 While List and Pettit do not provide us with their own notion of group control (leaving the question of group moral blameworthiness still up in the air), they do make two related points of importance. The first is that control in this context does not need to reside in the group or in individuals. Instead, it can reside simultaneously in both places, albeit in different forms: “programming causes” vs. “implementing causes” (List and Pettit, 2011, p. 162).