Body: <p>Danger, Will Robinson, in both English and German &quot;selfmate&quot; is occasionally used for what problemists correctly term &quot;helpmate&quot;. I mean selfmate: a move so idiotic it <em>forces</em> the opponent to mate. (I quickly browsed Krabbe's site, but to no avail.)</p>
  <p>So, did a true selfmate ever occur in an (earnest) game? A cross-check mechanism might do the trick most easily.</p>
  
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Comments.Text: [This answer](https://chess.stackexchange.com/a/32331/35006) by Robert Gamble might help.  Robert found such an OTB game between GM Danilo Milanovic and IM Jasmin Bejtovic at the [41st Bosna Open in Sarajevo 2011](https://ratings.fide.com/view_pgn.phtml?code=55964), by using [CQL 6](http://www.gadycosteff.com/cql/). In the game in question black's last 2 moves are not so much idiotic because mate in a few moves was inevitable either way but the use of the CQL query in the answer is a good idea for finding more such games.
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Comments.Text: I *knew* it would exist here...and had it been tagged with "selfmate", I also would have found it. (Done!)
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Title: Actual selfmate in OTB game?
ThreadText: # Actual selfmate in OTB game?
  
  (Asked by: username_0 on 2023-06-19)
  
  Danger, Will Robinson, in both English and German "selfmate" is occasionally used for what problemists correctly term "helpmate". I mean selfmate: a move so idiotic it *forces* the opponent to mate. (I quickly browsed Krabbe's site, but to no avail.)
  
  So, did a true selfmate ever occur in an (earnest) game? A cross-check mechanism might do the trick most easily.
  
  **Tags:** selfmate
  
  > **Comments:**
  > **username_1**: [This answer](https://chess.stackexchange.com/a/32331/35006) by Robert Gamble might help.  Robert found such an OTB game between GM Danilo Milanovic and IM Jasmin Bejtovic at the [41st Bosna Open in Sarajevo 2011](https://ratings.fide.com/view_pgn.phtml?code=55964), by using [CQL 6](http://www.gadycosteff.com/cql/). In the game in question black's last 2 moves are not so much idiotic because mate in a few moves was inevitable either way but the use of the CQL query in the answer is a good idea for finding more such games.  
  > **username_0**: I *knew* it would exist here...and had it been tagged with "selfmate", I also would have found it. (Done!)  
  
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