summarize the group 's attempts to redesign the conceptual remote control because of the limited budget .[SEP] <s>project manager: okay . uh first of all i 'll start with the costs , marketing: . project manager: because that 's going to influence our design . user interface: oh no . marketing: oh , . project manager: if you do n't know if you al already had a look or not ? user interface: no n i i already did it . industrial designer: did you do your questionnaire already ? marketing: no . user interface: it 's not much . it 's just one question . project manager: because we have a problem . industrial designer: uh marketing: oh . project manager: if you look closely , you can see . user interface: yeah . industrial designer: it wants project manager: um i already took the liberty to make some suggestions . . . at the moment we have fifteen buttons , one lcd screen , one advanced chip-on-print . we use a uh sensor , that 's for the speech . uh we use kinetic energy . and we wanted uh the buttons in a special colour . okay . what 's the first thing we should drop ? the special colour of the buttons ? user interface: no that 's that 's for the trendy uh feel and look . so project manager: okay . uh industrial designer: yeah but everything is . project manager: should we switch to a hand dynamo ? user interface: project manager: uh that 's the still the same idea as the kinetic energy because you have to use it and do things . marketing: no . user interface: yeah , b but marketing: yeah but young people like that . project manager: batteries ? marketing: so just do normal battery . project manager: batteries . user interface: i think the battery option . industrial designer: just a normal battery then , yeah . marketing: yeah . project manager: . marketing: it has to be twelve and a half . project manager: yeah . marketing: or not ? user interface: oh . project manager: so industrial designer: oh my goodness . project manager: you 're going to redesign something . marketing: user interface: oh no . project manager: okay , so we 're at twenty five . marketing: uh , yeah . project manager: um do we keep the shape doubly curved or g do we go for single curved ? industrial designer: well i guess i we 'll have to go for single curve then . i mean we have to drop on everything . project manager: mm-hmm . uh marketing: but we can keep it single curved with uh top view still curved , but from the side it 's it 's flat , industrial designer: yeah . marketing: and the screen screen is just well you just have to hold it like this then . so project manager: yeah . um industrial designer: how about sorry . project manager: uh another option i saw was to drop the buttons one through nine , so you ca n't directly access a channel , but instead use only the up and down arrows . that would skip nine buttons and four and a half euros . industrial designer: that 's what i was thinking . user interface: yeah . marketing: alright . project manager: yeah ? industrial designer: a a marketing: let 's do it then . yeah . project manager: uh then we have left user interface: but we do n't have any basic options any more . marketing: we project manager: uh yeah . we do . industrial designer: and uh 'cause then they do n't have to n they do n't need special colour as well . marketing: f_ eight . project manager: they do n't need special colours . fine . that 's more like it . marketing: yeah . user interface: project manager: you were saying something . industrial designer: that was exactly my point . like let 's drop all the buttons , and just make one project manager: yeah . industrial designer: i mean we 're gon na use the lcd screen anyway . so we 'll just have to use it for everything . project manager: mm-hmm . yeah . industrial designer: and then you can make an overview of channels in the screen , and select a channel , click project manager: yeah , some more menu options . yeah . okay so maybe we can drop few more buttons . industrial designer: project manager: but um now let 's look . user interface: yeah we c could we only need the the the the the menu arrow arrow button uh thing . everything you can do with with the menu . so with the display . industrial designer: project manager: mm-hmm . industrial designer: yeah we need one integrated button for everything then . user interface: yeah . marketing: the joystick . project manager: uh industrial designer: yeah . kind of . i was because marketing: project manager: yeah , scroll-wheel , push-button uh industrial designer: yeah . if you if you go to marketing: integrated scroll-wheel push-button , yeah . industrial designer: if you go to our uh view , like you if you are in the sound system there , uh and you wan na adjust the treble for instance , project manager: yeah . yeah . industrial designer: this is just uh an example , project manager: mm-hmm . industrial designer: y y you wan na see a bar on which you can adjust it from zero to ten for example . project manager: mm-hmm . mm-hmm . industrial designer: but you want a sound preview of how it 's gon na sound , project manager: yeah . industrial designer: right ? so you wan na click on it , activate it , whe and when you move it , hear the difference of the treble coming out or going into the sound . project manager: yeah . industrial designer: so you 'll you 'll need a a kind of a joystick uh button . marketing: yeah or or the integrated scroll-wheel push-button . industrial designer: yeah . marketing: so that 's kind of on your mouse and then you can click it , adjust it , click again and then you 're out of it . industrial designer: exactly . marketing: but you still but you then still need to have well you can use the scroll-wheel as well for um maybe for the channels . but you still um industrial designer: yeah it 's r yeah . marketing: you still have to have some some button in the menu to go back . user interface: so you do one inte you can do one integrated scroll-wheel push-button . marketing: yeah . user interface: and then just drop all the other buttons . project manager: uh yeah . marketing: well not all . user interface: but but th the cost of one integrated button is far more than a few extra push-buttons . marketing: not s not sound i guess . industrial designer: no . project manager: yeah . it 's uh one integrated button is five times the cost of a normal button . marketing: user interface: yeah . marketing: mm . project manager: so user interface: so we have to to make it s uh more uh it has to be project manager: you could also drop j three more of these , without losing much functionality . you just drop the okay and the back . marketing: yeah . wh wh what what what is the what is the uh sample sensor sample speaker ? project manager: oh , that 's for the speech . marketing: speech recognition . project manager: yeah . user interface: could drop the speech recognition . marketing: right . project manager: s s drop speech recognition ? industrial designer: no but project manager: yeah that 's possible . user interface: we we d industrial designer: yeah it 's it 's expensive , but uh we never considered the possibilities of uh speech recognition . 