 The pre-history of “biodiversity” also highlighted the idea that the value of variety itself should be considered along-side the recognised benefits (and dis-benefits) of individual species (“biospecifics”), and all these benefits/values can enter into trade-offs and synergies that support decision-making. Some current perspectives or framings about biodiversity and its value can be understood as again blurring that distinction between biodiversity and “biospecifics”. One such framing equates “biodiversity” with all of nature. A focus on “biodiversity” as the collection of individual units/elements suggests that “biodiversity” covers so many individual elements that it more or less can be equated with biotic “nature”. An ecological/ecosystem framing of biodiversity expands this further—“biodiversity” may be interpreted as including not only the many individual elements but also all their ecological interactions, and associated processes. These expanded perspectives, focused on elements and their interactions, create a risk that we may miss the opportunity to properly consider both values of nature/ecology and the values associated with biodiversity-as-variety.