 Alternatively it has been suggested that Josquin spent some of that time in Hungary, based on a mid-16th-century Roman document describing the Hungarian court in those years, and including Josquin as one of the musicians present.In either 1483 or 1484, Josquin is known to have been in the service of the Sforza family in Milan.While in their employ, he made one or more trips to Rome, and possibly also to Paris; while in Milan he made the acquaintance of Franchinus Gaffurius, who was "maestro di cappella" of the cathedral there.