what did user interface think about the material of the remote control ?[SEP] <s>industrial designer: project manager: um almost , there 's one more thing i have to get out of the i have to make sure that this attachment will open . industrial designer: i keep forgetting whether i 've done this . . project manager: ah-ha . okay . we 'll open that when the time is right . in the meantime closing things down , okay . let 's see what this thing does . does it come up together or disappear one of them or what ? ah , we came up together , we 're good . okay . are we ready to start ? okay . it 's now quarter of four . this is a f another forty minute one so it will end at four twenty five . okay . right . our agenda is , as before , for me to open the meeting , for us to go over the previous minutes , then for the two of you to present your prototype and for you to g um sarah present the evaluation criteria . we then have a finance aspect , which is a spreadsheet , an excel spreadsheet . and i know what you 're all thinking of , oh my , um because we 're only given a forty minute time period to get it all in , including the production evaluation . so we 're going to make a very fast track . okay . um and as you can see that 's what we do next on this thing . so the first thing i have to do is close this so that i can get to where is it ? marketing: red . project manager: i need to open mine . not the agenda . marketing: agenda three . project manager: no that th i want the minutes from the previous minutes . marketing: mm . project manager: that should be there , minutes . yeah . okay . uh from meeting three , is it alright with you if i do n't switch it to show , just use it as is ? 'cause this way i can more easily flip it . okay , um obviously all of us were here for the last meeting , we reviewed the previous minutes before that , um each of you made your presentations . um we discussed the various possibilities based on what was presented in those presentations . the market trend of fruit and veg , mm spongy , uh fancy and elegant more than technologically innovative and that more than easy . um we decided chip on print would be used . um we would use plastic with a rubber casing , i think was the consensus , powered by kinetic energy . there was no decision made on the curvatures or double curvature or straight . um perhaps the prototype will give us an inkling of that . um looking like a scroll , but it 's really a push button technology , excuse my spelling um that was actually in use , that is uh behind the scenes is push button which we uh according to kate have a very good uh grasp on doing that in production . um we decided that separate fashionable covers covering your fruit and veg might be a separate product that could be suggested to management . um and as suggested um yellow with black buttons with the company logo , a slogan and image might be a good idea based on the requirements that have been provided to us . um we did have a few production issues and coordination of the various bits and we had some conflict of ideas and cost constraints and we ran out of time . um we had to follow that up and prepare for the last one . and uh we closed as it ran out of time . is that a fair presentation of what happened ? industrial designer: yep . user interface: yes . project manager: okay , back to this meeting . um we 're down to the prototype presentation . industrial designer: ta-da . user interface: alright . project manager: over to you . industrial designer: right . user interface: well . project manager: ooh , two . user interface: yeah , well you see , each made one , we did n't have enough yellow dough . project manager: ah . industrial designer: user interface: this is the one that i made . project manager: uh-huh . user interface: it is uh curved , easy to hold , hand-held , nice and small with big easy buttons . this is like a scroll , but they are push buttons and they enter takes you into the different menus . of course we need someone who 's experienced with the television . i mean this is the infrared thing that 's gon na zap at the television . uh i 'm not quite sure how to make that , but i 'm sure it will work . uh this is on off switch , 'cause i think we do need that , and i think it gives it a nice balance . project manager: 'kay . user interface: and it 's gon na have the logo imprinted on it uh in there . project manager: okay . user interface: um as for what it 's actually made of well the function of these buttons is up , down , left and right in the different menus . project manager: okay . user interface: uh position , i presume that just means right right on it , easy to see . the main feature of it is just a simple design , simple , lack of uh buttons all over the place . right ? form curved , kind of smooth , hand-held , makes it feel nice to hold . uh material , i think kate 's gon na tackle that quite a bit , but i think we have two different options , because we did make a another one , which wa uh is in the