 Similar, and lengthy, phenomenological treatments are given of time and bodies. Where are the absurdities? Findlay argues that for bodies to be bodies, they must proceed unaffected through the media of space and time, but at the same time, space and time, to be what they are, must interact with body. So space and time must be absolute, and must be relative, a contradiction. As for bodies, there are insuperable problems about the relation between bodies and their observable qualities, and between some bodies and their governing minds.