what was the decision of the functionalities of buttons ?[SEP] <s>project manager: okay , all set ? welcome to the conceptual design meeting . user interface: uh , okay . industrial designer: yes . project manager: the agenda . the opening . i 'll again be the secretary and make minutes , take minutes , uh and it will be three presentations , just like the last meeting . so um , who wants to start off ? technical uh designer again ? user interface: again . project manager: okay . user interface: hmm . project manager: uh , yeah . uh , before we begin it , i want to say i 've i 've put the minutes of the uh second meeting in the shared folder , but they 're still not uh quite okay . it uh it uh still some technical difficulties so the the first part of the minutes are very hard to read , because there are two documents that uh were layered over each other . user interface: mm-hmm . marketing: project manager: so marketing: okay . project manager: but uh , from now on i wo n't use my pen anymore , so will be p just ordinary keyboard . user interface: industrial designer: marketing: user interface: uh , may be better , yeah . marketing: keyboard work . yeah . project manager: i think it will will be more uh easy for you to read the minutes . user interface: yeah . marketing: alright . industrial designer: okay , when we talk about uh components design , um it 's really about the material and the and uh uh really the stuff we build uh the remote controls of . um , a remote control consist of uh components and the components of a remote control consist of uh properties and material . we have to choose th uh these uh wisely and it could affect uh uh a kind of grow of in uh in buying uh the remote controls . um , the components of a remote control are of course uh the case . uh the properties of the case , um it has to be solid uh in hard material like uh hard plastic uh with soft rubber for uh falling and and uh uh yeah , it feels uh good in your hand . marketing: industrial designer: mm the buttons has to be uh solid too , and the material is soft rubber . uh i 've got a uh email from the possibilities of real reaction . um uh they 're telling me that um when we build uh a remote control of um of plastic or rubber , the uh buttons have to be uh rubber too . mm it 's okay . yeah . i when we use a rubbled a doubled curved case , we must use a rubber push-buttons to uh the the rubber double-curved case is a is a t uh three-dimensional uh curve in the in the design , which is uh necessary when we want to be trendy . uh um user interface: oh . industrial designer: the energy source , uh i 've got a lot of possibilities for that too . um , uh the basic battery , which i thi prefer because of its uh its non uh non-depending of of of uh um uh here you have to have a hand uh yeah , kinetic uh energy . also in uh this one , like in the watches , but a remote control can lie on a table for a day , and then you push uh a button and so you do n't have to uh walk with it all the all the time . mm , solar cells are also uh a bit weird for uh remote controls . marketing: project manager: industrial designer: um uh also the case material , uh i think that plastic is the is the best with rubber , because uh wood or titanium would also be a bit weird . user interface: oh titanium is probably trendy , i think . . marketing: that 's true , i guess . yeah . user interface: well , maybe a little bit expensive . marketing: user interface: i do n't know . industrial designer: uh , they do n't tell anything about the cost of uh titanium . marketing: huh . industrial designer: um the chip uh the chip set uh and the board is uh all off the shelf . also , the speaker in the remote control , when we want to retrieve it . um , the base station is also off the shelf , all the materials and the components are uh just available in uh in our uh factory . mm , i 've told about uh the three first points . mm , the simple electronical chip uh is is available uh with the led transmitter uh transmitter . uh , it 's all uh off the shelf and even the speaker and the wireless retriever are all uh available in our company . um , another possibility . i uh yeah , i looked up on was uh the lcd displays . could be uh something special to our uh remote control , and it 's possible , but it only cost a bit more , but maybe it can be uh within the limits of twenty five euros . project manager: twelve and a half . actually industrial designer: ah yeah . marketing: yeah . user interface: yeah , production cost . industrial designer: i th i got an email with uh some examples and it these were were the most trendiest one . user interface: industrial designer: you see uh a covers , which can be project manager: what are those , t tooth uh brushes , or so user interface: industrial designer: um , i do n't know . um marketing: project manager: but it 's actually kind of uh user interface: i project manager: well , it resembles the design i had in mind for this proj industrial designer: yes . project manager: you know the the cartoonish alessi kind of design . marketing: yep . industrial designer: yes , maybe we can uh bri uh bring a couple of uh couple of types of uh project manager: and we can we can steal their ideas . marketing: industrial designer: maybe a kind of uh whole uh um a whole set of uh different uh remote controls . project manager: huh . industrial designer: maybe we can bring a whole line uh with uh with a huge variety of uh project manager: well , it 's a possibility , too . industrial designer: uh house uh stuff . user interface: different colours also . industrial designer: like uh maybe radios and uh television also uh in this in this in the same style , but project manager: uh-uh . marketing: yeah , that 'll be for the future , i guess . project manager: okay . user interface: yeah . project manager: next time we 're here . industrial designer: yes , because we have to uh we have to we have to bring the logo and all the stuff uh back into it . marketing: yeah . project manager: oh , okay . marketing: yeah . definitely . project manager: okay . user interface: okay . industrial designer: thank you . marketing: alright . user interface: uh marketing: yeah . that 's okay . user