<p>If the effect instructs you to "cast" a spell or card, then you are casting the spell. You have to follow the instructions for casting a spell, and it triggers any "whenever you cast a spell" abilities.</p>

<p><a href="http://mtg.gamepedia.com/Copying_objects" rel="noreferrer">Rule 706.12</a> says</p>

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  <p><strong>An effect that instructs a player to cast a copy of an object (and not just copy a spell) follows the rules for casting spells</strong>, except that the copy is created in the same zone the object is in and then cast while another spell or ability is resolving. Casting a copy of an object follows steps 601.2a–h of rule 601, “Casting Spells,” and then the copy becomes cast. Once cast, the copy is a spell on the stack, and just like any other spell it can resolve or be countered.</p>
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2017-05-01T14:38:59.533Z
The actual relevant rule: *CR 111.1b Some effects allow a player to cast a copy of a card; if the player does, that copy is a spell as well. See rule 706.12.*
ikegami
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2017-05-01T15:14:07.717Z
Thank you for the rule reference. It turns out that the rule it points to, 706.12, has more detail, so I used that instead.
murgatroid99
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murgatroid99
<p>Do effects that instruct me to cast a copy of a spell (e.g. <a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?name=%2b%5bSpelltwine%5d">Spelltwine</a>, <a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?name=%2b%5bIsochron%20Scepter%5d">Isochron Scepter</a>, <a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?name=%2b%5bElite%20Arcanist%5d">Elite Arcanist</a>) trigger "whenever you cast a spell" abilities, as found in Prowess, <a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?name=%2b%5bCharmbreaker%20Devils%5d">Charmbreaker Devils</a>, etc?</p>

<p>I'm conscious that copying a spell on the stack (a la <a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?name=%2b%5bPyromancer%27s%5d%2b%5bGoggles%5d">Pyromancer&#39;s Goggles</a>) doesn't count as casting that spell, but I'd like to be clear on whether casting a <em>copy</em> counts.</p>

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Note: This also impacts storm counts.
John
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Does casting a copy of a spell count count for "whenever you cast a spell" triggers?
doppelgreener
# Does casting a copy of a spell count count for "whenever you cast a spell" triggers?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2017-04-30)

Do effects that instruct me to cast a copy of a spell (e.g. [Spelltwine](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?name=%2b%5bSpelltwine%5d), [Isochron Scepter](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?name=%2b%5bIsochron%20Scepter%5d), [Elite Arcanist](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?name=%2b%5bElite%20Arcanist%5d)) trigger "whenever you cast a spell" abilities, as found in Prowess, [Charmbreaker Devils](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?name=%2b%5bCharmbreaker%20Devils%5d), etc?

I'm conscious that copying a spell on the stack (a la [Pyromancer's Goggles](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?name=%2b%5bPyromancer%27s%5d%2b%5bGoggles%5d)) doesn't count as casting that spell, but I'd like to be clear on whether casting a *copy* counts.

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> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: Note: This also impacts storm counts.  

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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_2 on 2017-04-30. Score: 7 | Accepted answer

If the effect instructs you to "cast" a spell or card, then you are casting the spell. You have to follow the instructions for casting a spell, and it triggers any "whenever you cast a spell" abilities.

[Rule 706.12](http://mtg.gamepedia.com/Copying_objects) says

> **An effect that instructs a player to cast a copy of an object (and not just copy a spell) follows the rules for casting spells**, except that the copy is created in the same zone the object is in and then cast while another spell or ability is resolving. Casting a copy of an object follows steps 601.2a–h of rule 601, “Casting Spells,” and then the copy becomes cast. Once cast, the copy is a spell on the stack, and just like any other spell it can resolve or be countered.

> **Comments:**
> **username_3**: The actual relevant rule: *CR 111.1b Some effects allow a player to cast a copy of a card; if the player does, that copy is a spell as well. See rule 706.12.*  
> **username_2**: Thank you for the rule reference. It turns out that the rule it points to, 706.12, has more detail, so I used that instead.  

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