 Mind-independence theorists could accept this and argue that fundamental moral disagreement is not actual or possible (depending on whether the objection is about actual or merely possible fundamental disagreement). Alternatively, mind-independence theorists could deny that fundamental moral disagreement undermines mind-independence (Shafer-Landau 2003: ch 9; McGrath 2010). They could point out that there is fundamental disagreement in other domains, such as physics or history, yet we do not take this to undermine objectivity-claims in those domains. But some, such as Richard Rowland (2017), argue that moral disagreement is relevantly different from disagreement in other domains.