Answers.Body: <p>The Pirc and the Modern Defense are very closely related.</p>
  
  <p>In the Pirc, black fianchettoes his king's bishop and plays ...Nf6; ...d6 is necessary to prepare ...Nf6, because otherwise white can chase the knight away with e4-e5. There are several setups white can choose, but black's defines the Pirc defence:</p>
  
  <pre><code>[fen "rnbqk2r/ppp1ppbp/3p1np1/8/3PP3/2N2N2/PPP2PPP/R1BQKB1R w KQkq - 2 5"]
  </code></pre>
  
  <p>His move order, 1...d6 and then 2...Nf6, makes sure that white's e4 pawn is attacked and that it can't advance; so white can't play a pawn to c4. That's important.</p>
  
  <p>The Modern is like a Pirc without ...Nf6:</p>
  
  <pre><code>[fen "rnbqk1nr/ppp1ppbp/3p2p1/8/3PP3/2N2N2/PPP2PPP/R1BQKB1R b KQkq - 1 4"]
  </code></pre>
  
  <p>Now obviously, if black plays ...Nf6 here or within a few moves, then it's a Pirc again. But black has other moves as well: start something on the queenside with ...a6 or ...c6, develop the other knight to c6 or d7, or play ...e6 or ...e5 (and ...Ne7 later). But frequently black does end up playing ...Nf6 eventually and then it becomes a Pirc.</p>
  
  <p>In this move order, white can also go for 3.c4:</p>
  
  <pre><code>[fen "rnbqk1nr/ppp1ppbp/3p2p1/8/2PPP3/8/PP3PPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 4"]
  </code></pre>
  
  <p>Now again, if black doesn't play ...Nf6, then it's still a Modern Defence (one that also often arises after 1.d4 or 1.c4). But if black does play it, then it's not a Pirc, as in the Pirc white can't play c4. It's a <em>King's Indian Defence</em> instead! That normally starts 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4, but that's the same thing.</p>
  
  <p>So -- <em>fianchetto without Nf6 is the Modern</em>, <em>fianchetto with Nf6 but without a white pawn on c4 is the Pirc</em>, <em>fianchetto with Nf6 and c4 is the King's Indian</em>.</p>
  
  <p>There are also non-Pirc lines that start 1.e4 d6:</p>
  
  <pre><code>[fen "rnbqkb1r/pp2pppp/2pp1n2/8/3PP3/2N5/PPP2PPP/R1BQKBNR w KQkq - 0 4"]
  </code></pre>
  
  <p>In the <em>Czech Defense</em> (1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 c6), black doesn't play his bishop to g7.</p>
  
  <pre><code>[fen "rnbqkb1r/ppp2ppp/3p1n2/4p3/3PP3/2N5/PPP2PPP/R1BQKBNR w KQkq - 0 4"]
  </code></pre>
  
  <p>And this (1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 e5) is a way to get to the <em>Philidor Defense</em>, which normally starts 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 Nf6 4.Nc3, to avoid several options by white, at the cost of allowing 4.dxe5 dxe5 5.Qxd8+, but that's thought to be OK for black.</p>
  
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Answers.Body: <p>The normal development of the Pirc Defense is d6, which heads off White 2. e5. You'll have time to play g6 and Bg7 later. </p>
  
  <p>G6 can "get you there" if White plays, say d4, followed by piece development. But it is a "soft," inferior method because it gives White too many options.</p>
  
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Answers.Text: Grandmaster practice, refutes the idea that 1 ... g6 is inferior. And why on earth would you fear 2. e5? 
  