interface: ah . marketing: user interface: well , i shall go to the next slide . um marketing: user interface: um , i still do n't have any information about user requirements . marketing: user interface: i was thinking about just uh the basic functions and i got uh project manager: oh , we decided upon that in the last meeting . did n't we ? user interface: yeah , but but then wh i do n't know when there are new user requirements . project manager: oh , okay . well , tha i did n't receive any new requirements or somethi user interface: i ha i ha i have the i have project manager: just user interface: nothing . project manager: no , but we decided to use only b basic functions only . user interface: well , i have here a couple of basic functions i could think of . project manager: okay . user interface: i dunno if they 're maybe a little bit more , but project manager: well we maybe we can think of that later . w just user interface: yeah . project manager: these are the ones you already summed up in the user interface: yeah , i i uh well , i pointed them out here , just to make it a little bit easier . project manager: okay . user interface: um another function uh is of course we already discuss it on the side . um , i do n't know what costs of it . uh , i 've no idea about it . uh , i was also looking for what you said , for i got an email uh uh about uh lcd in in in front of the remote control . i do n't know if that 's a good idea , or maybe it 's a little bit too much for twelve and a half . production . project manager: yeah . user interface: if we got already uh something like a base . industrial designer: uh-huh . project manager: that might get redundant also maybe . i do n't know what kind of information it would user interface: yeah , i do n't know . i d i uh ju i was just thinking about it . then i got a pop-ups to go to the meeting . but marketing: mm yeah . project manager: yeah . yeah , it 's okay . industrial designer: maybe we can bring t uh uh teletext to the t to the remote control . user interface: the remote control . marketing: then you project manager: user interface: a little uh too a little bit marketing: and then you 've got a flag s very big r_c_ . yeah . project manager: okay . that 's not it was not a good idea . user interface: a little bit too big , i think . exactly . industrial designer: marketing: project manager: okay . user interface: um , yeah . well , the functions are are not more to discuss , i think . project manager: no . no . user interface: it 's it 's just the base things we already discussed that the no v_c_r_ or that kind of marketing: no . user interface: uh , so that 's very easy . um project manager: but you do mention the next and previous uh button . user interface: mm-hmm . project manager: user interface: well , that 's next channel . i mean next channel . marketing: next channel , previous channel . project manager: oh , okay , o okay okay . user interface: uh um oh , i i got an email with with an uh a remote control with a base . project manager: huh . user interface: so , it 's uh just an idea . and i um uh thinked of the button sizes and i 'm not sure uh if they have to be big or uh just small industrial designer: but you 're the expert . marketing: i think it depends on the function . user interface: well , i 'm not a e i 'm the expert for user-friendly , but not for trendiness . project manager: mm-hmm . user interface: maybe it marketing: well , if you save uh perhaps uh s tiny buttons are n't user-friendly , then we would n't im implement that of course . project manager: user interface: well uh industrial designer: marketing: user interface: okay , that 's your point . um , yeah . yeah , okay . marketing: user interface: yeah , i 've nothing to s industrial designer: project manager: well , w when we only use basic functions , we have the possibility to make the buttons larger . marketing: oh , that 's right . user interface: uh , with a little bit larger , yeah . marketing: yeah . user interface: i thought so , but maybe with the project manager: well , i think we already agreed upon the fact that the the the skip buttons and the cha and the volume buttons , th th those two have yeah , they have to be large . user interface: yeah , that groups . project manager: uh , i mean th th the the two two basic buttons , you know , the to skip channels and to uh user interface: large ? yeah . marketing: yep . project manager: i think yeah , i do n't know why , but i think that is that 's t trendy too , user interface: most the most used uh buttons . marketing: those are probably the the th project manager: because that 's the mo it it you know , it 's uh acc acc um accentu uh , how do you say it ? it puts an extra accent on the the on the simplicity of our remotes to j to make these two most basic functions extra big , like t marketing: yes . user interface: true . yeah . marketing: those are probably the b four most most used buttons on the th in the remote control . project manager: yeah . and you want to acc accentuate that , you know . industrial designer: you did the research . user interface: yeah . industrial designer: it 's from your research . marketing: sorry ? yeah , sure . project manager: so user interface: okay . uh , that was all y industrial designer: user interface: uh personal preference i did n't have . project manager: okay . user interface: i did n't had any time left . project manager: no uh , that 's coo it 's cool . industrial designer: marketing: you do n't care . no , sorry . project manager: industrial designer: marketing: yeah . user interface: marketing: oh . go away . user interface: it 's there . marketing: come on . user interface: yeah , click on it . marketing: . user interface: couple time . marketing: oh , great . well , i 've done some research again about trends on the internet . um i 've done some investigation , and uh well i uh got some information from fashion watchers from paris and uh milan . some uh some findings the most important thing is fancy look and feel of the remote control . uh , well , we were going to imply that , so that 's nice . the second important thing is uh innovative technology in the r_c_ . uh , our market really likes really