 Mind-dependence theorists could try to take the edge off these entailments. Taking the case of reasons as an example, they could argue, as Williams (1989 [1995: 39]) suggested, that even though, on Williams’s theory, a cruel husband might have no reason to be nicer to his wife, we can still say that he is “ungrateful, inconsiderate, hard, sexist, nasty, selfish, brutal, and many other disadvantageous things”. Of course, this strategy depends on each of those properties not entailing that someone with that property has a reason to try to avoid it. This is tenuous at best: it seems doubtful at the very least to say that we have no reason to avoid being ungrateful or sexist, etc.