 And that clearly hasn't happened, at least not so far. We can see that, for example, and this is some of the research of my colleague in London, Charlie Winter, that of the 37 media offices that ISIS used to have, only 4 or 5 are left. And the output of ISIS in terms of online propaganda has also declined quite dramatically. They used to put out in 2014 between 5 and 7 videos a day.