Fine has argued, however, that qua ontologists we do need to look  elsewhere.[21]  Suppose, with Fine, that there is a primitive distinction between those entities that are “fundamentally real”, and those that are not. Let ‘Real(x)’ be a predicate that marks this distinction. (Unlike the Meinongian existence predicate considered in §1.7.3, this predicate is not derived from a special quantifier.) The ontologist's task, then, is to determine which entities and kinds of entity are fundamentally real. But the quantifier account, being insensitive to this distinction, will be of no use in carrying out this task and should therefore be rejected. The quantifier account provides at best a criterion for ordinary or scientific commitment, but not the specifically ontological commitment of interest to metaphysicians. Indeed, since ordinary and scientific theories do not contain the predicate ‘Real(x)’, they do not by themselves carry any ontological commitment. Only philosophical theories that make claims about what entities or kinds of entity are fundamentally real carry such commitment. Ontology is an autonomous discipline; it cannot (as Quine would have it) be subsumed by science.