 Though this distinction is not specific to the current context it appears to have played a role in some authors’ intuitions about level-splitting above. For example, when Weatherson and Coates say that the subject ought to believe what the first-order evidence actually supports because a norm does not cease to apply just because one has evidence one hasn’t followed it, they assume that the relevant norm and evidential support relation are objective. Wedgwood’s appeal to externalism about justification also takes its bearings from what the first-order evidence actually supports rather than what to one’s own point of view it seems to support. A challenge for these approaches that achieve some additional authority for first order evidence over the second order by requiring deference to the actual evidential relation at the first order is to explain why this is an obligation at the first order but a subject need only take into account the expected reliability at the second order.