  Another possible idea in this area is that the state both massively coerces its members but not outsiders and also claims to speak in the name of the members who are coerced. By claiming to speak in our name, the state involves the will of those in whose name it claims to act. The state not only does but must claim to speak in the name of those it coerces; rulers of a state could not avoid the moral implications that flow from this claim by explaining that they are just authoritarian rulers, bosses who command state power and plan to rule for their own personal benefit. The state compels obedience to its commands and affirms that these commands reflect the legitimate will of the commanded subjects. The argument then is that the combination of these conditions triggers the application of egalitarian principles of justice and these principles apply state by state, not across all states (Dworkin 2000 and Nagel 2005).