I just hate cleaning the thing that cleans the toilet

So a regular brush is a no go for me. You have to develop a technique with these to keep them from being more trouble than they are worth. The heavy duty ones help clean really bad rust stains. But they aren't flushable, which kind of defeats the purpose of using this kind of cleaner. I do not like having to transport the used brush from toilet to trash. It totally grosses me out. Unless you have some really stuck on stuff, stick to the flushable paper cleaners.

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