<p>&quot;This positive experiences do have a pleasure.&quot; The Blessed One has clearly said it.</p>
<p>Then the Blessed One says &quot;If there is no pleasure, the beings will not cling to them.&quot;</p>
<p>But then says &quot;Even though they have a little pleasure their drawbacks are comparatively larger.&quot;</p>
<p>So the positive experiences are considered Suffering. No need to say about negative experiences.</p>
<p>Refer: Paṭhamanoceassādasutta, Dutiyanoceassādasutta, Nocedaṃsutta, Dutiyaassādasutta,Tatiyaassādasutta etc.</p>

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Blake
<p>Have you read <a href="https://www.dhammatalks.org/suttas/MN/MN44.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">MN 44</a>?</p>
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<p>“Pleasant feeling is pleasant in remaining, &amp; painful in changing,
friend Visākha. Painful feeling is painful in remaining &amp; <strong>pleasant
in changing</strong>. Neither-pleasant-nor-painful feeling is pleasant in
occurring together with knowledge, and painful in occurring without
knowledge.”</p>
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That answers my questions, but I will leave it open for a while for the case that someone wants to add more depth.
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stick-in-hand
<p>According to Buddhist teachings, we suffer because of the moment to moment impermanence of all experience. As I understand it, this is caused by clinging to experiences we feel positive about. But wouldn't the impermanence of experiences we try to avoid, by the same logic, involve a similar subtle kind of bliss?</p>

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Is there a blissful equivalent to dukkha caused by impermanence?
# Is there a blissful equivalent to dukkha caused by impermanence?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2022-10-14)

According to Buddhist teachings, we suffer because of the moment to moment impermanence of all experience. As I understand it, this is caused by clinging to experiences we feel positive about. But wouldn't the impermanence of experiences we try to avoid, by the same logic, involve a similar subtle kind of bliss?

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_2 on 2022-10-15. Score: 5 | Accepted answer

Have you read [MN 44](https://www.dhammatalks.org/suttas/MN/MN44.html)?

> “Pleasant feeling is pleasant in remaining, & painful in changing,
> friend Visākha. Painful feeling is painful in remaining & **pleasant
> in changing**. Neither-pleasant-nor-painful feeling is pleasant in
> occurring together with knowledge, and painful in occurring without
> knowledge.”

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: That answers my questions, but I will leave it open for a while for the case that someone wants to add more depth.  

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### Answer by username_1 on 2022-10-15. Score: 0

"This positive experiences do have a pleasure." The Blessed One has clearly said it.

Then the Blessed One says "If there is no pleasure, the beings will not cling to them."

But then says "Even though they have a little pleasure their drawbacks are comparatively larger."

So the positive experiences are considered Suffering. No need to say about negative experiences.

Refer: Paṭhamanoceassādasutta, Dutiyanoceassādasutta, Nocedaṃsutta, Dutiyaassādasutta,Tatiyaassādasutta etc.


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