  There are few independent critical lines that White can _force_ after 1 ... g6. One is 2. Bc4 followed by 3. Qf3. More commonly, you'll see either a transposition to a Queen's side opening like the KID (or even to a position reachable through a Caro-Kann move order), or a line where Black refrains from transposing as a matter of preference (such as the Averbakh, when White plays a KID-like setup and Black leaves his KN at home to facilitate an early ... f5.)
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Answers.Text: @EvanHarper: What you say may be true at the GRANDMASTER level. But for lesser mortals, Black's 1. gg, and White's 2. e5 poses problems that I, for one, would rather not deal with.
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Answers.Text: Erm, which problems, exactly? Seems to me it's a basically unmotivated pawn advance. For that matter, the Austrian attack in the Pirc, a critical line which Black can't prevent, allows White to push e5 with gain of time hitting the Nf6. Also, the idea that certain lines are somehow good for GMs but bad for "mortals" leaves me nonplussed.
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Answers.Body: <p><code>1. e4 g6</code> could certainly transpose into a Pirc but it is not the first two standard moves. If you look at the <a href="http://exeterchessclub.org.uk/content/eco-opening-codes-list-variation-names#RTFToC129" rel="nofollow">ECO entry</a> for B07, B08, B09 you will see the standard variations for <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirc_Defence" rel="nofollow">the Pirc/Modern</a>. I would say the link you give is wrong.</p>
  
  <p><strong>ECO B07</strong></p>
  
  <p><code>1. e4 d6</code></p>
  
  <p>without <code>2. d4</code></p>
  
  <p><code>2. d4</code> without <code>2... Nf6</code></p>
  
  <p><code>2... Nf6</code> without <code>3. Nc3</code></p>
  
  <p><code>3. Nc3</code> without <code>3... g6</code></p>
  
  <p><code>3... g6</code> without <code>4. Nf3</code>, <code>4. f4</code></p>
  
  <p><strong>B08</strong></p>
  
  <p><code>1. e4 d6 2. d4 Nf6 3. Nc3 g6 4. Nf3</code></p>
  
  <p><strong>B09</strong></p>
  
  <p><code>1. e4 d6 2. d4 Nf6 3. Nc3 g6 4. f4</code></p>
  
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Answers.Text: Thanks, it makes me wonder now if any of the other openings on the link are wrong too.
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Body: <p>On this website: <a href="http://www.dwheeler.com/chess-openings/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dwheeler.com/chess-openings/</a>, it says that the Pirc Defense is <code>1. e4 d6</code> or <code>1. e4 g6</code>.  Which one of them is the true Pirc Defense?</p>
  
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Title: What is the Pirc Defense (1... d6 or 1... g6)?
ThreadText: # What is the Pirc Defense (1... d6 or 1... g6)?
  
  (Asked by: username_0 on 2012-07-10)
  
  On this website: <http://www.dwheeler.com/chess-openings/>, it says that the Pirc Defense is `1. e4 d6` or `1. e4 g6`. Which one of them is the true Pirc Defense?
  
  **Tags:** opening, pirc-defense
  
  
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  ## 3 answers
  
  ### Answer by username_4 on 2012-07-10. Score: 9 | Accepted answer
  
  `1. e4 g6` could certainly transpose into a Pirc but it is not the first two standard moves. If you look at the [ECO entry](http://exeterchessclub.org.uk/content/eco-opening-codes-list-variation-names#RTFToC129) for B07, B08, B09 you will see the standard variations for [the Pirc/Modern](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirc_Defence). I would say the link you give is wrong.
  
  **ECO B07**
  
  `1. e4 d6`
  
  without `2. d4`
  
  `2. d4` without `2... Nf6`
  
  `2... Nf6` without `3. Nc3`
  
  `3. Nc3` without `3... g6`
  
  `3... g6` without `4. Nf3`, `4. f4`
  
  **B08**
  
  `1. e4 d6 2. d4 Nf6 3. Nc3 g6 4. Nf3`
  
  **B09**
  
  `1. e4 d6 2. d4 Nf6 3. Nc3 g6 4. f4`
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_0**: Thanks, it makes me wonder now if any of the other openings on the link are wrong too.  
  