shape of banana , it 's just if you can imagine this as yellow with black buttons , like just like this but in the shape of a banana , project manager: mm-hmm . mm-hmm . user interface: which is also nice and easy to hold and feels good and has a similar sort of scroll push button technology , just a slightly different design . project manager: user interface: also with on off switch and infrared uh i had envisioned it in hard smooth plastic . so like uh well , i dunno , what 's it like ? i guess like an existing remote control , but molded and smooth . whereas otherwise we 'd thought , like with this one or mix and match , just we were gon na see what you thought , the uh a more spongy rubber cover with spongy buttons . so we have the two options we can follow , either the smooth hard plastic or the spongy rubber , depending on cost restraints . and what we well , what conclusion we reach when we discuss it . uh material yeah , that 's what i have to say about material . can i scroll down on there and see what else industrial designer: mm-hmm . user interface: well colour , i think i definitely have a preference towards bright yellow with black buttons , because that 's the company colours , but if anybody 's got any other suggestions , i 'm quite willing to consider them as well . so , it just depends what you think about these ideas and if i 'm yeah , maybe , kate , you better say what you think about them . industrial designer: um well i do n't have very much to add . um the the case oops , that 's the uh on off button just come off our prototype . user interface: industrial designer: the the case can be either um spongy rubber or hard plastic . we 're not absolutely sure about a combination of the two , but it can be either of those . we have the technology to do that . um and as for the the actual components um , uh steph just said this is a quite a cheap device to manufacture . we have simple rubber push buttons um which provide all the functionality we need . um the um the diode that actually does the um infrared is at the end , it 's the stalk of the banana , or it 's just the thing at the end of this version . um so that 's for material . colour , well uh steph 's the expert on colour . um we we do n't have any particular restrictions on that . yeah , i think that 's all we 've got to say really . user interface: i thin as for as for the fruit or organic theme , i guess this one is obviously fruit shaped . industrial designer: a banana . user interface: this one has n banana , yeah . this one has no obvious connections to fruit , but because it 's round and molded , it kinda makes you think sort of organic , touchy-feely , kiddie , it 's more like yeah , you 'd expect it to be like a child 's sorta toy remote control instead of a real one , which i quite like that sort of image . 'cause it 's very big and chunky and child-friendly and industrial designer: would you care to examine the prototypes , see how they feel in the hand ? user interface: hold them , you see , you know . curvature , is it to your liking ? project manager: oh i see , the on-off 's in the back . industrial designer: yes , that 's so that your index finger automatically goes straight to it . user interface: if you do n't wan na tire out your thumbs after all . project manager: and then you can use your thumb . industrial designer: and it was partly we thought the design looked better , user interface: yeah . project manager: i could see this thing , unless it 's reinforced , having a problem with the you know user interface: breaking , project manager: yeah . user interface: oh right . well you see , that 's why hard plastic would be quite a good thing for it , because then it 'd just be rigid . marketing: i like the fact that on both of them the keys play such a prominent role . project manager: hmm . user interface: yeah , we really like we really like that design , marketing: it 's really kind of a user interface: i mean it looks just like a logo , that arrangement of the keys . like a c like a compass point , you know , marketing: mm-hmm mm-hmm . user interface: just up , down , left and right , and we think we could make that quite a good feature . and it 's like the the ipod scroll wheel , but better . marketing: yeah . but it 's also like texting , user interface: yeah . yeah , yeah , marketing: you do n't industrial designer: hmm . user interface: i mean it that 's what it makes me think of , mobile phones , marketing: industrial designer: user interface: i was try i was thinking , moving your thumb like this , what does that remind me of ? industrial designer: and it 's a very simple design , marketing: yeah . user interface: it 's texting . industrial designer: there 's not a lot to wrong , the components are cheap to make . marketing: it 's also in terms of um being lost it 's it 's quite it looks quite different . user interface: hmm . marketing: you know , i i d i have several four remotes , and they all look the same until you get up close and you have