 Contrasting these two cases motivates the following line of thought: It seems like Wilma knows that Barney was at the stonecutters’ conference (= p) in Good but not in Bad. It also seems like the cognitive processes that are internal to Wilma are the same across both cases. Thus, insofar as justification is what turns an unGettiered, true belief into knowledge, and insofar as Wilma’s unGettiered, true belief that p amounts to knowledge in Good but not in Bad, the cognitive processes involved in the acquisition of testimonial justification cannot just be the ones that are internal to Wilma. Thus, Testimonial Reliabilists should not endorse Individualism. See Goldberg (2010a) for this argument.