 From a logical point of view, this miraculous initial move by Nature is not needed. Standard epistemic models can represent the above scenario, and many more complex ones, by means of the indistinguishability relations introduced above. Technically, this requires to move beyond standard imperfect information trees to so-called epistemic forests (van Benthem, Gerbrandy, Hoshi, &amp; Pacuit 2009), sets of trees linked by epistemic relations. In particular, the above game tree transforms into