likes that . and uh the third point there in this uh order if of importance , the third point , is a high ease of use . and uh , well , for the idea , i 've put some trends uh for the market of elderly people . industrial designer: marketing: dark colours , simple recognisable shapes . so we probably wo n't do that . user interface: marketing: the younger market likes uh well , the themes of of this year are uh surprisingly fruits and vegetables and spongy material . industrial designer: user interface: industrial designer: marketing: i found this image , which is uh well , it symbolises the idea of fruits and vegetables . i do n't see the spongy part in it . but with a little bit of fancy project manager: well maybe c then we have to do something with sponge bob then . user interface: industrial designer: marketing: exactly . i got some ideas user interface: marketing: uh well , yeah , pictures is n't really good word , but um industrial designer: marketing: some symbols of fruits or vegetables maybe . uh , catchy colours . industrial designer: marketing: fruit is uh yellow , green , red , whatever . user interface: marketing: so , remote controls in in catchy colours . project manager: it does n't stroke with the with the dark colours . marketing: uh , no , we do n't want dark colours . project manager: not the dark colours ? okay . marketing: no , i just put them there to uh , yeah , uh for general idea . project manager: okay . marketing: and uh , the docking st industrial designer: marketing: uh i think the spongy material is is very irritating for the uh remote control itself . but to industrial designer: marketing: yeah , the to implement some spongy thing , maybe we can do it in the in the docking station . at the bottom of the docking station or whatever . and uh , we could bring one line with a dark colour uh to um uh p uh yeah industrial designer: marketing: uh uh v how do you say ? project manager: for diversity or something . uh marketing: yeah , also a bit for elderly people who are a little bit crazy and want maybe want a little younger design but still the dark colour . user interface: well , how uh industrial designer: marketing: i mean it it it reaches a different market uh , but it it it does n't cost really much effort to b to uh bring uh like a black r_c_ on the market or whatever . yes . user interface: but how do we use uh fruits and vegetables in christ 's sake with remote control ? industrial designer: project manager: no , but i i i think that uh our design already resembles so a piece of fruit . marketing: yeah , there 's there 's always a user interface: uh , make it a banana ? project manager: it 's like a pear or something . user interface: marketing: well there there 's always empty space of course on a remote control . i mean i think this part of the r_c_ uh well the upper the upper part or whatever is uh is not not used with buttons , i guess . project manager: no , i do n't think you have to do it like industrial designer: user interface: marketing: so you you can put some fruity things project manager: yeah , but it that does n't have to remind you , you know , like explicitly of s our f of a of a specific piece of fruit , but just , you know , like the the the the round curves . industrial designer: marketing: no , of course not . project manager: and so y i i think this y it already sem resembles uh something like a pear to me or something . marketing: especially i user interface: yeah , but th yeah , but that marketing: yeah , yeah . yeah , exactly . industrial designer: project manager: yeah . user interface: yeah , but that 's marketing: if we make it little bit greenish . project manager: you do get the idea , eh ? the fruity kind of round user interface: yeah uh uh project manager: 'kay . marketing: a and we could use one of these for the uh w what is it ? project manager: yeah , uh yeah , i do n't know . industrial designer: grapes . marketing: uh industrial designer: project manager: uh , this is a b yeah . marketing: is n't wha whatever . user interface: but d do n't we need a creative artist or something like that to m make it to feel like a a a a vegetable or fruit ? industrial designer: project manager: yeah , yeah . of course we have uh marketing: yeah , sure . project manager: we have a very big uh the s marketing: yeah . well , w we can uh w we can we can produce multiple uh multiple things . industrial designer: for a big team of artists . project manager: of d design team , yeah . user interface: marketing: this is then the uh pear . i do n't know the english word , so forget it . project manager: yeah , but it 's pear , i guess . marketing: and um , maybe , yeah , a b a banana is uh is n not easy for a remote control , but m yeah . industrial designer: but uh but i think we do n't have to make project manager: no . industrial designer: we ca n't make all uh ten designs . we have to make one design i th i i think . project manager: no , but i think it 's it 's already what we were were up to . marketing: mayb maybe two or three . user interface: yeah . project manager: uh , it 's it does n't have to resemble uh what i already said , a specific piece of fruit , but just , you know , like a fruity thing going on . user interface: marketing: yeah . no sure , but but project manager: and it 's it looks fruity to me . user interface: marketing: b but that 's great , and and and what i was project manager: and uh , but i do like the marketing: what what i was saying , the catchy colours project manager: yeah , i do like uh the f uh to the idea of making a a y uh , a catchy colour design and a d because i do i think a dark colour would be nice too . industrial designer: but pictures of fruit , vegetables vegetables marketing: yeah . project manager: maybe it 's too much , you know . user interface: but , we we have to um there have to be the the the the firm colours , our own uh colours has to be in it . marketing: yeah , uh not really . pictures was a was a bad word , but project manager: okay , but what are the this is yellow . marketing: well we c yeah . user interface: yellow , a real reaction . industrial designer: yes , you can put a logo on top of it . project manager: but i do n't