Answers.Body: <p>There is also the gambit from the game Capablanca-Alekhine (St Petersburg, 1914), but it's not very good.</p>
  <pre><code>[fen &quot;&quot;]
  
  1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5 h6 (4...Be7;4...Bb4) 5. Bxf6 Qxf6 6. exd5 Bb4 7. Bb5+ (7. Bb5+ Bd7! 8. Bxd7+ Nxd7 9. dxe6 Qxe6+ 10. Qe2 Bxc3+ 11. bxc3 Qxe2+ 12. Nxe2 O-O-O) 
  </code></pre>
  <p>The check is annoying. If black could castle without disturbance, this gambit would perhaps be playable.</p>
  <p><strong>Update 10 years later:</strong> Strong players have found the line <code>7... Bd7! 8. Bxd7+ Nxd7 9. dxe6 Qxe6+ 10. Qe2 Bxc3+ 11. bxc3 Qxe2+ 12. Nxe2 O-O-O </code>, which makes this gambit very playable for black!</p>
  <hr />
  <p>I have thought about using the same idea one move later</p>
  <pre><code>[fen &quot;&quot;]
  
  1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 a6 4. Nf3 Nf6 5. Bg5 h6!?
  </code></pre>
  <p>but I'm not sure about it, and besides white has too many options before reaching this position.</p>
  
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Answers.Body: <p>I am a 2210 FIDE-rated player and I have played the French defence in tournaments as a primary defence to 1. e4 since I was a child. Although you may find gambit lines on the Black side in some variations (as many good answers here have shown), you will not be able to play such gambits unless White is cooperative and willing to play against them. The fact is just that there exist rather few reputable gambits for Black in the orthodox openings - the Marshall gambit in the Ruy Lupez being one of the exceptions. If you are a tactical player and like to sacrifice material, I recommend that instead of looking for questionable gambits, you aim for dynamic positions where tactical manuevers and sacrifices are likely to be an option in the middle game. The Flexible French by Moskalenko is a good reference.</p>
  
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Answers.Text: Thanks Sid. I feel gambits are always a gamble!? So I guess they may or may not be reputable. I am learning the French with both colours and as I already stated there are several seemingly good gambits for White to play in the French. Most top GM's I guess don't gamble on gambits but play classical main line openings. It seems there is much less scope for Black in the French to attempt a known gambit instead black should try and know how to play against any of the French white gambits. Thanks for your advice and gl  with your chess and particularly French defence games. Allez la francais!?
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Answers.Body: <p>Here is one line:</p>
  
  <pre><code>[fen ""]
  1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5 Be7 5. e5 Nfd7 6. h4 c5 7. Bxe7 Qxe7 8. Nb5 O-O 9. Nc7 Nc6 10. Nxa8 cxd4
  </code></pre>
  
  <p>Black has castled, and is pretty well developed, while the white king is still in the center, and white does not have one normally developed piece. You probably won't find many games with professionals playing the line, but here is one interesting draw with Nigel Short handling the black pieces:</p>
  
  <pre><code>[fen ""]
  [Event "Bunratty Masters"]
  [Site "Bunratty"]
  [Date "2011.02.26"]
  [Round "2"]
  [White "Hunt, Adam"]
  [Black "Short, Nigel D"]
  [Result "1/2-1/2"]
  [WhiteElo "2436"]
  [BlackElo "2658"]
  [ECO "C14"]
  [EventDate "2011.02.25"]
  [PlyCount "142"]
  [SourceDate "2011.05.03"]
  
