 Liggins (2012) maintains, like Fine, that the theory of truth-making is inevitably less general than a theory of grounding. But Liggins also argues that appealing to grounding obviates the need to appeal to truth-makers in the sense that (e.g.) Armstrong maintained. This is because one significant reason for positing truth-makers is that doing so enables us to explain the asymmetric sense in which truth depends upon being (see sec. 3.2 below). But, Liggins maintains, this can already be done in terms of grounding, by saying that the fact that p grounds the fact that a certain proposition is true, namely the proposition that p. According to Liggins, this isn’t a case of truth-making because the relation of grounding invoked holds solely between two facts, albeit one of them a fact about a proposition, that it is true, rather than, as Liggins reads the requirements of truth-maker theory, a relation holding between something and a proposition. 