think our our company colours are this fashionable . marketing: yeah , sure . user interface: uh , yeah . marketing: maybe we can if if we got our docking station over here . user interface: we uh f industrial designer: yes , it 's really fruity . marketing: i ca n't draw with this thing , but i 'll try . user interface: a yellow do marketing: if this is our docking station , we can make our logo over here . user interface: uh , yeah . marketing: it does n't work . and then user interface: yeah , and the button then . industrial designer: with a strawberry on top . project manager: yeah , on uh n uh on the bottom of the remote you can do marketing: well , the button button over here or whatever , user interface: okay , yeah . marketing: i do n't know . on the front , of course , because else you ca n't find it . user interface: okay . marketing: well , that were my ideas a little bit . project manager: okay . marketing: i 'll close 'em down . um , go away . project manager: okay , you can you open the conceptual design presentation ? marketing: conceptual design , yes . project manager: see what was on the agenda . user interface: lazy . marketing: the agenda . project manager: this is his own remote . because um , maybe we can start with the technical uh functions , user interface: yeah . project manager: but i do n't think it 's there uh , yeah um , do we want to um use an lcd display , for example ? marketing: well , it 's nice , of course . but i do n't i do n't know what to display on it . industrial designer: only if we project manager: me neither . industrial designer: maybe maybe we can make a tv guide on it , for the channel you 're on . marketing: i mean project manager: yeah , but it 's so marketing: yeah , but it should be li like this big , and i do n't think industrial designer: no , no , only the tv channel with the with uh with uh four programmes . project manager: i do n't think we should do it . industrial designer: you can uh zap through them with the page up page down button . marketing: yes sure , but it it has to to show an entire title of a programme or at least a q a quite quite large part of it and then you get a very large lcd screen , because industrial designer: yes , it can on your no , on your mobile phone you can y you can read text also . so why not on your remote ? project manager: yeah , but no . i do i think it 's a bit redundant , actually . marketing: yeah , i do n't know . project manager: and it 's also not i do n't th even think it it looks s like sexy or something , user interface: well well what would you display on it then ? project manager: it 's industrial designer: uh , programme uh information or or or or g or a guide marketing: programme information . user interface: but is it is n't that a already on tv , a lot of new tvs ? marketing: but industrial designer: on t on teletext , yes . also on the internet . marketing: well a lot a lot of tvs indeed show uh when you uh zap to a industrial designer: but project manager: but you 're already watching the tv , you 're not gon na watch your remote control . user interface: yeah . industrial designer: yes , but you also want to know what 's next . marketing: but then we also uh w need to bring out a line of tvs which we were planning to , user interface: yeah , project manager: user interface: and we also have to yeah . marketing: but whatever . because the tv has to send information back to the r_c_ , and i do n't know if that 's possible . industrial designer: yes , that 's uh really possible . project manager: marketing: yes , yes , o of course it 's possible , user interface: marketing: but you got ta uh implement it in the tvs , and i do n't think everyone 's gon na buy a real reaction tv within a month after the release of our uh remote control . industrial designer: project manager: i really understand you want to make your job more exciting by putting an lcd in it , user interface: and i also industrial designer: user interface: marketing: project manager: but i i really do n't think it 's a good n goo because it also does n't stroke with we wanted uh c when we talk about the materials , uh it 's a good idea to use these plastic materials with soft rubber stuff on it . it was our idea , you know , to give it a more sturdy look and that you ca like you can throw with it . marketing: yeah . project manager: but i do n't think a lcd display fits in that image . you know , it 's like more vulnerable , and it adds nothing really , you know . marketing: that 's true , that 's true , it breaks f yeah , it it it 's not very solid , it 's uh frag fragile . project manager: yeah , yeah . you could make it , but it 's just it it does n't i do n't think it it 's coherent with the design we 're after . marketing: no . no . i do n't think so ei either . project manager: but that 's my opinion . well , you you y okay , we can vote for it . you want the lcd display . i do n't want to and he does n't , so it 's up to him . industrial designer: no . user interface: industrial designer: project manager: if we wan na user interface: yeah , i dunno . marketing: . ah . industrial designer: project manager: and i 've read somewhere that i 've got some kind of veto veto uh rights . user interface: . oh , okay . industrial designer: marketing: bastard . project manager: so i can also say user interface: we can you away . project manager: but did we skip the yeah , you could do marketing: project manager: m but what what i so what i but do you think we should user interface: yeah , i do n't know . uh , uh i i if it 's it 's a simple p project manager: we 're not even sure what what information we want to display on it . so user interface: no , that that 's right , industrial designer: no uh um user interface: and uh i also have to think about new functions , maybe buttons or something like that to control it . kind of lcd or something or industrial designer: y yes , you can use uh buttons uh uh w that are already uh on the remote control for double functions . marketing: yeah , i guess . user interface: but how does it display then ? w when i go to the second channel , what what does it show me ? industrial designer: uh , then you push a button . the title and the