 He said at one point that production by machinery was "altogether an evil", but at others times, he was willing to commission work from manufacturers who were able to meet his standards with the aid of machines.Morris said that in a "true society", where neither luxuries nor cheap trash were made, machinery could be improved and used to reduce the hours of labour.Fiona MacCarthy says that "unlike later zealots like Gandhi, William Morris had no practical objections to the use of machinery "per se" so long as the machines produced the quality he needed."