  The ontological cluster is a different matter. While the subjective part of knowledge shifts from individual judgment to the internalization of norms within the group and a reasoned consensus that the norms are justified, the reality that the knowledge is about remains a difficult issue: Is moral truth to be treated as theological, non-natural, or natural? There is, however, a subtle difference. The truth in question is about whether the emotionally embodied norms can withstand the scrutiny of the whole group under sustained interactive reasoning in light of relevant non-moral knowledge. Some will complain that such rendering of the object of moral knowledge is too subjective, since it turns moral knowledge into a form of group self-knowledge. A similar worry was noted when we discussed group-based justification (Copp 1995) and pragmatic naturalism (Kitcher 2011). We should concede that such worries need to be answered.