 None of this suggests that we should abandon judgments of causal responsibility altogether when ascribing forward looking responsibility. Indeed, as we suggest shortly, such judgments may become relevant to matters of fairness in ascribing remedial responsibility. But it does suggest that we cannot move directly from causal to remedial responsibility, i.e., ground the latter exclusively in the former. Likewise, it does suggest that we need intermediary considerations. Carol Rovane (Rovane 2014), Tracy Isaacs (Isaacs 2011; Isaacs 2014), Ludger Jansen (Jansen 2014), Derrick Darby and Nyla Branscombe (Darby and Branscombe, 2014) and Marion Smiley (Smiley 2014) all make this clear from their own theoretical perspectives.