<p>Gyre Sage is a 1/2 without any modifications to its power or toughness.</p>
<p>When Joraga Warcaller enters the battlefield, kicked 3 times, it enters as a 4/4 creature. However, its third ability - &quot;Other Elf creatures you control get +1/+1 for each +1/+1 counter on Joraga Warcaller&quot; – immediately begins to apply as soon as it enters, so Gyre Sage immediately becomes a 4/5.</p>
<p>Because Joraga Warcaller has neither power nor toughness greater than Gyre Sage, its evolve ability will not trigger. It won't get a +1/+1 counter as a result of it entering.</p>
<p>Note that Joraga Warcaller does not place +1/+1 counters onto Gyre Sage - so Gyre Sage doesn't produce any additional mana as a result of this 'anthem' effect.</p>

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That's what I was thinking for the mana production. You have to separete the +1/+1 counters to the +1/+1. And thanks for the precision on the third ability I totaly missed that.
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<p>I have a <a href="https://gatherer.wizards.com/pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=366289" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Gyre Sage</a> with no counters on it in play and I play <a href="https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=390580" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Joraga Warcaller</a> multikicked 3 times. I get a +1/+1 counter on Gyre Sage because of the evolve and 3 +1/+1. The question is: How much mana does Gyre Sage produce with its activated ability?</p>

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Gyre Sage with Joraga Warcaller +1/+1 comprehension
Alexis Vallauri
# Gyre Sage with Joraga Warcaller +1/+1 comprehension

(Asked by: username_0 on 2024-10-02)

I have a [Gyre Sage](https://gatherer.wizards.com/pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=366289) with no counters on it in play and I play [Joraga Warcaller](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=390580) multikicked 3 times. I get a +1/+1 counter on Gyre Sage because of the evolve and 3 +1/+1. The question is: How much mana does Gyre Sage produce with its activated ability?

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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2024-10-02. Score: 3 | Accepted answer

Gyre Sage is a 1/2 without any modifications to its power or toughness.

When Joraga Warcaller enters the battlefield, kicked 3 times, it enters as a 4/4 creature. However, its third ability - "Other Elf creatures you control get +1/+1 for each +1/+1 counter on Joraga Warcaller" – immediately begins to apply as soon as it enters, so Gyre Sage immediately becomes a 4/5.

Because Joraga Warcaller has neither power nor toughness greater than Gyre Sage, its evolve ability will not trigger. It won't get a +1/+1 counter as a result of it entering.

Note that Joraga Warcaller does not place +1/+1 counters onto Gyre Sage - so Gyre Sage doesn't produce any additional mana as a result of this 'anthem' effect.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: That's what I was thinking for the mana production. You have to separete the +1/+1 counters to the +1/+1. And thanks for the precision on the third ability I totaly missed that.  

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