<p><a href="http://mtgcommander.net/rules.php" rel="noreferrer">Per the official rules on mtgcommander.net</a>,</p>
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<p>If a player has been dealt 21 points of <strong>combat damage</strong> by a particular Commander during the game, that player loses a game.</p>
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<p>&quot;Combat damage&quot; refers only to damage dealt in combat as a result of attacking and blocking; direct-damage abilities don't count. Note also that <a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Obzedat%2C%20Ghost%20Council">Obzedat, Ghost Council</a>'s triggered ability doesn't <em>deal damage</em>: it simply causes your opponent to <em>lose life</em>.</p>

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Alex P
<p>From the <a href="http://www.wizards.com/Magic/TCG/Article.aspx?x=magic/rules" rel="nofollow">Comprehensive Rules</a></p>

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  <p>104.3j In a Commander game, a player that's been <strong>dealt 21 or more combat damage</strong> by the same Commander over the course of the game loses the game. (This is a state-based action. See rule 704. Also see rule 903.14)</p>
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user1873
<p>Do the effects of a Commander that deal (non-combat) damage, such as <a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Obzedat%2C%20Ghost%20Council">Obzedat, Ghost Council</a>, count towards Commander damage?</p>
<p>I have not been able to find whether or not it has to be, specifically, combat damage, or simply damage dealt by the Commander.</p>

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Does non-combat damage affect Commander damage?
Connor
# Does non-combat damage affect Commander damage?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2013-03-01)

Do the effects of a Commander that deal (non-combat) damage, such as [Obzedat, Ghost Council](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Obzedat%2C%20Ghost%20Council), count towards Commander damage?

I have not been able to find whether or not it has to be, specifically, combat damage, or simply damage dealt by the Commander.

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2013-03-01. Score: 12

[Per the official rules on mtgcommander.net](http://mtgcommander.net/rules.php),

> If a player has been dealt 21 points of **combat damage** by a particular Commander during the game, that player loses a game.

"Combat damage" refers only to damage dealt in combat as a result of attacking and blocking; direct-damage abilities don't count. Note also that [Obzedat, Ghost Council](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Obzedat%2C%20Ghost%20Council)'s triggered ability doesn't *deal damage*: it simply causes your opponent to *lose life*.


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### Answer by username_2 on 2013-03-01. Score: 2

From the [Comprehensive Rules](http://www.wizards.com/Magic/TCG/Article.aspx?x=magic/rules)

> 104.3j In a Commander game, a player that's been **dealt 21 or more combat damage** by the same Commander over the course of the game loses the game. (This is a state-based action. See rule 704. Also see rule 903.14)


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