Answers.Body: <p>Stockfish is easily capable of beating top humans on phone hardware, and probably could do so even if running very asymmetric time control (e.g. 1 second per game for the computer vs 5 minutes per game for the human).</p>
  <p>On fast computers, Lc0 is a roughly even match to grandmasters (but not top grandmasters) with a knight handicap.</p>
  
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Answers.Text: phone hardware is very fast. thats not really helping me get an idea of how to answer the question.
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Answers.Text: my guess is that any computer that is capable of compiling a modem version of SF is superhuman
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Body: <p>I've seen that it's now basically impossible to beat stockfish as a human, but with what amount of processing power? Is that only a given with unlimited super computing? Or can this be accomplished with something like a smart phone app level of cpu power and still beat any human 99.99% of the time?</p>
  
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Comments.Text: a supercomputer with depth 1 would still lose. I think it is the depth that matters
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Comments.Text: @cmgchess thanks, my question though is if the depth is unlimited, what processing power constraint would render stockfish at below average human skill? i dont want to restrict the logic in any way, only the maximum flops/cpu "power"
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Title: What CPU speed constraint is required for stockfish to lose to a human?
ThreadText: # What CPU speed constraint is required for stockfish to lose to a human?
  
  (Asked by: username_0 on 2024-11-26)
  
  I've seen that it's now basically impossible to beat stockfish as a human, but with what amount of processing power? Is that only a given with unlimited super computing? Or can this be accomplished with something like a smart phone app level of cpu power and still beat any human 99.99% of the time?
  
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  > **username_1**: a supercomputer with depth 1 would still lose. I think it is the depth that matters  
  > **username_0**: @username_1 thanks, my question though is if the depth is unlimited, what processing power constraint would render stockfish at below average human skill? i dont want to restrict the logic in any way, only the maximum flops/cpu "power"  
  
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  ### Answer by username_2 on 2024-11-27. Score: 1
  
  Stockfish is easily capable of beating top humans on phone hardware, and probably could do so even if running very asymmetric time control (e.g. 1 second per game for the computer vs 5 minutes per game for the human).
  
  On fast computers, Lc0 is a roughly even match to grandmasters (but not top grandmasters) with a knight handicap.
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_0**: phone hardware is very fast. thats not really helping me get an idea of how to answer the question.  
  > **username_2**: my guess is that any computer that is capable of compiling a modem version of SF is superhuman  
  
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