[Tag] [Tag] [Tag] [Tag] [Tag] [Tag] [Tag] [Tag] [Tag] [Tag] This is not what we do at all. Most come in with good control. Some simply need to tighten up diet. Others have been non-compliant w meds and diet altogether. 
There is a rare few who we discuss with endocrine and they say - this is where they live (at say 8). And we agree.