 His son John, “Long” John as he was known, due to his height of 6 ft.10½in., continued the cider-making, and indeed an advertisement from “The Bury and Norwich Post” of 26 May 1800 states that he had inherited the trade secrets of his father-in-law Joseph Chapman which were “the result of the last ten years practice and experience” and that “The cydermaking business is carried on by the said John Gaymer at Banham aforesaid, by whom all orders will be thankfully received, and readily executed”.Joseph Chapman was describing himself as a “cyder merchant” in 1781.