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Here is the full result or the re-executed evaluation on deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1-Distill-Llama-8B with the suggested gen args.

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I see some marginal changes in the scores but not much. If this is true the original Llama 3.1 8B wins more test than the Deepseek R1 distilled. I'm not sure what is going on. If anyone can perform the eval, please share your results.
Again I can be totally wrong here.

Full result data (results with 2025-01-26 date)
https://github.com/csabakecskemeti/lm_eval_results/blob/main/deepseek-ai__DeepSeek-R1-Distill-Llama-8B/results_2025-01-26T22-29-00.931915.json

Eval command:
accelerate launch -m lm_eval --model hf --model_args pretrained=deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1-Distill-Llama-8B,parallelize=True,dtype="float16" --tasks hellaswag,leaderboard_gpqa,leaderboard_ifeval,leaderboard_math_hard,leaderboard_mmlu_pro,leaderboard_musr,leaderboard_bbh --batch_size auto:4 --log_samples --output_path eval_results --gen_kwargs temperature=0.6,top_p=0.95,do_sample=True

Eval output:
hf (pretrained=deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1-Distill-Llama-8B,parallelize=True,dtype=float16), gen_kwargs: (temperature=0.6,top_p=0.95,do_sample=True), limit: None, num_fewshot: None, batch_size: auto:4 (1,16,64,64)

Tasks Version Filter n-shot Metric Value Stderr
hellaswag 1 none 0 acc 0.5559 ± 0.0050
none 0 acc_norm 0.7436 ± 0.0044
leaderboard_bbh N/A
- leaderboard_bbh_boolean_expressions 1 none 3 acc_norm 0.8080 ± 0.0250
- leaderboard_bbh_causal_judgement 1 none 3 acc_norm 0.5508 ± 0.0365
- leaderboard_bbh_date_understanding 1 none 3 acc_norm 0.4240 ± 0.0313
- leaderboard_bbh_disambiguation_qa 1 none 3 acc_norm 0.2240 ± 0.0264
- leaderboard_bbh_formal_fallacies 1 none 3 acc_norm 0.5200 ± 0.0317
- leaderboard_bbh_geometric_shapes 1 none 3 acc_norm 0.2360 ± 0.0269
- leaderboard_bbh_hyperbaton 1 none 3 acc_norm 0.4840 ± 0.0317
- leaderboard_bbh_logical_deduction_five_objects 1 none 3 acc_norm 0.3240 ± 0.0297
- leaderboard_bbh_logical_deduction_seven_objects 1 none 3 acc_norm 0.4200 ± 0.0313
- leaderboard_bbh_logical_deduction_three_objects 1 none 3 acc_norm 0.4040 ± 0.0311
- leaderboard_bbh_movie_recommendation 1 none 3 acc_norm 0.6880 ± 0.0294
- leaderboard_bbh_navigate 1 none 3 acc_norm 0.6240 ± 0.0307
- leaderboard_bbh_object_counting 1 none 3 acc_norm 0.4040 ± 0.0311
- leaderboard_bbh_penguins_in_a_table 1 none 3 acc_norm 0.2945 ± 0.0379
- leaderboard_bbh_reasoning_about_colored_objects 1 none 3 acc_norm 0.4120 ± 0.0312
- leaderboard_bbh_ruin_names 1 none 3 acc_norm 0.4600 ± 0.0316
- leaderboard_bbh_salient_translation_error_detection 1 none 3 acc_norm 0.3440 ± 0.0301
- leaderboard_bbh_snarks 1 none 3 acc_norm 0.5112 ± 0.0376
- leaderboard_bbh_sports_understanding 1 none 3 acc_norm 0.4880 ± 0.0317
- leaderboard_bbh_temporal_sequences 1 none 3 acc_norm 0.2080 ± 0.0257
- leaderboard_bbh_tracking_shuffled_objects_five_objects 1 none 3 acc_norm 0.1800 ± 0.0243
- leaderboard_bbh_tracking_shuffled_objects_seven_objects 1 none 3 acc_norm 0.1040 ± 0.0193
- leaderboard_bbh_tracking_shuffled_objects_three_objects 1 none 3 acc_norm 0.3400 ± 0.0300
- leaderboard_bbh_web_of_lies 1 none 3 acc_norm 0.4880 ± 0.0317
leaderboard_gpqa N/A
- leaderboard_gpqa_diamond 1 none 0 acc_norm 0.2879 ± 0.0323
- leaderboard_gpqa_extended 1 none 0 acc_norm 0.3004 ± 0.0196
- leaderboard_gpqa_main 1 none 0 acc_norm 0.3036 ± 0.0217
leaderboard_ifeval 3 none 0 inst_level_loose_acc 0.4556 ± N/A
none 0 inst_level_strict_acc 0.4400 ± N/A
none 0 prompt_level_loose_acc 0.3087 ± 0.0199
none 0 prompt_level_strict_acc 0.2957 ± 0.0196
leaderboard_math_hard N/A
- leaderboard_math_algebra_hard 2 none 4 exact_match 0.4821 ± 0.0286
- leaderboard_math_counting_and_prob_hard 2 none 4 exact_match 0.2033 ± 0.0364
- leaderboard_math_geometry_hard 2 none 4 exact_match 0.2197 ± 0.0362
- leaderboard_math_intermediate_algebra_hard 2 none 4 exact_match 0.0750 ± 0.0158
- leaderboard_math_num_theory_hard 2 none 4 exact_match 0.4026 ± 0.0396
- leaderboard_math_prealgebra_hard 2 none 4 exact_match 0.4508 ± 0.0359
- leaderboard_math_precalculus_hard 2 none 4 exact_match 0.0963 ± 0.0255
leaderboard_mmlu_pro 0.1 none 5 acc 0.2741 ± 0.0041
leaderboard_musr N/A
- leaderboard_musr_murder_mysteries 1 none 0 acc_norm 0.5200 ± 0.0317
- leaderboard_musr_object_placements 1 none 0 acc_norm 0.3086 ± 0.0289
- leaderboard_musr_team_allocation 1 none 0 acc_norm 0.3120 ± 0.0294
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I've rerun hellaswag with the suggested config, the results haven't improved:

