 Not surprisingly, the possibility of group-based ignorance is itself controversial. Anne Schwenkenbecher (2021) articulates several different kinds of group-based ignorance and goes on to argue for collective epistemic obligations. Säde Hormio (2018) explores how group-based ignorance is structured, as well as maintained, within organizations and provides us with a framework for distinguishing between acceptable and unacceptable excuses in the context of group-based blame. While such efforts face the same kinds of challenges faced by all efforts that treat groups as moral agents, they signal the possibility of yet another alternative approach to collective moral responsibility (and a very promising one at that) by treating collective moral responsibility as at least shaped, if not designated by worldly practices such as excuse-giving,