Answers.Body: <p>First, the question is not if 12. ...g5 13. Bxg5 hxg5 14. Nxg5 is dangerous, since white is just giving up a piece, and the tactics after 14...d4 are just winning for black (15.Ne6 is nothing since the Nf6 defends h7, and 15.Nh7, you can take on c3 since Nf6+ Qf6 is also nothing).</p>
  
  <p>The real question is what to do after 12...g5; 13.Bg3 d4; 14.Na4 or 13...Rc8. Stockfish indicates that it is roughly equal, but I would not want to weaken my k-side that much without knowing white's K was already castled k-side too, if at all.</p>
  
  <p>Lastly, with your isolated d5-pawn, you should be looking at d4 on every move to see it is a good time to push it.</p>
  
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Answers.Text: So, do you not think that by sacrificing a knight White does not get at least an interesting attack? If it were me the side defending such position, I would fear an attack with the queen. I know the computer says Black would stand better but I think there may exist some compensation.
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Answers.Text: @Maths64 Sorry, I just do not see it. The problem is that all the pieces want to go to h7, and you can't get the Bd3 out of the way, AND move the N off f6. It is only one or the other. In other lines, the K is able to run to f7 or f8, and flee. The only problem for black is being afraid of ghosts, but I have been a Master for 34 years, so I may just see things more easily, and deeply.
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Answers.Text: Ok. Thanks for your help!
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Answers.Body: <p>In this case it's tactical. d4 looks like a really strong move but the problem is after 12...d4 13. Bxf6 black has to play 13...gxf6 because 13...Qxf6 drops a piece to 14.Ne4. </p>
  
  <p>However, if you play 13...g5 first followed by d4, then d4 trades off the isolated pawn and equalizes for black. Black also has a little bit of an initiative going at that point. </p>
  
  <p>In general, you don't want to move the pawns in front of your king if you don't have to or unless it benefits you (like in this example). </p>
  
  <p>How to deal with pins? Study unpin combinations. There are a lot with sacs on f7/f2 and h7/h2. There are also some where the knight captures like Legal's mate or captures on d4/d5 sometimes winning a piece. </p>
  
  <p>You can also play actively. For example creating a threat with the queen and then moving the knight to a center square or just playing aggressively in general will sometimes make the pin meaningless. You also have to remember an early pin by the queen's bishop is usually bad. For one it leaves the b pawn unprotected but also if you haven't castled on that side he isn't really threatening anything. </p>
  
  <p>Lastly, if the opponent captures and doubles your pawns that's not always bad. For one, that means you have the two bishops and an open g-file which is typically the file right in front of the opponent's king. It depends on the position but it's not uncommon for your opponent to hand you a ferocious attack by capturing the knight. </p>
  
  <p>Just as an example, to illustrate some points, this is a game I see at least once a week in blitz: </p>
  
  <p>1. e4 e5 2. Bc4 d6 3. d4 exd4 4. Nf3 Bg4 5. c3 Nc6 6. Qb3 with a double attack on both b7 and f7. Black has a lot of ways to go wrong in this position and 6...Bxf3 (which leads to 7. Bxf7+, Ke7 or d7 8. Qe6#) is fairly common. </p>
  
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Body: <p>I am having trouble deciding whether a move such like g5 (g4 in case it is White) is worth it or not. I am looking for advice on my particular position and if possible, a general explanation for any other case.
  In the position below I was Black:</p>
  
  <p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/EzawL.jpg" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/EzawL.jpg" alt="enter image description here"></a></p>
  
  <p>I actually considered playing g5 during the game because the bishop on h4 is quite annoying as it is pinning my f6 knight.
  However, it is hard for me to understand how this move can be good if after 12. ...g5 13. Bxg5 hxg5 14. Nxg5 and that knight and the combo bishop and Queen is very threatening and both exerting pressure on the king.</p>
  
  <p>What is the reason to make such move? Personally, I would go with something like Be7.</p>
  
  <p>Thanks a lot before-handed. </p>
  
  <p>P.S. : The link to the game is <a href="https://i.sstatic.net/EzawL.jpg" rel="nofollow noreferrer">1</a></p>
  
  <p><a href="https://lichess.org/BBzc4Y46/black" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://lichess.org/BBzc4Y46/black</a> <a href="https://i.sstatic.net/EzawL.jpg" rel="nofollow noreferrer">1</a></p>
  
