No, I know all that, I'm just saying that that's hardly grimdark then, is it? Say what you will about Cannibal Corpse (personally, I say &quot;ew&quot;), at least when they say they're going too far they fuckin' go there. You can't fucking claim to be &quot;dark&quot; and then recoil like a vampire seeing a cross at the first mention of prejudice. Even Warhams includes that shit, for fuck's sake. <|endoftext|> 