 In response, QBists insist that quantum states have no ontic hold on the world and that the QBist notion of quantum indeterminism is a far more radical variety than anything proposed in the quantum debate before because it says that nature does what it wants, without a mechanism underneath (Fuchs 2017b, p. 272; 2018, p. 19). The QBist Schack rejects Myrvold’s form of reasoning in the quantum domain as follows (Schack 2018).