 Another way to solve the problem would be to be pluralists about the kinds of mind-dependence that could be relevant. Fine (2012) suggested, in a broader context, that metaphysical grounding is fundamentally distinct from normative grounding. So perhaps when utilitarianism says the moral depends on the mental, it means that it normatively depends on the mental, while the meta-ethical debate about mind-dependence (about the moral) concerns the claim that the moral metaphysically depends on the mental. This is a suggestion that has not been fully explored yet (though it is discussed in Berker (2018), Enoch (2019) and Morton (forthcoming)).