<p>The exact text on the card is: </p>

<p><a href="https://i.sstatic.net/XgufA.png" rel="nofollow noreferrer"><img src="https://i.sstatic.net/XgufA.png" alt="Shining Trapezohedrom"></a></p>

<blockquote>
  <p><strong>Action:</strong> Choose 1 Monster on any space and role 1 die. On a 5 or 6, discard that Monster. On a 1-4, move that Monster to your space.</p>
</blockquote>

<p><a href="https://images-cdn.fantasyflightgames.com/filer_public/39/c1/39c182c1-6b0d-46c4-b5eb-dd6886b4c798/eh01_reference_guide1.pdf" rel="nofollow noreferrer">From the reference guide (page 6):</a></p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Epic Monsters are treated like Monsters for all effects except as described here:</p>
  
  <ul>
  <li>An Epic Monster cannot be defeated by any effect except losing Health equal to or greater than it's toughness.
  An Epic Monster cannot be discarded.</li>
  <li><strong>An Epic Monster cannot be moved, except by an effect on its 
  token or the component that spawned it.</strong></li>
  <li>Epic Monsters are never placed in the Monster cup.</li>
  <li>When an Epic Monster is defeated, it is returned to the game box.</li>
  <li>“Monster” refers to a Monster and/or an Epic Monsters. “Non-Epic Monster” refers to a Monster but not an Epic Monster.</li>
  </ul>
</blockquote>

<p>So no, the Shining Trapezohedron can not move the Epic Monster</p>

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Ginji
<p>The trapezohedron allows the investigator to discard the chosen monster on a roll of 5 or 6. Since discarding Epic Monsters is disallowed, would a 5 or 6 result in no action while a roll of 1-4 result in moving the monster to me?</p>

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Can I use the Shining Trapezohedron against Epic Monsters to attempt to move them?
Joey
# Can I use the Shining Trapezohedron against Epic Monsters to attempt to move them?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2016-05-18)

The trapezohedron allows the investigator to discard the chosen monster on a roll of 5 or 6. Since discarding Epic Monsters is disallowed, would a 5 or 6 result in no action while a roll of 1-4 result in moving the monster to me?

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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2016-05-18. Score: 3 | Accepted answer

The exact text on the card is:

[![Shining Trapezohedrom](https://i.sstatic.net/XgufA.png)](https://i.sstatic.net/XgufA.png)

> **Action:** Choose 1 Monster on any space and role 1 die. On a 5 or 6, discard that Monster. On a 1-4, move that Monster to your space.

[From the reference guide (page 6):](https://images-cdn.fantasyflightgames.com/filer_public/39/c1/39c182c1-6b0d-46c4-b5eb-dd6886b4c798/eh01_reference_guide1.pdf)

> Epic Monsters are treated like Monsters for all effects except as described here:
>
> * An Epic Monster cannot be defeated by any effect except losing Health equal to or greater than it's toughness.
>   An Epic Monster cannot be discarded.
> * **An Epic Monster cannot be moved, except by an effect on its
>   token or the component that spawned it.**
> * Epic Monsters are never placed in the Monster cup.
> * When an Epic Monster is defeated, it is returned to the game box.
> * “Monster” refers to a Monster and/or an Epic Monsters. “Non-Epic Monster” refers to a Monster but not an Epic Monster.

So no, the Shining Trapezohedron can not move the Epic Monster


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