 In autumn of 2004 he began talking to Magali – this time about forming a band together.Rounding out the rest of the line-up would be Pagan's Mind's Jørn Viggo Lofstad and Steinar Krokmo (coming from Uli's adopted home, Norway), and also Kusch's Masterplan-mate, Axel Mackenrott.After the release of "The Unexpected", Carl Johan Grimmark was added as a second guitarist.