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  ### Answer by username_1 on 2014-02-01. Score: 3
  
  The Pirc and the Modern Defense are very closely related.
  In the Pirc, black fianchettoes his king's bishop and plays ...Nf6; ...d6 is necessary to prepare ...Nf6, because otherwise white can chase the knight away with e4-e5. There are several setups white can choose, but black's defines the Pirc defence:
  [fen "rnbqk2r/ppp1ppbp/3p1np1/8/3PP3/2N2N2/PPP2PPP/R1BQKB1R w KQkq - 2 5"]
  
  His move order, 1...d6 and then 2...Nf6, makes sure that white's e4 pawn is attacked and that it can't advance; so white can't play a pawn to c4. That's important.
  The Modern is like a Pirc without ...Nf6:
  [fen "rnbqk1nr/ppp1ppbp/3p2p1/8/3PP3/2N2N2/PPP2PPP/R1BQKB1R b KQkq - 1 4"]
  
  Now obviously, if black plays ...Nf6 here or within a few moves, then it's a Pirc again. But black has other moves as well: start something on the queenside with ...a6 or ...c6, develop the other knight to c6 or d7, or play ...e6 or ...e5 (and ...Ne7 later). But frequently black does end up playing ...Nf6 eventually and then it becomes a Pirc.
  In this move order, white can also go for 3.c4:
  [fen "rnbqk1nr/ppp1ppbp/3p2p1/8/2PPP3/8/PP3PPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 4"]
  
  Now again, if black doesn't play ...Nf6, then it's still a Modern Defence (one that also often arises after 1.d4 or 1.c4). But if black does play it, then it's not a Pirc, as in the Pirc white can't play c4. It's a King's Indian Defence instead! That normally starts 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4, but that's the same thing.
  So -- fianchetto without Nf6 is the Modern, fianchetto with Nf6 but without a white pawn on c4 is the Pirc, fianchetto with Nf6 and c4 is the King's Indian.
  There are also non-Pirc lines that start 1.e4 d6:
  [fen "rnbqkb1r/pp2pppp/2pp1n2/8/3PP3/2N5/PPP2PPP/R1BQKBNR w KQkq - 0 4"]
  
  In the Czech Defense (1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 c6), black doesn't play his bishop to g7.
  [fen "rnbqkb1r/ppp2ppp/3p1n2/4p3/3PP3/2N5/PPP2PPP/R1BQKBNR w KQkq - 0 4"]
  
  And this (1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 e5) is a way to get to the Philidor Defense, which normally starts 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 Nf6 4.Nc3, to avoid several options by white, at the cost of allowing 4.dxe5 dxe5 5.Qxd8+, but that's thought to be OK for black.
  
  
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  ### Answer by username_2 on 2012-07-12. Score: 0
  
  The normal development of the Pirc Defense is d6, which heads off White 2. e5. You'll have time to play g6 and Bg7 later.
  
  G6 can "get you there" if White plays, say d4, followed by piece development. But it is a "soft," inferior method because it gives White too many options.
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_3**: Grandmaster practice, refutes the idea that 1 ... g6 is inferior. And why on earth would you fear 2. e5?   There are few independent critical lines that White can _force_ after 1 ... g6. One is 2. Bc4 followed by 3. Qf3. More commonly, you'll see either a transposition to a Queen's side opening like the KID (or even to a position reachable through a Caro-Kann move order), or a line where Black refrains from transposing as a matter of preference (such as the Averbakh, when White plays a KID-like setup and Black leaves his KN at home to facilitate an early ... f5.)  
  > **username_2**: @EvanHarper: What you say may be true at the GRANDMASTER level. But for lesser mortals, Black's 1. gg, and White's 2. e5 poses problems that I, for one, would rather not deal with.  
  > **username_3**: Erm, which problems, exactly? Seems to me it's a basically unmotivated pawn advance. For that matter, the Austrian attack in the Pirc, a critical line which Black can't prevent, allows White to push e5 with gain of time hitting the Nf6. Also, the idea that certain lines are somehow good for GMs but bad for "mortals" leaves me nonplussed.  
  
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