 Neo-Carnapians such as Putnam, Eli Hirsch, David Chalmers, Amie Thomasson, and Huw Price are ontological deflationists who embrace conceptual pluralism about ontological matters. Hirsch, however, thinks conceptual pluralism is perfectly consistent with realism [Hirsch, E. 2002]. Matti Eklund understands Hirsch to mean that he considers the world to be an amorphous lump [Eklund, M., 2008] (citing Michael Dummett), a ‘lump’ that alternative and equally feasible conceptual schemes serve to make intelligible. For Sider, in contrast, rejecting an intrinsic structure to the world is to reject  realism.[12] 