Tasks Version Filter n-shot Metric Value Stderr
hellaswag 1 none 0 acc 0.5559 ± 0.0050
none 0 acc_norm 0.7436 ± 0.0044

command:
accelerate launch -m lm_eval --model hf --model_args pretrained=deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1-Distill-Llama-8B,parallelize=True,dtype="float16" --tasks hellaswag --batch_size auto:4 --log_samples --output_path eval_results --gen_kwargs temperature=0.6,top_p=0.95,generate_until=64,do_sample=True

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I've missed this suggested configuration from the model card:
"For benchmarks requiring sampling, we use a temperature of $0.6$, a top-p value of $0.95$, and generate 64 responses per query to estimate pass@1."

Thanks for @shb777 and @bin110 to pointing this out!

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I've run the open llm leaderboard evaluations + hellaswag on deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1-Distill-Llama-8B and compared to meta-llama/Llama-3.1-8B-Instruct and at first glance R1 do not beat Llama overall.

If anyone wants to double check the results are posted here:
https://github.com/csabakecskemeti/lm_eval_results

Am I made some mistake, or (at least this distilled version) not as good/better than the competition?

I'll run the same on the Qwen 7B distilled version too.
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Can it run DeepSeek V3 671B is the new 'can it run Doom'.

How minimalistic can I go with on device AI with behemoth models - here I'm running DeepSeek V3 MoE on a single A6000 GPU.

Not great, not terrible, for this minimalistic setup. I love the Mixture of Experts architectures. Typically I'm running my core LLM distributed over the 4 GPUs.

