 Closely related to the problem of passionless love, for classical theism, is the question of the world’s value. The denial of real relations in God, coupled with the concept that the world and its creatures have no value except as it is borrowed from God, implies that that total reality described by God-and-the-world contains no more value than that described by God-without-the-world. This view has two unhappy consequences. First, it implies that there is no value in God’s creating the world—nothing is gained, or lost, in God’s decision to create. Second, it implies that there is no value in God’s interaction with the creatures. Process theists point out that these ideas do not square with analogies drawn from human experience. There is value in giving one’s love to another, as for instance, bringing children into the world and loving them; there is also value in one’s love being received and returned, as when the children mature and cherish relations with their parents. Yet, one cannot love another unless the other exists, or once existed. Thus, if there is a value in love, it requires the existence of the other, not merely the idea of the existence of the other. Process theism rejects the counter-intuitive claim that the world as actually existing has no more value than the world as possibly existing. By parity of reasoning, process theism rejects the view that it is no better for God to create the world than to contemplate the possibility of creating it.