 Habermas holds (1999, 68) that “the justification of norms and commands requires that a real discourse be carried out.” The only way to achieve public justification is through free argumentation. Such argumentation convinces citizens to recognize the claims others make on them. For \(A\) to make a legitimate claim on \(B\), \(A\) must submit his claim to \(B\)’s critique. The discursive process forms each individual’s conception of her interests and commitments. Habermas calls this process “will formation.” Personal opinions can change and then produce a rational consensus. Habermas idealizes in this way to define a conception of the reasonable. Citizens take a discursive, moral point of view. Their goal is to reach a rational consensus about the interests of the public. (For details about how idealized discourse proceeds, see Habermas 1999, 65–6.)