Make sure you own your AI. AI in the cloud is not aligned with you; it's aligned with the company that owns it.
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Deepseek-V3-Base Q2_K

AMD Ryzen™ Threadripper™ 3970X × 64
ASUS ROG ZENITH II EXTREME ALPHA
256.0 GiB
NVIDIA GeForce RTX™ 3090 / NVIDIA GeForce RTX™ 3090 / NVIDIA GeForce RTX™ 4080

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seems it's happening:
ChatGPT
I've provided context that has no information about if Berlin is the capital of Germany, though my 'fake' source has been cited.
Screenshot 2025-01-08 at 3.26.35 PM.png

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Groundbreaking Research Alert: Correctness ≠ Faithfulness in RAG Systems

Fascinating new research from L3S Research Center, University of Amsterdam, and TU Delft reveals a critical insight into Retrieval Augmented Generation (RAG) systems. The study exposes that up to 57% of citations in RAG systems could be unfaithful, despite being technically correct.

>> Key Technical Insights:

Post-rationalization Problem
The researchers discovered that RAG systems often engage in "post-rationalization" - where models first generate answers from their parametric memory and then search for supporting evidence afterward. This means that while citations may be correct, they don't reflect the actual reasoning process.

Experimental Design
The team used Command-R+ (104B parameters) with 4-bit quantization on NVIDIA A100 GPU, testing on the NaturalQuestions dataset. They employed BM25 for initial retrieval and ColBERT v2 for reranking.

Attribution Framework
The research introduces a comprehensive framework for evaluating RAG systems across multiple dimensions:
- Citation Correctness: Whether cited documents support the claims
- Citation Faithfulness: Whether citations reflect actual model reasoning
- Citation Appropriateness: Relevance and meaningfulness of citations
- Citation Comprehensiveness: Coverage of key points

Under the Hood
The system processes involve:
1. Document relevance prediction
2. Citation prediction
3. Answer generation without citations
4. Answer generation with citations

This work fundamentally challenges our understanding of RAG systems and highlights the need for more robust evaluation metrics in AI systems that claim to provide verifiable information.
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I had the same hesitation but had to settle with something, so I went with '.' :D
Basically the '.' as separata has resemble me the domain name structure which has made sense for me

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Groundbreaking Research Alert: Rethinking RAG with Cache-Augmented Generation (CAG)

Researchers from National Chengchi University and Academia Sinica have introduced a paradigm-shifting approach that challenges the conventional wisdom of Retrieval-Augmented Generation (RAG).

Instead of the traditional retrieve-then-generate pipeline, their innovative Cache-Augmented Generation (CAG) framework preloads documents and precomputes key-value caches, eliminating the need for real-time retrieval during inference.

Technical Deep Dive:
- CAG preloads external knowledge and precomputes KV caches, storing them for future use
- The system processes documents only once, regardless of subsequent query volume
- During inference, it loads the precomputed cache alongside user queries, enabling rapid response generation
- The cache reset mechanism allows efficient handling of multiple inference sessions through strategic token truncation

Performance Highlights:
- Achieved superior BERTScore metrics compared to both sparse and dense retrieval RAG systems
- Demonstrated up to 40x faster generation times compared to traditional approaches
- Particularly effective with both SQuAD and HotPotQA datasets, showing robust performance across different knowledge tasks

Why This Matters:
The approach significantly reduces system complexity, eliminates retrieval latency, and mitigates common RAG pipeline errors. As LLMs continue evolving with expanded context windows, this methodology becomes increasingly relevant for knowledge-intensive applications.
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Hey HF community! 👋

Excited to share Monkt - a tool I built to solve the eternal headache of processing documents for ML/AI pipelines.

What it does: Converts PDFs, Word, PowerPoint, Excel, Web pages or raw HTML into clean Markdown or structured JSON.

Great for:
✔ LLM training dataset preparation;
✔ Knowledge base construction;
✔ Research paper processing;
✔ Technical documentation management.

It has API access for integration into ML pipelines.

Check it out at https://monkt.com/ if you want to save time on document processing infrastructure.

Looking forward to your feedback!
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