 Still more controversial is the notion of normative necessity (Fine2002, Rosen 2020). One way of understanding this idea appeals to an analogy with nomic modality. We can think of nomically necessary facts as those which follow from facts about the laws of nature. For example, the nomic impossibility of something traveling faster than light is a direct consequence of it being a law of nature that that nothing can travel faster than light. Someone might similarly claim that there are fundamental normative laws or principles. Suppose that (5) stated one of those laws. Then the normative impossibility of a state’s being good just because it is painful could be understood as expressing a consequence of that underlying normative law.