<p>There is this section on being a warrior regarding right livelihood.</p>

<p>Right Livelihood : samma ajivo
<a href="http://www.accesstoinsight.org/ptf/dhamma/sacca/sacca4/samma-ajivo/" rel="noreferrer">http://www.accesstoinsight.org/ptf/dhamma/sacca/sacca4/samma-ajivo/</a></p>

<p><strong>Considering becoming a soldier? You may want to reconsider...</strong></p>

<p>Then Yodhajiva the headman went to the Blessed One and, on arrival, having bowed down to him, sat to one side. As he was sitting there he said to the Blessed One: "Lord, I have heard that it has been passed down by the ancient teaching lineage of warriors that 'When a warrior strives &amp; exerts himself in battle, if others then strike him down &amp; slay him while he is striving &amp; exerting himself in battle, then with the breakup of the body, after death, he is reborn in the company of devas slain in battle.' What does the Blessed One have to say about that?"</p>

<p>"Enough, headman, put that aside. Don't ask me that."</p>

<p>A second time... A third time Yodhajiva the headman said: "Lord, I have heard that it has been passed down by the ancient teaching lineage of warriors that 'When a warrior strives &amp; exerts himself in battle, if others then strike him down &amp; slay him while he is striving &amp; exerting himself in battle, then with the breakup of the body, after death, he is reborn in the company of devas slain in battle.' What does the Blessed One have to say about that?"</p>

<p>"Apparently, headman, I haven't been able to get past you by saying, 'Enough, headman, put that aside. Don't ask me that.' So I will simply answer you. When a warrior strives &amp; exerts himself in battle, his mind is already seized, debased, &amp; misdirected by the thought: 'May these beings be struck down or slaughtered or annihilated or destroyed. May they not exist.' If others then strike him down &amp; slay him while he is thus striving &amp; exerting himself in battle, then with the breakup of the body, after death, he is reborn in the hell called the realm of those slain in battle. But if he holds such a view as this: 'When a warrior strives &amp; exerts himself in battle, if others then strike him down &amp; slay him while he is striving &amp; exerting himself in battle, then with the breakup of the body, after death, he is reborn in the company of devas slain in battle,' that is his wrong view. Now, there are two destinations for a person with wrong view, I tell you: either hell or the animal womb."</p>

<p>When this was said, Yodhajiva the headman sobbed &amp; burst into tears. [The Blessed One said:] "That is what I couldn't get past you by saying, 'Enough, headman, put that aside. Don't ask me that.'"</p>

<p>"I'm not crying, lord, because of what the Blessed One said to me, but simply because I have been deceived, cheated, &amp; fooled for a long time by that ancient teaching lineage of warriors who said: 'When a warrior strives &amp; exerts himself in battle, if others then strike him down &amp; slay him while he is striving &amp; exerting himself in battle, then with the breakup of the body, after death, he is reborn in the company of devas slain in battle.'</p>

<p>— SN 42.3</p>

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Just as an addendum to add more depth to my post. This is the go to article I've seen people post on similar questions in the past: http://www.beyondthenet.net/thedway/soldier.htm
Sāmaṇera Jayantha
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I think any career relationship with the military even if it doesn't carry a mindset of "strike him down & slay him while he is thus striving & exerting himself in battle" still is wrong livelihood because although it is not cultivating the poison of hatred or greed, it is cultivation the poison of delusion/ignorance through close karmic relationship (career/job)... There goes my secure IT job with the military ;-(
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Sāmaṇera Jayantha
<p>There are military generals as lay people and stream enterers in the suttas. And there is no clear prohibition to a military career. There are some suttas that criticize the karma of soldiers on the battlefield.</p>

<p>My question is, since being a military general is acceptable livelihood, what should he do? Could he planning for war, making war, or just sit there and do nothing since both of those actions could lead to indirect killing?</p>

<p>If he does nothing, that can lead to catastrophic results and even more people maybe get killed. Is that right livelihood if other people rely on him and he has the responsibility to use military force to protect people?</p>

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Excellent point. There is a lot here and maybe for other questions about the military and ethics. UN Peacekeepers, security after civil wars by third party forces vs radical pacificism as can be read into Buddhism. Fascinating
Crab Bucket
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Can you really give an example of a military general who continued his career after becoming a stream-enterer?
yuttadhammo
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It's a bit different from the other question; here they are asking what a military officer should do, rather than if the career itself is unethical.
yuttadhammo
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Isn't that Siha was military general and a stream enterer?
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Not a duplication. The Buddha forbids weapon business but not military career. That older question if for trader, who buy/sell and make profit. This question is for military career, who is not based on money profit
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Can a military career be ethical?
# Can a military career be ethical?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2014-06-26)

There are military generals as lay people and stream enterers in the suttas. And there is no clear prohibition to a military career. There are some suttas that criticize the karma of soldiers on the battlefield.

