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  <p>Monster</p>
  
  <p>When a Monster has lost Health equal to or greater than its toughness, it is defeated.</p>
  
  <p>When a Monster is defeated or discarded, it is returned to the Monster cup and the cup is randomized.</p>
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<p>If you have to encounter something (such as an ambush) on a temporary basis and are able to do enough damage to it in one go to kill it, then it is considered 'defeated'.  However, it does make a distinction here about both 'defeated' and 'discarded'.  This means that, as far as I can tell, there is a precedence about the difference between the two.  So, no, discarding does not equal defeated.</p>

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<p>One of the Shub-Niggurath mysteries calls for action after a monster is defeated.  Does this include when you discard a monster from a Tokyo encounter or kill it from inducing a loss of health from Tokyo?  With no further clarification on the wording, I would think discarding an entire monster would be considered defeating it as it gets blasted from the Earth.</p>

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When a monster is discarded, is it considered "defeated"?
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# When a monster is discarded, is it considered "defeated"?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2015-08-15)

One of the Shub-Niggurath mysteries calls for action after a monster is defeated. Does this include when you discard a monster from a Tokyo encounter or kill it from inducing a loss of health from Tokyo? With no further clarification on the wording, I would think discarding an entire monster would be considered defeating it as it gets blasted from the Earth.

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### Answer by username_1 on 2015-08-17. Score: 4 | Accepted answer

Page 8 of the Reference Guide

> Monster
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> When a Monster has lost Health equal to or greater than its toughness, it is defeated.
>
> When a Monster is defeated or discarded, it is returned to the Monster cup and the cup is randomized.

If you have to encounter something (such as an ambush) on a temporary basis and are able to do enough damage to it in one go to kill it, then it is considered 'defeated'. However, it does make a distinction here about both 'defeated' and 'discarded'. This means that, as far as I can tell, there is a precedence about the difference between the two. So, no, discarding does not equal defeated.


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