 Plato and Aristotle come apart also with regard to the role of the pleasure we take in listening to music. Plato’s approach is a pragmatic one. The aspects of music he values are all and only those that contribute to its ethical role. Such a principle governs Plato’s observations on musical pleasure. He does not deny that music may be able to induce pleasure. However, this pleasure is only valuable insofar as it attracts listeners to music that is good for their moral education (Laws, 2.668a-b).