<p><strong>Yes</strong>,</p>
<p>This is answered by the online Catan <a href="http://www.catan.com/faq/24-cities-and-knights/1016-barbarians-ii-players-win-can-the-players-win-against-the-barbarians-if-there-is-not-one-single-city-on-catan.html" rel="noreferrer">FAQ</a>.</p>
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<p>Can the players win against the barbarians if there is not one single city on Catan?</p>
<p>Yes</p>
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2011-09-23T20:51:10.007Z
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Pat Ludwig
<p><strong>No,</strong></p>

<p>but that's if you're playing the English variant.  In that variant, each player chooses how much to contribute to the defense of Catan.  A player isn't allowed to defend Catan if they have no cities, thus no-one can win and get a reward.</p>

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2012-02-14T19:43:57.090Z
This question is not about having no knights, it is about having no cities.
Greg
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2011-11-23T09:30:30.427Z
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xorsyst
<p>If there are no cities on the board, barbarian strength is rated at zero.  So automatically the players have tied or beaten the barbarians.  Are progress cards allocated under these circumstances?  If there are activated knights on the board, can a victory point be achieved?</p>

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Are progress cards awarded if the barbarian strength is 0?
Roger Friedland
# Are progress cards awarded if the barbarian strength is 0?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2011-09-23)

If there are no cities on the board, barbarian strength is rated at zero. So automatically the players have tied or beaten the barbarians. Are progress cards allocated under these circumstances? If there are activated knights on the board, can a victory point be achieved?

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2011-09-23. Score: 8

**Yes**,

This is answered by the online Catan [FAQ](http://www.catan.com/faq/24-cities-and-knights/1016-barbarians-ii-players-win-can-the-players-win-against-the-barbarians-if-there-is-not-one-single-city-on-catan.html).

> Can the players win against the barbarians if there is not one single city on Catan?
>
> Yes


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### Answer by username_2 on 2011-11-23. Score: 0

**No,**

but that's if you're playing the English variant. In that variant, each player chooses how much to contribute to the defense of Catan. A player isn't allowed to defend Catan if they have no cities, thus no-one can win and get a reward.

> **Comments:**
> **username_3**: This question is not about having no knights, it is about having no cities.  

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