 The refutation of the fourth lemma, neither existence nor nonexistence, yet again depends upon the successful refutation of the previous three. Gorampa argues that to conceive of something as “neither existent nor nonexistent” is to conceive of something that is somewhere between the two extremes of existence and nonexistence. He contends, however, that if one has any concept of anything at all – even if it is some sort of concept of quasi-existence – this is still a wrong view. Once the extremes of existence, nonexistence, and both have been completely refuted, there is no viable position left. To somehow claim that things are neither existent nor nonexistent after having refuted the first three possibilities is illogical.