information about the programme . user interface: about that programme ? industrial designer: but but uh yeah , what he said was right , about the televisions , they have to be uh customised to the project manager: nah , that 's not gon na work . industrial designer: but maybe in future it will be a giant hit , and when you are the first marketing: no . project manager: yeah . oh , well uh i 've seen it done before . industrial designer: you have the biggest uh project manager: do you know th like the the bigger rem uh universal remotes , they have d lcd displays , user interface: yeah . project manager: but then it 's very functional to indicate which what uh uh device you are controlling . so it 's that that 's what i 've seen . industrial designer: yes , you can put uh a little lcd display on it with uh with lots of information . marketing: yeah , that 's true , if you uh yeah . project manager: but it just it j it does n't does n't match with the our whole basic concept . industrial designer: but uh i have n't thought about it . but whe but when you put a a a transparent uh plastic uh uh screen on top of it , it i it is n't vulnerable . project manager: well yeah , yeah , okay . that 's maybe not the most important , industrial designer: you can throw with it and project manager: but it 's just user interface: is it fashion ? project manager: i do n't think so . industrial designer: when when you put uh maybe a colour lcd t uh screen on it , it 's very special and very trendy to have uh a remote control from user interface: i do n't know . that 's not up to you . that 's up to market if i if it 's trendy . project manager: yeah , well do you ha do you have to you have n't looked after the trendiness of lcd displays , have you ? marketing: no . industrial designer: user interface: because our our motto is we put fashion marketing: well , i think it 's uh i think it 's pretty trendy , to be honest , uh but um i do n't know if if if well , i 'm coming back to the costs again , but i think uh we got ta build a b pretty cheap design to to stay within our limits . and i think uh especially colour lcd , which is indeed pretty trendy . but i do n't think uh , i think it will be too expensive . industrial designer: but uh i 've got a the email with uh with the possibilities . and lcd was a possibility for the remote control . project manager: user interface: project manager: yeah yeah yeah . industrial designer: so why do n't we use it . project manager: yeah , but we 're gon na if it marketing: uh , did it say a price also uh for for uh monogramme uh lcd or uh coloured lcd ? user interface: yeah , if you want to be trendy you have to be coloured . coloured marketing: yeah really , user interface: if you have black and white or something , or grey , that 's marketing: if y if you c i project manager: then uh then you better do n't yeah , d marketing: i in in two thousand and four you ca n't uh put something on the market which is a monogramme . project manager: user interface: marketing: really . industrial designer: no , but it does n't sa say anything about a colour or but , mm , i alf i also got a possibility to put uh a scroll button on it . but project manager: uh uh i really do n't feel the whole idea of an lcd display . industrial designer: i did n't think that marketing: project manager: i 'm sorry . it ca n't co you can not convince me . i do n't know how well how to with you guys , but i do n't really feel it . we already we 're uh user interface: it 's too much uh maybe uh with with the lcd and the docking station and project manager: yeah , we already have the the th th th base station gadgets , marketing: yeah . project manager: and want and it uh uh , do it has to be a simple design , which sturdy , which soft industrial designer: yes , but o on the marketing: w we 've we 've got ta find a balance , of course . user interface: with one thing special . marketing: and i think user interface: not a whole package of specialty . project manager: i do n't think i j uh , and really , i do n't see how the the lcd display is gon na add anything , you know , on a design level . uh , i think it 's slicker to have no l_ ceds . industrial designer: no , when y project manager: y we want to it 's simplicity , w you have two big buttons and you can do whatever you want with these two buttons , so you do n't need an lcd . industrial designer: but it look yes , but that remote controls are already on the market . the simple project manager: it does n't fit in our philosophy uh behind the whole remote . industrial designer: yes , but but when you want to have something special project manager: yeah , but we already have the docking station , which is industrial designer: yes , but you had a picture of it from another company . user interface: and uh the marketing: we have a pear . project manager: it has to be developed , user interface: yeah . industrial designer: project manager: but no , but it that 's industrial designer: project manager: that 's our that 's our killer feature . user interface: it 's just an it 's just an idea . marketing: project manager: that 's our what makes it special . user interface: it 's a it 's industrial designer: yes , it was already made . tha the remote control on the docking station . project manager: yeah , we 're gon na develop our own r n docking station . user interface: true . marketing: is that so ? was it it was n't just a prototype ? user interface: well uh i uh industrial designer: yes , he have a picture of it . project manager: user interface: yeah , i dunno . industrial designer: marketing: exactly , i 've never seen it in a store . project manager: uh , but re we really have to cut this off , user interface: project manager: i re i know you i i i i i get the idea you really like it , you know , the the lcd thing , but i i think it 's it 's not a good idea , and we have already mentioned all the arguments . i do n't uh , do you guys agre how do you guys think ? i d user interface: no , it 's too much . marketing: i think it 's a little too much , yeah . user interface: it 's overdone . project manager: okay , we s skip the lcd display . user interface: industrial designer: okay . marketing: okay . project