<p>Your question is invalid. If all phenomena are non-self you cannot ask "what self achieves the phenomenon called Nibbana".</p>

<p>Prince Siddharta attained  Nibbana and became the Buddha. But that is a statement in conventional reality. When you say "all phenomena are non-self", it is a statement in ultimate reality. Do not  try to mix up the 2 paradigms. Either you speak in ultimate reality or conventional reality. Pick one at a time.</p>

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2017-09-13T05:42:11.633Z
Nirvana is not a phenomenon. You mean to say that I can not say Siddhartha Gautama attained Nirvana. If Siddhartha Gautama did not attain nirvana then how should I rephrase the question ?
Dheeraj Verma
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2017-09-13T06:26:25.440Z
All realities are phenomena. I think you are confusing phenomena with formations(conditioned phenomena)
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Sankha Kulathantille
<p>All phenomenon are nonself then who achieves the Nirvana?</p>

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2017-09-13T01:50:52.497Z
May be it is a duplicate.
Dheeraj Verma
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The mind (citta) finds & abides in Nibbana, similar to when taking medicine from a doctor, the physical body (rather than a 'self') gets well. Its like having a baby. Sperm & ovum make a baby rather than a two selves ('husband' & 'wife'). Its like when food is digested by intestines (rather than by a self). Regards
Dhamma Dhatu
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2017-09-13T02:32:34.997Z
Mind is the whole creation.
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According to Buddhism , who achieves Nirvana?
# According to Buddhism , who achieves Nirvana?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2017-09-13)

All phenomenon are nonself then who achieves the Nirvana?

**Tags:** nirvana, self

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: May be it is a duplicate.  
> **username_1**: The mind (citta) finds & abides in Nibbana, similar to when taking medicine from a doctor, the physical body (rather than a 'self') gets well. Its like having a baby. Sperm & ovum make a baby rather than a two selves ('husband' & 'wife'). Its like when food is digested by intestines (rather than by a self). Regards  
> **username_0**: Mind is the whole creation.  

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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_2 on 2017-09-13. Score: 1

Your question is invalid. If all phenomena are non-self you cannot ask "what self achieves the phenomenon called Nibbana".

Prince Siddharta attained Nibbana and became the Buddha. But that is a statement in conventional reality. When you say "all phenomena are non-self", it is a statement in ultimate reality. Do not try to mix up the 2 paradigms. Either you speak in ultimate reality or conventional reality. Pick one at a time.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: Nirvana is not a phenomenon. You mean to say that I can not say Siddhartha Gautama attained Nirvana. If Siddhartha Gautama did not attain nirvana then how should I rephrase the question ?  
> **username_2**: All realities are phenomena. I think you are confusing phenomena with formations(conditioned phenomena)  

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