<p>SN 12.23 says: </p>

<ul>
<li><p>Khaye<strong>ñāṇa</strong>ṃ (knowledge of destruction of defilements) has freedom (from defilements) as its condition. </p></li>
<li><p>Freedom (from defilements) has dispassion, disillusionment &amp; yathābhūta<strong>ñāṇa</strong>dassanan (truly knowing and seeing) as its conditions. </p></li>
</ul>

<p>Therefore, if following the sequence of dhammas in SN 12.23, "right knowledge" ("samma ñāṇa") in MN 117 would be yathābhūta<strong>ñāṇa</strong>dassanan and not khaye<strong>ñāṇa</strong>ṃ. </p>

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Dhamma Dhatu
<p>Right Knowledge (sammāñāṇaṃ) come first. Then come Right Release (sammāvimutti). However those two are only for an Arahat. For the sekha person (one who is practicing the Noble Eight Fold Path) the first eight.</p>

<p><a href="https://suttacentral.net/mn117/en/bodhi" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://suttacentral.net/mn117/en/bodhi</a></p>

<blockquote>
  <p>“Therein, bhikkhus, right view comes first. And how does right view
  come first? In one of right view, right intention comes into being; in
  one of right intention, right speech comes into being; in one of right
  speech, right action comes into being; in one of right action, right
  livelihood comes into being; in one of right livelihood, right effort
  comes into being; in one of right effort, right mindfulness comes into
  being; in one of right mindfulness, right concentration comes into
  being; in one of right concentration, right knowledge comes into
  being; in one of right knowledge, right deliverance comes into being.
  Thus, bhikkhus, the path of the disciple in higher training possesses
  eight factors, the arahant possesses ten factors.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>If you want to learn how to develop the Noble Eight Fold Path, <a href="https://visuddhimagga.info/download.php?file=https://anaalaya.blob.core.windows.net/dhamma2018/M_E_Eightfoldpath_30_03_2018.mp4" rel="nofollow noreferrer">take a look at this</a></p>

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<p>In ten Noble path the sequence is right knowledge and right release. (Samma Nana and samma vimutti)</p>

<p>In SN 12.23 it says:</p>

<p>Dispassion is a vital condition for freedom.</p>

<p>virāgūpanisā vimutti,</p>

<p>Freedom is a vital condition for the knowledge of ending.</p>

<p>vimuttūpanisaṃ khayeñāṇaṃ.</p>

<p><a href="https://suttacentral.net/sn12.23/en/sujato" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://suttacentral.net/sn12.23/en/sujato</a></p>

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Right knowledge and right relase or right release and right knowledge
# Right knowledge and right relase or right release and right knowledge

(Asked by: username_0 on 2019-06-01)

In ten Noble path the sequence is right knowledge and right release. (Samma Nana and samma vimutti)

In SN 12.23 it says:

Dispassion is a vital condition for freedom.

virāgūpanisā vimutti,

Freedom is a vital condition for the knowledge of ending.

vimuttūpanisaṃ khayeñāṇaṃ.

<https://suttacentral.net/sn12.23/en/sujato>

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2019-06-01. Score: 3

SN 12.23 says:

* Khaye**ñāṇa**ṃ (knowledge of destruction of defilements) has freedom (from defilements) as its condition.
* Freedom (from defilements) has dispassion, disillusionment & yathābhūta**ñāṇa**dassanan (truly knowing and seeing) as its conditions.

Therefore, if following the sequence of dhammas in SN 12.23, "right knowledge" ("samma ñāṇa") in MN 117 would be yathābhūta**ñāṇa**dassanan and not khaye**ñāṇa**ṃ.


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### Answer by username_2 on 2019-06-02. Score: 0

Right Knowledge (sammāñāṇaṃ) come first. Then come Right Release (sammāvimutti). However those two are only for an Arahat. For the sekha person (one who is practicing the Noble Eight Fold Path) the first eight.

<https://suttacentral.net/mn117/en/bodhi>

> “Therein, bhikkhus, right view comes first. And how does right view
> come first? In one of right view, right intention comes into being; in
> one of right intention, right speech comes into being; in one of right
> speech, right action comes into being; in one of right action, right
> livelihood comes into being; in one of right livelihood, right effort
> comes into being; in one of right effort, right mindfulness comes into
> being; in one of right mindfulness, right concentration comes into
> being; in one of right concentration, right knowledge comes into
> being; in one of right knowledge, right deliverance comes into being.
> Thus, bhikkhus, the path of the disciple in higher training possesses
> eight factors, the arahant possesses ten factors.

If you want to learn how to develop the Noble Eight Fold Path, [take a look at this](https://visuddhimagga.info/download.php?file=https://anaalaya.blob.core.windows.net/dhamma2018/M_E_Eightfoldpath_30_03_2018.mp4)


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