<p>Dhammaniyama Anatta is correct, as in &quot;the laws of nature are not self and are empty of a self.&quot;</p>
<p>Anatta Dhammaniyama is also correct, as in &quot;all phenomena is not self and empty of a self, is a universal law of nature&quot;.</p>

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ruben2020
<p>Anatta is Dhammaniyama per <a href="https://suttacentral.net/an3.136/en/sujato?lang=en&amp;layout=linebyline&amp;reference=none&amp;notes=none&amp;highlight=true&amp;script=latin" rel="nofollow noreferrer">AN 3.136</a>.</p>
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<p>Whether Realized Ones arise or not, <strong>this law of nature persists</strong>, this
regularity of natural principles, this invariance of natural
principles:</p>
<p>Uppādā vā, bhikkhave, tathāgatānaṁ anuppādā vā tathāgatānaṁ ṭhitāva sā
dhātu dhammaṭṭhitatā <strong>dhammaniyāma</strong>tā.</p>
<p><strong>all things are not-self</strong>.</p>
<p><strong>Sabbe dhammā anattā</strong>.</p>
<p>A Realized One understands this and comprehends it,</p>
<p>Taṁ tathāgato abhisambujjhati abhisameti.</p>
<p>then he explains, teaches, asserts, establishes, clarifies, analyzes,
and reveals it:</p>
<p>Abhisambujjhitvā abhisametvā ācikkhati deseti paññāpeti paṭṭhapeti
vivarati vibhajati uttānīkaroti:</p>
<p>‘All things are not-self.’”</p>
<p>‘sabbe dhammā anattā’”ti.</p>
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<p>It means according to Nature (rather than according to subjective personal opinion) all things are not-self.</p>
<p>It means Thanissaro who said &quot;not-self is a strategy&quot; was wrong.</p>
<p>It means those who insist Buddhism is phenomenology rather than ontology are wrong.</p>
<p>It means those solipsists who believe nothing can exist outside of experience/mind are wrong.</p>
<p>It means those who believe the Buddha taught a middle-way between self &amp; not-self are wrong.</p>
<p>It means most internet Buddhists have wrong view.</p>

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Dhamma Dhatu
<p>Science can be called Dhammaniyama as per the following <a href="https://buddhism.stackexchange.com/a/49612/11541">answer</a> to a question.</p>
<p>Can I say Dhammaniyama Anatta ? And what does it mean and why ?</p>

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Can I say Dhammaniyama Anatta?
# Can I say Dhammaniyama Anatta?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2023-10-24)

Science can be called Dhammaniyama as per the following [answer](https://buddhism.stackexchange.com/a/49612/11541) to a question.

Can I say Dhammaniyama Anatta ? And what does it mean and why ?

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2023-10-24. Score: 2

Dhammaniyama Anatta is correct, as in "the laws of nature are not self and are empty of a self."

Anatta Dhammaniyama is also correct, as in "all phenomena is not self and empty of a self, is a universal law of nature".


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### Answer by username_2 on 2023-10-24. Score: 1

Anatta is Dhammaniyama per [AN 3.136](https://suttacentral.net/an3.136/en/sujato?lang=en&layout=linebyline&reference=none¬es=none&highlight=true&script=latin).

> Whether Realized Ones arise or not, **this law of nature persists**, this
> regularity of natural principles, this invariance of natural
> principles:
>
> Uppādā vā, bhikkhave, tathāgatānaṁ anuppādā vā tathāgatānaṁ ṭhitāva sā
> dhātu dhammaṭṭhitatā **dhammaniyāma**tā.
>
> **all things are not-self**.
>
> **Sabbe dhammā anattā**.
>
> A Realized One understands this and comprehends it,
>
> Taṁ tathāgato abhisambujjhati abhisameti.
>
> then he explains, teaches, asserts, establishes, clarifies, analyzes,
> and reveals it:
>
> Abhisambujjhitvā abhisametvā ācikkhati deseti paññāpeti paṭṭhapeti
> vivarati vibhajati uttānīkaroti:
>
> ‘All things are not-self.’”
>
> ‘sabbe dhammā anattā’”ti.

It means according to Nature (rather than according to subjective personal opinion) all things are not-self.

It means Thanissaro who said "not-self is a strategy" was wrong.

It means those who insist Buddhism is phenomenology rather than ontology are wrong.

It means those solipsists who believe nothing can exist outside of experience/mind are wrong.

It means those who believe the Buddha taught a middle-way between self & not-self are wrong.

It means most internet Buddhists have wrong view.


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