 Like Arcesilaus, Carneades (214–129/8 BCE) refrains from writing and philosophizes in a Socratic spirit. Carneades led an embassy of three philosophers from Athens to Rome in 156/5 BCE. Aside from his official role, he is said to have given two speeches, arguing for justice one day and against justice the next. Whether or not this is historically correct (Powell 2013), the traditional take on Carneades’ speeches is not that he aims to overthrow justice. Instead, the upshot is taken to be that he wants to show that the supporters of justice—including Plato and Aristotle—do not have the successful arguments they think they have to show what justice is and what it requires (Lactantius, Epitome 55.8, LS 68M). Like Arcesilaus, Carneades (i) engages with Stoic epistemology. His account of skeptical action includes (ii) a detailed proposal regarding the criterion. As part of his less radical skepticism, Carneades seems (iii) to allow for a certain kind of assent, and perhaps for belief.