<p>As answered by Yinxu, the term 'Mara' is used in many ways in Buddhism. </p>

<p>I think to develop theories about <strong>Mara the Tempter</strong>, it is useful to understand 'gods' ('deva'), who include human beings with psychic powers, that Judeo-Christianity calls 'angels'. In Judeo-Christianity, the Bible reports angels &amp; also prophets such as Moses &amp; Jesus that displayed supernormal (psychic) powers. </p>

<p>These angels &amp; prophets are created (by nature) to rule &amp; guide ordinary people. These angels &amp; prophets teach people to believe in 'God' &amp; 'self'. </p>

<p>These angels &amp; prophets with psychic powers exist today within Christianity. Yet they are not interested in or believe in Buddhism because they believe Christianity is best for ordinary people. </p>

<p>Hindus are similar, often strongly opposed to Buddhism because of its teaching of anatta &amp; atheism. </p>

<p>Therefore, Mara does not necessarily have to be an intrinsically evil being that is tempting people to do evil in the way Christians depict. Satan does not exist in the Old Testament apart from in the Book of Job, as an angel in heaven with God. The Christian idea of Satan is obviously very similar to that in Buddhism but their own version. </p>

<p>My point is Mara can be any being with supernormal powers that opposes the Buddhist teachings because Buddhism teaches anatta (nots-self). Such a Mara does not necessarily need to be intrinsically evil. Karmically, they simply need to act with the good intention that the Buddhist teachings of anatta are not beneficial to the majority of people. Therefore, their karma will not necessarily result in a loss of their supernormal powers since opposing Buddhism is not inherently bad karma for them. </p>

<p>Or less insidiously, such Mara may simply be testing the Buddhas &amp; arahants.</p>

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This is very interesting although I am not sure if it is doctrinally accurate since it's rather speculative. Interestingly in fact from the Mahayana standpoint they equate the Dharma, that is the Truth, Law and Teachings of the Cosmos to be equivalent to the Celestial Buddha, that is the true Body (Dharmakaya) of the Buddha (and everyone else). That is more or less very similar to the concept of God, but one that is utterly impartial.
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What was referred to as 'doctrine' is also speculative. Also, as it was inferred, the gods of Judea-Christianity are not exactly impartial. Strange how Mahayana equates Buddha with God when the Buddha did not.
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Well 'doctrine' as espoused by a religious community? If one person has a religious concept but that is not shared by a group of like minded thinkers then they can be labeled 'heretical'.
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Since when were 'communities' the truth? There are many communities or sects that claim to represent Buddhism; each with different ideas.
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"Strange how Mahayana equates Buddha with God when the Buddha did not" Actually I think it's more like everyone is an aspect of the ultimate reality. The Dhammadhatu so to speak.
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pardon me if i got this wrong, Lord Buddha never said the Anatta is bad for anyone or that it is useless for some. Lord Buddha said that only some are  capable of seeing it and therefore Buddhism is for the ones who are wise enough to understand it's value
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"...the bewildered Vacchagotta would become even more bewildered..." SN 44.10
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SN 55.53 " Sir exhort us for our benefit"...:"Dhammadinna, dwell upon emptiness (sunnata)"..."But sir, it is not easy for us dwelling in a home crowded with children, enjoying sensual pleasures,, to dwell upon emptiness"..."Then, Dhammadinna, you should train yourself to possess faith in the Buddha, Dhamma & Sangha, well possessed in virtue (sila) leading to concentration"...
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<p>There are no stories within the Pāli canon that I know that describe how one becomes a Mara though there are accounts of others who have been maras in a previous life (Moggallana being one of them. See <a href="http://www.basicbuddhism.org/resources/sutta/MN50_Maratajjaniya_Sutta.pdf" rel="nofollow">MN 50</a>).  There is also a sutta in which the Buddha declares that it is impossible for a woman to become a Māra (See MN 115 § 15).  The Buddha does explain how one can become a deva [of the gandhabba order] in <a href="http://awake.kiev.ua/dhamma/tipitaka/2Sutta-Pitaka/3Samyutta-Nikaya/Samyutta3/30-Gandhabbakaya-Samyutta/01-Gandhabbavaggo-e.html" rel="nofollow">SN 31.2</a>. I don't know that the doing the opposite would direct one to becoming a Mara.</p>