  1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bg5 Be7 5.e5 Nfd7 6.h4 c5 7.Bxe7 Qxe7 8.Nb5 
  O-O 9.Nc7 Nc6 10.Nxa8 cxd4 11.Nf3 Qb4+ 12.Qd2 Qxb2 13.Rd1 Nc5 14.Bd3 Bd7 
  15.Nc7 Rc8 16.Nxd5 exd5 17.O-O a6 18.Qf4 h6 19.Rb1 Qc3 20.Rfd1 b5 21.Kh2 
  Re8 22.g4 Ne4 23.Bxe4 dxe4 24.Qxe4 Qc5 25.Re1 Be6 26.Rbd1 Bd5 27.Qd3 Bxf3 
  28.Qxf3 Nxe5 29.Qe4 Re6 30.Qa8+ Kh7 31.Qe4+ g6 32.Kg2 Qc3 33.Qf4 Qc6+ 34.
  Qe4 Nd3 35.cxd3 Rxe4 36.dxe4 Qe6 37.Rxd4 Qxg4+ 38.Kf1 Qxh4 39.Re3 Kg7 40.
  Rd7 Qh1+ 41.Ke2 Qc1 42.e5 Qc2+ 43.Kf1 Qc4+ 44.Ke1 Qe6 45.Rd6 Qxa2 46.e6 
  Qb1+ 47.Ke2 Qc2+ 48.Kf1 Qc4+ 49.Kg2 fxe6 50.Rexe6 Qg4+ 51.Kf1 h5 52.Rxa6 
  h4 53.Re7+ Kh6 54.Re3 h3 55.Raa3 Qg2+ 56.Ke2 h2 57.Rh3+ Kg7 58.Ra7+ Kg8 
  59.Rah7 Qe4+ 60.Kd2 Qd4+ 61.Ke2 g5 62.R7h5 Qe4+ 63.Kd2 Qf4+ 64.Ke2 b4 65.
  Rh8+ Kf7 66.Rf3 Kg7 67.Rfh3 Qe4+ 68.Kd2 Qd4+ 69.Kc2 Qxf2+ 70.Kb3 Qd4 71.
  R3h7+ Kg6 1/2-1/2
  </code></pre>
  
  <p>Black might be better of by playing <code>9...cxd4</code> instead of <code>9...Nc6</code>, For example: Bronstein - Stahlberg:</p>
  
  <pre><code>[fen ""]
  [Event "Budapest Candidates"]
  [Site "Budapest, HUN"]
  [Date "1950.04.24"]
  [EventDate "1950.??.??"]
  [Round "8"]
  [Result "0-1"]
  [White "David Bronstein"]
  [Black "Gideon Stahlberg"]
  [ECO "C13"]
  [WhiteElo "?"]
  [BlackElo "?"]
  [PlyCount "92"]
  
  1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5 Be7 5. e5 Nfd7 6. h4 c5
  7. Bxe7 Qxe7 8. Nb5 O-O 9. Nc7 cxd4 10. Nxa8 f6 11. Qxd4 Nc6
  12. Qd2 fxe5 13. O-O-O Nf6 14. f3 Qd6 15. Ne2 Bd7 16. Nc3 Rxa8
  17. Ne4 Qe7 18. Nxf6+ Qxf6 19. Bb5 Nb8 20. Qb4 Bxb5 21. Qxb5
  Qf7 22. c4 Nc6 23. cxd5 Nd4 24. Qd3 exd5 25. Rhf1 Qf4+ 26. Kb1
  Rd8 27. g3 Qxg3 28. f4 Qxd3+ 29. Rxd3 Nc6 30. fxe5 Nxe5
  31. Rd4 Nc6 32. Rdf4 Ne5 33. Rf5 Nc4 34. R1f2 d4 35. b3 d3
  36. bxc4 d2 37. Rxd2 Rxd2 38. Rb5 b6 39. Re5 Rd4 40. c5 Rxh4
  41. Re8+ Kf7 42. Ra8 Rb4+ 43. Ka1 bxc5 44. Rxa7+ Kf6 45. Ra5
  g5 46. Rxc5 g4 0-1
  </code></pre>
  
