  The fact that knowing about your own modesty seems to spoil it suggests what seems, to some at least, to be a troubling tension between epistemic and moral goods. Can there really be something morally good about forming biased beliefs about your own goodness? Many imagine that perfect moral virtue must be compatible with perfect knowledge. An extreme version is Plato’s identification of virtue and knowledge in the Meno, but even less extreme views can find the idea that moral virtues might require epistemic defects to be troubling, or at least interesting.