There still remain two challenges for this view. First, one could still follow Hudson and argue that even if we ordinarily understand counting sentences this way, we do still know how to count by identity. And when we do it seems that there is just one cat, not millions of them. Second, it isn't that clear that we always count by distinctness, in the way López de Sa suggests. If I say there are three ways to get from my house to my office, I don't mean to say that these three are completely distinct. Indeed, they probably all start with going out my door, down my driveway etc, and end by walking up the stairs into my office. So the general claim about how to understand counting sentences seems false.