to user interface: yeah . marketing: you know , this is really identifiable . user interface: i mean the thing is we do need to develop our technology of i mean actually how to program the menus and what sort of , you know , text box is gon na appear at the bottom of the screen , marketing: mm-hmm . mm-hmm . user interface: but we do definitely think that it 's a viable option . project manager: okay . the next item is evaluation . marketing: no , okay . project manager: uh if that 's if you 're finished . user interface: uh yeah , we 're finished . marketing: um industrial designer: mm-hmm . marketing: shall i take your uh power ? project manager: oh sorry . marketing: oh . project manager: try again . marketing: okay . this is going to be a heavily interactive evaluation , and the method here is to evaluate the new remote control in terms of the user requirements and the hot trends introduced by the marketing department . so , this means we 're going to go over the priorities that were raised by uh the consumers a as well as incorporate all of our insight into this uh evaluation exercise . so i 'm going to go and use the whiteboard , and i 've made a list of criteria to look at , and so i 'm gon na i 'm gon na leave this up as the last thing , but for the evaluation it 's going to be one is true and seven is false , going over these different criteria , so one true seven false and i 'm gon na now use the um the board . okay . so um fancy , technologically innovative , easy to use , trendy , buttons , excess buttons , good buttons , ugly , sellable , and other . and in fact i hope that uh you all introduce some additional terms , because these are things that um have been brought up , some of them seem rather close , user interface: yeah , what about price , is that gon na go on there as well ? price of materials . marketing: like they overlap . mm , yeah , price . project manager: hmm . marketing: we 'll put price up at the top . user interface: not that we actually know anything about it , industrial designer: user interface: but we can we can pretend . marketing: project manager: well we will soon , unfortunately . marketing: um okay , so project manager: come on . marketing: did you say ? project manager: no , . marketing: uh okay , so wha how do we feel in terms of is this fancy ? user interface: it depends what what you mean by fancy really , 'cause when i think of fancy , i think of it 's got lots of extra sort of fripperies and , you know , like baroque curliness and which marketing: mm-hmm . user interface: i 'd call these quite uh minimalist , industrial designer: yes , a plain , simple , clean design . user interface: simple and plain , but i mean i do see what it is heavily reliant on appearance instead of pure functionality , marketing: mm-hmm . user interface: so in that respect it is quite fancy . marketing: i yeah , so in that respect i think we 'll go with that respect . user interface: i think just maybe we need a different word other than fancy , i 'd say maybe aesthetic . marketing: yeah . industrial designer: well we have got s trendy further down , project manager: elegant . industrial designer: but project manager: elegant . marketing: elegant . industrial designer: elegant , i do n't know if i 'd call them elegant . marketing: yeah , no these are n't the exact terms that the um user interface: like stylish or aesthetic . industrial designer: stylish , yeah . marketing: yeah . elegant . we 're gon let 's use elegant , although the the the people , the word on the street is is user interface: fancy . marketing: yeah . n that um user interface: did you just break the pen ? project manager: marketing: yeah uh the uh is fancy . so let 's let 's take it to the next level . user interface: well d we 'll just call it fancy then . marketing: well okay , so in terms of elegant , fancy . we 'll call it e_f_ um , do we do we think that perhaps and maybe we should say the yellow ? should we go with the yellow in terms of i think that 's a really superior user interface: yeah , i think we n we need to marketing: they 're both user interface: they 're both yellow with black buttons , it 's just that we did n't have any more dough to represent uh that , marketing: yeah . project manager: mm . user interface: but if you can just imagine banana shape with these bits as black . marketing: yeah . user interface: so what we re really need to decide is whether we want the actual banana shape or just a a purely blob or some sort of abstraction in between the two marketing: yeah . user interface: that is n't that is more curved , like a banana , but that is n't actually recognisable as a banana , you know , with the grooves and the stalk and stuff , marketing: as a banana . user interface: so . marketing: i think that many of us are abstract enough to look at the yellow one and say we 'll call it the banana . project manager: yeah . marketing: and of the two i really like i m i like the banana , project manager: the chunk . marketing: but i