 Many writers, especially in the literature on intrinsic value, use ‘relational’ for the opposite of intrinsic. This seems to be a mistake since many properties seem to be both be relational and intrinsic. For example, most people have the property having longer legs than arms, and indeed seem to have this property in an intrinsic fashion, even though the property consists in a certain relation being satisfied. Maybe the property is not intrinsic if whether or not something is an arm or a leg is extrinsic, so perhaps this isn’t a conclusive example, but it seems troubling. And, in any case, there are other examples that can’t be responded to in this way. For example, the property of having a proper part is surely intrinsic, but it also appears to be a relational property.