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Answers.Text: @MarcusJuniusBrutus 19...Nb8 is indeed very deep (maybe too deep to be good), but not pointless. I think the Knight is important to control the dark squares in the center, and especially to protect e5 and keep flexibility in the center. After say 19...Rc8 20.Bc6 Bc6 (or bc6) 21. Rhe1 Pe5 is a headache: 21...h6 22.Qe3 and White looks better. Meanwhile, the bishop for bishop exchange is not bad for Black: at move 25 the Nd4 is already dominant!
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Answers.Text: Very interesting. Visually, I thought this looked horrible for Black. And objectively it probably is pretty bad, but there's more to it than I thought. I went looking for games in this line, and found mostly amateurs playing it. But I did find an interesting game where Nigel Short tried it out against a 2400-something player (which ended in a draw). I'm going to add that game to your answer; feel free to remove it if you don't like the addition.
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Answers.Text: @Ed Dean, Thanks a lot for the edit, of course it helps my post. I also think that maybe black is better of by playing `9...cxd4` instead of `9...Nc6`.
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Answers.Text: I totally don't get 19...Nb8. Why is Black shying away from a likely favorable Bishop-Knight exchange?
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Answers.Body: <p>There is a pawn sacrifice in the shown c5 line of the Tarrasch variation. Normally, it's temporary and black gets the c5 pawn back, but white can try to hang to it with moves like Nb3, Be3, ... although it's unlikely the best way to play the opening.</p>
  
  <pre><code>[FEN ""]
  1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nd2 c5 4. exd5 exd5 5. Bb5+ Nc6 6. Qe2+ Be7 7. dxc5
  </code></pre>
  
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Answers.Body: <p>My opponent played the following gambit against me in a correspondence game:</p>
  
  <pre><code>[FEN ""]
  
  1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 dxe4 4.Nxe4 Nd7 5.Bd3 Ngf6 6.Qe2 c5 7.Nxf6+ Nxf6 8.dxc5 Bxc5 9.Nf3 O-O 10.Bg5 e5 
  </code></pre>
  
  <p>I accepted the gambit 11.Nxe5 and he continued 11...Re8.  After 12. O-O-O Qb6 and a lot of analysis I followed the narrow path to an easy game:  13.Bc4 Be6 14.Bxf6 Bxc4 15.Qxc4 Qxf6 16.Nxf7 Qxf7 17.Qxc5 Qxa2 18.Qd5+ Qxd5 19.Rxd5.  Over the board it would have been easy for me to miss.</p>
  
  <p>Stockfish gives 11...Qa5 as a better try, but then I think black will be playing for a draw.  </p>
  
  <p>Of course, like Sid mentioned in general, this is only a gambit if white plays it.  Chess engines show castling as a better choice.</p>
  
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Answers.Body: <p>There is one line where black sacrifices a piee for two pawns and a strong attack:</p>
  <pre><code>[FEN &quot;&quot;]
  1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. e5 Nfd7 5. f4 c5 6. Nf3 Nc6 7. Be3 Qb6 8. Na4 Qa5+ 9. c3 c4 10. b4!?  Nxb4!? 
  </code></pre>
  <p>On the plus side black gets 2 pawns, a covered free pawn on c4 and a lasting attack on the queen side, which can be reinforced with the remaining queenside pawns. In addition the white white squared bishop is hampered a bit because it can't get to d3.</p>
  <p>On the other hand, being down a piece is being down a piece and there is no forced way to get it back any time soon.</p>
  
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Answers.Body: <p>When I was younger I used to investigate lines like :</p>
  
  <pre><code>[FEN ""]
  1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 c5 4. exd5 exd5 5. dxc5 d4 6. Bb5+ Nc6 7. Bxc6+ bxc6 8.Ne4 Ba6 
  </code></pre>
  
  <p>My conclusion was that Black have some nice ideas but not full compensation</p>
  
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Answers.Body: <p>There's the Poisoned Pawn variation of the Winawer:</p>
  
  <pre><code>[fen ""]
  
  1. e4 e6
  2. d4 d5
  3. Nc3 Bb4
  4. e5 c5
  5. a3 Bxc3+
  6. bxc3 Ne7
  7. Qg4 Qc7
  8. Qxg7 Rg8
  9. Qxh7 cxd4
  </code></pre>
  
  <p>In general, though, it's hard to find a good pawn for Black to give away in the French.</p>
  
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Answers.Text: Thanks...I'd forgotten about the Winawer poisoned pawn mainly because I very rarely play the Winawer with either color. It is quite exciting gambit chess so perhaps I ought to check it out. Also my searches so far have found other White Gambits in French eg Reti Gambit/Wing Gambit/Wincklemann-Riemer Gambit but as you say there is not much scope for black gambits. How about the St George defence with 1.e4 e6 2.d4 a6!?
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Body: <p>I play the French defence with both colours (white and black) and generally play any of the orthodox main line openings (there are many eg Advance, Exchange, Classical,Tarrasch etc giving rise to many variations as openings and defence variation eg early ...Qb6 Wade var.). </p>
  
  <p>There are some gambit openings from the White side and as white I often play the Milner-Barry Gambit and have started to reacquaint myself with the Alapin-Diemer (I sometimes face the MBG as black). So far though I have not encountered a gambit line for the black side in the French and so wonder if there are any such playable black French gambit opening lines?</p>
  
  <p>If anyone knows one or more I'd be interested to hear.
  I look forward to replies and comments, but meanwhile I will keep searching myself to find such a gambit for black in the French defence opening.....</p>
  
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Comments.Text: I see you mention St George below. Basman himself has played the gambit `1.e4 e6 2.d4 b5!?`
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Comments.Text: Hi & thanks for this comment and your answer below also-that's interesting 2...b5?! I'm going to see if I can find Basman games with this line..so far in my DBase I have:Lassan, Christian-Herbold, Manfred Frydek Mistek Alpress Cup 0-1 Frydek Mistek Round 7 2005 03 27
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Title: Are there known opening gambit lines for black in the French defence?
ThreadText: # Are there known opening gambit lines for black in the French defence?
  
  (Asked by: username_0 on 2013-10-09)
  
  I play the French defence with both colours (white and black) and generally play any of the orthodox main line openings (there are many eg Advance, Exchange, Classical,Tarrasch etc giving rise to many variations as openings and defence variation eg early ...Qb6 Wade var.).
  
  There are some gambit openings from the White side and as white I often play the Milner-Barry Gambit and have started to reacquaint myself with the Alapin-Diemer (I sometimes face the MBG as black). So far though I have not encountered a gambit line for the black side in the French and so wonder if there are any such playable black French gambit opening lines?
  
  If anyone knows one or more I'd be interested to hear.
  I look forward to replies and comments, but meanwhile I will keep searching myself to find such a gambit for black in the French defence opening.....
  
  **Tags:** opening, french-defense, defense
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_1**: I see you mention St George below. Basman himself has played the gambit `1.e4 e6 2.d4 b5!?`  
  > **username_0**: Hi & thanks for this comment and your answer below also-that's interesting 2...b5?! I'm going to see if I can find Basman games with this line..so far in my DBase I have:Lassan, Christian-Herbold, Manfred Frydek Mistek Alpress Cup 0-1 Frydek Mistek Round 7 2005 03 27  
  
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  ## 8 answers
  
  ### Answer by username_10 on 2013-10-09. Score: 12 | Accepted answer
  
  There's the Poisoned Pawn variation of the Winawer:
  [fen ""]
  
  1. e4 e6
  2. d4 d5
  3. Nc3 Bb4
  4. e5 c5
  5. a3 Bxc3+
  6. bxc3 Ne7
  7. Qg4 Qc7
  8. Qxg7 Rg8
  9. Qxh7 cxd4
  
  In general, though, it's hard to find a good pawn for Black to give away in the French.
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_0**: Thanks...I'd forgotten about the Winawer poisoned pawn mainly because I very rarely play the Winawer with either color. It is quite exciting gambit chess so perhaps I ought to check it out. Also my searches so far have found other White Gambits in French eg Reti Gambit/Wing Gambit/Wincklemann-Riemer Gambit but as you say there is not much scope for black gambits. How about the St George defence with 1.e4 e6 2.d4 a6!?  
  
