 It will be noted that I have re-instated their characterization of the property as “one that we call ‘red’ in English”. The point is that we need this clause to identify the property in question. So, among other things, the enquiry is directed at uncovering the property which our ordinary color terms, such as ‘red’, designate. So, it cannot entirely avoid issues to do with color language and color concepts. We can reinforce the point by referring to the fact that it is common to find color authorities explain central aspect of color, the property of having hue, as follows: “Hue: attribute of color perception denoted by the terms yellow, red, blue, green and so forth” (Kuehni 2005: 187; see also Byrne &amp; Hilbert 1997b: 447, Hardin 1988 [1993: 212]).