<p>Stream-winning is experiencing the absence of self is peaceful &amp; liberating, which also results in unshakable faith (trust) in the teachings. </p>

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2017-12-10T12:40:46.170Z
2017-12-10T12:40:46.170Z
Dhamma Dhatu
<p>It could be access concentration or first jhana.  In that case, good job!  Remember not to yearn for it when you next meditate.  Just do what you've been doing.</p>

<p>On the other hand, you say the space was "cloudy" which means that you could still be struggling with subtle dullness.  Make sure your awareness is still intact throughout the meditation.</p>

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2017-12-10T14:18:49.080Z
2017-12-10T14:18:49.080Z
J. Lee Nelson
<p>Have experience when notting  the thoughts  as impermanence disappears the body and thoughts  together  .But still  there's somebody looking at and it goes into a  cloudy space. What is this experience?Is it stream winner?</p>

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Personal practice regarding stream entry
# Personal practice regarding stream entry

(Asked by: username_0 on 2017-12-10)

Have experience when notting the thoughts as impermanence disappears the body and thoughts together .But still there's somebody looking at and it goes into a cloudy space. What is this experience?Is it stream winner?

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2017-12-10. Score: 2

Stream-winning is experiencing the absence of self is peaceful & liberating, which also results in unshakable faith (trust) in the teachings.


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### Answer by username_2 on 2017-12-10. Score: 2

It could be access concentration or first jhana. In that case, good job! Remember not to yearn for it when you next meditate. Just do what you've been doing.

On the other hand, you say the space was "cloudy" which means that you could still be struggling with subtle dullness. Make sure your awareness is still intact throughout the meditation.


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