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  ### Answer by username_1 on 2013-10-09. Score: 8
  
  There is also the gambit from the game Capablanca-Alekhine (St Petersburg, 1914), but it's not very good.
  [fen ""]
  
  1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5 h6 (4...Be7;4...Bb4) 5. Bxf6 Qxf6 6. exd5 Bb4 7. Bb5+ (7. Bb5+ Bd7! 8. Bxd7+ Nxd7 9. dxe6 Qxe6+ 10. Qe2 Bxc3+ 11. bxc3 Qxe2+ 12. Nxe2 O-O-O) 
  
  The check is annoying. If black could castle without disturbance, this gambit would perhaps be playable.
  Update 10 years later: Strong players have found the line 7... Bd7! 8. Bxd7+ Nxd7 9. dxe6 Qxe6+ 10. Qe2 Bxc3+ 11. bxc3 Qxe2+ 12. Nxe2 O-O-O , which makes this gambit very playable for black!
  
  I have thought about using the same idea one move later
  [fen ""]
  
  1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 a6 4. Nf3 Nf6 5. Bg5 h6!?
  
  but I'm not sure about it, and besides white has too many options before reaching this position.
  
  
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  ### Answer by username_2 on 2013-10-15. Score: 6
  
  I am a 2210 FIDE-rated player and I have played the French defence in tournaments as a primary defence to 1. e4 since I was a child. Although you may find gambit lines on the Black side in some variations (as many good answers here have shown), you will not be able to play such gambits unless White is cooperative and willing to play against them. The fact is just that there exist rather few reputable gambits for Black in the orthodox openings - the Marshall gambit in the Ruy Lupez being one of the exceptions. If you are a tactical player and like to sacrifice material, I recommend that instead of looking for questionable gambits, you aim for dynamic positions where tactical manuevers and sacrifices are likely to be an option in the middle game. The Flexible French by Moskalenko is a good reference.
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_0**: Thanks username_2. I feel gambits are always a gamble!? So I guess they may or may not be reputable. I am learning the French with both colours and as I already stated there are several seemingly good gambits for White to play in the French. Most top GM's I guess don't gamble on gambits but play classical main line openings. It seems there is much less scope for Black in the French to attempt a known gambit instead black should try and know how to play against any of the French white gambits. Thanks for your advice and gl  with your chess and particularly French defence games. Allez la francais!?  
  
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  ### Answer by username_3 on 2013-10-11. Score: 6
  
  Here is one line:
  [fen ""]
  1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5 Be7 5. e5 Nfd7 6. h4 c5 7. Bxe7 Qxe7 8. Nb5 O-O 9. Nc7 Nc6 10. Nxa8 cxd4
  
  Black has castled, and is pretty well developed, while the white king is still in the center, and white does not have one normally developed piece. You probably won't find many games with professionals playing the line, but here is one interesting draw with Nigel Short handling the black pieces:
  [fen ""]
  [Event "Bunratty Masters"]
  [Site "Bunratty"]
  [Date "2011.02.26"]
  [Round "2"]
  [White "Hunt, Adam"]
  [Black "Short, Nigel D"]
  [Result "1/2-1/2"]
  [WhiteElo "2436"]
  [BlackElo "2658"]
  [ECO "C14"]
  [EventDate "2011.02.25"]
  [PlyCount "142"]
  [SourceDate "2011.05.03"]
  
