 Of course, one of the biggest questions about normativity is whether there are any normative facts at all. Most philosophers – all that we know of – grant that we have normative concepts. So, as we said before, we will confine ourselves to the worldly question here. Yet many doubt that there are any facts of the form [Xing is wrong] or [Y is a virtue]. By far the most prominent concern with the existence of such facts, going back at least to J.L. Mackie, is the concern that they would be intolerably queer (Mackie 1977: 33). Some, admitting such queerness, have tried to undermine the argument from queerness to the conclusion that there are no normative facts, while others have (in various ways) denied that normative facts are queer in the first place. We’ll explore all this below.