 What this case shows is that insights about normative concepts often don’t carry over to normative metaphysics, and vice versa. This will be true about some of the questions we consider here. For example, take the question of the relationship between the normative and the non-normative. The case of the Open Question Argument directly illustrates that what we say about the relationship between normative and non-normative facts may be different from what we say about the relationship between normative and non-normative concepts. Similarly, when we come to discuss whether the normative obtains independently of what anyone thinks or feels – the question of mind-independence – the conceptual/metaphysical distinction makes a big difference. Most contemporary mind-dependence theorists don’t want to say that normative concepts are explained by mental concepts, in the same way that (on their views) normative facts are explained by mental facts.