title: looking beyond november th  a song of oligarchy and doom
text: link greetings ats community i wanted to pass on something my dad experienced several years ago in the hopes that perhaps others have experienced something similiar or know someone who has i found the story quite interesting and i hope you will too background my dad was a pilot with  years of experience flying all manner of civilian military and commercial aircraft he was a naturally humble and quiet individualnever given to boasting or exageration like many pilots he was wired to be logical mathematical and mechanical he was also a supreme skeptic where all things supernatural and speculative are concerned he preferred direct experience and scientific inquiry to wild tales his story one day he came back from a trip he flew commercial flight to mexico over a beer i casually asked him about his trip he looked at me cocked one eyebrow and replied i saw something i cant explain this got my attention on the layover he and another pilot went out for dinner walking back along the beach at night they both noticed a distant light moving along a fixed vector at a constant speed they kept watching it and were wondering about distance and elevation thinking perhaps it was either a satellite or a highflying aircraftnothing out of the ordinary then it came to a complete stop reversed direction  degrees and whizzed off so fast it was out of sight in less than a second or two so my first response was do you think it was a ufo again with the cocked eyebrow he said i dont want to use that word all i will say is that what we witnessed completely and utterly defies all laws of aerodynamics that im familiar with im not aware of any aircraftmilitary or otherwisethat can do that its beyond my abilities to explain thats all im willing to say to contrast this story i will also say that one time we were watching a campy early s fox program that was reporting on the us government harboring aliens at one point in the story they started talking about a particular installation in the mountains of nevada not area  thats being used as a landing zone for ufos dad started laughing so hard i thought he was going to fall off the couch he looked at me and said i know what they do there i said and he replied i cant tell you that but i can tell you theyre not landing ufos total buzz kill anyway thats the story i wanted to relate in the hopes that others can add their own thanks for reading