<p>I believe this has nothing to do with whether or not these men had ears that could hear. The Devas are able to communicate via reading and projecting thought. </p>

<p>The problem teaching Dhamma in the higher spheres has more to do with the fact that there is no painful sensation experienced there and apparently no memory of past lives such as could provide the understanding of pain as experienced personally.</p>

<p>The Buddha and other bhikkhus do manage to visit some of the lower higher realms such as the Brahma Lokas, so there must be some further explanation.</p>

<p>I suggest without personal experinence that I can recollect that this has to do with the enormous length of life in these spheres. The arahant that lived outside Time could visit (via a wormhole?) these higher realms, but once manifested there, if even for so short a time as it takes to snap the fingers, his return would occur millinia later. It would spoil the Buddha's mission.</p>

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Mike Olds
<p>When you have no physical form, you do not have ears to listen to the Dhamma.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Siddarth promised Alara Kalama &amp; uddaka rāmaputta that if he ever finds the way, he will come and tell them ?</p>
</blockquote>

<p>I am not sure if such promise was made. As far as I know this was not the case.</p>

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  <p>Is it true that buddha saw them being born in a Universe, where there was not physical body, but only mind ?</p>
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<p>I believe it to be true, though I have not seen this for my self.</p>

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Sir, if i may ask you.
Are you able to remain conscious 24*7 ?
Doing vipassana have been your sadhna ?
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"sampajaññaṃ na riñcati" - continuous awareness 24 * 7. Personally I am not able to do this but this is what the target you should practice to achieve.
Suminda Sirinath S. Dharmasena
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<p>Siddarth promised Alara Kalama &amp; uddaka rāmaputta that if he ever finds the way, he will come and tell them ?</p>

<p>Is it true that buddha saw them being born in a Universe, where there was not physical body, but only mind ?</p>

<p>And in Buddha's way one must have a physical human body. </p>

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Did Buddha saw his two teachers were born, where living beings did not have physical body?
# Did Buddha saw his two teachers were born, where living beings did not have physical body?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2017-01-05)

Siddarth promised Alara Kalama & uddaka rāmaputta that if he ever finds the way, he will come and tell them ?

Is it true that buddha saw them being born in a Universe, where there was not physical body, but only mind ?

And in Buddha's way one must have a physical human body.

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### Answer by username_2 on 2017-01-05. Score: 0 | Accepted answer

When you have no physical form, you do not have ears to listen to the Dhamma.

> Siddarth promised Alara Kalama & uddaka rāmaputta that if he ever finds the way, he will come and tell them ?

I am not sure if such promise was made. As far as I know this was not the case.

> Is it true that buddha saw them being born in a Universe, where there was not physical body, but only mind ?

I believe it to be true, though I have not seen this for my self.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: Sir, if i may ask you. Are you able to remain conscious 24*7 ? Doing vipassana have been your sadhna ?  
> **username_2**: "sampajaññaṃ na riñcati" - continuous awareness 24 * 7. Personally I am not able to do this but this is what the target you should practice to achieve.  

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### Answer by username_1 on 2019-10-04. Score: 1

I believe this has nothing to do with whether or not these men had ears that could hear. The Devas are able to communicate via reading and projecting thought.

The problem teaching Dhamma in the higher spheres has more to do with the fact that there is no painful sensation experienced there and apparently no memory of past lives such as could provide the understanding of pain as experienced personally.

The Buddha and other bhikkhus do manage to visit some of the lower higher realms such as the Brahma Lokas, so there must be some further explanation.

I suggest without personal experinence that I can recollect that this has to do with the enormous length of life in these spheres. The arahant that lived outside Time could visit (via a wormhole?) these higher realms, but once manifested there, if even for so short a time as it takes to snap the fingers, his return would occur millinia later. It would spoil the Buddha's mission.


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