<p>Ultimate reality is viewing the picture below as merely elements (dhatu); or merely aggregates (khandha); or merely a sense object (ayatana); which is impermanent; unsatisfactory &amp; not-self.</p>
<p>Samutti is viewing the picture below as &quot;Donald Trump&quot;, &quot;evil man&quot;, &quot;world saviour&quot;, etc.</p>
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2024-04-29T03:37:50.107Z
So how would that apply as far as meditation goes? because the quote that I gave was referring to that.   Would it mean that when a thought arises knowing it as phenomena arising and passing? Also when a sensation or feeling arises
Sati
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samutti is thoughts about "self" (internal & external). paramattha  is no thoughts of self
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<p>Please give a clear simple example of how this looks in a practical way without quoting suttas. I just want a practical example. Thanks</p>
<p>&quot;The object of consciousness, or mind-object, that arises has to be of ultimate reality, not conventional reality. We must be able to differentiate between what is absolute reality, or paramattha dhamma and what is conventional reality, or sammuti.&quot;</p>

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2024-04-29T17:50:23.970Z
Where did you quoted `"The object of consciousness, or mind-object...` from? It looks wrong. `that arises has to be of ultimate reality,` how a thought is ultimate reality?
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Practical example of paramattha dhamma compared to samutti
# Practical example of paramattha dhamma compared to samutti

(Asked by: username_0 on 2024-04-29)

Please give a clear simple example of how this looks in a practical way without quoting suttas. I just want a practical example. Thanks

"The object of consciousness, or mind-object, that arises has to be of ultimate reality, not conventional reality. We must be able to differentiate between what is absolute reality, or paramattha dhamma and what is conventional reality, or sammuti."

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> **username_1**: Where did you quoted `"The object of consciousness, or mind-object...` from? It looks wrong. `that arises has to be of ultimate reality,` how a thought is ultimate reality?  

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### Answer by username_2 on 2024-04-29. Score: 0

Ultimate reality is viewing the picture below as merely elements (dhatu); or merely aggregates (khandha); or merely a sense object (ayatana); which is impermanent; unsatisfactory & not-self.

Samutti is viewing the picture below as "Donald Trump", "evil man", "world saviour", etc.

[![enter image description here](https://i.sstatic.net/M6hSDvqp.jpg)](https://i.sstatic.net/M6hSDvqp.jpg)

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: So how would that apply as far as meditation goes? because the quote that I gave was referring to that.   Would it mean that when a thought arises knowing it as phenomena arising and passing? Also when a sensation or feeling arises  
> **username_2**: samutti is thoughts about "self" (internal & external). paramattha  is no thoughts of self  

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