'cause it can take the function of a lot of uh uh buttons . project manager: buttons . marketing: buttons . project manager: that 's not very easy to use . user interface: yeah . industrial designer: i marketing: no , it can be disturbed by by noise and industrial designer: no . project manager: industrial designer: yeah but lets just say that the speech recognition works . marketing: stuff like that . let let let me see what 's more what 's more popular . i guess the the screen was more popular than um than the speech recognition . user interface: yeah . marketing: i have to look on that . let me see . uh well no i was wrong . project manager: marketing: there are more people who like speech recognition than an lcd screen . project manager: yep . okay . because if you d lose the lcd screen , we need a lot of marketing: but if it but it it it 's a it 's a both a hypers user interface: we lose our whole concept . project manager: yeah . user interface: uh so no we just project manager: we need a lot of extra buttons . marketing: no , but user interface: we keep the lcd . marketing: well we yeah we keep the screen . i mean it 's it 's about the same . eight one to ninety one percent , uh sixty six to seventy six . project manager: okay industrial designer: we uh we we have n't really integrated this the speech into the system , project manager: so we drop the speech . industrial designer: so we can might as well s drop that . project manager: and drop it yeah ? user interface: yeah . marketing: yeah . let 's drop the speech . project manager: okay . s fo four less euros . so we still have three and a half euro to lose . user interface: marketing: sixteen euros . industrial designer: we need to lose some buttons . marketing: but y y project manager: yeah if you lose the the back , the okay button uh v let 's say we only have the four arrows , and the menu button . marketing: yeah . yeah . project manager: then you 're marketing: and then and then use um project manager: oh and the power button we have also . marketing: the the okay . and the menu button does also does the okay function then . project manager: yeah . marketing: and then when you in the menu project manager: so that 's one euro . marketing: s so so you activate the menu . user interface: if we do uh two integrated scroll-wheel push-buttons , we can drop all the the push-buttons . project manager: yeah . yeah ? and user interface: with with one uh integrated button we can uh do the whole menu thing . with the other , we can do the the channel , the volume , et cetera . marketing: yeah yeah . yeah . . project manager: that would save zero point two euros compared to no . user interface: no it 's three euros . no ? um project manager: yeah . to this together is more expensive than oof , it 's almost the same as t keeping this . user interface: no it 's it 's n yeah . yeah yeah yeah . project manager: and we can drop these two . marketing: well okay . user interface: it 's the marketing: for example if you have f f four buttons , channel up and down , uh volume left right project manager: volume . marketing: okay , i 've i think we have to keep that . project manager: and the power button . marketing: and then and the power button . so that 's five . project manager: that 's the basic . marketing: that 's basic . that that 's what you need anyway . and then for the menu , um you can have a button that activates menu . or d or do we just integrate an an an scroll-wheel with a push-button . and then if the moment you use the scroll-wheel , the the the menu gets activated , and then you can scroll , choose an option , click on it , it goes into an feature . click on it again , selects features , scroll , adjust it . click again , it 's okay . then you only need one button to move back . or or under each option , you set a you set an a screen thing what says back , and you select that one , click again , and you go one step back . and in that menu , scroll , click , one step back . user interface: marketing: so that then you need five buttons , and one integrated scroll-wheel push-button . project manager: yep . okay th that 's marketing: but we ca n't drop three buttons . industrial designer: which that 's even marketing: but i see that 's project manager: yeah that 's one euro more expensive . marketing: yeah . industrial designer: marketing: so that 's not a good idea . project manager: that 's not an option . marketing: because which buttons do we have now ? those five which i mentioned , and then menu , and then project manager: menu , power . marketing: yeah . f of the four things ? project manager: four arrows ? marketing: yeah , th power . project manager: power . uh industrial designer: yeah , if you if you go to eight marketing: which more ? industrial designer: i do n't know how to project manager: yeah . okay . so four arrows ? marketing: yeah . project manager: uh power i believe ? marketing: power . th yeah that 's five . project manager: uh we have a back and a okay button . marketing: yeah , okay that 's seven , project manager: and the menu . marketing: and one to activate the menu , yeah . so okay that 's eight . well we ca n't reduce that . we we keep the display . project manager: yeah , and even if we drop three buttons from here , we still have to make some adjustments around here . so marketing: oh , well okay . yeah . project manager: industrial designer: yeah , we need the chip for the for the l_c_ display . marketing: project manager: the lcd ? yeah . user interface: let 's make the let 's make the case plastic . marketing: yeah well we need the advanced project manager: then i rather make it wood . marketing: instead of r project manager: because then also it 's good in the market with the forty five plus uh people . user interface: yeah . industrial designer: yeah . true . marketing: yeah but but that 's not our market . user interface: but project manager: no that maybe not . but maybe it 's better than plastic anyway . marketing: ah no , hard plastic . user interface: plastic with a with a special colour . industrial designer: oh . user interface: a woo wood uh wood uh wood colour . marketing: yeah , plastic with special colour . project manager: yeah ? marketing: no but i i project manager: yeah okay uh user interface: that 's an option . marketing: because we have to use the special colour anyway . you forgot that . user interface: yeah . project manager: yep . yeah , yeah . user interface: so we do one one s marketing: so let 's go for the plastic . user interface: yeah . project manager: yeah , okay . plastic . marketing: and since it 's not kinetic , it does n't have to flip around that much ? project manager: uh that 's easy because plastic is free . industrial designer: hmm . project manager: user interface: hmm . marketing: we still have problem of two euros . project manager: yeah , okay . uh if we dropped uh marketing: user interface: no the buttons , those are really needed . project manager: yeah ? user interface: yeah th th it 's it 's uh marketing: yeah we ca n't drop them . user interface: an advanced chip-on-print . project manager: you still need that . industrial designer: yeah uh marketing: do we really need that advanced chip for an lcd display ? industrial designer: you uh uh yeah . so the other option would be to go for the the sample speaker , and which can use a regular chip , wh which is six euros in total . project manager: s industrial designer: that does n't matter . marketing: oh . i rather keep i rather keep the display . project manager: no , i keep the re yeah . yeah . because we already designed for it . so industrial designer: well yeah . marketing: so the only option is an hand dynamo . industrial designer: exactly . user interface: oh that project manager: yeah and something else . industrial designer: yeah but the marketing: oh no tha oh that 's one euro , right . industrial designer: uh ca n't we f uh fit all the buttons in an intreg integrated scroll push-button ? 'cause that will save us one and a half euro already . and then if w marketing: and then integrated s yeah but that would make it not so easy to use . project manager: no y you would rec marketing: i mean it 's not that important , easy to use , but project manager: then you have industrial designer: th then we have to scroll through a lot of menus to be able to get where you want , huh ? project manager: then you still need two additional buttons i believe . industrial designer: and uh marketing: yeah . project manager: for the volume . industrial designer: yeah d at l yeah . at least one for power . project manager: you can use those yeah . user interface: but the project manager: oh yeah and power . that 's three buttons and this would cost industrial designer: oh . yeah it 's just as expensive as what we have now . user interface: but the integrated uh button ? how many func functions can it uh have ? project manager: yeah . three . up , down , okay . industrial designer: yeah endlessly . i mean it can be a power button as soon as it powered on . user interface: okay . industrial designer: you can go into you in you main menu , marketing: you you press it for like three seconds . industrial designer: you can choose uh flip channel , uh you can choose sound options , any options . marketing: then then then you should do everything in the menu . on the screen . industrial designer: yeah . project manager: yeah , okay . it would save enough industrial designer: maybe we should . 