  1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bg5 Be7 5.e5 Nfd7 6.h4 c5 7.Bxe7 Qxe7 8.Nb5 
  O-O 9.Nc7 Nc6 10.Nxa8 cxd4 11.Nf3 Qb4+ 12.Qd2 Qxb2 13.Rd1 Nc5 14.Bd3 Bd7 
  15.Nc7 Rc8 16.Nxd5 exd5 17.O-O a6 18.Qf4 h6 19.Rb1 Qc3 20.Rfd1 b5 21.Kh2 
  Re8 22.g4 Ne4 23.Bxe4 dxe4 24.Qxe4 Qc5 25.Re1 Be6 26.Rbd1 Bd5 27.Qd3 Bxf3 
  28.Qxf3 Nxe5 29.Qe4 Re6 30.Qa8+ Kh7 31.Qe4+ g6 32.Kg2 Qc3 33.Qf4 Qc6+ 34.
  Qe4 Nd3 35.cxd3 Rxe4 36.dxe4 Qe6 37.Rxd4 Qxg4+ 38.Kf1 Qxh4 39.Re3 Kg7 40.
  Rd7 Qh1+ 41.Ke2 Qc1 42.e5 Qc2+ 43.Kf1 Qc4+ 44.Ke1 Qe6 45.Rd6 Qxa2 46.e6 
  Qb1+ 47.Ke2 Qc2+ 48.Kf1 Qc4+ 49.Kg2 fxe6 50.Rexe6 Qg4+ 51.Kf1 h5 52.Rxa6 
  h4 53.Re7+ Kh6 54.Re3 h3 55.Raa3 Qg2+ 56.Ke2 h2 57.Rh3+ Kg7 58.Ra7+ Kg8 
  59.Rah7 Qe4+ 60.Kd2 Qd4+ 61.Ke2 g5 62.R7h5 Qe4+ 63.Kd2 Qf4+ 64.Ke2 b4 65.
  Rh8+ Kf7 66.Rf3 Kg7 67.Rfh3 Qe4+ 68.Kd2 Qd4+ 69.Kc2 Qxf2+ 70.Kb3 Qd4 71.
  R3h7+ Kg6 1/2-1/2
  
  Black might be better of by playing 9...cxd4 instead of 9...Nc6, For example: Bronstein - Stahlberg:
  [fen ""]
  [Event "Budapest Candidates"]
  [Site "Budapest, HUN"]
  [Date "1950.04.24"]
  [EventDate "1950.??.??"]
  [Round "8"]
  [Result "0-1"]
  [White "username_8 Bronstein"]
  [Black "Gideon Stahlberg"]
  [ECO "C13"]
  [WhiteElo "?"]
  [BlackElo "?"]
  [PlyCount "92"]
  
