 These groups include the Lohars and Suthars of South India.David Mandelbaum noted that the name had been assumed by the blacksmiths, carpenters, coppersmiths, goldsmiths and stonemasons of South India as a means towards achieving social upliftment, calling themselves "Panchala" and claiming that they are Brahmins who descend from Vishwakarma.They do, however, believe that they are equal among themselves