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Hi @Rks1157 "it is impossible for a woman to become a Māra" is not properly phrased I believe.  The proper phrasing would be "Mara cannot arise in female form" or a "Mara cannot be born as a female".
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Kaveenga is correct. Sometimes Potato is not potato
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<p>Mara is the most powerful being in all the sensual realms, He resides in the highest sensual adobe called paranimmita-vasavatti. where one day is equal to 1600 earth years.</p>

<p>It is not easy to become Mara, Through shear will power one has to observe the precepts well &amp; practice generosity .
 Mara being the highest sensual being surpasses all the other devas in the heavenly realms in the following ways (Exceeds in Life-span, exceeds in beauty, exceeds in sensual pleasures, exceeds in glory, Exceeds in power).</p>

<p><strong>Mara surpasses all devas with respect to Life-span, unmatched beauty etc... due to the fact that in the previous lives he has abstained from killing, Stealing &amp; sexual misconduct &amp; Drinking. All Unwholesome actions done involving the body.
This is the reason he surpasses all other devas in life, beauty, power etc..</strong></p>

<p>There is one sutta in Tibetan Buddhism,  says - That Mara has the  most largest &amp; most powerful demonic army in the 31 planes of existence at his command.<br>
This army consists of 10 regiments with powerful/hideous demons, 
<strong>it is said that this army weighs 10x times the weight of the earth.</strong> </p>

<p>It was because that some one has observed the precepts &amp; practiced generosity**(wholesome karamic effects)** in a massive scale but haven't listened &amp; thought about dharma (wisdom), this is the reason to become mara. </p>

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<p>The current Mara was Mara Dusi's nephew back in the days of Buddha Kakusandha. So it seems that there's a waiting list in the Paranimmita-vasavatti heaven. </p>

<p>There are some people in the world who do a lot of worldly good deeds, but they dislike and discourage meditation, listening to the Dhamma, getting ordained or anything that has to do with ending of Samsara. I would imagine such people might be born in the Mara-clan of the Paranimmita-vasavatti realm, if they can amass enough good Karma. Among them, whoever is the most powerful, takes up the title.</p>

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Still i can't find a reason why such a powerful being who is only second to a Buddha do such foolish things when he himsself  can see reality unfold throughout centuries, This is very strange, why does a new one accept the "Post of Mara" when the fate of the previous us apparent?
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A Pacceka Buddha is the one second to a Buddha. Not a Mara. Why do many people still drink liquor and smoke cigars, even though the consequences are apparent? It's because of defilements.
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You are right, and when i said only second to a buddha, i meant a single Buddha era. In a single era of a Buddha (While that Buddha Shasana exists) the next one in powers and capabilities is the mara. Am i correct?
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Not! Brahmas are more powerful than any god. Venerable Moggallana is the one most capable in magical powers, after the Buddha.
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What about Lord Buddha's own saying "All the normal (Pruthakjana) are under the influence of the mara. No other being is so capable or manipulative as the Mara. this is a power unheard of among any other kind of beings. "
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Which Sutta are you referring to?
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I'm sorry i can't recall the name. But it can be found in the pali texts. In it Mara is portrayed as the one who has dominion over all normal mortals who are yet to reach the fruits of the path.
Theravada
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But he's still lesser in power than Brahmas
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But how?, Brahma's aren't with the power to influence all living beings, Only a Mara alone has such power at all normal beings. Isn't it?
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Brahmas are not sensual beings. So they do not desire to influence beings in that way
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indeed but they do not have the influence of a Mara even if they wanted to do that,
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@Theravada How do you know? :)
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There is a statement from Lord Buddha clearly mentioning that Mara has unique influence over beings who have not met the ends of the path. Sadly i do not remember the suttra.
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Unique power doesn't mean the most powerful
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No debate needed brother, I only mentioned what i've learnt from dhamma. Try to find the sutta and you will see.
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<blockquote>
  <p>Abhisankhāra-māra - The Karmic force</p>
  
  <p>Kleśa-māra, or Ma̋ra as the embodiment of all unskillful emotions.</p>
  
  <p>Mṛtyu-māra, or Māra as death, in the sense of the ceaseless round of
  birth and death.</p>
  
  <p>Skandha-māra, or Māra as metaphor for the entirety of conditioned
  existence.</p>
  
  <p>Devaputra-māra, or Māra the son of a deva (god), that is, Māra as an
  objectively existent being rather than as a metaphor.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Apart from your internal mara and metaphysical maras. The Mara as existent beings are essentially gods with Wrong Views and Wrong Intentions. The Mara that tempted Buddha in particular, was a god from one of the highest heavens Paranimmita-vasavatti, the devas with the power over other's creations. That is not only can they create anything to fulfill their desires, but other create it for them to worship them. Seeing that the Desire Realm was so enjoyable and pleasurable, why should anyone seek to leave it and so try to oppose the Buddha.</p>

