 In other words, to escape evolutionary debunking themselves, it seems that de Lazari-Radek and Singer will have to allow that the mere existence of a possible evolutionary debunking explanation for a set of moral beliefs does not undermine epistemic justification for them. It matters whether or not that story is actually the correct explanatory story, including its claim that the beliefs in question are exhaustively accounted for simply in terms of the morally-blind, extraneous causes in question, rather than partly through rational grasp of good reasons for believing their contents to be true; and merely being able to tell a debunking story does not establish such a strong claim. Once this is recognized, however, the same principle applies to just the sorts of debunking arguments they have deployed against non-utilitarians, who can thus avoid them in the same way.