 We will consider two main arguments for the mind-independence of the normative. First is a recent argument by David Enoch for the mind-independence of morality (2011: ch. 2). Enoch argues that when we are in certain kinds of interpersonal conflict with someone else, to the extent that that conflict is due to preferences, or attitudes, or desires (etc.), we should not stand our ground but should stand back from our own position and seek some sort of impartial, egalitarian solution to the conflict. For example, if two friends want to do something fun, and one wants to go to the movies while the other wants to play video games, neither should insist on their position over the other’s without budging. (Maybe they should flip a coin.) Enoch calls this constraint “Impartiality”.