 Take for example, the claim that it is wrong to inflict gratuitous suffering on persons, and sentient beings in general. Imagine someone torturing someone else. A utilitarian will object that, in our grasp of the wrongness of the action, the most salient fact is that the behaviour would inflict gratuitous suffering. This is much more salient than the fact that the person could reasonably reject a principle permitting such conduct. The utilitarian concludes that morality is fundamentally about the avoidance of suffering. A pluralist will conclude instead that morality is irreducibly plural—some moral reasons are grounded on justifiability, but others are grounded directly on suffering or pleasure.