i do like the chunk . user interface: so that 's maybe not something we have to decide just right now , is it . marketing: no , user interface: just somewhere a long the scale of in between these two . marketing: but i mean in terms we have to evaluate one of them . unless do you guys wan na evaluate both ? project manager: i think between the two , somewhere between the two is true . industrial designer: yeah , i 'd project manager: it 's more true than false , about a two . marketing: okay . so we say true . technologically innovative . user interface: industrial designer: i d i do n't think that 's what we 're aiming at with this concept . marketing: yeah . industrial designer: i think we 're using simple components that are gon na be robust but not particularly innovative . marketing: so we 'll say we 'll say uh false . easy to use . industrial designer: very . user interface: yes . marketing: one , project manager: mm-hmm . marketing: is that inappropriate ? industrial designer: yeah . marketing: okay . oh , pardon me . um project manager: trendy . user interface: oh yes . marketing: trendy , s and i say specifically spongy fruity . project manager: mm-hmm . user interface: well , maybe only a two or a three then , 'cause it 's no we still have n't decided about specific sponginess or specific industrial designer: we have the worry about how robust it will be if it 's it 's curved as a banana but spongy . project manager: hmm . industrial designer: i think user interface: yeah , i do n't really think that 's gon na work , industrial designer: yeah . user interface: but marketing: okay , so two ? um industrial designer: yeah . project manager: excess buttons . marketing: are there excess buttons ? project manager: no . industrial designer: no . user interface: no . marketing: that is false . industrial designer: so that 's false . marketing: um good , well designed buttons , intuitive buttons . project manager: better , more intuitive buttons , yes . marketing: true . ugly . industrial designer: no . user interface: no . project manager: no . marketing: people do n't respond well to ugly . sellable , uh quirky , you know , something people industrial designer: yeah , i think they 're different , are n't they ? user interface: well it is quite it is quite quirky i think . marketing: like oh , project manager: i like it . marketing: yeah . yeah , i do too . user interface: it could be quite a good brand , like a good little object . marketing: oh yeah . and i was i was thinking of other things um in terms of uh could we say it 's cost saving ? with the user interface: oh , we also need tho think about the energy . is it the kinetic energy ? marketing: yeah , with the energy . industrial designer: mm . user interface: if it 's it is gon na be environmentally friendly with the kinetic energy . industrial designer: yeah . marketing: it is going to be kinetic ? industrial designer: yeah . project manager: mm-hmm . marketing: we 'll c we 'll say it 's a cost saving enviro . yeah , uh so yes . user interface: yeah , but we have n't completely developed that side of it yet , so we 're not completely sure about that , marketing: well user interface: but yeah . marketing: you 're still in the play-doh stage . user interface: yeah . marketing: anything else ? including price , do you have any idea about price or other features ? industrial designer: well i think our instinct is that it should be pretty cheap to develop . we have n't got a lot of expensive components in there . project manager: yes , the instinct says true . marketing: okay . so true one or should i go to two or three ? industrial designer: i 'd put it at one i think , but i dunno , what do you user interface: i would say maybe a two , marketing: okay . user interface: 'cause we still we need to uh get somebody in who is good with the programming for the menus and things . industrial designer: yeah , true , user interface: i mean it 's not just like i mean it 's not like ev you know , on a normal chunky remote every button res i mean means something different , project manager: yeah , that 's not a cheap thing to get . industrial designer: it might be the yeah , yeah , true . true . user interface: whereas this one has only got the four buttons and they all they mean everything , depending on what menu you 're in . project manager: hmm . industrial designer: yeah , that 's a good point . user interface: uh we need somebody to develop that . marketing: um other ? anything else you guys can thing of ? and i 'm gon na actually change a couple of these so then i 'm gon na instead of ugly i 'm gon na say it 's attractive and then make that true , so that user interface: yeah . marketing: 'cause i have to do an average . industrial designer: right . marketing: and then um excess buttons . user interface: just putting no excess buttons . marketing: exactly . wow we 're doing really well . yeah , be you know , user interface: as for marketing: so it does n't ruin the polarity . user interface: