<p>My answer is an another question: are you considering any other religion irrespecte of religion buddhism ? If itsnt then my answer is we all are alike a neuron in some real mind. That real mind has set us free to think whatever we can think of ourself (actually itself, the supermunden mind). Its just like a re-confirmation about what i am doing, why doing that and when it can be equal to the reality).</p>

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No religion. I don't respect any. Just thinking about life from more philosophical perspective. I like your idea of being like neuron in this only mind.
Ivan Sivak
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I am only a neuron of the actual mind and trying to get the meaning of the equanimity atmos.
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<p><strong>When there's the enlightenment why we even exists?</strong></p>

<p>We exist believing in a permanent self because of craving.Enlightenment is when we let go of this craving and any other craving.</p>

<p><strong>If Samsara can be brutal and full of suffering, what's its purpose?</strong></p>

<p>I'll answer this question by asking another question.If you throw a ball up what is the purpose of the ball falling down?</p>

<p>There is none.Its just cause and effect.</p>

<p>Samsara was not created by a higher being and we were not put in it to learn some kind of life's lesson or as a kind of test.Remember,Samsara is not a place it's a state of mind of always craving.</p>

<p><strong>To suffer and then enjoy how nice it is to not suffer? Or to have the
choice whether to be good or bad?</strong></p>

<p>Enlightenment is when you transcend both.It's good that your disenchanted with this roller coaster of good then bad good then bad.Don't play the game anymore.If you want to be happy in samsara you'll need to accept the fact that you'll be unhappy when that happiness changes.Everything changes.Impermanence.That's about the only thing that's permanent with samsara.</p>

<p><strong>As humans we can surely limit the suffering. But how much really?</strong></p>

<p>Depends on our own effort.We can limit our suffering through our own merits but we will not be able to eradicate all suffering until enlightenment.</p>

<p><strong>If there are 6 realms (hell, afflicted spirit, animal, human, asura, and heavenly beings) - what sort of principles could ever decide for such an order?</strong></p>

<p>Karma.</p>

<p><strong>If that is so - what's the sense of having e.g. the hell? To "punish" those who act as evil so they could "taste" their own acting? I'm not really sure if I understand the purpose of going through all of it..</strong></p>

<p>We create our own heaven and hell.no one punishes or rewards us.Our actions creates these realms.To simplify things,If you don't want to go to hell do not act like you are already in hell.</p>

<p><strong>Isn't everything supposed to be going towards the enlightenment?</strong></p>

<p>could you tell me more about this.</p>

<p><strong>I believe it was Erwin Schroedinger who expressed an interesting idea that the total number of all minds in the universe is one. Just one mind. Split into different lives in different time and space. If that's the case I only wonder why would the same mind ever "start" this.</strong></p>

<p>I have heard of this concept in Gnostic and Hindu teachings.The closest thing i can relate to Buddhism is There is only awareness.But because of delusion we believe it's my awareness,my consciousness,my perceptions,my thoughts,my feelings,my body.My life.Infinite numbers of beings believing they have individual and separate egos.If i had to pin point what started this all i would say Delusion.But this is all beyond my scope.Please take it with a grain of salt.</p>

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Great answer. Thank you. BTW. in terms of everything going towards the enlightenment - surely I have no idea whether it's even possible, or if it has any sense but..I believe sooner or later everybody will get tired of "raise and fall" concept (if it's called samsara?). You die. Then be born again. Over and over again. Going through happiness and suffer. It's like when you play a game. Sooner or later will experience all the possible scenarios and simply won't see any sense in "playing".
Ivan Sivak
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Yes i see now thank you. It is very senseless indeed.
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I know some religions that believe that the humanity is constantly evolving, and that eventually we will get to a plateau of ultimate evolution. But I never listened or read this in Buddhist context. I don't think that it is supposed to come a time when everyone is enlightened, because there is no one great purpose at all. And "future" is just a fabrication of the mind, if we think about what will happen in ten, a hundred or a thousand years, it is just imagination.
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_I believe sooner or later everybody will get tired of [samsara]._
You can't take it as granted, people naturally thinks that samsara is the ultimate truth of reality, that it makes sense and that suffering is needed. Read [this QA](http://buddhism.stackexchange.com/a/24/37), there are many things about rebirth, samsara and karma.
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<p>Perhaps too straightforward question (I know it's too general) but still - when there's the enlightenment why we even exists? If Samsara can be brutal and full of suffering, what's its purpose? To suffer and then enjoy how nice it is to not suffer? Or to have the choice whether to be good or bad? As humans we can surely limit the suffering. But how much really?</p>

<p>If there are 6 realms (hell, afflicted spirit, animal, human, asura, and heavenly beings) - what sort of principles could ever decide for such an order? Isn't everything supposed to be going towards the enlightenment? If that is so - what's the sense of having e.g. the hell? To "punish" those who act as evil so they could "taste" their own acting? I'm not really sure if I understand the purpose of going through all of it..</p>

<p>I believe it was Erwin Schroedinger who expressed an interesting idea that the total number of all minds in the universe is one. Just one mind. Split into different lives in different time and space. If that's the case I only wonder why would the same mind ever "start" this. Most likely it's only my limited point of view. Seems like never-ending fight between good and evil. Does the Buddhism somehow grasp such let's say - more (perhaps too much) general questions?</p>

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possible duplicate of [What is the meaning and/or purpose of life?](http://buddhism.stackexchange.com/questions/3908/what-is-the-meaning-and-or-purpose-of-life)
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So what's the sense of it all?
# So what's the sense of it all?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2015-01-18)

Perhaps too straightforward question (I know it's too general) but still - when there's the enlightenment why we even exists? If Samsara can be brutal and full of suffering, what's its purpose? To suffer and then enjoy how nice it is to not suffer? Or to have the choice whether to be good or bad? As humans we can surely limit the suffering. But how much really?

