<p>Yes, it is powerful, but for 7 that is to be expected.</p>

<p>Targeting a creature affected by Dismiss Into Dream will have them sacrificed before the spell/ability targeting them resolves. This is because the effect created by Dismiss Into Dream will go on the stack after the spell targeting the creature.</p>

<p>To address your specific questions:</p>

<p>No on your combo with living inferno, a ruling on gatherer prevents you from assigning 0 damage:</p>

<p><a href="http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=96874" rel="nofollow">http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=96874</a></p>

<blockquote>
  <p>You divide the damage among the target creatures as you activate Living Inferno's ability. Each target must be assigned at least 1 damage.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Yes, on your combo with Cauldron of souls. </p>

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2013-07-15T19:04:24.970Z
Oooo this makes me happy. I also am looking at Sea King's Blessing for a U board wipe.. This is extra good since I play multiplayer often, this sort of thing tends to pay off quite well. Thanks for the answer! As a side note, I did read your first paragraph, with the stack. So wouldn't Living Inferno get dealt a ton of damage after all the creatures are sacrificed? Or does his ability look for the creatures at the time of resolution?
Milo Gertjejansen
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2013-07-15T19:16:35.793Z
@MiloGertjejansen good question... I do not know the answer. The damage dealt to living inferno is determined at resolution time while the creatures are in the graveyard.
Colin D
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2013-07-15T19:50:44.027Z
Yeah, that's something I would have to look into. Also, it applies for the Cauldron: The cards would be in the graveyard when they gained persist in which case, they probably wouldn't return at all, since they didn't die with persist.
Milo Gertjejansen
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2013-07-15T19:53:57.160Z
For the cauldron, they would not come back. The wording on persist says something like 'when a card with persist goes to the graveyard and does not have a -1/-1 counter' IIRC. They would be in the graveyard before having persist.
Colin D
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2013-07-15T19:59:41.943Z
Got it. Cool. Do you know where I could look up something like the ruling on Living Inferno? Or at this point would I have to just find someone who knows the rulings on that?
Milo Gertjejansen
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2013-07-15T20:01:03.200Z
@MiloGertjejansen Ask it on this site as a new question. There are lots of people on this site that will know the answer.
Colin D
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2013-07-15T20:24:15.563Z
Done. http://boardgames.stackexchange.com/questions/12482/if-creatures-targeted-by-living-infernos-ability-all-die-what-happens
Milo Gertjejansen
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2013-07-15T21:45:25.320Z
Living Inferno's ability fizzles.  It never takes damage
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Colin D
<p>So, at the Prerelease this past weekend I pulled a <a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Dismiss%20Into%20Dream">Dismiss Into Dream</a> from the packs I won.</p>
<p>I LOVE the flavor of this card and I think I could abuse it. I wanted to check on rulings though:</p>
<ol>
<li><p>Dismiss Into Dream + <a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Living%20Inferno">Living Inferno</a>: Would I be able to declare the targets and then they would all have to be sacrificed before they dealt damage to Living Inferno? And furthermore, could I choose any number and just have them all take 0 damage?</p>
</li>
<li><p>Dismiss Into Dream + <a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Cauldron%20of%20Souls">Cauldron of Souls</a>: Same sort of question: Could I target them then they have to be sacrificed before the creatures get Persist?</p>
</li>
</ol>

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2013-07-15T19:44:22.627Z
A lot of 7 drops can be "abused" - I think the idea is if you can play a 7 drop in a constructed format, it really should win you the game.
corsiKa
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2013-07-15T19:49:11.473Z
@corsiKa I almost exclusively play casual and limited. And the casual I play is very, very slow multiplayer (most often) which means we get to set up grand strategies and execute them. It's a pretty good time and this card fits perfectly into what I play.
Milo Gertjejansen
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2013-07-16T18:20:03.543Z
@MiloGertjejansen Here's a [gatherer search](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?page=1&text=+%5B%22any%20number%20of%20target%20creatures%22%5D) with more "any number of target creature" options. [Sway of Illusion](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=22999) in particular seems to fit perfectly mechanically and thematically. A board wipe when Dismiss into Dream is in play, *and* draw a card, all for the low cost of two mana! [Artful Dodge](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=262840) also seems an exceptional fit.
ghoppe
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2013-07-16T22:37:08.230Z
@ghoppe Thanks! I did see those and I added them to my deck list. I am getting pretty excited for this deck with the release of M14.
Milo Gertjejansen
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2013-07-22T21:41:41.117Z
Just remember to target one of your own creatures with Sway of illusion so that it still resolves and you get your card! :)
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Can I combo Dismiss Into Dream with Living Inferno or Cauldron of Souls?
Milo Gertjejansen
# Can I combo Dismiss Into Dream with Living Inferno or Cauldron of Souls?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2013-07-15)

So, at the Prerelease this past weekend I pulled a [Dismiss Into Dream](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Dismiss%20Into%20Dream) from the packs I won.