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Title: Weakening the kingside with g5
ThreadText: # Weakening the kingside with g5
  
  (Asked by: username_0 on 2019-08-16)
  
  I am having trouble deciding whether a move such like g5 (g4 in case it is White) is worth it or not. I am looking for advice on my particular position and if possible, a general explanation for any other case.
  In the position below I was Black:
  
  [![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/EzawL.jpg)](https://i.sstatic.net/EzawL.jpg)
  
  I actually considered playing g5 during the game because the bishop on h4 is quite annoying as it is pinning my f6 knight.
  However, it is hard for me to understand how this move can be good if after 12. ...g5 13. Bxg5 hxg5 14. Nxg5 and that knight and the combo bishop and Queen is very threatening and both exerting pressure on the king.
  
  What is the reason to make such move? Personally, I would go with something like Be7.
  
  Thanks a lot before-handed.
  
  P.S. : The link to the game is [1](https://i.sstatic.net/EzawL.jpg)
  
  <https://lichess.org/BBzc4Y46/black> [1](https://i.sstatic.net/EzawL.jpg)
  
  **Tags:** analysis, stockfish
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_1**: Create a study on Lichess and edit/add the link to your post. That´s simpler to follow and understand. Leave a useless comment under this so I get notified when updated.  
  
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  ## 2 answers
  
  ### Answer by username_3 on 2019-08-17. Score: 4 | Accepted answer
  
  In this case it's tactical. d4 looks like a really strong move but the problem is after 12...d4 13. Bxf6 black has to play 13...gxf6 because 13...Qxf6 drops a piece to 14.Ne4.
  
  However, if you play 13...g5 first followed by d4, then d4 trades off the isolated pawn and equalizes for black. Black also has a little bit of an initiative going at that point.
  
  In general, you don't want to move the pawns in front of your king if you don't have to or unless it benefits you (like in this example).
  
  How to deal with pins? Study unpin combinations. There are a lot with sacs on f7/f2 and h7/h2. There are also some where the knight captures like Legal's mate or captures on d4/d5 sometimes winning a piece.
  
  You can also play actively. For example creating a threat with the queen and then moving the knight to a center square or just playing aggressively in general will sometimes make the pin meaningless. You also have to remember an early pin by the queen's bishop is usually bad. For one it leaves the b pawn unprotected but also if you haven't castled on that side he isn't really threatening anything.
  
  Lastly, if the opponent captures and doubles your pawns that's not always bad. For one, that means you have the two bishops and an open g-file which is typically the file right in front of the opponent's king. It depends on the position but it's not uncommon for your opponent to hand you a ferocious attack by capturing the knight.
  
  Just as an example, to illustrate some points, this is a game I see at least once a week in blitz:
  
  1. e4 e5 2. Bc4 d6 3. d4 exd4 4. Nf3 Bg4 5. c3 Nc6 6. Qb3 with a double attack on both b7 and f7. Black has a lot of ways to go wrong in this position and 6...Bxf3 (which leads to 7. Bxf7+, Ke7 or d7 8. Qe6#) is fairly common.
  
  
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  ### Answer by username_2 on 2019-08-18. Score: 3
  
  First, the question is not if 12. ...g5 13. Bxg5 hxg5 14. Nxg5 is dangerous, since white is just giving up a piece, and the tactics after 14...d4 are just winning for black (15.Ne6 is nothing since the Nf6 defends h7, and 15.Nh7, you can take on c3 since Nf6+ Qf6 is also nothing).
  
  The real question is what to do after 12...g5; 13.Bg3 d4; 14.Na4 or 13...Rc8. Stockfish indicates that it is roughly equal, but I would not want to weaken my k-side that much without knowing white's K was already castled k-side too, if at all.
  
  Lastly, with your isolated d5-pawn, you should be looking at d4 on every move to see it is a good time to push it.
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_0**: So, do you not think that by sacrificing a knight White does not get at least an interesting attack? If it were me the side defending such position, I would fear an attack with the queen. I know the computer says Black would stand better but I think there may exist some compensation.  
  > **username_2**: @username_0 Sorry, I just do not see it. The problem is that all the pieces want to go to h7, and you can't get the Bd3 out of the way, AND move the N off f6. It is only one or the other. In other lines, the K is able to run to f7 or f8, and flee. The only problem for black is being afraid of ghosts, but I have been a Master for 34 years, so I may just see things more easily, and deeply.  
  > **username_0**: Ok. Thanks for your help!  
  
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