Body: <p>In two games quite different games that I played recently, I was playing white and had a very nice centre, but according to the engine I misjudged pushing (or not pushing) my d-pawn both times.</p>
  <p>From my understanding of pawn structures, I could aim for a KID-type position by pushing d4-d5, or allow black to take on d4 for a Maroczy pawn structure. My question is simply how can I practically understand which is better?</p>
  <pre><code>[FEN &quot;&quot;]
  [Event &quot;Rated Rapid game&quot;]
  [Date &quot;2022.01.20&quot;]
  [Result &quot;0-1&quot;]
  [WhiteElo &quot;2053&quot;]
  [BlackElo &quot;2025&quot;]
  [TimeControl &quot;900+10&quot;]
  [Termination &quot;Normal&quot;]
  [UTCDate &quot;2022.01.21&quot;]
  [UTCTime &quot;07:12:31&quot;]
  [Variant &quot;Standard&quot;]
  [ECO &quot;C41&quot;]
  [Opening &quot;Philidor Defense: Hanham Variation&quot;]
  
  1. e4 { [%clk 0:15:00] } 1... d6 { [%clk 0:15:00] } 2. Nf3 { [%clk 0:15:06] } 2... Nd7 { [%clk 0:15:05] } 3. d4 { [%clk 0:15:15] } 3... e5 { [%clk 0:15:08] } 4. d5 { [%clk 0:15:12] } 4... Ngf6 { [%clk 0:15:10] } 5. Bd3 { [%clk 0:15:18] } 5... Nc5 { [%clk 0:15:14] } 6. Qe2 { [%clk 0:15:13] } 6... Be7 { [%clk 0:15:16] } 7. b4 { [%clk 0:15:15] } 7... Nxd3+ { [%clk 0:15:19] } 8. Qxd3 { [%clk 0:15:24] } 8... a5 { [%clk 0:15:21] } 9. bxa5 { [%clk 0:14:29] } 9... Rxa5 { [%clk 0:15:21] } 10. c4 { [%clk 0:14:34] } 10... Bd7 { [%clk 0:15:21] } 11. h3 { [%clk 0:14:37] } 11... Qa8 { [%clk 0:15:28] } 12. Nc3 { [%clk 0:14:28] } 12... O-O { [%clk 0:15:04] } 13. O-O { [%clk 0:14:34] } 13... b6 { [%clk 0:14:57] } 0-1
  
  </code></pre>
  <p>(This was bad for white)</p>
  <pre><code>[FEN &quot;&quot;]
  [Event &quot;Rated Classical game&quot;]
  [Result &quot;1-0&quot;]
  [WhiteElo &quot;2024&quot;]
  [BlackElo &quot;1886&quot;]
  [TimeControl &quot;1800+0&quot;]
  [Termination &quot;Normal&quot;]
  [UTCDate &quot;2022.01.21&quot;]
  [UTCTime &quot;07:15:07&quot;]
  [Variant &quot;Standard&quot;]
  [ECO &quot;E90&quot;]
  [Opening &quot;King's Indian Defense: Normal Variation, Rare Defenses&quot;]
  
  1. d4 { [%eval 0.3] [%clk 0:30:00] } 1... Nf6 { [%eval 0.0] [%clk 0:30:00] } 2. c4 { [%eval 0.23] [%clk 0:29:59] } 2... d6 { [%eval 0.51] [%clk 0:30:00] } 3. Nc3 { [%eval 0.65] [%clk 0:29:56] } 3... g6 { [%eval 0.53] [%clk 0:30:00] } 4. e4 { [%eval 0.68] [%clk 0:29:54] } 4... Bg7 { [%eval 0.59] [%clk 0:30:00] } 5. Nf3 { [%eval 0.7] [%clk 0:29:48] } 5... O-O { [%eval 0.48] [%clk 0:29:59] } 6. h3 { [%eval 0.32] [%clk 0:29:39] } 6... c5?! { [%eval 0.89] } { Inaccuracy. e5 was best. } { [%clk 0:29:58] } (6... e5 7. d5 Nh5 8. g3 f5 9. exf5 gxf5 10. Ng5 Nf6 11. g4) 7. Be3 { [%eval 0.72] [%clk 0:28:50] } 7... Nc6?! { [%eval 1.37] } { Inaccuracy. Qa5 was best. } { [%clk 0:29:44] } (7... Qa5 8. Bd3 cxd4 9. Nxd4 Nc6 10. O-O Be6 11. Be2 Nxd4 12. Bxd4) 8. Be2?! { [%eval 0.45] } { Inaccuracy. d5 was best. } { [%clk 0:28:36] } (8. d5 Na5 9. Be2 b6 10. Qc2 e6 11. O-O e5 12. Nh2 Ne8) 8... cxd4 { [%eval 0.87] [%clk 0:29:42] } 9. Nxd4 { [%eval 0.83] [%clk 0:28:35] } 1-0
  </code></pre>
  <p>(This was fine for white, but apparently pushing d4-d5 as annotated was better).</p>
  
Tags: <pawns><pawn-structure>
Title: When should white prefer a Maroczy structure vs. a Kings Indian structure?
ThreadText: # When should white prefer a Maroczy structure vs. a Kings Indian structure?
  