see if we 're technologically innovative , i 'd say it is quite innovative , because there are n't really many that have this menu idea instead of all the extra buttons . marketing: mm-hmm . user interface: i mean i know we 're not doing anything involving internet or speech recognition but but we are at the upper end of the push button market . marketing: or lcd . yeah . well if you g uh let me know if if any of these um if you if you all can think of any other um thing to change here if you th if you think i should change the innovative or add other features . if not i 'll average those . project manager: i think we 're good . marketing: okay . mm . project manager: okay . we 're a little over halfway through the meeting marketing: so project manager: and the next big thing is the finance . okay . marketing: um okay , how about if i uh pass this back to you project manager: yep . marketing: and i 'll uh figure out the average here . project manager: right . marketing: thank you for everyone 's help with that . project manager: right . and as you can see it says the same thing , it had not lost itself , thank goodness . and we 're going to raise what 's called a sp a spreadsheet that they provided to me . um and it says fill in the number of components you plan to use in your device . user interface: project manager: hand dynamo , battery , kinetic , solar cells . okay . user interface: well , just kinetic then , . project manager: yeah . industrial designer: yeah . project manager: um what 's a hand dynamo ? industrial designer: that was the crank , wind-up crank on the side . user interface: it 's the wind-up . project manager: oh marketing: project manager: shoot , forget that . kinetic is um and how many of those will we need per we only need one . industrial designer: just one . project manager: okay . electronic simple chip on print , and we 'll need one of those . industrial designer: uh uh yeah , i think we can do it all with simple just checking that . yeah , simple , 'cause we 've just got push buttons , so we can do it all with simple which is the ch should be the cheapest . project manager: okay , and we only need one of those . industrial designer: yep . project manager: okay , the case will be uncurved and flat or a single curve or a double curve . it looks like it single curve , 'cause of th the chunkiness . it 's industrial designer: yeah , that that one is single curve , project manager: that 's uh uh one . industrial designer: is n't it ? um do we have project manager: and that 's user interface: what does double curved mean , i do n't understand . industrial designer: i i think you it means you reverse the curve . project manager: uh that 's the the one that goes like this . industrial designer: yeah . yeah , i do i do n't think we need that for either of them , user interface: oh no , we do n't need that . no . project manager: right . industrial designer: you can do a banana in single curve , project manager: no , user interface: single-curved , i 'd say . project manager: single curve . industrial designer: yeah . project manager: okay , case material supplements . plastic , wood , rubber , titanium , special colour . user interface: i industrial designer: user interface: i just wan na say plastic . project manager: we had the special colour . and did we say plastic ? industrial designer: yeah , can we do some what ifs , 'cause it may project manager: yeah . industrial designer: i mean i i still quite like the idea of combining plastic and rubber myself , marketing: one , two , three , four , five , six . industrial designer: but it depends on the cost , i guess . project manager: okay . we 'll come back , if we can , to the rubber being added at the moment , that 's where we are . interface button push button interface . that 's what we 're using , user interface: it 's just button . industrial designer: yes . user interface: yeah . project manager: is n't it ? industrial designer: yep . user interface: yeah . industrial designer: do we need to say how many buttons , or project manager: whoops , do n't want that , not yet . um industrial designer: or d is it just one ? project manager: no , it just says push button interface . button supplements , they 'll be in a special colour of black . industrial designer: 'kay . project manager: and the buttons wha what is the buttons made of , rubber ? industrial designer: uh they 'll be rubber , yep . project manager: so we need one of them . and are they any special form ? user interface: well yeah , like the compass point one . industrial designer: actually , does tha does special material mean that plastic is not a special material ? 