<p>Unfortunately, no, it doesn't die. "Dies" has a specific meaning:</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>700.4. The term dies means “is put into a graveyard from the battlefield.” </p>
</blockquote>

<p>The token does cease to exist once in the player's hand, but that's due to other rules, and that's not considered dying either:</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>110.5f A token that’s phased out, or that’s in a zone other than the battlefield, ceases to exist. This is a state-based action; see rule 704. (Note that if a token changes zones, applicable triggered abilities will trigger before the token ceases to exist.)  </p>
</blockquote>

<p>But, this has an interesting implication that a token can die and is temporarily in the graveyard, thus satisfying death triggers. </p>

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2016-04-19T19:26:52.480Z
For added effect:
Tokens still "die", but then they are removed from the graveyard immediately as a state-based action.
malnourish
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2016-04-20T03:56:43.120Z
This could use a mention of the rule that *does* cause the token to stop existing when bounced. That would give the opportunity to show that it stops existing without rule 700.4 applying.
SevenSidedDie
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2016-04-20T12:49:22.723Z
If it doesn't die, then the added ability doesn't trigger.
davemtgplayer
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2016-04-19T18:25:07.210Z
2016-04-20T13:05:30.130Z
2016-04-20T13:05:30.130Z
JonTheMon
<ol>
<li>1/1 Devil token (ala <a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Devils%27%20Playground">Devils&#39; Playground</a>) on board</li>
<li><a class="mtg-autocard" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Just%20the%20Wind">Just the Wind</a> cast on the 1/1 Devil</li>
<li>Token gets removed from board</li>
<li>?? Devil does 1 damage to target creature or player ??</li>
</ol>

<magic-the-gathering>
If a token is returned to hand, is it considered dying?
davemtgplayer
# If a token is returned to hand, is it considered dying?

(Asked by: username_0 on 2016-04-19)

1. 1/1 Devil token (ala [Devils' Playground](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Devils%27%20Playground)) on board
2. [Just the Wind](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Just%20the%20Wind) cast on the 1/1 Devil
3. Token gets removed from board
4. ?? Devil does 1 damage to target creature or player ??

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## 1 answers

### Answer by username_1 on 2016-04-19. Score: 16 | Accepted answer

Unfortunately, no, it doesn't die. "Dies" has a specific meaning:

> 700.4. The term dies means “is put into a graveyard from the battlefield.”

The token does cease to exist once in the player's hand, but that's due to other rules, and that's not considered dying either:

> 110.5f A token that’s phased out, or that’s in a zone other than the battlefield, ceases to exist. This is a state-based action; see rule 704. (Note that if a token changes zones, applicable triggered abilities will trigger before the token ceases to exist.)

But, this has an interesting implication that a token can die and is temporarily in the graveyard, thus satisfying death triggers.

> **Comments:**
> **username_2**: For added effect: Tokens still "die", but then they are removed from the graveyard immediately as a state-based action.  
> **username_3**: This could use a mention of the rule that *does* cause the token to stop existing when bounced. That would give the opportunity to show that it stops existing without rule 700.4 applying.  
> **username_0**: If it doesn't die, then the added ability doesn't trigger.  

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