 Even though his proposal would have freed the Epicureans to defend the swerve without the need to reject a fundamental principle of logic, Carneades was strongly critical of the swerve. The position that he put forward as an alternative was supposed to show how the Epicureans could uphold their cause without the swerve (De fato 23; cf. 47-8). It raises interpretive problems that reflect both the intrinsic difficulty of the issues and the imperfect state of our sources. The cause of the Epicureans to which Carneades promises to lend support is the rejection of fate, i.e., the view that every event is the effect of antecedent causes sufficient to bring it about. But the error from which he would save them is the postulation of uncaused motion, which is entailed by the swerve. According to Carneades, there is a way in which it can be truly said that there is motion without cause and a way in which it is false (De fato 24).