<p>Your opponent could have declared that token as an attacker, then sacrificed it before actual combat damage happened. It would have counted as <em>attacking</em> &mdash; at least until it was sacrificed &mdash; but it wouldn't have actually done any combat damage to its blocker.</p>

<p>The combat phase works like this:</p>

<blockquote>
  <ol>
  <li>Beginning of Combat Step
  <ol>
  <li>Nothing has happened yet, but you're considered to be inside the combat phase. Players can cast spells and use abilities.</li>
  </ol></li>
  <li>Declare Attackers Step
  <ol>
  <li>The active player may declare which of their creatures are attacking.</li>
  <li>Those attacking creatures get tapped. They're now considered to be <em>Attacking</em> for the rest of the combat phase, even if something untaps them somehow.</li>
  <li>Players may now cast spells and use abilities before moving on.</li>
  </ol></li>
  <li>Declare Blockers Step
  <ol>
  <li>The inactive player may declare which of their creatures are blocking.</li>
  <li>The inactive player assigns the blocking creatures among the attackers. These creatures are now considered <em>Blocking</em> for the remainder of combat, even if something taps them somehow. Any attacker assigned a blocking creature is now considered <em>Blocked</em> for the remainder of combat, even if its blocker disappears, and will not deal combat damage to you personally (unless it has trample, or something else that lets it do that).</li>
  <li>Players may now cast spells and use abilities <em>again</em> before moving on.</li>
  </ol></li>
  <li>Combat damage happens.
  <ol>
  <li>Any attacking creatures still alive and present at this point attack their blockers and/or the opposing player/planeswalker/etc.
  Nobody can cast spells during this process.</li>
  </ol></li>
  <li>Combat finishes, the board gets cleaned up (dead creatures removed, etc).</li>
  </ol>
</blockquote>

<p>It sounds like the Goblin in question was given a blocker during the Declare Blockers step. At that point, the other player <em>does</em> have the opportunity use an ability to sacrifice the goblin, and if the goblin is doomed to die, that's probably a good choice.</p>

<p>However, once combat damage happens, that sacrificed goblin won't be around anymore. You say this:</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>I'm new to the game, but it seems to me that if he sacrificed it prior to its attack, it shouldn't have counted as an attack.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>It will have counted as <em>attacking</em>, but since it's dead by the combat damage step, it's gone and won't actually <em>be there</em> to do anything. Your blocker won't take damage from the goblin, for instance - the goblin will be dead and gone.</p>

<p>(There was a time in the past when you could cast spells and use abilities <em>during</em> combat damage, so that the goblin could deal combat damage <em>and</em> get sacrificed too, but that was <em>weird</em> and got removed from the rules a few years ago in M10.)</p>

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Has it already been 5 years!
ikegami
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+1 for the last parenthetical. Big rule changes like this one are super tricky, especially in a population where people may play for years without ever knowing about the change unless they play competitively.
Henry Keiter
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<p>Earlier tonight, I was playing magic. My opponent had a card out that allowed him to place a 2/2 goblin token on the board for every creature that made an attack. He also had one out that allowed him to sacrifice one of his creatures and destroy any nonland permanent.</p>

<p>He declared an attack with one of the goblin tokens, thus placing another goblin token on the board. He then sacrificed the attacking token before it attacked and my blocker destroyed it.</p>

<p>I'm new to the game, but it seems to me that if he sacrificed it prior to its attack, it shouldn't have counted as an attack. So he couldn't have placed the new token on the board. Am I wrong?</p>

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Could you name the cards being used here? That would let us more concretely discuss the situation. Namely, the card that let your opponent place goblins, and the card used to sacrifice one.
doppelgreener
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2014-07-04T09:18:12.790Z
Seems likely that OP is talking about a card with an attach trigger (like Brimaz), in which case it is useful to distinguish between triggered abilities that are "whenever ~ attacks" vs. "whenever ~ deals combat damage to a player".
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Can you sacrifice a creature that's in the middle of an attack?
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# Can you sacrifice a creature that's in the middle of an attack?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2014-07-04)

Earlier tonight, I was playing magic. My opponent had a card out that allowed him to place a 2/2 goblin token on the board for every creature that made an attack. He also had one out that allowed him to sacrifice one of his creatures and destroy any nonland permanent.

He declared an attack with one of the goblin tokens, thus placing another goblin token on the board. He then sacrificed the attacking token before it attacked and my blocker destroyed it.

I'm new to the game, but it seems to me that if he sacrificed it prior to its attack, it shouldn't have counted as an attack. So he couldn't have placed the new token on the board. Am I wrong?

**Tags:** magic-the-gathering

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: Could you name the cards being used here? That would let us more concretely discuss the situation. Namely, the card that let your opponent place goblins, and the card used to sacrifice one.  
> **username_2**: Seems likely that OP is talking about a card with an attach trigger (like Brimaz), in which case it is useful to distinguish between triggered abilities that are "whenever ~ attacks" vs. "whenever ~ deals combat damage to a player".  

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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2014-07-04. Score: 15

Your opponent could have declared that token as an attacker, then sacrificed it before actual combat damage happened. It would have counted as *attacking* — at least until it was sacrificed — but it wouldn't have actually done any combat damage to its blocker.

The combat phase works like this:

> 1. Beginning of Combat Step
>    1. Nothing has happened yet, but you're considered to be inside the combat phase. Players can cast spells and use abilities.
> 2. Declare Attackers Step
>    1. The active player may declare which of their creatures are attacking.
>    2. Those attacking creatures get tapped. They're now considered to be *Attacking* for the rest of the combat phase, even if something untaps them somehow.
>    3. Players may now cast spells and use abilities before moving on.
> 3. Declare Blockers Step
>    1. The inactive player may declare which of their creatures are blocking.
>    2. The inactive player assigns the blocking creatures among the attackers. These creatures are now considered *Blocking* for the remainder of combat, even if something taps them somehow. Any attacker assigned a blocking creature is now considered *Blocked* for the remainder of combat, even if its blocker disappears, and will not deal combat damage to you personally (unless it has trample, or something else that lets it do that).
>    3. Players may now cast spells and use abilities *again* before moving on.
> 4. Combat damage happens.
>    1. Any attacking creatures still alive and present at this point attack their blockers and/or the opposing player/planeswalker/etc.
>       Nobody can cast spells during this process.
> 5. Combat finishes, the board gets cleaned up (dead creatures removed, etc).

It sounds like the Goblin in question was given a blocker during the Declare Blockers step. At that point, the other player *does* have the opportunity use an ability to sacrifice the goblin, and if the goblin is doomed to die, that's probably a good choice.

However, once combat damage happens, that sacrificed goblin won't be around anymore. You say this:

> I'm new to the game, but it seems to me that if he sacrificed it prior to its attack, it shouldn't have counted as an attack.

It will have counted as *attacking*, but since it's dead by the combat damage step, it's gone and won't actually *be there* to do anything. Your blocker won't take damage from the goblin, for instance - the goblin will be dead and gone.

(There was a time in the past when you could cast spells and use abilities *during* combat damage, so that the goblin could deal combat damage *and* get sacrificed too, but that was *weird* and got removed from the rules a few years ago in M10.)

> **Comments:**
> **username_3**: Has it already been 5 years!  
> **username_4**: +1 for the last parenthetical. Big rule changes like this one are super tricky, especially in a population where people may play for years without ever knowing about the change unless they play competitively.  

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