 He also played five games on loan at Scottish club Queen of the South in 1986.In November 1986 he was sent out on loan to Port Vale, who needed cover for an injured Mark Grew, and was signed permanently by manager John Rudge in January 1987 for a £10,000 fee (plus 50% of any future transfer fees).He settled in well at Vale Park, and made 31 Third Division appearances in 1986–87.