manager: i 'm sorry , maybe you can do something if we are at your own place , or make it make it make it happen in your basement or something . user interface: democratically . industrial designer: marketing: no . user interface: industrial designer: mayb marketing: . project manager: but industrial designer: i will rule the world with it . project manager: probably so . marketing: yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah . project manager: okay . but for the technical part . the m material , i think uh it was a good idea to use the plastic and uh the rubber . uh industrial designer: yes , maybe a bit of a cushion is project manager: yeah yeah yeah , p exactly . this is what it w yeah , but it it was already what we 're uh we 're after , you know , to give it uh , you know , the soft touch in your hands marketing: yeah , for the spongy uh feel . yeah . industrial designer: yes . user interface: with a spongy bob feel . project manager: and also to , know , like user interface: yeah . project manager: yeah , that is y the b airbag kind of thing . industrial designer: like a b yes . project manager: you can st throw it at your little brother 's head . user interface: yeah , you just can drop it . yeah . marketing: yeah , airbag . if you drop it if you drop it the airbag comes out , yeah . project manager: yeah . no no no , not that comfy . user interface: yeah . industrial designer: maybe it marketing: industrial designer: but then we have to look that it uh w uh will not um be too childish to see . project manager: yeah yeah . yeah . okay , that 's a that 's a good point . and that 's why i like the dark t col dark colour bit , you know , because it may be the design uh , it 's uh maybe it is a bit of the marketing: yeah . user interface: but not black i think . project manager: it 's a bit nineties maybe , what we 're what we 're up to rat fun to this point . marketing: no . user interface: well if if it 's fruit and vegetables , it have to be colourful . project manager: yeah , that 's that 's true , but but it has to be a little big solid . marketing: yeah , b yeah , that 's what w i i was pointing at . user interface: but can we ge uh uh project manager: it must n't be too , n you know , th too overwhelming , then when you put it on your just user interface: can we combine it or something ? uh with uh yellow and black ? project manager: yeah . yeah , maybe so . user interface: make it a bee ? a bee . marketing: what ? oh , a bee . oh . project manager: no , uh i do n't like the yellow and black combination . but it is our company colours . apparently . user interface: yeah , it 's our yeah . we we have to use yellow . industrial designer: yes , real real good colours . project manager: marketing: yeah . hmm . industrial designer: hmm . project manager: i do n't like yellow , and uh maybe i do n't know . marketing: well , we can as as i industrial designer: but that 's not really fruity . marketing: draw really nicely over there . we can put the logo on our uh on our base station . uh , yeah . and maybe very very tiny on the remote control itself . project manager: but marketing: but , i project manager: okay , but what uh , what are other tef technical things we have to discuss ? user interface: project manager: industrial designer: uh fronts of the we can have uh different uh uh fronts of the project manager: should we do that ? industrial designer: telephone . project manager: i do n't think you we should do that . maybe just bring it out in different colours , user interface: different fronts . project manager: but not af that you can switch fronts afterwards , that 's also too much . marketing: yeah . i guess that 's that 's enough . project manager: people do n't wan na spend more money on their remote control , i guess . marketing: that 's way too nokia . user interface: yeah . uh , you can you can l uh let choose the customer which colour he wants , yeah . industrial designer: are these designs ? project manager: yeah , yeah . marketing: yeah , definitely . just bring more designs on the market . user interface: yeah , three three or four uh four uh colours , or something like that . project manager: but uh , without gon uh marketing: why not , yeah . project manager: okay . so , are we through the technical part then ? industrial designer: yes . project manager: okay . so we uh agreed upon uh n uh well , not u unanimously or how you call it , but yeah . user interface: well , yeah , industrial designer: it this a real uh young young and dynamic uh uh styles . user interface: the three to one . that 's project manager: the materials you uh mentioned in your your personal preferences were all were quite okay . industrial designer: yes . project manager: o o only only the last point your user interface: and tita uh titanium , is uh is is it a no ? industrial designer: yes , project manager: no titanium 's not not out of question , i guess . user interface: is it 's just like that , th this titanium . industrial designer: but also w yes , b bu but when we use s soft project manager: but is it possible to use both the the plastic and so uh soft things and t p titanium , as well ? industrial designer: mm marketing: sure . project manager: makes it in a homogeneous uh design . industrial designer: mm . user interface: no , not all , not all of them . industrial designer: but it it then it uh you ca n't throw it it . it will uh make a huge noise or break other stuff project manager: it will it will break other stuff w when it 's plastic , as well . industrial designer: when you throw with uh titanium with your remote control . user interface: industrial designer: no uh , marketing: project manager: yeah . industrial designer: titanium is a bit uh it 's a bit harder . marketing: yeah , that 's true . project manager: no , but uh uh , you should ma yeah . industrial designer: but also on the colours , the young project manager: okay , think of the possibilities and make it in completely titanium . well would it be more trendy ? more chic ? marketing: yeah , i think it i think it does . user interface: uh , i think titanium nowadays is way more often used than plastic . industrial designer: yes , but a titanium remote