'cause we do n't have money and w we want the screen . project manager: yeah you can choose this , drop these , then we have a half euro left . marketing: yeah . project manager: so we can maybe still use power button . marketing: yeah , but we 'd alright . project manager: yeah . industrial designer: i guess we have to . marketing: it s it saves us four euros and it costs us two and a half . so let 's see , we we drop the price by one and a half . project manager: yeah . you see ? industrial designer: we 'll we 'll be on marketing: but we still have thirteen left . project manager: oh still yeah ? oh then i miscalculated . oh yeah . marketing: thirteen . so still half . project manager: shit . drop the special colour . marketing: there goes the special co user interface: oh no . marketing: well that would make it less appealing . so that 's no option . project manager: 'kay . what else ? uncurved ? user interface: no no , it has to be um curved . marketing: we sure about the advanced chip we need for the display ? project manager: yeah . industrial designer: yeah it says right here . project manager: they made it very easy for us . user interface: okay . marketing: well yeah . yeah . we made it hard for ourselves with the display , but it 's a cool feature . project manager: ah , i do n't think i can s uh persuade the management to say , this is better for the market so you sell more than marketing: user interface: okay . wh what we could do is um drop the the special colour , and uh do the special colour for the buttons . industrial designer: yeah . project manager: buttons . that 's oh yeah since we only have one button . user interface: yeah . industrial designer: project manager: marketing: yeah but i mean what is meant by special colour ? project manager: i just m i do n't i think user interface: just something else than than black or white i think . project manager: uh yeah it 's i think it 's grey , regular . marketing: s yeah . alright . project manager: grey and rubber . industrial designer: but we definitely want the thing to be a special colour though . project manager: of plastic . user interface: yeah . marketing: yeah . industrial designer: damn . marketing: so i rather have an hand dynamo than than drop the colour . project manager: user interface: industrial designer: yeah and then project manager: yeah . industrial designer: yeah yeah yeah yeah . marketing: you can still play with it then i guess . i do n't know . project manager: yeah . marketing: yeah , but a hand dynamo costs a lot of energy to keep the screen working . so i guess that is n't an option . user interface: the display industrial designer: well , you only have to power it up when you wan na use it . marketing: yeah . user interface: the but if you have to power the for ten minutes , then the marketing: yeah . industrial designer: i do n't know . marketing: yeah . project manager: no i do n't think the current status of uh chips are pretty uh energy conserving , no . industrial designer: . user interface: yeah . marketing: yeah true . industrial designer: yeah . marketing: let 's let 's go for the hand dynamo then . project manager: yeah hand dynamo ? do you want an extra button ? marketing: or or do we or do we do uncurved and flat ? instead of project manager: user interface: no no it has to be curved . industrial designer: yeah . marketing: yeah it has to be curved and has to have that colour . user interface: yeah . just put a special special colour of the buttons , or something . industrial designer: yeah . marketing: and a screen . industrial designer: yeah . that 's the most import project manager: yep ? instead of an additional power button ? user interface: yeah or spe special form ? marketing: yeah . s what what is special f oh yeah , special form . project manager: yeah ? marketing: maybe that 's nicer . project manager: it 's for scroll user interface: yeah . project manager: without marketing: but we do n't have any buttons . industrial designer: we only have marketing: so do user interface: yeah . but it 's it 's for the integrated button , i think also . or marketing: d uh make it a special colour then . industrial designer: yeah but marketing: yeah ma make it a special colour then . project manager: yeah but it 's just a scroll-wheel which you can push down . so user interface: yeah . okay . yeah . marketing: okay . make it a special colour and then it look fancy . project manager: yeah ? so user interface: yep . project manager: woah we 're within budget . marketing: so yeah . project manager: it 's a miracle . user interface: oh just marketing: let 's let 's save it . user interface: oh ma make it two special colours , but we only have one button . marketing: yeah . user interface: okay . marketing: let 's do it like this , i mean , because it does not lose our identity of the product as we project manager: yeah ? okay . um , well . 'kay , this was old . industrial designer: well we come back to the drawing board then , huh ? user interface: yeah . okay . marketing: yeah all your designs are uh pretty much project manager: yeah back to work . uh industrial designer: project manager: did i save it ? industrial designer: it 's silly 'cause we we should have had this meeting before we start drawing . project manager: yeah . marketing: yeah but that but that 's the fun part of it . project manager: i i wanted to go , but i was n't allowed . so industrial designer: oh yeah ? okay . marketing: alright . project manager: uh i just forgot to save this . just a minute . . marketing: yeah what 's the next uh phase ? project manager: yeah , this the last phase of course , so marketing: uh the agenda . by your humble p_m_ . project manager: hmm . oh . marketing: oh f frustrated . alright . project manager: okay . um marketing: yeah . project manager: well we first should have had a uh prototype presentation . but well as you saw that had n't made no sense , because we had to drop it . industrial designer: drop everything . yeah . marketing: drop , yeah . project manager: uh industrial designer: we went straight into finance ? project manager: yeah . user interface: marketing: project manager: yeah it was more important , so i just marketing: yeah . yeah . industrial designer: for yeah . project manager: pushed up the agenda . industrial designer: yeah . project manager: uh , evaluation criteria . you have t produced something about that ? marketing: yeah that that 's yeah . i uh i sure did . and it combines with product evaluation . uh so project manager: uh you put it in the . marketing: we all have to keep in mind what has changed now . so what we have left on the because evaluation is based on the initial uh user requirements . project manager: yeah . marketing: alright . project manager: f_ five . marketing: let 's make it big . um well we evaluate uh the design with a seven point scale , as following . well the remote controls according criteria blah blah blah . true or false , and then on a scale of seven points , a scale , as we all know it . industrial designer: mm-hmm . project manager: user interface: marketing: um well the criteria are based on the user requirements , uh the trends from the marketing research , and the marketing strategy of the company itself . um well they are in a word document , which i will open now . project manager: alt up marketing: yeah . i do n't know it 's open yet . no . and we all have to uh agree on a certain level . what 's this ? project manager: freaky . marketing: oh . i do n't know . um well the first point is the remote control matches the operating behaviour of the young user . so that means the operating behaviour was using quite a lot of functions . how do you think about that ? industrial designer: i think it does . because the operating behaviour of the young user was also defined in colour and shape and the use of lcd , project manager: yeah . industrial designer: right ? project manager: uh , of course we dropped a little bit of those uh marketing: yeah the us u it it industrial designer: yeah . marketing: it 's it 's mainly con mainly concentrating on a lot of functions , in this question . project manager: mm-hmm . marketing: so do you think industrial designer: well , we have extended menus , on the on the lcd screen . so marketing: yeah . you can you can ma user interface: yep . marketing: yeah , you can make a lot of extended menus . that 's true . i mean the the possibilities are almost unlimited , to to build in menus in the screen . industrial designer: i no . marketing: so on a scale from one to