<p>So how did such a being came about? Through their former karmic merit. Like gods who attain heaven but then squander their merits, maras went further by obstructing others in their search for virtue and truth.</p>

<p>Unlike the Christian devil, Maras are not rulers of Hell. But in a sense they are 'fallen' in spirit, though not in power. Eventually such a being use up their good karma and fall possibly even the the hells themselves. Of course they are not unredeemable either, if they repent and support the truth, the label 'Mara' would not apply to them.</p>

<p>There is a saying in Chinese Buddhism, to cultivate karmic rewards without cultivating wisdom is the Way of Mara. That is your good karma could bring you high up in the the heaven or as a ruler (or someone in position of power), but without wisdom - and therefore ethics, you could easily abuse your powers, causing suffering on others and ultimately yourself.</p>

<p>So as you can see, you could be your own Mara, you could be a Mara to others and discourage them from doing good deeds.</p>

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A good explanation for the birth, But is there an explanation for the actions  taken afterwards? when he can watch the universe for centuries to see the reality, why such dumb choices from him? this is such a fascinating topic!
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@Theravada Have you ever met or heard of someone who is drunk on power? Even Devadatta despite personally knowing the Buddha as his elder cousin and practicing under him became conceited from his meditative attainments and psychic powers, then after being rejected for the position of the leader of the Sangha became angry enough to harm the Buddha. Eventually landing himself in Avici Hell. Should he not have known better? Yet as the saying goes, pride goes before a fall.
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Yes it might be the thing that's at work here
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What sutta says that Mara is in the paranimmita-vasavatti realm?
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Yinxu
<p>I am not asking for an explanation on the whole "What is a Mara?" question. What i'm asking about is the being mentioned in Buddhism who has the command over all normal beings, the one who came personally to challenge,frighten lord Buddha.</p>

<p>Is there an explanation to why or how a person become's a "Mara"?</p>

<sutras><realms><mara><heavens>
How does one become a "Māra"?
# How does one become a "Māra"?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2016-05-12)

I am not asking for an explanation on the whole "What is a Mara?" question. What i'm asking about is the being mentioned in Buddhism who has the command over all normal beings, the one who came personally to challenge,frighten lord Buddha.

Is there an explanation to why or how a person become's a "Mara"?

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## 5 answers

### Answer by username_2 on 2016-05-13. Score: 7

> Abhisankhāra-māra - The Karmic force
>
> Kleśa-māra, or Ma̋ra as the embodiment of all unskillful emotions.
>
> Mṛtyu-māra, or Māra as death, in the sense of the ceaseless round of
> birth and death.
>
> Skandha-māra, or Māra as metaphor for the entirety of conditioned
> existence.
>
> Devaputra-māra, or Māra the son of a deva (god), that is, Māra as an
> objectively existent being rather than as a metaphor.

Apart from your internal mara and metaphysical maras. The Mara as existent beings are essentially gods with Wrong Views and Wrong Intentions. The Mara that tempted Buddha in particular, was a god from one of the highest heavens Paranimmita-vasavatti, the devas with the power over other's creations. That is not only can they create anything to fulfill their desires, but other create it for them to worship them. Seeing that the Desire Realm was so enjoyable and pleasurable, why should anyone seek to leave it and so try to oppose the Buddha.

So how did such a being came about? Through their former karmic merit. Like gods who attain heaven but then squander their merits, maras went further by obstructing others in their search for virtue and truth.

Unlike the Christian devil, Maras are not rulers of Hell. But in a sense they are 'fallen' in spirit, though not in power. Eventually such a being use up their good karma and fall possibly even the the hells themselves. Of course they are not unredeemable either, if they repent and support the truth, the label 'Mara' would not apply to them.

There is a saying in Chinese Buddhism, to cultivate karmic rewards without cultivating wisdom is the Way of Mara. That is your good karma could bring you high up in the the heaven or as a ruler (or someone in position of power), but without wisdom - and therefore ethics, you could easily abuse your powers, causing suffering on others and ultimately yourself.