  (Asked by: username_0 on 2022-01-21)
  
  In two games quite different games that I played recently, I was playing white and had a very nice centre, but according to the engine I misjudged pushing (or not pushing) my d-pawn both times.
  From my understanding of pawn structures, I could aim for a KID-type position by pushing d4-d5, or allow black to take on d4 for a Maroczy pawn structure. My question is simply how can I practically understand which is better?
  [FEN ""]
  [Event "Rated Rapid game"]
  [Date "2022.01.20"]
  [Result "0-1"]
  [WhiteElo "2053"]
  [BlackElo "2025"]
  [TimeControl "900+10"]
  [Termination "Normal"]
  [UTCDate "2022.01.21"]
  [UTCTime "07:12:31"]
  [Variant "Standard"]
  [ECO "C41"]
  [Opening "Philidor Defense: Hanham Variation"]
  
  1. e4 { [%clk 0:15:00] } 1... d6 { [%clk 0:15:00] } 2. Nf3 { [%clk 0:15:06] } 2... Nd7 { [%clk 0:15:05] } 3. d4 { [%clk 0:15:15] } 3... e5 { [%clk 0:15:08] } 4. d5 { [%clk 0:15:12] } 4... Ngf6 { [%clk 0:15:10] } 5. Bd3 { [%clk 0:15:18] } 5... Nc5 { [%clk 0:15:14] } 6. Qe2 { [%clk 0:15:13] } 6... Be7 { [%clk 0:15:16] } 7. b4 { [%clk 0:15:15] } 7... Nxd3+ { [%clk 0:15:19] } 8. Qxd3 { [%clk 0:15:24] } 8... a5 { [%clk 0:15:21] } 9. bxa5 { [%clk 0:14:29] } 9... Rxa5 { [%clk 0:15:21] } 10. c4 { [%clk 0:14:34] } 10... Bd7 { [%clk 0:15:21] } 11. h3 { [%clk 0:14:37] } 11... Qa8 { [%clk 0:15:28] } 12. Nc3 { [%clk 0:14:28] } 12... O-O { [%clk 0:15:04] } 13. O-O { [%clk 0:14:34] } 13... b6 { [%clk 0:14:57] } 0-1
  
  
  (This was bad for white)
  [FEN ""]
  [Event "Rated Classical game"]
  [Result "1-0"]
  [WhiteElo "2024"]
  [BlackElo "1886"]
  [TimeControl "1800+0"]
  [Termination "Normal"]
  [UTCDate "2022.01.21"]
  [UTCTime "07:15:07"]
  [Variant "Standard"]
  [ECO "E90"]
  [Opening "King's Indian Defense: Normal Variation, Rare Defenses"]
  
  1. d4 { [%eval 0.3] [%clk 0:30:00] } 1... Nf6 { [%eval 0.0] [%clk 0:30:00] } 2. c4 { [%eval 0.23] [%clk 0:29:59] } 2... d6 { [%eval 0.51] [%clk 0:30:00] } 3. Nc3 { [%eval 0.65] [%clk 0:29:56] } 3... g6 { [%eval 0.53] [%clk 0:30:00] } 4. e4 { [%eval 0.68] [%clk 0:29:54] } 4... Bg7 { [%eval 0.59] [%clk 0:30:00] } 5. Nf3 { [%eval 0.7] [%clk 0:29:48] } 5... O-O { [%eval 0.48] [%clk 0:29:59] } 6. h3 { [%eval 0.32] [%clk 0:29:39] } 6... c5?! { [%eval 0.89] } { Inaccuracy. e5 was best. } { [%clk 0:29:58] } (6... e5 7. d5 Nh5 8. g3 f5 9. exf5 gxf5 10. Ng5 Nf6 11. g4) 7. Be3 { [%eval 0.72] [%clk 0:28:50] } 7... Nc6?! { [%eval 1.37] } { Inaccuracy. Qa5 was best. } { [%clk 0:29:44] } (7... Qa5 8. Bd3 cxd4 9. Nxd4 Nc6 10. O-O Be6 11. Be2 Nxd4 12. Bxd4) 8. Be2?! { [%eval 0.45] } { Inaccuracy. d5 was best. } { [%clk 0:28:36] } (8. d5 Na5 9. Be2 b6 10. Qc2 e6 11. O-O e5 12. Nh2 Ne8) 8... cxd4 { [%eval 0.87] [%clk 0:29:42] } 9. Nxd4 { [%eval 0.83] [%clk 0:28:35] } 1-0
  
  (This was fine for white, but apparently pushing d4-d5 as annotated was better).
  
  **Tags:** pawns, pawn-structure
  
  
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