'cause i think they can be plastic . project manager: 'cause the rate we 're going we can put the rubber on top . industrial designer: yeah . they could be plastic , we do n't have to have rubber buttons , project manager: oh . industrial designer: because we have n't got a double curved case . user interface: yeah , they could be plastic . project manager: okay . um let 's put that rubber in then , of the case material supplement . industrial designer: it 's just one , is n't it ? project manager: uh we only need one of them . um and the total cost has been calculated as nine pounds twenty out of the twelve and a half we were allowed . industrial designer: what , we 're in . marketing: yeah . project manager: we 're in . that 's us . industrial designer: more profit . user interface: great . project manager: okay , i 'm going to save this into our desktop , project documents . okay . as our project document bit . industrial designer: do you do you need to double click on that to open it ? project manager: yeah . there we are . that 's the only excel document that will be in there , so it 's there for all of us . okay , so , are they under twelve fifty ? yes , go to the project evaluation , next slide . user interface: yes . project manager: right . um the project process , satisfaction with , for example , the room for creativity . yeah , leadership , teamwork , user interface: yeah . marketing: sure . yes . project manager: means , of having whiteboard , the digital pens and all that kind of good things . marketing: user interface: and play-doh . project manager: uh-huh . industrial designer: yeah , yeah , the play-doh was best , i thought . project manager: user interface: yeah well , 'cause i mean it 's so hard to describe what you mean just with words and pointing at photographs and saying , well we quite want this , but imagine it rounder . so much better just to go and , you know , this is it , this is what we want . industrial designer: yep . project manager: okay . so , we went over all those things and we 're satisfied with all the above . marketing: yep . project manager: um did we find any new ideas ? marketing: i think with the marketing element of uh fruit shaped i i mean i that really opened my eyes . user interface: yeah . spongy . marketing: i i only speak for myself though . user interface: and i 'd never heard of the kinetic energy before , industrial designer: yeah . user interface: so . good work as a design team , industrial designer: yeah , i think we 're a good team actually . user interface: because we industrial designer: i 'm not sure all the wires are really great though . project manager: so we actually worked well as a group . industrial designer: i thought so . project manager: right . are the costs within the budget ? yes . user interface: oh yes . marketing: yes . project manager: is the project evaluated ? industrial designer: yes . project manager: yes . industrial designer: yes . user interface: yes . marketing: i can give you a number , industrial designer: hang on , oh we have n't heard . project manager: uh-huh . marketing: um it 's uh the average evaluation score is one point eight eight , so it means w you know , i can i can spell it out . there were six true or ones , four um pardon me , two s almost true or close to true , so that was four points , and then uh one false , seven points , so seventeen divided by nine we 're between one and two . i would say that 's ex excellent in terms of uh ho how much we adhere to the ideals of the uh market place . user interface: yeah . and the the only false one is because we 've chosen to keep a simple old technology , marketing: to maintain old technology , exactly . industrial designer: mm-hmm . user interface: which if it works perfectly well i see no point in improving on if it works , marketing: yeah , yeah . industrial designer: absolutely , and it 's kept us within budget . user interface: so . yeah . marketing: yes . project manager: mm-hmm . user interface: so we do count as i think excellent or one . project manager: alright . user interface: . project manager: and we 've therefore we have to do the final questionnaire and do the meeting summary , i have a final report to present , um and then we 're done . marketing: okay . project manager: we done good , and we 're finished in time . user interface: bring on the ice sculptures . marketing: nice . industrial designer: and then we get the product launch party . marketing: so we might have to wait . industrial designer: product launch party ? user interface: yeah . project manager: user interface: that 's what i said , ice sculptures . marketing: yeah . industrial designer: absolutely . marketing: um i one thing i want to do is oh , i think the meeting 's done . project manager: i believe that is the end of our meeting . thank you , melissa . marketing: yeah . um one thing i wa i wan na do is save everything in the right files , because i do n't think everything is saved . the right files . final meeting market </s> [SEP]what did user interface think about the material of the remote control ?
user interface tried to envisioned the remote control in well molded and hard smooth plastic . user interface also suggested another possibility , which was a more spongy rubber cover with spongy buttons . which option to choose would depend on cost restraints .