 had the implication that this is all part of a negotiation, essentially. But anyway, we will see what actually, because these are very serious matters and the way they are being broached, they would seem to have a very serious implication, but I did take his remarks in Shangri-La to be rather important, so they're worth having a look. You may have a different judgment once you've had a look at them, but I thought that they were signaling that there's still room for discussion, essentially.