<p><strong>No, the discount does not apply...</strong></p>
<p>But only because Bontu's Monument <em>never</em> applies to Costly Plunder. Bontu's Monument applies to black <em>creature</em> spells, and Costly Plunder is an instant.</p>
<p><strong>But, if it <em>could</em> apply, it would.</strong></p>
<p>Consider <a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Stormscape%20Familiar">Stormscape Familiar</a>, which reads:</p>
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<p>White spells and black spells you cast cost 1 less to cast.</p>
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<p>If you cast Costly Plunder and sacrificed Stormscape Familiar to pay for it, you would only need to pay B, not 1B. This is because the total cost you need to pay for a spell (in this case, B and sacrificing a creature or artifact) is &quot;locked in&quot; <em>before</em> you begin the process of actually paying for it.</p>

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I have made an edit to ask the actual question.
Neil Meyer
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<p>If you have a <a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Bontu%27s%20Monument">Bontu&#39;s Monument</a> in play and you want to sacrifice it to <a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Costly%20Plunder">Costly Plunder</a>, does Costly Plunder cost 2 mana or 1?</p>

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I can write an answer here, but I'm honestly struggling to see why you think "Black creature spells you cast cost 1 less to cast." might apply to Costly Plunder, which is definitely not a creature spell. Could you explain why you think it might apply?
Philip Kendall
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Reading the card does indeed explain it.
Neil Meyer
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I have made an edit to ask the actual question I wanted answering.
Neil Meyer
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Don't change your question after it's answered in a way that makes the answer invalid. You got an answer to the question you asked. If you wanted to ask a different question, ask another question.
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Does Bontu's Monument's discount apply to Costly Plunder?
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# Does Bontu's Monument's discount apply to Costly Plunder?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2022-11-19)

If you have a [Bontu's Monument](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Bontu%27s%20Monument) in play and you want to sacrifice it to [Costly Plunder](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Costly%20Plunder), does Costly Plunder cost 2 mana or 1?

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> **Comments:**
> **username_1**: I can write an answer here, but I'm honestly struggling to see why you think "Black creature spells you cast cost 1 less to cast." might apply to Costly Plunder, which is definitely not a creature spell. Could you explain why you think it might apply?  
> **username_0**: Reading the card does indeed explain it.  
> **username_0**: I have made an edit to ask the actual question I wanted answering.  
> **username_2**: Don't change your question after it's answered in a way that makes the answer invalid. You got an answer to the question you asked. If you wanted to ask a different question, ask another question.  

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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_3 on 2022-11-19. Score: 3

**No, the discount does not apply...**

But only because Bontu's Monument *never* applies to Costly Plunder. Bontu's Monument applies to black *creature* spells, and Costly Plunder is an instant.

**But, if it *could* apply, it would.**

Consider [Stormscape Familiar](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Stormscape%20Familiar), which reads:

> White spells and black spells you cast cost 1 less to cast.

If you cast Costly Plunder and sacrificed Stormscape Familiar to pay for it, you would only need to pay B, not 1B. This is because the total cost you need to pay for a spell (in this case, B and sacrificing a creature or artifact) is "locked in" *before* you begin the process of actually paying for it.

> **Comments:**
> **username_0**: I have made an edit to ask the actual question.  

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