 He makes a concert at Acqui Terme, in 2004, a concert of improvisation and electronic music with masters Alzek Misheff and Rocco Parisi.In 2005 he participates in two concerts in PAC of Milan (Pavilion of Contemporary Art), with Alzek Misheff (piano Disklavier) and Eugen Sarbu (Stradivari violin), playing 4 portable telephones "Vertu".