 A leading advocate of the fully externally lucky view is Jonathan Kvanvig, who argues that how one comes by one’s accurate grasp matters—what we might call the “etiology” of the accurate grasp—but it does not matter in all the same ways that we find in cases of knowledge (see especially Kvanvig 2003). In particular, it matters that the grasp was acquired in a way that was internally appropriate (especially, in accord with the evidence in one’s possession), but it does not matter that the grasp was externally appropriate—for example, that one came by one’s evidence in a reliable way. Thus Kvanvig argues: