 TBH Leader Mike Parniak, also known as Archon, developed a secondary community that resembles Virtual Places called Voodoo Chat, which as of 2008 tends to be used by no more than 200 of the old Virtual Places users.Ilan Patao, also known as Dark Sting, a member of VPDS and TBH had several Open Source Virtual Places servers (OSVP) which helped keep the community running, but with no future of a client released to connect to the server without the Excite/Sametime brand, the OSVP project eventually shut down.Several versions of Ilan's work are still on SourceForge.