 Fray, his wife, and another campaign staffer stated that they had heard Clinton's outburst, while both Clintons adamantly denied that she had referenced Fray's heritage (while Oppenheimer wrote that Fray's father was Jewish, in reality Fray was a Southern Baptist whose closest Jewish ancestor was a paternal great-grandmother).Bill Clinton did allow that Hillary might have simply called Fray a "bastard".In media interviews, Fray and his wife acknowledged several factors that tended to undermine his credibility