seven , what do you think ? user interface: two or three . two or three . marketing: huh ? two or three ? something like that ? project manager: two . industrial designer: yeah . marketing: well we have to choose one . so uh what do you say ? project manager: uh y we should fill this in now . marketing: i agree on two . project manager: yeah okay . marketing: yeah . project manager: uh marketing: i uh i say two , personally . but project manager: yeah in the new design i s would say it 's three . but now , in original design i say two . user interface: yeah . industrial designer: yeah alright . marketing: yeah well we have to evaluate i guess what we have now . project manager: okay then i say three . marketing: yeah ? you say three , industrial designer: yeah yeah . marketing: and you you said al also three ? user interface: yeah . marketing: three ? okay well i say still two , but it has to be three then . project manager: hey , you 're marketing , eh . user interface: marketing: yeah i know . so it 's made bold . but it 's nah , it 's not very clear on the sc project manager: hmm . m maybe underline . user interface: or give it a colour . marketing: maybe other colour , yeah . that 's better . project manager: red . marketing: uh yeah . alright . oh , it does n't have to be bold anymore . project manager: oh yeah very true . user interface: marketing: alright . yeah . user interface: yeah true one . marketing: um well the remote control has wha project manager: he types everything . industrial designer: definitely one . it has to be . user interface: yeah . marketing: the remote control has irrelevant or less used functions . for example audio settings and screen settings . user interface: it hides uh basic functions . project manager: everything . you do n't use anything else . marketing: yeah . well , yeah . so it it 's a very true point . i mean it hides all those function . industrial designer: you 're not gon na find them . project manager: yeah . yeah okay . yeah . user interface: yeah true . marketing: but , i mean uh they 're hidden in the screen . if you do n't want to use them , you do n't s you s just scroll over them . and you place them project manager: mm-hmm . marketing: f i do n't know where . so that 's very true , i guess , for our case . industrial designer: yeah the next not so much so . marketing: uh the second point . it shows the relevant and most used functions . project manager: nope . marketing: power button . do we ha still have a power button ? project manager: uh check with the excel sheet . marketing: well yeah the button 's integrated , huh ? user interface: i think we are industrial designer: yeah . yeah it 's uh it 's integrated . marketing: yeah we dropped it . you j you just push it in for user interface: it 's in oh yeah it was integrateds . yeah . project manager: yeah integrate it . marketing: yeah just just push it in for th for three seconds or something , and then project manager: yeah . industrial designer: e exactly just like a m mobile . marketing: yeah . i do n't know . project manager: just go scrolling and it will activate . user interface: marketing: yeah . um it shows the relevant and most used functions . industrial designer: . marketing: yeah uh on the other uh on one side i would say yes , and the other side i would say no . so it 's i do n't know . project manager: it shows the most used functions and they are relevant , but user interface: can you uh change channels directly with with just one button ? marketing: yeah . user interface: no , you have to scroll through the menu , before marketing: with the scroll butt yeah and then say channel . and then user interface: yeah . so it 's it 's not industrial designer: well uh we should b build it so that if you do n't kind of push into the menu or something , if when it 's on , yeah , it 's turned on , project manager: you say you double click on the marketing: hmm ? industrial designer: it automatically has the the programme and the volume function , marketing: yeah . industrial designer: but as soon as you click it you go into the menu or some of you marketing: yeah . industrial designer: or you double click it . marketing: but but how do you change from volume to channel ? project manager: industrial designer: no because it has four arrows , right ? project manager: no , not anymore . user interface: no . marketing: no . project manager: because he 's now have a scroll-wheel that you can push in . industrial designer: oh yeah . user interface: yeah . project manager: like on the the mouse . industrial designer: yeah i was thinking still about our uh integrated joystick . marketing: no we have n we have no buttons left . so industrial designer: say . marketing: the joystick was not an option . industrial designer: yeah that is a bummer . marketing: so so you hav project manager: yeah . marketing: so you you have to double-click , i mean , for , i mean , uh volume , project manager: to get into menu . yeah . marketing: and three double click for the menu , or something . user interface: oh no . project manager: or hold it ten seconds . industrial designer: we 'll make it a morse code . marketing: yeah . yeah . yeah . alright . user interface: marketing: but but ease of use was not very important , may i remind you . project manager: no no no . uh it should be trendy . marketing: so that 's user interface: industrial designer: marketing: yeah but that that 's not a question . industrial designer: marketing: uh the remote control shows the relevant and most used functions . user interface: marketing: well i think it 's pretty much in the middle . project manager: yeah . four . marketing: you have to search for them in in the in the s in the screen , in the menu . so project manager: yeah , im in the menu . user interface: seven . industrial designer: yeah . marketing: so maybe it 's more like a f a five . or user interface: yeah . five . industrial designer: yeah i would go for five or six , yeah . marketing: yeah . five or six ? project manager: five . user interface: five . yep . industrial designer: okay five . marketing: five ? alright . industrial designer: let 's not diss our remote . user interface: marketing: yeah . project manager: it 's the weirdest remote control i 've ever seen . so marketing: oh . yeah . industrial designer: yep . just one button . project manager: well it 's different . marketing: yeah . alright . uh the the remote control makes use of technolog technological innovation like lcd screen and speech recognition . industrial designer: but uh yep . project manager: yeah . marketing: well yeah but we dropped the speech recognition . but it has at least one innovation . project manager: yeah , it 's still yeah , i say two . user interface: yeah . industrial designer: we still have the fruit and vegetable print . marketing: i say two then . project manager: oh , that 's the next . marketing: yeah but that that 's not that 's not this question . uh thi uh that 's the other question . industrial designer: fr oh i mean the oh never mind . i 'm a bit lost . project manager: marketing: this one . user interface: i think a two . no . project manager: two . marketing: two yeah . industrial designer: . user interface: yep . marketing: i think lcd 's more useful than speech project manager: yeah definitely . marketing: what ? oh not the bold one . industrial designer: it 's way more practical , yeah . marketing: right . okay , it has a fancy look and feel by using fruit and vegetable prints , primary colours and sponge-like material . industrial designer: yeah . marketing: it should have been two questions . i realise now , because sponge-like material is dropped . project manager: marketing: but the look and feel project manager: you still have rubber d or no . industrial designer: yeah . so we still uh we still have the primary colours . but only on the on the outside , not on the button . user interface: no you got a plastic . marketing: yeah . project manager: yeah . user interface: yeah . marketing: the button has also colour . yeah . project manager: yeah . industrial designer: yeah ? project manager: the one button we have . industrial designer: okay . marketing: yeah . the one . industrial designer: yeah . yeah still we we dropped also on the the double uh curve . project manager: yeah you could check with the excel sheet . marketing: mm mm . user interface: yeah . you only have one yeah . marketing: yeah we have single curve now , industrial designer: and and colour . marketing: and no and no material industrial designer: yeah . s marketing: . so maybe in the middle or something . project manager: yeah . user interface: four . yeah . industrial designer: yeah . marketing: yeah , i mean it 's project manager: yeah or three . industrial designer: uh marketing: worth the yeah . project manager: we have something . industrial designer: actually we d we did n't do so well on this one . because it 's basically an old one , uh with little curve on the side , and in a different colour . still , it 's still hard . marketing: yeah . industrial designer: i mean the sponge-like and the three d_ shape , that would give it something young and fresh . project manager: new . yeah . marketing: yeah . but then we would have to drop the screen . user interface: red . marketing: oh red . yeah . project manager: you like both . marketing: yeah . i like bold . project manager: marketing: uh the remote control displays the corporate logo . project manager: um oh yeah . user interface: mm yeah yeah . industrial designer: of course . project manager: i just could n't marketing: yeah . industrial designer: marketing: you just have to draw it . project manager: um , just one minute . user interface: it 's the white part uh industrial designer: yeah but it be because uh we could n't hardly draw on the b s on the lower half of the screen , we could not make it big enough to actually draw in the project manager: . user interface: yeah . marketing: yeah . project manager: so user interface: we have a we have a industrial designer: so i mean i wanted to put digits on the buttons as well . but marketing: but there 's uh enough space for the corporate logo . i mean , if there 's only one thing . industrial designer: hell yeah . if we have only one button . marketing: yeah . so i will say that is very true . project manager: . user interface: mm-hmm . industrial designer: and even the shape we have now uh simulates kind of an r_ and the reversed r_ , user interface: industrial designer: does n't it ? marketing: yeah . industrial designer: so marketing: the remote control is easy to use . well i would say industrial designer: no . marketing: skill , uh i would say six , or something . i do n't think it 's easy to use , or not so . industrial designer: the only e the only thing easy about it is that you do n't have to move your fingers . 'cause it has only one button . user interface: ah i marketing: yeah . user interface: and that you only have to control one button . industrial designer: yeah exactly . marketing: yeah . it it it has a nice screen . but yeah . user interface: it gives visual feedback . so marketing: yeah . well i i would say a five or a six . user interface: i think a five . five . industrial designer: i would say six . marketing: what do you say ? easy to use ? five or a six ? industrial designer: it 's really not easy to use . user interface: project manager: no not anymore . user interface: industrial designer: 'cause you 're putting everything marketing: so a six , more . project manager: yeah . marketing: yeah , uh i would go for the six too . so user interface: okay . yeah . industrial designer: most votes count . um project manager: marketing: user interface: marketing: um well , another question , user interface: yeah that looks uh great . marketing: uh the remote control is durable . user interface: marketing: i do n't know if that 's the correct word . user interface: yeah . nah industrial designer: definitely in casing , 'cause we have a hard plastic marketing: but uh in use , both battery as casing ? industrial designer: yeah . yeah because the the batteries , those thingies last forever . marketing: yeah ? true , true . industrial designer: and the the casing , hard plastic also lasts forever . marketing: and the casing is plastic , ? user interface: yep . marketing: yeah . if you do n't drop it too much , it 's uh should last pretty long . project manager: yeah . industrial designer: so i would go for one . marketing: yeah ? but uh i think rubber compared is better . so i think a two is more appropriate user interface: yeah . s project manager: user interface: yep . industrial designer: okay yeah . marketing: than user interface: wow . marketing: yeah . logo . project manager: yeah . user interface: marketing: okay i will go go for two . uh the last one ? the remote control 's a good example for company 's motto , we put the fashion in electronics . industrial designer: oh . no m user interface: no we put the electronics into the fashion . project manager: yeah well yeah . industrial designer: i would g marketing: uh turn around . yeah . but um industrial designer: i would go for four . project manager: no marketing: yeah ? industrial designer: because we kind of tried to but we kind of failed with the budget that we have . marketing: it 's not yeah , true . project manager: yeah okay . marketing: so a four . it 's it g it g goes , it 's not the best we could do , i guess . industrial designer: yeah . marketing: but it all has to do with the budget , because it 's it 's not the bad idea we had , so industrial designer: yeah . yeah yeah . user interface: yeah , four is okay . marketing: alright , yeah . right . project manager: so industrial designer: that 's it . marketing: so if i understood it right , we have to count these numbers . project manager: ooh . and yeah ? what ? marketing: uh yeah . mm-hmm . oh project manager: yeah . marketing: oh alright . word document , the project manager: yeah . that marketing: yeah we have to count them . project manager: count them . add them ? or marketing: uh yeah just add them and then uh divide them . project manager: could somebody start calculator ? marketing: yeah . mm . industrial designer: ah we can do the math . uh marketing: i all made it po i i all made it user interface: marketing: i all made it possible uh for a positive questions , so we can count it . project manager: mm-hmm . marketing: i mean if you have reversed question , you have to reverse the scale , project manager: yeah , yeah . you have to marketing: uh yes . project manager: 'kay . so four and industrial designer: yeah . did you make this questionnaire or what ? marketing: yeah . thanks . project manager: nice work . user interface: okay . industrial designer: oh . user interface: three plus ? industrial designer: i would n't be able to do it that fast . project manager: o one . user interface: plus one . project manager: plus five . user interface: plus five ? marketing: oh easy . project manager: bo marketing: question number four , yeah ? project manager: uh two . marketing: yeah . project manager: four . user interface: oh . wait a second . oh . industrial designer: f project manager: user interface: it 's it 's gone wrong . marketing: how hard is it ? user interface: okay . it 's your turn . industrial designer: pretty difficult . marketing: yeah just use project manager: start over ? user interface: no it 's if you press twice on the plus button , then you get s s marketing: oh there tho uh there 's no n there 's no num pads . project manager: you can oh yeah . user interface: no . that 's why it 's uh marketing: it 's a it 's a bit uh industrial designer: just type in the digits . they 're all one digit numbers right ? and then you can count them together . marketing: yeah . i think you can just count them by a user interface: just count it to yeah . marketing: um let 's move over . project manager: okay . three , four , nine . marketing: three , plus one , four . nine . project manager: uh marketing: uh , yeah . are you here ? industrial designer: eleven . marketing: eleven . project manager: eleven , industrial designer: fifteen . marketing: fifteen . project manager: fifteen . user interface: sixteen . industrial designer: sixteen . marketing: sixteen , yeah . industrial designer: seventeen . project manager: seventeen . marketing: no sixteen . uh sixteen plus six . industrial designer: oh what ? user interface: twenty two . project manager: s uh industrial designer: how hard is this ? marketing: twenty two . twenty two , yeah ? user interface: twenty four . twenty six . industrial designer: never mind . twenty four . twenty eight . marketing: tw user interface: oh , sorry . . marketing: twenty twenty eight . project manager: that was the last one . that was that . user interface: oh my . industrial designer: twenty eight . project manager: yeah . user interface: okay . twenty eight . project manager: so divided by nine . marketing: twen uh okay . by nine . user interface: hmm . marketing: that 's uh three uh or le less than a three . project manager: so industrial designer: yeah the lower the the lower the score the better , right ? project manager: yeah . marketing: yeah . twenty eight industrial designer: yeah but project manager: divided by nine . marketing: di divided by nine project manager: so thr t two . marketing: makes three point one one one one one one one . project manager: so we 're better than average . industrial designer: but marketing: yeah . industrial designer: i are you sure we this number actually tells us somethings ? project manager: no . industrial designer: i do n't think so because some questions are related to positive issues and some to negative . marketing: user interface: some questions are yeah . industrial designer: so if you give a true to a positive , it actually means that the low the lower the better . but if you give true to a negative question marketing: yeah , but there are no negative questions i guess . industrial designer: no ? marketing: good example . durable use . industrial designer: durable , that 's good . marketing: easy to use . this is good . industrial designer: easy to use . marketing: fancy look and feel , that 's good . industrial designer: yeah . . marketing: technology innovation was good , because of a marketing uh requirement . industrial designer: also good . yeah okay . marketing: re relevant most used function . industrial designer: i guess you did do it . marketing: and hides these functions . that was also a good thing . user interface: oh yeah . yeah . industrial designer: oh yeah yeah . no marketing: and then matches the opera of the user was also a good thing . user interface: yeah . industrial designer: okay . okay . marketing: so it were all positive questions , by uh by purpose . so industrial designer: yeah true . marketing: yes , so the it tells us something , yes . becau but the picture would be a lot different if we did n't have to drop those uh those things , i guess . user interface: oh great . project manager: things , yeah . industrial designer: yeah definitely definitely . project manager: okay . industrial designer: because now it 's just an average it 's remote . marketing: yeah . nah it it 's it 's better than average , but industrial designer: yeah okay because of the lcd screen . but uh it looks and stuff , it still uh marketing: yeah . so th project manager: it 's still yeah . marketing: yeah . project manager: has some shortcomings . industrial designer: it 's not , it 's not really eye-catching , except for the colour . marketing: no . project manager: marketing: the colour and the screen . industrial designer: yeah . project manager: okay so um this we had , this we had . we have to do a product evaluation . industrial designer: product evaluation . project manager: uh prototype presentation we dropped . so uh the finance we looked . we have redesigned . uh not on that , but marketing: yeah we we have to maybe if we have to redesign it on this project manager: so you can just make one big lcd screen . user interface: okay it 's your turn now . industrial designer: shall we try ? marketing: with some casing around it , yeah . industrial designer: black . okay uh we 're still gon na go for the fancy colours ? project manager: yeah uh user interface: yeah . industrial designer: but are we gon na stick with the green or are we gon na do blue ? marketing: yeah . user interface: yeah we we can just uh use this one . and then uh over-paint it with uh uh the green uh project manager: the the button has a special colour , the frame has a special colour . marketing: yeah . user interface: he only needs one button . industrial designer: one scroll button and project manager: it 's plastic . and single curved . user interface: yeah . or we have to delete this one or marketing: yeah . project manager: oh and you might want to add a uh infrared led . user interface: oh oh no . marketing: oh yeah . project manager: otherwise it uh does n't function uh so well . industrial designer: for what ? user interface: okay . marketing: yeah . project manager: user interface: so that 's marketing: do we have to do other things ? project manager: well i have to um um make an uh report of every decision we made so far . marketing: or just redesign ? alright . project manager: and i try to get chip just before uh i uh receive the excel sheet . marketing: yeah . project manager: so i marketing: so you made a start , right ? project manager: yeah i 'm i 'm somewhere , but maybe you can help me . industrial designer: should give it some time ? marketing: yeah . industrial designer: yay . project manager: uh user interface: okay , but how do we make the the scroll uh button ? project manager: i was here . so user interface: it 's just one industrial designer: have to take this away also . marketing: alright . user interface: yeah . project manager: ah industrial designer: and this um user interface: uh that 's the infrared uh thing . industrial designer: oh yeah , of course . marketing: the the target group has a weak spot for fruit and vegetables , like primary colours , spongy shape . user interface: yeah . industrial designer: um pen yeah ? format . current colour red . marketing: the playfulness , we decided to use kinetic energy as a power sour industrial designer: oh yeah we did our special colour for the user interface: yeah . marketing: okay . industrial designer: line widths , now that 's a ten . marketing: that 's conceptual , yes . project manager: that 's enough to get started with , so user interface: yeah . um , uh it 's just a scroll marketing: mm . industrial designer: it 's gon na be one str scroll . user interface: yeah , is it 's horizontal or vertical ? marketing: how many pages ? project manager: uh , i just took one for every step and then a conclusion . user interface: i think marketing: alright . y you have you have done the first two . industrial designer: horizontal 's easier too , project manager: yeah . industrial designer: 'cause you can marketing: okay , and and the look and feel is user interface: yeah . industrial designer: is it more natural than this ? project manager: well i think i have to make a p an issue called finance . user interface: yeah , yeah . industrial designer: so let 's say whoops . 'kay . marketing: yeah . user interface: yes . industrial designer: basically . user interface: it does n't look like uh marketing: the items we had to drop . project manager: yeah . user interface: uh it it 's it 's not yeah . it 's not very fashionable anymore . but uh it 's okay . industrial designer: it 's really ugly . user interface: yeah . marketing: where did we start with price ? user interface: maybe m make it bigger ? or marketing: twenty six and a half . project manager: mm-hmm . marketing: or not ? or twenty six ? something like that . user interface: yeah . that looks little bit more uh maybe that 's a s a special colour for it . so we can make it uh special ? industrial designer: oh marketing: this ? industrial designer: what do you mean ? like a other colour than this one ? user interface: or or speckles in it ? i dunno . uh marketing: speckles ? user interface: industrial designer: yeah can we do it uh uh can we do a print ? user interface: .. $ i 'm not sure . project manager: ... . i do n't think so , if you see the options . but industrial designer: i think we have to choose , yeah ? marketing: uh industrial designer: okay special colour . we do have special colour . user interface: yeah red is already a special colour , i think . so industrial designer: does it mean uh that user interface: it 's not very special , but uh marketing: yeah . industrial designer: shall we just give it some dots to make it look pretty ? user interface: yeah . just uh put the purple uh purple on it . industrial designer: purdy . marketing: yeah . some some big dots . industrial designer: purple ? user interface: that 's trendy . industrial designer: yeah yeah . marketing: yeah . industrial designer: oh no my remote has acne . marketing: ... . we have the original balance sheet , or project manager: yeah . user interface: marketing: yeah . user interface: woah . industrial designer: no . that 's why we have that button . project manager: user interface: oh yeah . industrial designer: it 's so cute . user interface: hmm . oh what ? industrial designer: doh . marketing: woah . user interface: ? marketing: just cut . control z_ . user interface: oh no . industrial designer: is that that ? project manager: marketing: yeah . user interface: no no . yeah . marketing: yeah . industrial designer: how the we did we do that ? user interface: oh it 's it 's just one computer ? or marketing: just dual screen . project manager: user interface: no . but can we delete it , just with delete ? or industrial designer: we can try . project manager: industrial designer: that does n't respond also to the undo . it looks like it 's user interface: crashed . oh , no . industrial designer: no , marketing: very nice . user interface: okay . industrial designer: where do you want some more dots ? project manager: user interface: yeah , over here . project manager: you ca n't even draw anymore . user interface: hmm ? marketing: yeah . y y you you user interface: what 's this ? project manager: even children can draw . marketing: you push the button or something . or project manager: can you just push pen and then keep on user interface: oh yeah . oh that 's the select button . project manager: hmm . user interface: it 's uh industrial designer: okay , it 's not the prettiest , i know . user interface: no , it looks industrial designer: it 's not so random huh ? marketing: lot of options . project manager: user interface: it 's okay . specially the the r_ . industrial designer: marketing: yeah , the r_ and another r_ . industrial designer: yeah okay . marketing: it 's called the real remote , right ? project manager: yeah . marketing: maybe maybe it c it can say that . the real remote . project manager: yeah just on the the m um the lcd display . marketing: yeah . welcome . project manager: this is your real remote . industrial designer: we can make a l a logo . marketing: yeah . yeah . industrial designer: like uh put it like the shape . project manager: yeah . user interface: d designed by industrial designer: something like that . user interface: okay . industrial designer: i mean it 's not too uh that 's not their logo , is it ? user interface: no . do they have a lo oh , the here . this i this is the logo . industrial designer: yeah . user interface: two r_s and a one industrial designer: it 's a project manager: yeah . you can just reuse that , because the name is the same . initials . user interface: . industrial designer: marketing: you can copy and paste the picture if you want . industrial designer: how shall we do the logo in black or not ? project manager: mm . user interface: yeah . marketing: yeah . what is that ? look more looks more like a campfire . user interface: industrial designer: are you dissing my drawing ? this one ? marketing: yeah . industrial designer: it looks like a ribbon . marketing: . yeah . user interface: okay . industrial designer: so who wants to draw ? this is actually quite fun . do we need to do anything ? user interface: are we uh ready ? uh or industrial designer: i hear you people are typing . marketing: type in your report . industrial designer: oh , okay . marketing: i do n't see any new messages . so project manager: luckily . marketing: hmm ? luckily , yeah . user interface: is this uh the last assignment ? or project manager: yeah , it 's uh user interface: final project manager: yeah . industrial designer: it 's almost four . marketing: what time do we have to deliver the report ? four o'clock or industrial designer: at four , yeah , ? marketing: or before that ? project manager: okay . and copy this . marketing: just compare uh project manager: just a minute . industrial designer: this is really bizarre . project manager: it 's industrial designer: it looks like there 's a it looks like a butterfly . user interface: um bug . bug . project manager: it 's somewhere i d it is n't inside . user interface: no it 's in inside the industrial designer: project manager: yeah , and do n't know how it 's or eject it . marketing: no it 's on the on the beamer i guess . user interface: no it oh . project manager: from up there ? industrial designer: no , but it i it 's not a bu a beamer . project manager: no . industrial designer: b it 's a normal tv screen , kind of thing . project manager: yeah it 's somewhere in here . user interface: hey , you 've got it uh read only . so you have to uh project manager: save copy . marketing: yeah . strange . this something what 's projection from behind , i guess . project manager: yeah . user interface: . project manager: . user interface: it 's too uh industrial designer: oh . yeah there is some kind of projection i think . project manager: yes . marketing: yeah it it 's a beamer , but then with a industrial designer: with a with a mirror , huh ? or something . marketing: within a mirror , yeah . project manager: . industrial designer: yeah . marketing: so it looks like a big screen , but in fact it is n't . industrial designer: so are we gon na change anything to this ? user interface: it is industrial designer: i mean is it gon na marketing: well it 's it 's single single curved . project manager: well user interface: it 's now single curved . so it 's flat . oh no . industrial designer: this is gon na be flat . yeah exactly . marketing: th this is flat . yeah . project manager: user interface: okay . it does n't matter . it 's it 's marketing: but it 's it 's better to have in the front , this kind of shape , because it looks nice . project manager: marketing: i mean you see more of this than of that . industrial designer: yeah . marketing: yeah , more like that . industrial designer: yeah . and this is also gon na be marketing: it 's not very uh ideal . industrial designer: nope . marketing: do like this . industrial designer: but sometimes then uh all of a sudden it does work . marketing: yeah . what 's this ? user interface: that 's the detector uh for the marketing: ooh . user interface: okay . industrial designer: maybe marketing: but i do n't see a detector over there . user interface: yeah . i do n't know . industrial designer: no it 's i think you only need two points . or not . no , you sh marketing: i thought it was a kind of thing to put it on , and then draw right lines or something . user interface: maybe that 's why it 's it 's not working , because it 's more industrial designer: slanted yeah . marketing: user interface: yeah . industrial designer: yeah . marketing: yeah . or just messed it up . user interface: industrial designer: well maybe . user interface: oh . oh yeah . marketing: yeah . industrial designer: yeah it it matters for the aim of this thing . user interface: yeah . marketing: yeah but it was n't good . user interface: you 've to make it s uh ninety degrees . marketing: yeah it it has to touch the corners , i guess . but th this one was n't good , because if i was drawing here , i drew a line and then it came over here . project manager: um now you probably have to recalibrate . user interface: you have marketing: project manager: oh , five minutes to the end of the meeting . user interface: oh we 're always long . marketing: oh . project manager: and the recalibration is done using this icon here . user interface: yeah , can we t can we get to that @ i marketing: ooh . project manager: user interface: oh it 's not working anymore . project manager: yeah well i just marketing: yeah yeah , it 's it 's okay . it 's working again . industrial designer: user interface: oh yeah yeah yeah yeah , it 's it 's working , it 's working . project manager: okay . industrial designer: yeah . user interface: yeah . marketing: it 's better than before . user interface: we 're improving uh yeah . marketing: yeah . project manager: you go ahead . user interface: yeah . marketing: yeah that 's improved uh pretty much . industrial designer: yeah it 's only a bit like to that side , but that is that one by the way . marketing: yeah . yeah but it 's better , it 's better user interface: no it industrial designer: 'cause this one makes the angle either like this . so i if i change this , it will go there , if i change that , will go there . marketing: mm . no . it 's better than it was i guess . industrial designer: mm-hmm . i will take this away 