  1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5 Be7 5. e5 Nfd7 6. h4 c5
  7. Bxe7 Qxe7 8. Nb5 O-O 9. Nc7 cxd4 10. Nxa8 f6 11. Qxd4 Nc6
  12. Qd2 fxe5 13. O-O-O Nf6 14. f3 Qd6 15. Ne2 Bd7 16. Nc3 Rxa8
  17. Ne4 Qe7 18. Nxf6+ Qxf6 19. Bb5 Nb8 20. Qb4 Bxb5 21. Qxb5
  Qf7 22. c4 Nc6 23. cxd5 Nd4 24. Qd3 exd5 25. Rhf1 Qf4+ 26. Kb1
  Rd8 27. g3 Qxg3 28. f4 Qxd3+ 29. Rxd3 Nc6 30. fxe5 Nxe5
  31. Rd4 Nc6 32. Rdf4 Ne5 33. Rf5 Nc4 34. R1f2 d4 35. b3 d3
  36. bxc4 d2 37. Rxd2 Rxd2 38. Rb5 b6 39. Re5 Rd4 40. c5 Rxh4
  41. Re8+ Kf7 42. Ra8 Rb4+ 43. Ka1 bxc5 44. Rxa7+ Kf6 45. Ra5
  g5 46. Rxc5 g4 0-1
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_5**: Very interesting. Visually, I thought this looked horrible for Black. And objectively it probably is pretty bad, but there's more to it than I thought. I went looking for games in this line, and found mostly amateurs playing it. But I did find an interesting game where Nigel Short tried it out against a 2400-something player (which ended in a draw). I'm going to add that game to your answer; feel free to remove it if you don't like the addition.  
  > **username_3**: @Ed Dean, Thanks a lot for the edit, of course it helps my post. I also think that maybe black is better of by playing `9...cxd4` instead of `9...Nc6`.  
  > **username_6**: I totally don't get 19...Nb8. Why is Black shying away from a likely favorable Bishop-Knight exchange?  
  > **username_4**: @MarcusJuniusBrutus 19...Nb8 is indeed very deep (maybe too deep to be good), but not pointless. I think the Knight is important to control the dark squares in the center, and especially to protect e5 and keep flexibility in the center. After say 19...Rc8 20.Bc6 Bc6 (or bc6) 21. Rhe1 Pe5 is a headache: 21...h6 22.Qe3 and White looks better. Meanwhile, the bishop for bishop exchange is not bad for Black: at move 25 the Nd4 is already dominant!  
  
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  ### Answer by username_7 on 2013-10-11. Score: 3
  
  There is a pawn sacrifice in the shown c5 line of the Tarrasch variation. Normally, it's temporary and black gets the c5 pawn back, but white can try to hang to it with moves like Nb3, Be3, ... although it's unlikely the best way to play the opening.
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  1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nd2 c5 4. exd5 exd5 5. Bb5+ Nc6 6. Qe2+ Be7 7. dxc5
  
  
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  ### Answer by username_8 on 2018-06-25. Score: 0
  
  My opponent played the following gambit against me in a correspondence game:
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  1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 dxe4 4.Nxe4 Nd7 5.Bd3 Ngf6 6.Qe2 c5 7.Nxf6+ Nxf6 8.dxc5 Bxc5 9.Nf3 O-O 10.Bg5 e5 
  
  I accepted the gambit 11.Nxe5 and he continued 11...Re8.  After 12. O-O-O Qb6 and a lot of analysis I followed the narrow path to an easy game:  13.Bc4 Be6 14.Bxf6 Bxc4 15.Qxc4 Qxf6 16.Nxf7 Qxf7 17.Qxc5 Qxa2 18.Qd5+ Qxd5 19.Rxd5.  Over the board it would have been easy for me to miss.
  Stockfish gives 11...Qa5 as a better try, but then I think black will be playing for a draw.  
  Of course, like username_2 mentioned in general, this is only a gambit if white plays it.  Chess engines show castling as a better choice.
  
  
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  ### Answer by username_9 on 2024-05-19. Score: 0
  
  There is one line where black sacrifices a piee for two pawns and a strong attack:
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  1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. e5 Nfd7 5. f4 c5 6. Nf3 Nc6 7. Be3 Qb6 8. Na4 Qa5+ 9. c3 c4 10. b4!?  Nxb4!? 
  
  On the plus side black gets 2 pawns, a covered free pawn on c4 and a lasting attack on the queen side, which can be reinforced with the remaining queenside pawns. In addition the white white squared bishop is hampered a bit because it can't get to d3.
  On the other hand, being down a piece is being down a piece and there is no forced way to get it back any time soon.
  
  
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  ### Answer by username_4 on 2017-12-05. Score: 0
  
  When I was younger I used to investigate lines like :
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  1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 c5 4. exd5 exd5 5. dxc5 d4 6. Bb5+ Nc6 7. Bxc6+ bxc6 8.Ne4 Ba6 
  
  My conclusion was that Black have some nice ideas but not full compensation
  
  
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