<p><strong>It will be exiled because of the Finality counter.</strong></p>
<p>Persist will not do anything, because persist is a triggered ability that triggers when a creature goes to the graveyard, while finality is a replacement ability that prevents the creature from ever going to the graveyard in the first place.</p>
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<p>122.1h One or more finality counters on a permanent create a single replacement effect that stops the permanent from going to the graveyard. That effect is “<strong>If this permanent would be put into a graveyard from the battlefield, exile it instead</strong>.”</p>
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<p>702.79a Persist is a triggered ability. “Persist” means “<strong>When this permanent is put into a graveyard from the battlefield</strong>, if it had no -1/-1 counters on it, return it to the battlefield under its owner’s control with a -1/-1 counter on it.”</p>
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<p>A player in my pod played <a href="https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=642440" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Admiral Brass, Unsinkable</a> which puts a finality counter on his pirate when they enter the battlefield from their graveyard during combat. I had a <a href="https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=152065" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Cauldron of Souls</a> which lets me give any number of creatures persist until end of turn which allows them to come back to the battlefield with a -1/-1 counter if they died.</p>
<p>So when a creature with a Finality counter dies would it come back to the battlefield with a -1/-1 counter because of Persist or would it go to exile?</p>

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How does Persist and Finality interact with each other?
John Odom
# How does Persist and Finality interact with each other?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2024-02-18)

A player in my pod played [Admiral Brass, Unsinkable](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=642440) which puts a finality counter on his pirate when they enter the battlefield from their graveyard during combat. I had a [Cauldron of Souls](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=152065) which lets me give any number of creatures persist until end of turn which allows them to come back to the battlefield with a -1/-1 counter if they died.

So when a creature with a Finality counter dies would it come back to the battlefield with a -1/-1 counter because of Persist or would it go to exile?

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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2024-02-18. Score: 10 | Accepted answer

**It will be exiled because of the Finality counter.**

Persist will not do anything, because persist is a triggered ability that triggers when a creature goes to the graveyard, while finality is a replacement ability that prevents the creature from ever going to the graveyard in the first place.

> 122.1h One or more finality counters on a permanent create a single replacement effect that stops the permanent from going to the graveyard. That effect is “**If this permanent would be put into a graveyard from the battlefield, exile it instead**.”

> 702.79a Persist is a triggered ability. “Persist” means “**When this permanent is put into a graveyard from the battlefield**, if it had no -1/-1 counters on it, return it to the battlefield under its owner’s control with a -1/-1 counter on it.”


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