control , when you 're uh watching tv uh or your hands are a little bit sweaty , and the user interface: in trendy things . marketing: yeah , o on the other hand , if you want to make fruit fruity stuff with uh user interface: yeah . it 's cold in the winter . project manager: yeah , but i i really like the idea of the the the plastic and the big kind of thing . industrial designer: yes . project manager: but the question is i then it 's , you know , is is it fits in our s philosophy to make it uh sturdy and simple and uh , know , like uh user interface: yeah . marketing: yeah , that 's true , that 's true . industrial designer: sports and gaming . define project manager: when you make it titanium , it becomes more like some kind of gadget you actually do n't need . and when it 's big and plastic , it 's like some fun stuff you can always have around . it 's always fun to have something big and plastic around . user interface: you have that uh m_p_ three player of nike , i saw . marketing: yes . yeah . user interface: is n't that titanium with a little bit of rubber ? industrial designer: yes , it 's w but it is uh plastic . user interface: is n't it is plastic ? well , it 's titanium looking . industrial designer: yes , w we can do that on the on the marketing: what ? user interface: yeah , he is . here he is . uh , the i do n't know if you know the m_p_ three player of nike . 'kay , uh that that 's very uh with rubber , so it 's very marketing: oh , yeah . okay , yeah . project manager: yeah , that 's beautiful . marketing: yeah , i see . industrial designer: we can make this as a style too . marketing: yeah , but but but user interface: rough . industrial designer: uh , this is uh just a project manager: oh , maybe th maybe this is an marketing: yeah , i th i think that 's difficult , because uh that 's different material , and then you got ta have like uh uh uh two material lines of of of industrial designer: no , we c we can make it from the same kind of plastic . marketing: yeah , if it 's just a colour uh which you uh which you change then , i guess it 's it 's nice to have one of these . project manager: no , i do like the idea of maybe a t titanium kind type of body w and then with s plastic colouration around it . industrial designer: uh marketing: uh project manager: you know , like the the soft stuff , marketing: yeah . project manager: but i do n't know if it 's possible . industrial designer: i do n't have the information . uh , i i did n't got it project manager: but you ca n't make the plastic give uh the ti titanium look . user interface: true . industrial designer: yes . project manager: but make it just like shiny . marketing: mm-hmm . user interface: yeah yeah , true . project manager: maybe we should uh shou industrial designer: like the m_p_ three player . user interface: yeah , maybe that 's good idea , yeah . but if you want to la uh yeah , last longer than two weeks or something like that , you can maybe marketing: yeah . project manager: and uh and marketing: project manager: maybe we sh should we t i do n't know if we should talk about uh , how how much time have we got left ? industrial designer: uh , in a lot of other uh user interface: i do n't know . project manager: forty minutes . user interface: what time does industrial designer: in a lot of other product uh categories like uh even in b in bags industry . uh , they began with uh t typical uh leather bags , but then they became stylish , with all all si all sort of colours , and w kind of fon of uh of fronts , like we can use on the telephone and it marketing: yeah . project manager: okay . industrial designer: like eastpack uh began a revolution with it with all this uh kind of bags and and colours and and project manager: you putting in different colours . industrial designer: yes , and and styles . project manager: okay . industrial designer: they have uh also uh a kind of uh um uh roses on it , a and uh marketing: uh yeah , yeah . project manager: okay . yeah , but w yeah . user interface: project manager: well , it is . it 's a possibility . but , let 's think about the bas industrial designer: then we can always uh use the same design for a greater resemblance , but with new uh with new colours , new marketing: yes . new prints on it . yep . project manager: mm-hmm , mm-hmm . industrial designer: yes . project manager: but wha th our basic idea y i mean , you gon na we 're probably gon na have like two type of materials , like the d d b the plastic uh enclosure and then the the pads that surround it . and and pro and lights . we have to incorporate the lights too . but , uh do w gon na gon na are we going to give it a two-tone colour look , like the the plastic mould is in in one colour and the s the cushion pads around it are in another colour ? is that the idea ? is that a good idea ? marketing: how do you mean ? th th the uh base in a in another project manager: how many colours are we how many colours are we gon na we 're uh uh f uh f user interface: the rubber . project manager: only five minutes left , by the way . how many colours are we gon na give it ? marketing: yes . project manager: like two-tone colour ? t industrial designer: there there are three uh components three components type . user interface: yeah . uh no , not too much i think . industrial designer: you have the buttons , the the case uh itself , and the rubber and th marketing: how the buttons yeah . project manager: i think maybe the case itself should be in one colour and then the rubber of the buttons , and the cushions as well should be in another colour . industrial designer: yes . user interface: or you just make uh one colour , uh maybe with a a z a kind of like a big wave or something like uh marketing: yeah . project manager: okay , but not more than user interface: in in another colour . project manager: well , yeah , it 's user interface: not more than two colours i think . project manager: no . user interface: it 's a g a little bit too flashy . marketing: no , definitely not . project manager: maybe we should talk about it on a l in a later meeting . industrial designer: yeah , or or when you use the buttons as black , it you can use two colours as well uh marketing: yes , definitely . project manager: okay . but we have to uh think of some other uh important things . industrial designer: project manager: uh oh yeah , the the functionalities of the the buttons . user interface: the funct yeah , i was i was thinking about th the st do we still want a joystick idea . project manager: no . marketing: no , i think that 's too vulnerable . project manager: i think this is okay , user interface: yeah . project manager: the so we have the basic . then we have the numbers . we have the power button . we have we have a teletext button . user interface: the volume , teletext and project manager: and maybe want to access a a menu or something . most tvs have a menu . marketing: yeah , but that 's that 's i was thinking that 's got ta be on the television . user interface: project manager: yeah , but i think you ha i really need a menu button . user interface: yeah yeah yeah yeah , b project manager: that 's just i the only button only user interface: yeah , but wha what kind of menu ? project manager: you know , i user interface: is uh is n't that different from every television ? project manager: no , i think most tvs have an uh a menu nowadays to access the uh uh screen settings . and so marketing: mm . yeah , if it 's c if yeah , i think it 's okay to to add a menu button for uh user interface: project manager: but that that covers all the all the other settings . it covers everything then . marketing: and if the tv does n't have a menu , then industrial designer: but then you have to put uh up and down and uh left and right marketing: yeah . project manager: no , you can use the marketing: yeah , you can put that on the two eight four and six or whatever . project manager: and you al can also use the normal skip buttons for that . industrial designer: okay . project manager: th in that way we have like only the numbers , the power button , skip and volume , and then uh uh ten uh rem marketing: mm , yeah . a mute and a teletext and a menu . project manager: uh yeah , mute . a teletext and a menu , and then then i that 's it . user interface: mute . project manager: it 's all we need . marketing: that 's all . user interface: yeah . marketing: hmm . project manager: okay , uh another stuf some stuff about the the the design of the docking station . marketing: great . yeah . user interface: okay , that 's not mu not much functions . so project manager: something important about a s uh , no , uh which sh uh should remind us of the remote itself , i guess . marketing: yeah , definitely . project manager: uh , in one colour . marketing: are we gon na do something with the uh spongy thing there ? project manager: just use i think the spongy thing already um comes forward in the in the in the cushions , pads and things on the s uh side . industrial designer: uh marketing: yeah , that 's true , that 's true . project manager: and we will make it spongy and and uh and uh well , the fruity thing is just the shape should be fru i did i think this is kind of fruity , you know . just round shapes with uh user interface: marketing: yeah , it 's kinda fruity , and with th with catchy colours uh uh w project manager: yeah , but we 're gon na have to we really have to think i think colours is very important , because it has to be flashy , but and but it d it does n't have to be annoying , that when you uh , know , some things is just over the top , and when you have it on your table for more than two weeks , you it just gets annoying , because it 's so big and flashy . marketing: yeah , definitely . project manager: uh , it has to be some level of subtlety , but we have to still have to think of how we manage to uh to get to that . marketing: yeah . project manager: okay . guess we 're through then . marketing: okay . user interface: okay . marketing: i guess so . project manager: but we i think also we just so we have to do something with colour but also , i i think we have to keep the dark colour thing in mind . i think that 's uh adds to the user interface: yeah . marketing: yes . project manager: too much colour maybe m um user interface: too much colour , i it uh when you got it in a living room , it 's too much maybe project manager: but our des design experts will uh work that out . marketing: yea yeah . user interface: . it has to be project manager: okay , well i think the meeting will be over within a minute . user interface: yeah . marketing: yep . project manager: so we will wrap up . marketing: something like that . project manager: or is there anything we 'd like to discuss ? that 's right . marketing: i guess not . project manager: okay . marketing: do you , guys ? user interface: no . marketing: no ? project manager: okay . well , you will read the minutes uh in the you can find them in the user interface: oh , okay , yeah . marketing: in the shared folder . project manager: pro probably . yeah uh no , for su for sure because i 'm will now type them out . industrial designer: what are we going to do now ? project manager: uh , y yeah . marketing: you 'll see in you email , i guess . user interface: yeah . project manager: i think uh industrial designer: marketing: yeah , i do n't know . i do n't know . user interface: i hope so . and the other thing is that you do n't have kind of prototype or something like that . you see a kinda prototype you can a little bit more uh industrial designer: i will make one in the next uh twenty minutes . user interface: yeah . marketing: construct one , yeah . project manager: but toilet paper roll and uh user interface: with you laptop ? yeah . marketing: project manager: okay . user interface: oh my god . marketing: alright , shall we get back to work ? project manager: yep . i was waiting for the l last message , but marketing: great . user interface: well you are . we 're not . marketing: yeah . bastard . user interface: industrial designer: back to the pen . project manager: mm yeah . marketing: you lazy industrial designer: </s> [SEP]what was the decision of the functionalities of buttons ?
the group decided to have only the basic function buttons , including numbers button , power button , skip button , volume button , mute button , teletext button , and menu button .