd4 7. Nxd4`, it will replied as `7. ... Qb6`, then the possible reply is `8. Nf6` so black can spawn ` 8. ... Nc6`. About `7. ... g6`, I proposed it when face `5. Qh5 c5 6. nf3 cxd4 7. Ng5`. About your `Bf6`, maybe we have different interpretation because in my calculation, Black take `e5` before White bishop came to `f6`. Thanks for appreciation.. ^^  
  > **username_2**: @AhmadAzwarAnas please see my edited post  
  > **username_0**: upvote for this time. thanks for the EDIT post, let me followed the `Qb6` variety since the `Nxe5` variety goes wrong for Black (I should take `9. ... a6` at `Nxe5` variety and not take the `e5` pawn too soon. Believe me, you succeeded to drag my Black Queen out. ^^) but I rather choose `8. ... Nc6` than `8. ... a6` in my Black reply at `Qb6` variety. As my view, `Nc6` always good move for Black, maybe you want propose the ninth move so I can analyst it later since `9. Be3` isn't longer proportional..  
  > **username_2**: I changed the `Qb6` variety (From `a6` to `Nc6`). I think I have many possibilities now. I may need to sacrifice the pawn on `e5` for some initiative.  
  > **username_0**: yeah, you are right, that was I think.. at last, we'll lost `e5` for some reason. That why as @username_1 said, **secure the e5 square** is most toughest mission for White. And I already liked your `Qb6` variety.  
  
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