If there are 6 realms (hell, afflicted spirit, animal, human, asura, and heavenly beings) - what sort of principles could ever decide for such an order? Isn't everything supposed to be going towards the enlightenment? If that is so - what's the sense of having e.g. the hell? To "punish" those who act as evil so they could "taste" their own acting? I'm not really sure if I understand the purpose of going through all of it..

I believe it was Erwin Schroedinger who expressed an interesting idea that the total number of all minds in the universe is one. Just one mind. Split into different lives in different time and space. If that's the case I only wonder why would the same mind ever "start" this. Most likely it's only my limited point of view. Seems like never-ending fight between good and evil. Does the Buddhism somehow grasp such let's say - more (perhaps too much) general questions?

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> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: possible duplicate of [What is the meaning and/or purpose of life?](http://buddhism.stackexchange.com/questions/3908/what-is-the-meaning-and-or-purpose-of-life)  

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_3 on 2015-01-18. Score: 5 | Accepted answer

**When there's the enlightenment why we even exists?**

We exist believing in a permanent self because of craving.Enlightenment is when we let go of this craving and any other craving.

**If Samsara can be brutal and full of suffering, what's its purpose?**

I'll answer this question by asking another question.If you throw a ball up what is the purpose of the ball falling down?

There is none.Its just cause and effect.

Samsara was not created by a higher being and we were not put in it to learn some kind of life's lesson or as a kind of test.Remember,Samsara is not a place it's a state of mind of always craving.

**To suffer and then enjoy how nice it is to not suffer? Or to have the
choice whether to be good or bad?**

Enlightenment is when you transcend both.It's good that your disenchanted with this roller coaster of good then bad good then bad.Don't play the game anymore.If you want to be happy in samsara you'll need to accept the fact that you'll be unhappy when that happiness changes.Everything changes.Impermanence.That's about the only thing that's permanent with samsara.

**As humans we can surely limit the suffering. But how much really?**

Depends on our own effort.We can limit our suffering through our own merits but we will not be able to eradicate all suffering until enlightenment.

**If there are 6 realms (hell, afflicted spirit, animal, human, asura, and heavenly beings) - what sort of principles could ever decide for such an order?**

Karma.

**If that is so - what's the sense of having e.g. the hell? To "punish" those who act as evil so they could "taste" their own acting? I'm not really sure if I understand the purpose of going through all of it..**

We create our own heaven and hell.no one punishes or rewards us.Our actions creates these realms.To simplify things,If you don't want to go to hell do not act like you are already in hell.

**Isn't everything supposed to be going towards the enlightenment?**

could you tell me more about this.

**I believe it was Erwin Schroedinger who expressed an interesting idea that the total number of all minds in the universe is one. Just one mind. Split into different lives in different time and space. If that's the case I only wonder why would the same mind ever "start" this.**

I have heard of this concept in Gnostic and Hindu teachings.The closest thing i can relate to Buddhism is There is only awareness.But because of delusion we believe it's my awareness,my consciousness,my perceptions,my thoughts,my feelings,my body.My life.Infinite numbers of beings believing they have individual and separate egos.If i had to pin point what started this all i would say Delusion.But this is all beyond my scope.Please take it with a grain of salt.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: Great answer. Thank you. BTW. in terms of everything going towards the enlightenment - surely I have no idea whether it's even possible, or if it has any sense but..I believe sooner or later everybody will get tired of "raise and fall" concept (if it's called samsara?). You die. Then be born again. Over and over again. Going through happiness and suffer. It's like when you play a game. Sooner or later will experience all the possible scenarios and simply won't see any sense in "playing".  
> **username_3**: Yes i see now thank you. It is very senseless indeed.  
> **username_4**: I know some religions that believe that the humanity is constantly evolving, and that eventually we will get to a plateau of ultimate evolution. But I never listened or read this in Buddhist context. I don't think that it is supposed to come a time when everyone is enlightened, because there is no one great purpose at all. And "future" is just a fabrication of the mind, if we think about what will happen in ten, a hundred or a thousand years, it is just imagination.  
> **username_4**: _I believe sooner or later everybody will get tired of [samsara]._ You can't take it as granted, people naturally thinks that samsara is the ultimate truth of reality, that it makes sense and that suffering is needed. Read [this QA](http://buddhism.stackexchange.com/a/24/37), there are many things about rebirth, samsara and karma.  

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### Answer by username_2 on 2015-01-19. Score: 1

My answer is an another question: are you considering any other religion irrespecte of religion buddhism ? If itsnt then my answer is we all are alike a neuron in some real mind. That real mind has set us free to think whatever we can think of ourself (actually itself, the supermunden mind). Its just like a re-confirmation about what i am doing, why doing that and when it can be equal to the reality).

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: No religion. I don't respect any. Just thinking about life from more philosophical perspective. I like your idea of being like neuron in this only mind.  
> **username_2**: I am only a neuron of the actual mind and trying to get the meaning of the equanimity atmos.  

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