So as you can see, you could be your own Mara, you could be a Mara to others and discourage them from doing good deeds.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: A good explanation for the birth, But is there an explanation for the actions  taken afterwards? when he can watch the universe for centuries to see the reality, why such dumb choices from him? this is such a fascinating topic!  
> **username_2**: @username_0 Have you ever met or heard of someone who is drunk on power? Even Devadatta despite personally knowing the Buddha as his elder cousin and practicing under him became conceited from his meditative attainments and psychic powers, then after being rejected for the position of the leader of the Sangha became angry enough to harm the Buddha. Eventually landing himself in Avici Hell. Should he not have known better? Yet as the saying goes, pride goes before a fall.  
> **username_0**: Yes it might be the thing that's at work here  
> **username_7**: What sutta says that Mara is in the paranimmita-vasavatti realm?  

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### Answer by username_6 on 2016-05-13. Score: 6

The current Mara was Mara Dusi's nephew back in the days of Buddha Kakusandha. So it seems that there's a waiting list in the Paranimmita-vasavatti heaven.

There are some people in the world who do a lot of worldly good deeds, but they dislike and discourage meditation, listening to the Dhamma, getting ordained or anything that has to do with ending of Samsara. I would imagine such people might be born in the Mara-clan of the Paranimmita-vasavatti realm, if they can amass enough good Karma. Among them, whoever is the most powerful, takes up the title.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: Still i can't find a reason why such a powerful being who is only second to a Buddha do such foolish things when he himsself  can see reality unfold throughout centuries, This is very strange, why does a new one accept the "Post of Mara" when the fate of the previous us apparent?  
> **username_6**: A Pacceka Buddha is the one second to a Buddha. Not a Mara. Why do many people still drink liquor and smoke cigars, even though the consequences are apparent? It's because of defilements.  
> **username_0**: You are right, and when i said only second to a buddha, i meant a single Buddha era. In a single era of a Buddha (While that Buddha Shasana exists) the next one in powers and capabilities is the mara. Am i correct?  
> **username_6**: Not! Brahmas are more powerful than any god. Venerable Moggallana is the one most capable in magical powers, after the Buddha.  
> **username_0**: What about Lord Buddha's own saying "All the normal (Pruthakjana) are under the influence of the mara. No other being is so capable or manipulative as the Mara. this is a power unheard of among any other kind of beings. "  
> **username_6**: Which Sutta are you referring to?  
> **username_0**: I'm sorry i can't recall the name. But it can be found in the pali texts. In it Mara is portrayed as the one who has dominion over all normal mortals who are yet to reach the fruits of the path.  
> **username_6**: But he's still lesser in power than Brahmas  
> **username_0**: But how?, Brahma's aren't with the power to influence all living beings, Only a Mara alone has such power at all normal beings. Isn't it?  
> **username_6**: Brahmas are not sensual beings. So they do not desire to influence beings in that way  
> **username_0**: indeed but they do not have the influence of a Mara even if they wanted to do that,  
> **username_6**: @username_0 How do you know? :)  
> **username_0**: There is a statement from Lord Buddha clearly mentioning that Mara has unique influence over beings who have not met the ends of the path. Sadly i do not remember the suttra.  
> **username_6**: Unique power doesn't mean the most powerful  
> **username_0**: No debate needed brother, I only mentioned what i've learnt from dhamma. Try to find the sutta and you will see.  

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### Answer by username_1 on 2016-05-13. Score: 2

As answered by username_2, the term 'Mara' is used in many ways in Buddhism.

I think to develop theories about **Mara the Tempter**, it is useful to understand 'gods' ('deva'), who include human beings with psychic powers, that Judeo-Christianity calls 'angels'. In Judeo-Christianity, the Bible reports angels & also prophets such as Moses & Jesus that displayed supernormal (psychic) powers.

These angels & prophets are created (by nature) to rule & guide ordinary people. These angels & prophets teach people to believe in 'God' & 'self'.

These angels & prophets with psychic powers exist today within Christianity. Yet they are not interested in or believe in Buddhism because they believe Christianity is best for ordinary people.

Hindus are similar, often strongly opposed to Buddhism because of its teaching of anatta & atheism.

Therefore, Mara does not necessarily have to be an intrinsically evil being that is tempting people to do evil in the way Christians depict. Satan does not exist in the Old Testament apart from in the Book of Job, as an angel in heaven with God. The Christian idea of Satan is obviously very similar to that in Buddhism but their own version.

My point is Mara can be any being with supernormal powers that opposes the Buddhist teachings because Buddhism teaches anatta (nots-self). Such a Mara does not necessarily need to be intrinsically evil. Karmically, they simply need to act with the good intention that the Buddhist teachings of anatta are not beneficial to the majority of people. Therefore, their karma will not necessarily result in a loss of their supernormal powers since opposing Buddhism is not inherently bad karma for them.