I LOVE the flavor of this card and I think I could abuse it. I wanted to check on rulings though:

1. Dismiss Into Dream + [Living Inferno](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Living%20Inferno): Would I be able to declare the targets and then they would all have to be sacrificed before they dealt damage to Living Inferno? And furthermore, could I choose any number and just have them all take 0 damage?
2. Dismiss Into Dream + [Cauldron of Souls](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Cauldron%20of%20Souls): Same sort of question: Could I target them then they have to be sacrificed before the creatures get Persist?

**Tags:** magic-the-gathering

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: A lot of 7 drops can be "abused" - I think the idea is if you can play a 7 drop in a constructed format, it really should win you the game.  
> **username_0**: @username_1 I almost exclusively play casual and limited. And the casual I play is very, very slow multiplayer (most often) which means we get to set up grand strategies and execute them. It's a pretty good time and this card fits perfectly into what I play.  
> **username_2**: @MiloGertjejansen Here's a [gatherer search](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?page=1&text=+%5B%22any%20number%20of%20target%20creatures%22%5D) with more "any number of target creature" options. [Sway of Illusion](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=22999) in particular seems to fit perfectly mechanically and thematically. A board wipe when Dismiss into Dream is in play, *and* draw a card, all for the low cost of two mana! [Artful Dodge](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=262840) also seems an exceptional fit.  
> **username_0**: @username_2 Thanks! I did see those and I added them to my deck list. I am getting pretty excited for this deck with the release of M14.  
> **username_3**: Just remember to target one of your own creatures with Sway of illusion so that it still resolves and you get your card! :)  

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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_4 on 2013-07-15. Score: 3 | Accepted answer

Yes, it is powerful, but for 7 that is to be expected.

Targeting a creature affected by Dismiss Into Dream will have them sacrificed before the spell/ability targeting them resolves. This is because the effect created by Dismiss Into Dream will go on the stack after the spell targeting the creature.

To address your specific questions:

No on your combo with living inferno, a ruling on gatherer prevents you from assigning 0 damage:

<http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=96874>

> You divide the damage among the target creatures as you activate Living Inferno's ability. Each target must be assigned at least 1 damage.

Yes, on your combo with Cauldron of souls.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: Oooo this makes me happy. I also am looking at Sea King's Blessing for a U board wipe.. This is extra good since I play multiplayer often, this sort of thing tends to pay off quite well. Thanks for the answer! As a side note, I did read your first paragraph, with the stack. So wouldn't Living Inferno get dealt a ton of damage after all the creatures are sacrificed? Or does his ability look for the creatures at the time of resolution?  
> **username_4**: @MiloGertjejansen good question... I do not know the answer. The damage dealt to living inferno is determined at resolution time while the creatures are in the graveyard.  
> **username_0**: Yeah, that's something I would have to look into. Also, it applies for the Cauldron: The cards would be in the graveyard when they gained persist in which case, they probably wouldn't return at all, since they didn't die with persist.  
> **username_4**: For the cauldron, they would not come back. The wording on persist says something like 'when a card with persist goes to the graveyard and does not have a -1/-1 counter' IIRC. They would be in the graveyard before having persist.  
> **username_0**: Got it. Cool. Do you know where I could look up something like the ruling on Living Inferno? Or at this point would I have to just find someone who knows the rulings on that?  
> **username_4**: @MiloGertjejansen Ask it on this site as a new question. There are lots of people on this site that will know the answer.  
> **username_0**: Done. http://boardgames.stackexchange.com/questions/12482/if-creatures-targeted-by-living-infernos-ability-all-die-what-happens  
> **username_5**: Living Inferno's ability fizzles.  It never takes damage  

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