 In response specifically to Block (2011), Rosenthal (2011) and Weisberg (2011) stress that the mere seeming of, say, being in pain (provided by the HOT that one is in pain in the absence of first-order pain) is sufficient for phenomenally conscious pain. Consciousness is about mental appearance. It is not clear that this fully addresses Block’s point, which is that one would not expect the mere thoughts that one feels pain to matter to us in all the ways that pain matters. Block develops this point with respect to the awfulness of pain. It would be remarkable (indeed, mysterious) if a higher-order thought should have all of the causal powers of the mental state that the thought is about. And in particular, there is no reason to expect that a HOT that one is in pain should possess the negative valence and high-arousal properties of pain itself. But the latter are surely crucial components of phenomenally conscious pain. If so, then a HOT that one feels pain in the absence of first-order pain will not be sufficient for the conscious feeling of pain. It is also again important not to conflate introspection (conscious HOTs) with mere unconscious HOTs. (See also Shepherd 2013.)