<p>The creators of the game responded to my inquiry:</p>

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  <p>Yes, this is possible, but if the target burns every token, he/she loses any chance of winning! So tormenting has to be played "not too aggressively" by Spirits, in order for the target to agree to a little loss - that's usually how we see it played!</p>
</blockquote>

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2012-12-28T10:59:34.947Z
I thought that "burning your entire supply of tokens in response to a torment attempt" was probably cutting off your nose to spite your face, but not having actually played the game I wasn't sure!
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<p>The rules for the games <a href="http://www.albepavo.com/SAKE/sake_overview-en.html" rel="nofollow">Sake &amp; Samurai</a> and <a href="http://www.albepavo.com/SAKE/beer_overview-en.html" rel="nofollow">Beer &amp; Vikings</a> allow dead players to "torment" players that are still living by stealing their Sake/Beer tokens. But any player is always allowed to "Burn up" as many Sake/Beer tokens as he likes to perform special actions.</p>

<p>How should any dead player ever successfully steal a token when the target of the "tormenting" can simply burn up all tokens that might be stolen?</p>

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Sake & Samurai / Beer & Vikings: Burning up spirits while being tormented
rachabg
# Sake & Samurai / Beer & Vikings: Burning up spirits while being tormented

(Asked by: username_0 on 2012-12-27)

The rules for the games [Sake & Samurai](http://www.albepavo.com/SAKE/sake_overview-en.html) and [Beer & Vikings](http://www.albepavo.com/SAKE/beer_overview-en.html) allow dead players to "torment" players that are still living by stealing their Sake/Beer tokens. But any player is always allowed to "Burn up" as many Sake/Beer tokens as he likes to perform special actions.

How should any dead player ever successfully steal a token when the target of the "tormenting" can simply burn up all tokens that might be stolen?

**Tags:** sake-and-samurai, beer-and-vikings


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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_0 on 2012-12-28. Score: 2

The creators of the game responded to my inquiry:

> Yes, this is possible, but if the target burns every token, he/she loses any chance of winning! So tormenting has to be played "not too aggressively" by Spirits, in order for the target to agree to a little loss - that's usually how we see it played!

> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: I thought that "burning your entire supply of tokens in response to a torment attempt" was probably cutting off your nose to spite your face, but not having actually played the game I wasn't sure!  

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