'cause it looks messy . marketing: silly . yeah . works pretty well . five minutes before the meeting 's over . project manager: yeah . yeah . marketing: and then ? project manager: then i have to uh uh write this , marketing: we have to present project manager: and i do n't know if you have to present , because i did n't receive any information about that so far . marketing: alright . industrial designer: maybe we will . project manager: maybe we get a a final mail . marketing: so it after the after after these five minutes , you have to project manager: yeah . yeah , i have still ten minutes to finish the report . industrial designer: what 's this anyway ? user interface: so cake . marketing: alright . after after that five minutes , you have ten minutes to finish it , or industrial designer: it looks like candle wax . project manager: yeah . marketing: alright . and we uh project manager: and you can uh just uh relax and uh have cup of coffee or marketing: right . chill . project manager: oh no , they do n't have beer here so you ca n't celebrate . marketing: huh . project manager: you can just if you ma finish my presentation please . uh over there . marketing: uh yeah ? project manager: the presentation is still open . so if you finish that then you 'll see uh yeah next . marketing: next slide . project manager: oh yeah , we have to do the project uh evaluation . just uh do that quickly . marketing: yeah ? project manager: uh marketing: how do you do it ? project manager: uh well basically what that says , we discuss it and um marketing: alright . project manager: so how were did the project process uh go ? did you , were you all pleased with the process as it was ? or are there uh industrial designer: uh th uh do you mean the the interaction between us ? or project manager: yeah the interaction and the steps we followed , and and so forth . industrial designer: yeah well at first i was really stressed . because it went a bit fast . project manager: marketing: yeah . industrial designer: but then as i knew the tempo that i had to be on , the second time i think i did a bit better . marketing: yeah . project manager: yeah . industrial designer: and the third time yeah , i mean marketing: and we move more to to working together as team , user interface: no . project manager: mm-hmm . marketing: because at first you you make your individual contribution , and then come here , and you have no idea what the others have to make . project manager: . user interface: no . industrial designer: yeah , yeah yeah yeah . marketing: and then finally you have some idea , okay this is gon na w this is what we gon na make together and okay i will arrange this and you will arrange that , project manager: mm-hmm . marketing: and you have a k a kind of idea what you can expect on the next half hour when you have to work on your own . so user interface: yeah . industrial designer: yeah we marketing: the process , i mean , the interaction between us became better and better i guess . project manager: mm-hmm . user interface: yeah . especially after the first meeting . industrial designer: mm-hmm . user interface: and marketing: yeah , especially if f f if you see uh you se you saw the largest difference from the first to the second meeting i guess . user interface: yeah . industrial designer: yeah . definitely . project manager: okay and was that due to my leadership ? user interface: yeah yeah yeah . marketing: industrial designer: well you did become more assertive the the second time round , so that project manager: yeah ? user interface: yeah . industrial designer: yeah . you were more in charge kind of thing . project manager: that okay ? marketing: yeah . project manager: okay . um was there uh enough room for creativity ? industrial designer: i guess so . marketing: yeah . user interface: yeah but only the the financial parts uh industrial designer: i mean marketing: li limiteded afterwards , user interface: yeah . marketing: but if if you do n't take that into account , there 's plenty of room for creativ creativity . industrial designer: i marketing: also not only the drawing and the the making of the thing itself , but also in explaining it to the other people , by means of uh industrial designer: we were pretty democratic . marketing: the the board and uh powerpoint and word and stuff like that . project manager: so and the uh about the board digital pen ? uh was that helpful or industrial designer: yeah . project manager: ooh . marketing: mm uh i think in in essence project manager: marketing: the digital pen is better than the smartboard . because it it it just works better . project manager: yeah it works . marketing: i mean uh uh i 've made yeah , uh i 've made several notes just to test it , and and just put the pen in into it , and then it came onto my screen and it looked perfectly . user interface: yeah . marketing: so it it 's better a better device than uh project manager: mm-hmm . industrial designer: maybe yeah . marketing: than the screen . but the screen is useful , in essence , but it does n't work that well . industrial designer: it 's uh it 's the the pen is more intuitive , 'cause we 're all used to writing with pen . project manager: use the pen . industrial designer: and uh as i said , uh i uh have no idea how powerpoint works , so will take me half a day to be able to make a normal powerpoint presentation . marketing: yeah . industrial designer: but once i get to know the program probably , i mean , it looks better , you know . or uh something like that . you can give it a kind of a home style , like we have i the the logo and everything . project manager: yeah yeah . industrial designer: and i do n't know . marketing: yep . project manager: blink . oh . marketing: warning . finish meeting now . user interface: finish meeting . project manager: okay , are are there any new ideas about this ? all i think marketing: well , it project manager: i did n't really receive , yeah . marketing: it 's use especially useful , i guess , to to evaluate designs and graph graphical stuff . project manager: uh uh w uh marketing: and and project manager: s sorry uh marketing: the screen and stuff like that . project manager: mm-hmm . user interface: i think the powerpoint is is too limited . you ca n't uh draw easy in in powerpoint . it has to be uh yeah . the drawing board has to be integrated into powerpoint , so that you can just easily marketing: yeah . user interface: industrial designer: yeah the the the problem with powerpoint for me is that you have to i put in the pre-made chunks c as well . project manager: yeah . user interface: yeah . industrial designer: you know , you can draw something on the sketch-board and then take it there , or whatever . marketing: yeah . yeah . but it it 's useful to to show something to to an a small audience , and then to user interface: yeah just for text , for text it 's uh it 's okay . but marketing: yeah . these these kind of screens this size are useful to discuss things . so project manager: oh . user interface: marketing: yes . check your email . project manager: uh we should uh enter our questionnaire . marketing: you also . user interface: 'kay . project manager: ah . woah . industrial designer: alright . marketing: right . project manager: okay . uh okay . user interface: okay . industrial designer: alright . marketing: yes boss . industrial designer: well , s see you in a second huh ? . project manager: that 's the management . marketing: well see you soon . user interface: oh . project manager: hope so . user interface: okay . marketing: yeah . project manager: um industrial designer: yeah we have to pull it this way , huh ? wait . </s> [SEP]summarize the group 's attempts to redesign the conceptual remote control because of the limited budget .
according to the project manager , the group had gone far beyond the budget , so they had to cut down something on the current conceptual remote design . the first idea they came up with was to reduce the number of the buttons . the industrial design proposed to use an integrating button to replace the scattered ones , but inevitably , this also had some defects . the user interface focused on the material and he put forward to choose a cheaper material like wood or plastics . paying attention to the energy consumption , the marketing suggested using a hand dynamo to save the cost of batteries .