<p>I am finding it difficult to focus on the incoming-outgoing breath. Whenever I become mindful of my breath, the Mind kicks in. I cannot even focus for 5-10 breaths, the mind activates. Giving the mind some work, which is being aware here, kind of activates the mind.</p>
<p>Instead, if I become mindful of thoughts, I can remain without thoughts for 5-10 seconds. Correct me if I am wrong, but is this Zazen kind of meditation, -- Just sitting, Doing Nothing. Will this practice help attain meditative absorption states?</p>

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2022-11-29T14:43:10.087Z
Are you asking, 'can emptiness be the object of meditation?' I have heard that the mind itself is an object.
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yes, are you right...but then you have to accept what you cannot control too
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Will aiming for emptiness instead of awareness of breath help attaining meditative absorption states?
# Will aiming for emptiness instead of awareness of breath help attaining meditative absorption states?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2022-11-25)

I am finding it difficult to focus on the incoming-outgoing breath. Whenever I become mindful of my breath, the Mind kicks in. I cannot even focus for 5-10 breaths, the mind activates. Giving the mind some work, which is being aware here, kind of activates the mind.

Instead, if I become mindful of thoughts, I can remain without thoughts for 5-10 seconds. Correct me if I am wrong, but is this Zazen kind of meditation, -- Just sitting, Doing Nothing. Will this practice help attain meditative absorption states?

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> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: Are you asking, 'can emptiness be the object of meditation?' I have heard that the mind itself is an object.  
> **username_1**: yes, are you right...but then you have to accept what you cannot control too  

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