Answers.Body: <p>Whoever moves first is stalemated. There are four possible first moves for both sides, thus creating four variations.</p>
  <pre><code>[FEN &quot;8/8/8/1p1p1p1p/8/1P1PpP1P/4Pp1p/5K1k w - - 0 1&quot;]
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Answers.Text: Of course I meant a onemover (you can also push the black pawns one file further back) but not accounting for tricky problemists fully goes on the asker :-)
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Body: <p>Ludwig Zagler, Chess Ultimates 12/1974</p>
  <pre><code>[FEN &quot;3nBb2/3PRP2/2ppPPpp/2nk2pb/2p2QN1/1r1rBKP1/7q/8 w - - 0 0&quot;]
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  <p>self=1, 7 solutions</p>
  <p>This is the record (7 variants) for forced single side selfstalemates. I expect that Zagler, who even made a systematic for one-mover records, also did the duplex version (<em>any</em> move for <em>both</em> sides selfstalemates), but could not dig it up on the existing databases.</p>
  <p>Since one white and one black selfstalemate can be easily done with 8 pieces, please give at least 3 overall (or a link to an existing record).</p>
  
Tags: <problems><records><stalemate>
Title: Duplex forced selfstalemate
ThreadText: # Duplex forced selfstalemate
  
  (Asked by: username_0 on 2022-02-08)
  
  Ludwig Zagler, Chess Ultimates 12/1974
  [FEN "3nBb2/3PRP2/2ppPPpp/2nk2pb/2p2QN1/1r1rBKP1/7q/8 w - - 0 0"]
  
  self=1, 7 solutions
  This is the record (7 variants) for forced single side selfstalemates. I expect that Zagler, who even made a systematic for one-mover records, also did the duplex version (any move for both sides selfstalemates), but could not dig it up on the existing databases.
  Since one white and one black selfstalemate can be easily done with 8 pieces, please give at least 3 overall (or a link to an existing record).
  
  **Tags:** problems, records, stalemate
  
  
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  ### Answer by username_1 on 2022-02-08. Score: 1
  
  Whoever moves first is stalemated. There are four possible first moves for both sides, thus creating four variations.
  [FEN "8/8/8/1p1p1p1p/8/1P1PpP1P/4Pp1p/5K1k w - - 0 1"]
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_0**: Of course I meant a onemover (you can also push the black pawns one file further back) but not accounting for tricky problemists fully goes on the asker :-)  
  
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