 Thus, also Proclus plainly and openly agrees with us about the difference of the two philosophers [sc. as regards the status of universals], or rather he has demonstrated it from the words/writings of Aristotle himself. From this one can only wonder about the overshooting amount of shamelessness among those who try to show that Aristotle and Plato did agree also in this point. (Philoponus, De aeternitate mundi 32.8–13 [Rabe], trans. by author)