 A last response holds that freedom, equality, fairness, and so on are not abstract principles from which we can derive the existence or non-existence of political obligation; rather, they are regulative ideals to which (a sufficient number of) participants in genuine political communities are committed, despite their many differences on points of detail large and small. There is no vantage point outside the specific, historical, political communities in which we are inevitably situated, from which we can identify the true bases of our moral obligations and so determine whether we have a moral duty to obey the law. Thus, there is no abstract, universal, moral principle of fairness, utility, respect for autonomy, etc., that provides a firm foundation for associative obligations, or at least not one to which we have any access. Rather, there are only the concrete practices of fairness, welfare-promotion, and so on realized in actual polities. “Political obligations are practical commitments that come into play through participants’ mutually holding each other to account in political practices,” (Fossen 2014, p. 231) not truths derived from more basic principles comprehended via an act of intellect.