Or less insidiously, such Mara may simply be testing the Buddhas & arahants.

> **Comments:**
> **username_2**: This is very interesting although I am not sure if it is doctrinally accurate since it's rather speculative. Interestingly in fact from the Mahayana standpoint they equate the Dharma, that is the Truth, Law and Teachings of the Cosmos to be equivalent to the Celestial Buddha, that is the true Body (Dharmakaya) of the Buddha (and everyone else). That is more or less very similar to the concept of God, but one that is utterly impartial.  
> **username_1**: What was referred to as 'doctrine' is also speculative. Also, as it was inferred, the gods of Judea-Christianity are not exactly impartial. Strange how Mahayana equates Buddha with God when the Buddha did not.  
> **username_2**: Well 'doctrine' as espoused by a religious community? If one person has a religious concept but that is not shared by a group of like minded thinkers then they can be labeled 'heretical'.  
> **username_1**: Since when were 'communities' the truth? There are many communities or sects that claim to represent Buddhism; each with different ideas.  
> **username_2**: "Strange how Mahayana equates Buddha with God when the Buddha did not" Actually I think it's more like everyone is an aspect of the ultimate reality. The Dhammadhatu so to speak.  
> **username_0**: pardon me if i got this wrong, Lord Buddha never said the Anatta is bad for anyone or that it is useless for some. Lord Buddha said that only some are  capable of seeing it and therefore Buddhism is for the ones who are wise enough to understand it's value  
> **username_1**: "...the bewildered Vacchagotta would become even more bewildered..." SN 44.10  
> **username_1**: SN 55.53 " Sir exhort us for our benefit"...:"Dhammadinna, dwell upon emptiness (sunnata)"..."But sir, it is not easy for us dwelling in a home crowded with children, enjoying sensual pleasures,, to dwell upon emptiness"..."Then, Dhammadinna, you should train yourself to possess faith in the Buddha, Dhamma & Sangha, well possessed in virtue (sila) leading to concentration"...  

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### Answer by username_3 on 2016-05-12. Score: 1

There are no stories within the Pāli canon that I know that describe how one becomes a Mara though there are accounts of others who have been maras in a previous life (Moggallana being one of them. See [MN 50](http://www.basicbuddhism.org/resources/sutta/MN50_Maratajjaniya_Sutta.pdf)). There is also a sutta in which the Buddha declares that it is impossible for a woman to become a Māra (See MN 115 § 15). The Buddha does explain how one can become a deva [of the gandhabba order] in [SN 31.2](http://awake.kiev.ua/dhamma/tipitaka/2Sutta-Pitaka/3Samyutta-Nikaya/Samyutta3/30-Gandhabbakaya-Samyutta/01-Gandhabbavaggo-e.html). I don't know that the doing the opposite would direct one to becoming a Mara.

> **Comments:**
> **username_4**: Hi @username_3 "it is impossible for a woman to become a Māra" is not properly phrased I believe.  The proper phrasing would be "Mara cannot arise in female form" or a "Mara cannot be born as a female".  
> **username_0**: Kaveenga is correct. Sometimes Potato is not potato  

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### Answer by username_5 on 2018-06-07. Score: 1

Mara is the most powerful being in all the sensual realms, He resides in the highest sensual adobe called paranimmita-vasavatti. where one day is equal to 1600 earth years.

It is not easy to become Mara, Through shear will power one has to observe the precepts well & practice generosity .
Mara being the highest sensual being surpasses all the other devas in the heavenly realms in the following ways (Exceeds in Life-span, exceeds in beauty, exceeds in sensual pleasures, exceeds in glory, Exceeds in power).

**Mara surpasses all devas with respect to Life-span, unmatched beauty etc... due to the fact that in the previous lives he has abstained from killing, Stealing & sexual misconduct & Drinking. All Unwholesome actions done involving the body.
This is the reason he surpasses all other devas in life, beauty, power etc..**

There is one sutta in Tibetan Buddhism, says - That Mara has the most largest & most powerful demonic army in the 31 planes of existence at his command.  
This army consists of 10 regiments with powerful/hideous demons,
**it is said that this army weighs 10x times the weight of the earth.**

It was because that some one has observed the precepts & practiced generosity\*\*(wholesome karamic effects)\*\* in a massive scale but haven't listened & thought about dharma (wisdom), this is the reason to become mara.


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