 Perhaps the earliest defender of this second form of Color Objectivism was Thomas Reid, the eighteenth century Scottish philosopher. More recent examples are Armstrong 1969; Hilbert 1987; Matthen 1988; Jackson 1996, 1998, 2007; Tye 2000; Byrne &amp; Hilbert 2003; and McLaughlin 2003. Reid thought that the folk did not think as philosophers such as Hume and Descartes and others said that they did. Reid wrote that: