<p>Short answer: in the 7th edition of WH40k, you can create an <em>X</em> point <em>Unbound</em> army from any units you have, so yes. (Note that <em>Unbound</em> armies have some limitations when it comes to holding objectives, etc., so look it up in the rulebook.)</p>

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<p>Longer answer: based on your comment to your question and depending on what rules your game group has on army building, you probably want to create a <em>Battle Forged</em> army, which you cannot create with the 1500 points of non-HQ <em>Grey Knights</em> and a <em>Dark Angels</em> HQ.</p>

<p><em>Grey Knights</em> and <em>Dark Angels</em> can be taken as allies, but as per the rules for taking allies, you need to take the allies in an <em>Allied Detachment</em> and your main force in a <em>Combined Arms Detachment</em>.</p>

<p>For a <em>Combined Arms Detachment</em> you need, and can have:</p>

<ul>
<li><strong>1-2 HQ</strong></li>
<li><strong>2-6 Troops</strong></li>
<li>0-3 Elites</li>
<li>0-3 Fast Attack</li>
<li>0-3 Heavy Support</li>
<li>0-1 Fortifications</li>
<li>0-1 Lord of War</li>
</ul>

<p>So you need at least one <em>Grey Knights</em> HQ for your main detachment. For an <em>Allied Detachment</em> you need, and can have:</p>

<ul>
<li><strong>1 HQ</strong></li>
<li><strong>1-2 Troops</strong></li>
<li>0-1 Elites</li>
<li>0-1 Fast Attack</li>
<li>0-1 Heavy Support</li>
</ul>

<p>So to wield <em>Ezekiel</em> with your <em>Grey Knights</em> in an appropriate detachment you would need to take at least one <em>Dark Angels</em> Troop with him.</p>

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<p>If you're just playing with your friends, you can probably agree with them that you would both play with 1500p, and you would just not have a HQ. But for more organised games, you need to get a <em>Grey Knights</em> HQ, but you would only need a single model to make your army follow the rules. After all, every army needs a leader!</p>

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V-J
<p>You couldn't take him inside a GK formation, but you could have him join a GK squad (say, Paladins with a Librarian) since he is an Independent Character.</p>

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<p>I have an Ezekiel, Grand Master of Librarians, which is a dark angels HQ and I have a grey knight army. Can I use Ezekiel as my HQ?</p>

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And if not what librarian can i use in the army? doesn't have to be a HQ.
Lewis Trantor
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Are you asking if you can combine two units in a single army, or are you asking if you can use one of them as your HQ?
Joe
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I have a full 1.5k point grey knight army but no HQ so can i use that dark angels librarian as my HQ?
Lewis Trantor
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# In warhammer 40k can I combines these armies?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2015-08-17)

I have an Ezekiel, Grand Master of Librarians, which is a dark angels HQ and I have a grey knight army. Can I use Ezekiel as my HQ?

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> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: And if not what librarian can i use in the army? doesn't have to be a HQ.  
> **username_1**: Are you asking if you can combine two units in a single army, or are you asking if you can use one of them as your HQ?  
> **username_0**: I have a full 1.5k point grey knight army but no HQ so can i use that dark angels librarian as my HQ?  

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## 2 answers

### Answer by username_2 on 2015-08-18. Score: 3

Short answer: in the 7th edition of WH40k, you can create an *X* point *Unbound* army from any units you have, so yes. (Note that *Unbound* armies have some limitations when it comes to holding objectives, etc., so look it up in the rulebook.)

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Longer answer: based on your comment to your question and depending on what rules your game group has on army building, you probably want to create a *Battle Forged* army, which you cannot create with the 1500 points of non-HQ *Grey Knights* and a *Dark Angels* HQ.

*Grey Knights* and *Dark Angels* can be taken as allies, but as per the rules for taking allies, you need to take the allies in an *Allied Detachment* and your main force in a *Combined Arms Detachment*.

For a *Combined Arms Detachment* you need, and can have:

* **1-2 HQ**
* **2-6 Troops**
* 0-3 Elites
* 0-3 Fast Attack
* 0-3 Heavy Support
* 0-1 Fortifications
* 0-1 Lord of War

So you need at least one *Grey Knights* HQ for your main detachment. For an *Allied Detachment* you need, and can have:

* **1 HQ**
* **1-2 Troops**
* 0-1 Elites
* 0-1 Fast Attack
* 0-1 Heavy Support

So to wield *Ezekiel* with your *Grey Knights* in an appropriate detachment you would need to take at least one *Dark Angels* Troop with him.

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If you're just playing with your friends, you can probably agree with them that you would both play with 1500p, and you would just not have a HQ. But for more organised games, you need to get a *Grey Knights* HQ, but you would only need a single model to make your army follow the rules. After all, every army needs a leader!


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### Answer by username_3 on 2016-11-18. Score: 0

You couldn't take him inside a GK formation, but you could have him join a GK squad (say, Paladins with a Librarian) since he is an Independent Character.


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