My question is, since being a military general is acceptable livelihood, what should he do? Could he planning for war, making war, or just sit there and do nothing since both of those actions could lead to indirect killing?

If he does nothing, that can lead to catastrophic results and even more people maybe get killed. Is that right livelihood if other people rely on him and he has the responsibility to use military force to protect people?

**Tags:** karma, right-livelihood

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: Not a duplication. The Buddha forbids weapon business but not military career. That older question if for trader, who buy/sell and make profit. This question is for military career, who is not based on money profit  
> **username_1**: Excellent point. There is a lot here and maybe for other questions about the military and ethics. UN Peacekeepers, security after civil wars by third party forces vs radical pacificism as can be read into Buddhism. Fascinating  
> **username_2**: Can you really give an example of a military general who continued his career after becoming a stream-enterer?  
> **username_2**: It's a bit different from the other question; here they are asking what a military officer should do, rather than if the career itself is unethical.  
> **username_0**: Isn't that Siha was military general and a stream enterer?  

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### Answer by username_3 on 2014-06-26. Score: 5

There is this section on being a warrior regarding right livelihood.

Right Livelihood : samma ajivo
<http://www.accesstoinsight.org/ptf/dhamma/sacca/sacca4/samma-ajivo/>

**Considering becoming a soldier? You may want to reconsider...**

Then Yodhajiva the headman went to the Blessed One and, on arrival, having bowed down to him, sat to one side. As he was sitting there he said to the Blessed One: "Lord, I have heard that it has been passed down by the ancient teaching lineage of warriors that 'When a warrior strives & exerts himself in battle, if others then strike him down & slay him while he is striving & exerting himself in battle, then with the breakup of the body, after death, he is reborn in the company of devas slain in battle.' What does the Blessed One have to say about that?"

"Enough, headman, put that aside. Don't ask me that."

A second time... A third time Yodhajiva the headman said: "Lord, I have heard that it has been passed down by the ancient teaching lineage of warriors that 'When a warrior strives & exerts himself in battle, if others then strike him down & slay him while he is striving & exerting himself in battle, then with the breakup of the body, after death, he is reborn in the company of devas slain in battle.' What does the Blessed One have to say about that?"

"Apparently, headman, I haven't been able to get past you by saying, 'Enough, headman, put that aside. Don't ask me that.' So I will simply answer you. When a warrior strives & exerts himself in battle, his mind is already seized, debased, & misdirected by the thought: 'May these beings be struck down or slaughtered or annihilated or destroyed. May they not exist.' If others then strike him down & slay him while he is thus striving & exerting himself in battle, then with the breakup of the body, after death, he is reborn in the hell called the realm of those slain in battle. But if he holds such a view as this: 'When a warrior strives & exerts himself in battle, if others then strike him down & slay him while he is striving & exerting himself in battle, then with the breakup of the body, after death, he is reborn in the company of devas slain in battle,' that is his wrong view. Now, there are two destinations for a person with wrong view, I tell you: either hell or the animal womb."

When this was said, Yodhajiva the headman sobbed & burst into tears. [The Blessed One said:] "That is what I couldn't get past you by saying, 'Enough, headman, put that aside. Don't ask me that.'"

"I'm not crying, lord, because of what the Blessed One said to me, but simply because I have been deceived, cheated, & fooled for a long time by that ancient teaching lineage of warriors who said: 'When a warrior strives & exerts himself in battle, if others then strike him down & slay him while he is striving & exerting himself in battle, then with the breakup of the body, after death, he is reborn in the company of devas slain in battle.'

— SN 42.3

> **Comments:**
> **username_3**: Just as an addendum to add more depth to my post. This is the go to article I've seen people post on similar questions in the past: http://www.beyondthenet.net/thedway/soldier.htm  
> **username_4**: I think any career relationship with the military even if it doesn't carry a mindset of "strike him down & slay him while he is thus striving & exerting himself in battle" still is wrong livelihood because although it is not cultivating the poison of hatred or greed, it is cultivation the poison of delusion/ignorance through close karmic relationship (career/job)... There goes my secure IT job with the military ;-(  

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