<p>Player B wins. All that matters is the best 5 card hand you can make with the combined 7 cards. So player A does NOT have a pair of 4 as a kicker... player A has K,K,Q,Q,4. Player B has K,K,Q,Q,A. Both identical 2 pairs, but player B has A which beats 4.</p>

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2013-12-19T14:16:03.823Z
2013-12-19T14:16:03.823Z
GendoIkari
<p>The best "hand" of <strong>five</strong> cards wins. That is two pair: KK QQ A kicker, and player B wins.  </p>

<p>Player A has a pair of fours that "doesn't play" because there are already two pairs on the board (and no room for a third pair in a five card hand). But player B's ace kicker <strong>does</strong> play (and beat's Player A's 4-kicker).</p>

<p>Change the board to KKQ32, and Player A wins, because he has two pair, kings over fours, with a Q kicker, while player B has one pair, KK with an ace kicker. The second queen "counterfeited" Player A's second pair by giving player B a second (higher) one.</p>

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2013-12-22T19:38:41.127Z
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Tom Au
<p>player A : 4,4<br>
player B : A,10<br>
board : K,K,Q,Q,2</p>

<p>Which player wins? I guess Player B but player A claims he has a pair of 4 which is a bigger kicker. who is correct?</p>

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When both players have the same 2 pair, can a 3rd pair be used as a valid kicker?
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# When both players have the same 2 pair, can a 3rd pair be used as a valid kicker?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2013-12-19)

player A : 4,4  
player B : A,10  
board : K,K,Q,Q,2

Which player wins? I guess Player B but player A claims he has a pair of 4 which is a bigger kicker. who is correct?

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2013-12-19. Score: 24

Player B wins. All that matters is the best 5 card hand you can make with the combined 7 cards. So player A does NOT have a pair of 4 as a kicker... player A has K,K,Q,Q,4. Player B has K,K,Q,Q,A. Both identical 2 pairs, but player B has A which beats 4.


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### Answer by username_2 on 2013-12-20. Score: 6

The best "hand" of **five** cards wins. That is two pair: KK QQ A kicker, and player B wins.

Player A has a pair of fours that "doesn't play" because there are already two pairs on the board (and no room for a third pair in a five card hand). But player B's ace kicker **does** play (and beat's Player A's 4-kicker).

Change the board to KKQ32, and Player A wins, because he has two pair, kings over fours, with a Q kicker, while player B has one pair, KK with an ace kicker. The second queen "counterfeited" Player A's second pair by giving player B a second (higher) one.


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