 Another continuing topic generated by Grice’s ideas is the relation between semantics and pragmatics  (see the entry on pragmatics).  The nature of the distinction is controversial, as argued by Bach 1997 and Horn 2006. Korta &amp; Perry 2011 (Ch. 11) points out that there are various theoretical meanings to “proposition” and that the extent to which pragmatic principles are needed to determine the proposition expressed by an utterance depends on which understanding of proposition is in play. Two examples of the ongoing debate are LePore and Stone 2015 which argues that most, or perhaps all, of what Grice thought as pragmatic is in fact governed by linguistic rules, and Recanati 2010 which argues the contrary, that pragmatics plays a larger role than is generally recognized.