<p>It depends on the card in question. If it can't be determined use 0.</p>
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<p>208.2a The card may have a characteristic-defining ability that sets its power and/or toughness according to some stated condition. (See
rule 604.3.) Such an ability is worded &quot;[This creature's] [power or
toughness] is equal to . . .&quot; or &quot;[This creature's] power and
toughness are each equal to . . .&quot; <strong>This ability functions everywhere</strong>,
even outside the game. If the ability needs to use a number that can't
be determined, including inside a calculation, use 0 instead of that
number. Example: Lost Order of Jarkeld has power and toughness each
equal to 1+*. It has the abilities &quot;As Lost Order of Jarkeld enters
the battlefield, choose an opponent&quot; and &quot;Lost Order of Jarkeld's
power and toughness are each equal to 1 plus the number of creatures
the chosen player controls.&quot; While Lost Order of Jarkeld isn't on the
battlefield, there won't be a chosen player. Its power and toughness
will each be equal to 1 plus 0, so it's 1/1.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>When you scavenge <a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Boneyard%20Wurm">Boneyard Wurm</a> you will get a number of +1/+1 counters equal the number of creatures in your graveyard before Boneyard Wurm is exiled. (A ruling on <a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Varolz%2C%20the%20Scar-Striped">Varolz, the Scar-Striped</a> reads: <em>The number of counters that a card’s scavenge ability puts on a creature is based on the card’s power as it last existed in the graveyard</em>.)</p>

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<p>If a creature has a P/T of *** / ***, but is not the battlefield, What is it's P/T with regards to effects that care about P/T such as <a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Wild%20Pair">Wild Pair</a> and <a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Varolz%2C%20the%20Scar-Striped">Varolz, the Scar-Striped</a>.</p>
<p>If I used <a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Varolz%2C%20the%20Scar-Striped">Varolz, the Scar-Striped</a> to scavenge a <a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Boneyard%20Wurm">Boneyard Wurm</a>, and I have X creatures in my graveyard, do I get 0 counters or do I get X counters?</p>

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You should accept Collin's answer. PS this also works with [Tarmagoyf](http://gatherer.wizards.com/pages/card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=136142).
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What is the Power/Toughness of a */* when it is not on the battlefield?
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# What is the Power/Toughness of a */* when it is not on the battlefield?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2013-05-07)

If a creature has a P/T of \*\*\* / \*\*\*, but is not the battlefield, What is it's P/T with regards to effects that care about P/T such as [Wild Pair](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Wild%20Pair) and [Varolz, the Scar-Striped](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Varolz%2C%20the%20Scar-Striped).

If I used [Varolz, the Scar-Striped](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Varolz%2C%20the%20Scar-Striped) to scavenge a [Boneyard Wurm](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Boneyard%20Wurm), and I have X creatures in my graveyard, do I get 0 counters or do I get X counters?

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> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: You should accept Collin's answer. PS this also works with [Tarmagoyf](http://gatherer.wizards.com/pages/card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=136142).  

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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_2 on 2013-05-07. Score: 26 | Accepted answer

It depends on the card in question. If it can't be determined use 0.

> 208.2a The card may have a characteristic-defining ability that sets its power and/or toughness according to some stated condition. (See
> rule 604.3.) Such an ability is worded "[This creature's] [power or
> toughness] is equal to . . ." or "[This creature's] power and
> toughness are each equal to . . ." **This ability functions everywhere**,
> even outside the game. If the ability needs to use a number that can't
> be determined, including inside a calculation, use 0 instead of that
> number. Example: Lost Order of Jarkeld has power and toughness each
> equal to 1+\*. It has the abilities "As Lost Order of Jarkeld enters
> the battlefield, choose an opponent" and "Lost Order of Jarkeld's
> power and toughness are each equal to 1 plus the number of creatures
> the chosen player controls." While Lost Order of Jarkeld isn't on the
> battlefield, there won't be a chosen player. Its power and toughness
> will each be equal to 1 plus 0, so it's 1/1.

When you scavenge [Boneyard Wurm](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Boneyard%20Wurm) you will get a number of +1/+1 counters equal the number of creatures in your graveyard before Boneyard Wurm is exiled. (A ruling on [Varolz, the Scar-Striped](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Varolz%2C%20the%20Scar-Striped) reads: *The number of counters that a card’s scavenge ability puts on a creature is based on the card’s power as it last existed in the graveyard*.)


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